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    Didnt you once post a pic of you in a thong?

    yeah im sure you're not joking

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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Didnt you once post a pic of you in a thong?

    yeah im sure you're not joking

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    It was an mspaint job. Myself and bard from the IRC days conspired on that. We used a generic picture of some dude's ass in a white thong and copied the FTR logo over from one of the CB thong pics if I'm not mistaken. I'm generally a top.
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    Thongs are ludicrously uncomfortable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Thongs are ludicrously uncomfortable.
    It depends on the material and how it's made.

    And besides, I don't really give a shit because I'm not the one wearing it. If a girl wants to talk about how uncomfortable some shit is, she can be really comfortable hitting the fucking road.
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    "India was at a crossroads in the mid-seventeenth century; it had the potential of moving forward with Dara Shikoh, or of turning back to medievalism with Aurangzeb." Eraly, Abraham (2004). The Mughal Throne : The Saga of India's Great Emperors. London: Phoenix. p. 336. ISBN 0-7538-1758-6.
    "Poor Dara Shikoh!....thy generous heart and enlightened mind had reigned over this vast empire, and made it, perchance, the garden it deserves to be made". William Sleeman (1844), E-text of Rambles and Recollections of an Indian Official p.272
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    Speaking of Bailey Jay, it's a strange world when a dude is prettier than most chicks.
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    120V/60Hz tilts me

    Here is the spec sheet of a random receiver

    Power Supply
    [U.S.A. and Canada models] ...................................... AC 120 V, 60 Hz
    [Brazil and General models] .................................................. AC 110 to 120/220 to 240 V, 50/60 Hz
    [Korea model] .................................................. ........... AC 220 V, 60 Hz
    [Australia model] .................................................. ...... AC 240 V, 50 Hz
    [U.K. and Europe models] .......................................... AC 230 V, 50 Hz
    [Asia model] ................................................ AC 220 to 240 V, 50/60 Hz

    •Power Consumption
    [U.S.A. and Canada models] .................................................. ....400 W
    [Brazil, Asia and General models] ................................................27 0 W
    [Other models].................................................. ..........................300 W

    The 120V/60Hz model is by far and away the most inefficient. But still, the US and Canada insist on using this inefficient technology. We live near the US, but use Euro standards, and it's basically impossible for me to order appliances from the US and getting something that works. I have to order them at triple the prices from the mainland.

    Obviously, I can't be assured of betting the Brazilian/General model of this item if I order from where I usually order, that being Ebay or Amazon. And of course, yamaha.com won't sell to me because I'm not US based.

    Edit: 120v/60Hz appliances die quicker when you use them at 50Hz

    That sucks immensely
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    James Damore just filed a class action lawsuit against Google, saying it discriminates against white male conservatives

    https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/08/ja...conservatives/

    About fucking time.

    James Damore, a former Google engineer who was fired in August after posting a memo to an internal Google message board arguing that women may not be equally represented in tech because they are biologically less capable of engineering, has filed a class action lawsuit against the company in Santa Clara Superior Court in Northern California.
    Fake news right in the first sentence. That's not what he claimed at all. He claimed that the tech industry needed to change how they did things because their customs and culture were based primarily around men, which naturally excluded women. He proposed a series of changes to do exactly what libs have been wanting for a long time: companies to change how they do business to make traditionally male-dominated industries more welcoming to women.
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    I just learned about the most gangsta shit ever: stereotype lift. It's when you get a legitimate and measurable boost in performance due to a negative stereotype about someone else (generally framed as a competitor of some type).

    So if I'm a Mexican, and I'm taking the SAT (or ACT depending on where you live) around a bunch of black kids who were also taking the test, I could think to myself some stereotype something like, "Black people are bad at using pencils," and I would get a measurable boost from it.

    There are two related concepts. Stereotype threat is when one of the black kids does worse on the test because he's reminded of stereotypes about black people. Stereotype boost is when the one white kid over in the corner does better on the test because he's reminded of stereotypes about white people.

    I'm pretty sure I can hijack these mechanisms for my performance coaching consulting firm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    So if I'm a Mexican, and I'm taking the SAT (or ACT depending on where you live) around a bunch of black kids who were also taking the test, I could think to myself some stereotype something like, "Black people are bad at using pencils," and I would get a measurable boost from it.
    So if you're a white cop, in a black neighborhood, you could think about some black stereotypes and be a better cop??

    wut???
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    So if you're a white cop, in a black neighborhood, you could think about some black stereotypes and be a better cop??

    wut???
    You aren't holding the form of the analogy. This is closer:

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    So if you're a white cop, in a black group of cops, you could think about some negative black stereotypes and see a performance boost?
    To this, the answer seems to be yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    To this, the answer seems to be yes.
    Is it? Is it a REAL yes?

    Like if I'm a republican having a debate with democrats, and I think about negative stereotypes about democrats, that improves my debate performance???

    Sounds like all you're doing is creating your own echo chamber
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    It sounds like a form of positive affirmation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    It sounds like a form of positive affirmation.
    For what it's worth, stereotype threat is the most studied by far. It's the type of thing the left tries to use to prove once and for all that men and women are equal on math tests and similar.

    But to your point about stereotype boost, I suspect the mechanisms are similar.

    What's really interesting to me is that there's plenty of proof that stereotype boost and stereotype lift have completely different causes.
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    I should have just said affirmation since I meant positive in its correlation sense not its "good" sense. A stereotype threat is an affirmation. The subconscious says "These blacks did bad, I'm black, I'll do bad"
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    I mean affirmation in the sense that having thoughts affirms the "reality" of those thoughts, roughly speaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I mean affirmation in the sense that having thoughts affirms the "reality" of those thoughts, roughly speaking.
    Yeah I know what you meant.
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    Something that may be interesting on that is the idea that an affirmation like "I am" may be more powerful than "I will". For example, if you're struggling with the desire to cheat on your wife and you're a Christian, you can tell yourself "I am a good Christian" and it will probably be more effective than if you say "I won't cheat on my wife." The stereotype thing may be similar. The Christian example is a stereotype too. In the examples you gave, thinking that blacks do poorly on tests and that you are black may be a stronger affirmation than normal since it affirms "what you are" instead of what you want or what you plan to do or whatever. This could be a longer way of saying that when you "are" something, you are less likely to deviate from that than if you "want to do something". Wanting to do something takes effort. Being something is already what is, it almost takes effort to not be that something, so to speak.
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    I think you kinda goofed up the positive framing having more efficacy thing. Maybe this isn't what you were going for, but it does appear that "I am a faithful husband" not only works better than "I am not a cheater", but the "not" in "I am not a cheater" pretty much gets lost, and so affirming in the negative ends up backfiring, in this case making your more likely to act on your impulse to cheat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Something that may be interesting on that is the idea that an affirmation like "I am" may be more powerful than "I will". For example, if you're struggling with the desire to cheat on your wife and you're a Christian, you can tell yourself "I am a good Christian" and it will probably be more effective than if you say "I won't cheat on my wife." The stereotype thing may be similar. The Christian example is a stereotype too. In the examples you gave, thinking that blacks do poorly on tests and that you are black may be a stronger affirmation than normal since it affirms "what you are" instead of what you want or what you plan to do or whatever. This could be a longer way of saying that when you "are" something, you are less likely to deviate from that than if you "want to do something". Wanting to do something takes effort. Being something is already what is, it almost takes effort to not be that something, so to speak.
    Yeah I agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    I think you kinda goofed up the positive framing having more efficacy thing. Maybe this isn't what you were going for, but it does appear that "I am a faithful husband" not only works better than "I am not a cheater", but the "not" in "I am not a cheater" pretty much gets lost, and so affirming in the negative ends up backfiring, in this case making your more likely to act on your impulse to cheat.
    Yeah I agree.

    I wonder if consciously and intentionally becoming a white supremacist (or black or purple or w/e) and mentally incorporating that into everything you do would boost your performance in everything you do.

    It's kind of like this Jewish kid I knew in school who would somehow turn every conversation into something about being a Jew, or when anyone does Crossfit ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    I think you kinda goofed up the positive framing having more efficacy thing. Maybe this isn't what you were going for, but it does appear that "I am a faithful husband" not only works better than "I am not a cheater", but the "not" in "I am not a cheater" pretty much gets lost, and so affirming in the negative ends up backfiring, in this case making your more likely to act on your impulse to cheat.
    Heh. I saw that as I typed it up but wasn't sure if anybody would notice, and I didn't change it because I don't think it affects the point even though like you pointed out it makes it less clear. I'm glad you saw that.

    I'll change the phrasing now. To the distinction between "I am a faithful husband" and "I will be a faithful husband." The former is probably more effective in part for the reasons outlined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    Yeah I agree.



    Yeah I agree.

    I wonder if consciously and intentionally becoming a white supremacist (or black or purple or w/e) and mentally incorporating that into everything you do would boost your performance in everything you do.

    It's kind of like this Jewish kid I knew in school who would somehow turn every conversation into something about being a Jew, or when anyone does Crossfit ever.
    I bet it would and I was thinking of examples like this too. It wouldn't have to be with just ethnicity. It could be like if the Itnow family name commands respect, Spoon can think "I'm an Itnow, dammit! I command respect!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I bet it would and I was thinking of examples like this too. It wouldn't have to be with just ethnicity. It could be like if the Itnow family name commands respect, Spoon can think "I'm an Itnow, dammit! I command respect!"
    Yeah I agree.
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    Just played some 4-player chess. The fuck is with people? You're up against 3 other people, so it's pretty fucking obvious that trading pieces is bad. Like, yeah let's trade queens and both be a queen down against the other two.

    Morons. These people should be playing poker, not chess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Just played some 4-player chess. The fuck is with people? You're up against 3 other people, so it's pretty fucking obvious that trading pieces is bad. Like, yeah let's trade queens and both be a queen down against the other two.

    Morons. These people should be playing poker, not chess.
    That's like the short-stacking of chess. It's technically the same thing, but it's gay and sucks.

    Bughouse ftw though
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    Modern cars are tilting me. Technologically everything has gotten better, but cars have gotten progressively worse. Probably the worst car I've ever driven this year was my bosses 200+bhp $50k shitbox. I don't know if stability control was terrible, or malfunctioning, or off but that thing understeered more than anything I've ever driven. I've driven vans that handled way better. The way you deal with understeer in fwd is you just left foot break a bit in the corners and you can balance it out. But you can't do that if you're fighting always-on traction and stability control because the computer will shit itself and just understeer more. And the turbo on that thing... I don't know how you can go out and spend that kind of money on a car with 1s turbo lag and be fine with that.

    I thought the VW UP looked like they have gone back to what made the original golf great, but no. always-on TC and it just beeps at you constantly if you're not driving like a fairy. I don't even know if that's mandated or if society is so cucked beyond recognition that people actually want that. Oh thank you for reminding me to put my seatbelt on! Oh, thank you sir, I didn't realize I was doing 46 in a 45. Thank god for the beeps because think of the children!
    And why are we ok with those pos proprietary interfaces for board computers. The first manufacturer that puts a usb connection on the board computer can have my money.
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    People who pay $50k for a hunk of shit, it's purely status. It doesn't matter that it handles like a tank, it says "I'm wealthy and successful". I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume he's a cunt of a boss.
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    and it just beeps at you constantly if you're not driving like a fairy. I don't even know if that's mandated or if society is so cucked beyond recognition that people actually want that. Oh thank you for reminding me to put my seatbelt on!
    This shit drives me insane. I was once a passneger from Exeter to home (3 hour drive) and for the ENTIRE FUCKING JOURNEY the driver had her sat nav alerting her to the fact she was doing over 70 on the motorway.

    "Isn't that annoying you?" (translation - "This is annoying the shit out of me")
    "No, I don't even notice it." (translation - "I don't give a fuck")

    Ok, giving me the beeps because I haven't got my seatbelt on, I can just about tolerate that, but I draw the line there.
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    Turns out I don't know shit about car prices. Was probably closer to 20k. For 50k you can get an M-series. Not going to sit here and say those are shit cars. I think the hatchback and super compact segment is a sad place. In what world does anyone prefer the new mini to the old mini? Or the new golf gti to the old golf gti?
    What happened to thin tires? They're cheaper, so you don't feel as bad for trashing them. And you have less traction which is way more fun. I'm not sure why I'm upset about this because I'm not even looking for a car right now, but if I was I'd be furious!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    And you have less traction which is way more fun.
    This is a common misconception.

    Friction is a function of the weight of the vehicle and the surface-surface contact between tires and road (or dirt, or whatever). The size of the tires plays no part in the max force it can offer.

    Wide tires spread the wear across a larger area and last longer, in general. They don't get more friction... at least, not because of their size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    This is a common misconception.

    Friction is a function of the weight of the vehicle and the surface-surface contact between tires and road (or dirt, or whatever). The size of the tires plays no part in the max force it can offer.

    Wide tires spread the wear across a larger area and last longer, in general. They don't get more friction... at least, not because of their size.
    This can't possibly be right.

    You've contradicted yourself. If friction is a function of surface-to-surface contact.....then SURELY wider tires, with more surface area, will generate more friction.

    How do you explain the varieties of bike tires available? They have skinny smooth wheels that are great for dry streets. And they have big fat wide tires that can power through snow on cross country ski trails.

    given the expense and environmental headaches involved with producing tires, and subsequently disposing of them.......if the size of the tire didn't matter, we'd all be driving around on rubber frisbees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    This can't possibly be right.

    You've contradicted yourself. If friction is a function of surface-to-surface contact.....then SURELY wider tires, with more surface area, will generate more friction.
    It does seem a bit odd- like saying there's just as much friction when you rub your finger over sandpaper as when you rub your entire hand over it.

    Also, http://www.rimsandtiresmag.com/7-thi...s-narrow-tire/

    Edit: Ok I understand now. The weight per unit area determines friction, so spreading the weight of your car out over a wider area doesn't actually change much if anything in terms of friction alone.

    Also you can't ride a car on a bicycle tire because it will explode (who'da thought it?).
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    I did not know that!
    But this explains why they still tend to have lower friction than wider tires:
    http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae200.cfm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    It does seem a bit odd- like saying there's just as much friction when you rub your finger over sandpaper as when you rub your entire hand over it.

    Also, http://www.rimsandtiresmag.com/7-thi...s-narrow-tire/

    Edit: Ok I understand now. The weight per unit area determines friction, so spreading the weight of your car out over a wider area doesn't actually change much if anything in terms of friction alone.
    The fuel consumption bit is a little hard to read. They're talking about friction of using the suspension to move the tire, not the friction of the tire on the road. I.e. they're saying that turning a bigger, heavier tire to the left or right has more friction on the road, but that's not really true. They correctly said it has the same friction earlier, it's just that, looking at the cross section of the tire's contact with the road, a wider tire expresses that equal friction further from the axis of rotation, providing a greater torque.

    They also seem to be saying that the bigger wheel's higher moment of inertia is some from of friction, but it's not perfectly clear.

    I can forgive them confusing torque and moment of inertia in this article, as it's meant to be in layman's terms, and the effect of these is similar enough to friction for a layman.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Also you can't ride a car on a bicycle tire because it will explode (who'da thought it?).
    Sure you can. Just keep it under 5 mph, and you'll be fine... assuming the bike wheels could hold up the car in the first place.

    Many cars have a tiny, thin spare tire. The whole "explode" bit is a possibility under extreme conditions, but not a given. The earliest cars were glorified bikes, after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    I did not know that!
    But this explains why they still tend to have lower friction than wider tires:
    http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae200.cfm
    huh! Cool.
    I did not know that about the harder vs. softer rubber needs to be used to support the weight of the car.

    I'm glad I included the, "at least, not because of their size." caveat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    I wonder if consciously and intentionally becoming a white supremacist (or black or purple or w/e) and mentally incorporating that into everything you do would boost your performance in everything you do.

    It's kind of like this Jewish kid I knew in school who would somehow turn every conversation into something about being a Jew, or when anyone does Crossfit ever.
    I've done some more research on this and discovered that I was wrong about something in the bold. All research indicates that it would actually lead to a drop in performance if being white was blatantly made the focus in this way. Instead of inducing stereotype boost, it induces anxiety about living up to the standard of the group (in this case being white). There are some cool studies that show this.

    HOWEVER, if you blatantly focused on some other group not being good at the task at hand, which is something a [color] supremacist could definitely do, then that induces stereotype lift (which has also been proven to use a different psychological mechanism than stereotype boost), which also increases performance.

    tldr: Blatant focus on the target characteristic lowers performance. Subliminal introduction of the target characteristic increases performance (ie: stereotype boost). Blatant focus on the negative non-target characteristic increases performance (ie: stereotype lift).
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    Retard autistic cuck alert up above.
    I meant Savy.
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    Why is no one in the ftr discord channel? It's golden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    Why is no one in the ftr discord channel? It's golden.
    I'm there.
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    I meant Savy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    He's not a cuck.
    He's a cuck for me bb
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    I'm currently playing a game of chess on an infinite plane.

    Turns out that infinite chess proves certain things, sich as infinity/2=infinity and infinity-8=infinity.

    For example, the bishop only can only occupy half the squares that the rook can, but still has an infinite selection.
    Also, there's a piece called the chancellor, which is bascially a rook+knight hybrid. So, on an open board, the rook has an infinite selection to choose from, while the chancellor has those same squares plus 8 more.

    Also, it's a fucking crazy game. My queen is currently "developed" on rank 24, way behind my own king.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I'm currently playing a game of chess on an infinite plane.

    Turns out that infinite chess proves certain things, sich as infinity/2=infinity and infinity-8=infinity.

    For example, the bishop only can only occupy half the squares that the rook can, but still has an infinite selection.
    Also, there's a piece called the chancellor, which is bascially a rook+knight hybrid. So, on an open board, the rook has an infinite selection to choose from, while the chancellor has those same squares plus 8 more.

    Also, it's a fucking crazy game. My queen is currently "developed" on rank 24, way behind my own king.
    Pics?

    I'm just wondering how you actually 'see' the board. Or do you just know your queen is at (x,y) and your other pieces are at (whatever,whatever).
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    I'll link to the game but please don't discuss the game as it progresses, or any tactics that might help me.

    https://www.chess.com/forum/view/che...captaintugwash

    The board can be expanded to show pieces that are nearby. There's also the possibility of remote parts of the board being represented by a seperate diagram, or even merely a note at the side of the board. However, the idea of a "centre" still exists because of the pawns, they promote on the 8th rank (white) and 1st rank (black), just as normal, which means the action will nearly always centre around this part of the board. So it's kind of self regulating, it's not optimal to have your pieces in remote corners of the universe.

    Extra pieces -
    Chancellor - rook/knight hybrid
    Hawk - jump two or three squares in a straight line
    Guard - basically a king, but without the importance - it can be captured.
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    Very much so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Turns out that infinite chess proves certain things, sich as infinity/2=infinity and infinity-8=infinity.

    For example, the bishop only can only occupy half the squares that the rook can, but still has an infinite selection.
    Also, there's a piece called the chancellor, which is bascially a rook+knight hybrid. So, on an open board, the rook has an infinite selection to choose from, while the chancellor has those same squares plus 8 more.

    Also, it's a fucking crazy game. My queen is currently "developed" on rank 24, way behind my own king.
    This is actually a crazy good way to demonstrate how some infinities are bigger than others without drawing out cantor's proof and bringing the entire party to a grinding halt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    This is actually a crazy good way to demonstrate how some infinities are bigger than others without drawing out cantor's proof and bringing the entire party to a grinding halt.
    Yep. Based on the relationship between bishop and chancellor, 2*infinity+8=infinity. It's easy to visualise, and easy to conclude there are an infinite number of different infinities, because you can make an infinite number of different pieces, all with different moves that all have an infinite selection of moves available to them. To really fuck things up, there's a piece that jumps a prime number of squares, although thankfully we're not using it.
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    infinity+8 and infinity would be absolutely equal in the same number plane, but if you look at it as if every square on the board has it's own numerical value, then the subset of two diagonals and 2 diagonals + 8 would have different sizes.
    The prime number piece seems overkill. But is there actually a point where prime numbers have smaller gaps than they do between let's say 1 and 100? If so, it could get pretty silly. But a piece that moves prime numbers between 1 and 23 could be fun.
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    The prime number piece was designed to stop computers from ever being able to solve it, since the set of prime numbers is itself unknownable. The "infinity" aspect of it can be mostly solved by placing ludicrously large limits on the board size, there's just no strategic need for pieces to be on (googolplex,googolplex), other than to waste a tempo in absurd fashion. So computers will be able to anlyse it for the vast majority of, it not all, practical purposes.
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    ha! I love that. I know it's a petty, but one of the reasons I geek out over Starcraft is that computers still shit the bed when it comes to RTS with limited information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I'll link to the game but please don't discuss the game as it progresses, or any tactics that might help me.
    You don't have to worry about that.

    Interesting that it's in an infinite space now. Basically takes the game from a closed system to an open, unsolvable one (not that anything has come close to solving the closed system yet, but it is theoretically solvable).

    Seems better than 4-way chess, where there's almost zero incentive to ever exchange a piece.
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    If someone makes this into a playable mod, this sound needs to play every time a hawk is moved:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33DWqRyAAUw
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    Chess needs artillery (or archers) imo. Something that can kill at range without moving.

    Also, 'falcon' would be a cooler name for a piece than 'hawk'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Chess needs artillery (or archers) imo. Something that can kill at range without moving.
    Something like this could work for infinite chess, actually.
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    The other night I brought up the concept of end game with a group of friends. I was surprised that when I said the name of it one of the girls was proper into the idea.

    Turns out it's the name of a Taylor Swift song that came out like the day before I mentioned it

    edit - It was relevant, I don't just bring up game theory in conversation (I wish I could more often). It's particularly sad as it was with regards to relationships.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    The other night I brought up the concept of end game with a group of friends. I was surprised that when I said the name of it one of the girls was proper into the idea.

    Turns out it's the name of a Taylor Swift song that came out like the day before I mentioned it

    edit - It was relevant, I don't just bring up game theory in conversation (I wish I could more often). It's particularly sad as it was with regards to relationships.
    Wanna have that conversation here? I'm not sure how valuable my input would be, but end game with regards to relationships sounds really interesting.
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    Wanna have that conversation here? I'm not sure how valuable my input would be, but end game with regards to relationships sounds really interesting.
    You know it's doomed, so you try to end it in the smoothest way possible where no-one ends up hating anyone. That's my basic end game strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    Wanna have that conversation here? I'm not sure how valuable my input would be, but end game with regards to relationships sounds really interesting.
    We were talking about relationships and jobs. And how people felt that they were making progress with their job goals but not necessarily their relationships, a few of whom had been in relationships for >3 years. My point was that most people have somewhat of an end game with their jobs, especially when they are doing something towards that goal (it was a group of trainee teachers). So lots of people have different end games in mind, some want to run schools others want to get into SEN related stuff some want to get into the politics of education, it also helps that its' a bias sample in that by definition we are actively doing something career wise.

    The more interesting part is what is the end game of a relationship? People almost never have a meaningful answer to this type of question, you get answers like you want to grow old together but what does that even really mean? There is also some huge stigma attached to relationships where you can't just take better opportunities, that's seen as being a bad person. If you get a better job offer and take it you're crushing life but no ones relationship goal is to move to a better person. In fact usually people will put huge amounts of wasted effort into saving a relationship that isn't going to work just because of sunk costs.

    edit - I think a particularly important point is the success of a relationship is kind of defined on how long it's lasted which is complete crap. This is only true if you're getting a huge amount out of the relationship, particularly if it's based on no effort. No one congratulates the guy who has been packing shopping bags for 40 years when he's got a PHD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    You know it's doomed, so you try to end it in the smoothest way possible where no-one ends up hating anyone. That's my basic end game strategy.
    Why is this though? Because you realise relationships don't last (which they overwhelmingly don't) so look for easy exits? Why not look for better opportunities?

    edit - Also I suppose I was more thinking of end game as in what's the complete goal of your relationships in life however the same idea applies to individual relationships that you have. I don't think looking for the easiest end is particularly solid advice in general but ending it rather than trying to endlessly save it probably is good advice in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    Why is this though? Because you realise relationships don't last (which they overwhelmingly don't) so look for easy exits? Why not look for better opportunities?
    Smooth doesn't always mean easy. Easy is just never calling the person again, and makes you a dick. Smooth means not allowing differences to escalate into something worse.

    Another rule is the longer you're in it, the longer the endgame has to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Smooth doesn't always mean easy. Easy is just never calling the person again, and makes you a dick. Smooth means not allowing differences to escalate into something worse.

    Another rule is the longer you're in it, the longer the endgame has to be.
    It's interesting that a lot of people as they come to the end of a relationship try bigger and grander gestures that don't make ending a relationship smoother. I know plenty of people who have had kids because they think that'll save a relationship. People who have split up then come back together and got married really soon only to find out that actually they split up for a reason. Moving in together and getting a mortgage etc.

    They are all really common things yet completely the opposite when it comes to smooth or easy exits.
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    But if you're talking about endgame as in goals (I was thinking chess, like the end of the game), then it seems to me much easier to quantify progress in a career than in a relationship.

    In a career, it's easier to set realistic goals where it's clear what you need to do to achieve that goal and measure your progress towards it.

    In a relationship, fulfilling your goals depends not just on you, but on another person whose goals may very well be different than yours. Often people have unreasonable expectations about the other person's willingness or ability to change, and trying to make someone else change who doesn't want to is like banging your head against a wall. So they think 'this relationship doesn't get any better', the other person thinks the same, and they get frustrated with each other (or if it's good, they just stay happy but always dream it could be better if the other person just stopped farting in bed or w/e).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    It's interesting that a lot of people as they come to the end of a relationship try bigger and grander gestures that don't make ending a relationship smoother. I know plenty of people who have had kids because they think that'll save a relationship. People who have split up then come back together and got married really soon only to find out that actually they split up for a reason. Moving in together and getting a mortgage etc.

    They are all really common things yet completely the opposite when it comes to smooth or easy exits.
    Ya, i don't understand why people have this magical way of thinking about relationships sometimes. Probably watching too many corny movies or some shit I don't know. Also, sometimes it's fear of being alone that keeps people together more than anything positive about the relationship itself.

    More generally, I think people aren't really pragmatic about what is and isn't possible in a relationship. Like, "if only i try harder, he/she will love me and we'll live happily ever after. " I know in the past I've been guilty of this type of thinking. It doesn't really work that way though.

    I also think there's a sense in which people judge the relationship in terms of past relationships - i've dated women who tell me we have a great relationship and they're really happy and I think 'holy fuck, really?' because this might be about a 4/10 for me. And I can also see why they've had shitty relationship in the past from how they act. It's hard to convince them there's better ways of doing things when they can't see their own faults. It's like the thing where people who are incompetent at a job don't know they're incompetent, or they'd stop being incompetent.
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    I could call up any pizza/sub shop right now and say "Large Turkey on white, American cheese, lettuce, tomato, pickle"

    I could walk into any pizza/sub shop right now and say ""Large Turkey on white, American cheese, lettuce, tomato, pickle"

    In either instance, the sub shop employee's response would be some variation of "coming right up"

    Unless that shop is Subway. What the fuck is wrong with that franchise??

    Has anyone ever tried to call in an order to Subway? You'd think you were asking the employee to do advanced calculus!!

    Try it, and let me know if you get a response other than "ummm, sorry sir, we need you to come in here and point at what you want"

    And these ass-holes want $15/hour!!!
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    Make your own fucking sandwich.
    Sorry bud, I work for a living and my time is worth more than the cost of a sandwich. Which is why I outsource it to professional sandwich makers.

    If youre life is 99% smoking doobies and trolling the internet....I can see how you might not see the value in it.
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    I work now, and I make my own fucking sandwich in the morning so I don't have to eat shit from some random place in town.
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    "professional sandwich makers"

    You can't have typed that with a straight face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I work now, and I make my own fucking sandwich in the morning so I don't have to eat shit from some random place in town.
    keep climbing the ladder kiddo. Someday you might make enough to outsource your sandwich making.

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