Note that in my response on AI I said assuming it can be controlled by humans.
If we don't assume that, then a Skynet thing might be possible.
01-02-2018 07:08 PM
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Note that in my response on AI I said assuming it can be controlled by humans. |
01-02-2018 07:22 PM
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01-02-2018 07:26 PM
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For the singularity you can let your imagination run wild. Like being super smart, yet not limited by bounds like a human traditionally is. | |
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01-02-2018 07:53 PM
#24979
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This is exactly what humans have been doing for however long it's been since we stopped banging rocks together. | |
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01-02-2018 08:01 PM
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Arguably they're already smarter than us, I mean they can perform in an instant a calculation that might take a human hours. | |
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01-03-2018 12:48 AM
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State of AI | |
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01-03-2018 12:49 AM
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Social Issues because of AI, aka Jetsons Not-Jetsons | |
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01-03-2018 12:51 AM
#24983
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But, do "they" need rights? | |
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01-03-2018 12:53 AM
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01-03-2018 05:32 AM
#24985
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It would be easy if we made a machine that did it. | |
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01-03-2018 12:08 PM
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01-03-2018 04:26 PM
#24987
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Not yet, but that is exactly what the singularity is about. Machines that can reason. Have a sense of humour. Can feel pain. Etc. | |
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01-03-2018 04:27 PM
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Not yet, but that is exactly what the singularity is about. Machines that can reason. Have a sense of humour. Can feel pain. Etc. | |
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01-03-2018 04:51 PM
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Maybe an obtuse question, but how are we going to know when a computer gains awareness or consciousness? Is it going to tell us? Is a little light bulb going to spring up over it's head? | |
01-03-2018 04:52 PM
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im trying to figurw out the mds freeroll password for acr anyone know where to locate it the game starts at 5 thanks everyone |
01-03-2018 05:10 PM
#24991
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Poopadoop: | |
01-03-2018 05:12 PM
#24992
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*If the existence is a net negative crowd is right | |
01-03-2018 08:00 PM
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Something neat to think about: in the 18th century, "religion" and "Christianity" meant the same thing. When the American founders framed the First Amendment, the freedom of religion was meant for the Christian framework, not for any framework that can be billed as religious. This was smart, because philosophically, what we think of today as religion can include Salafism, Nazism, Communism, and other bad stuff. We see the problem of "freedom of religion-as-it-is-thought-of-today" currently. It manifests with things like how some actions that are normally considered morally wrong are thought to be okay when conducted under the guise of some particular religion. |
01-03-2018 08:08 PM
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Communism/Nazism, a religion? | |
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01-03-2018 08:09 PM
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01-04-2018 04:07 PM
#24996
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Fuck AI, I'm talking about CDs. | |
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01-04-2018 05:45 PM
#24997
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01-04-2018 05:47 PM
#24998
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01-04-2018 05:58 PM
#24999
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Weeee, we lost some posts, but it seems like things work again. | |
01-04-2018 07:13 PM
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01-04-2018 07:13 PM
#25001
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01-05-2018 01:48 PM
#25002
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It's a shame some posts got purged with the forum down. Some good stuff was in there. Now there's no record of Spoon arguing that the only reason women are not as physically strong as men is because girls aren't encouraged to play sports. |
01-05-2018 03:13 PM
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I stumbled upon some gender/performance related stuff, it's around the 1h24m mark in part 2 of this: | |
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01-05-2018 03:17 PM
#25004
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On second thought that guy has probably never heard of the red pill and looks pretty cucked. | |
Last edited by oskar; 01-05-2018 at 03:29 PM.
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01-05-2018 03:30 PM
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01-05-2018 03:33 PM
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If you ever want a good discussion of the description of the history/evolution of "the red pill" community and how it ended up as the clusterfuck it is now, I can lay that one out pretty well. I used to have a blog that had around 4.5-5k subscriptions before TRP made its way to Reddit that was relationship game focused and eventually just shut it down because of the ridiculousness that unfolded. | |
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01-05-2018 04:14 PM
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01-05-2018 06:54 PM
#25008
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I have some time to kill, so I'll type this out real quick. | |
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01-05-2018 07:13 PM
#25009
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01-05-2018 07:57 PM
#25010
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01-06-2018 12:59 PM
#25011
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Well that was a lot less juicy than I was hoping for. From the periphery it looks to me as if Tinder had a big part in killing off the PUA culture. It used to be this whole act, and now you just have to swipe to get fucked. I have two morbidly obese friends. They're super into it. I believe I've gone into details before so I don't want to repeat myself, but honestly if you're 400lb and and a decent looking regular sized woman lets you lie on top of her, you have to expect collateral. | |
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01-06-2018 01:02 PM
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So here's why this whole PU game has been weird to me. Have you ever read a book about body language and then wished that you didn't? I read this pos book standing up in a library 20 years ago and I still think about some of the stupid shit I read sometimes. How you mimic people in conversation to gain sympathy. I don't even want to know any of that. That was totally fine when it was subconscious. I don't want to talk to a person and constantly think about how I'm manipulating them and they're manipulating me. It was difficult enough to find a topic before all of that baggage. | |
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01-06-2018 01:16 PM
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haha, I can relate to that oskar-- however, I think it's kinda of like any profound realization. Take the vastness of the universe, which can easily lead to nihilistic thoughts, but once you drudge through those you can get to some cool ideas that actually enhance your life and understanding of the more mundane and less profound. | |
01-06-2018 02:11 PM
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I've had the same concern. |
01-06-2018 03:02 PM
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Yeah, either you peek under the hood and let your preconceptions shape what you're seeing, or you accept what you're seeing as a reason to reshape your preconceptions. I get how you arrive at the former, but I think the latter is preferable. Whether the new knowledge concerns interpersonal influence or germ theory, running some version of the latter process is the basis for all self improvement, societal improvement, etc. | |
01-06-2018 03:06 PM
#25016
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01-06-2018 03:09 PM
#25017
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01-06-2018 03:16 PM
#25018
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It would really help me. Know-it-all-ness is a real problem in my family. My grandfather was literally never wrong in his own mind and my grandmother literally shuts out anything she doesn't want to think. The other side where my genes come from has moderated this such that my siblings and I are aware of the pitfall and are very soured by it and try to correct for it. |
01-06-2018 03:21 PM
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01-06-2018 03:21 PM
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01-06-2018 05:41 PM
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I can't possibly know how this story went down, but from what you tell me this could as well have been just you being obnoxious, by idunno, talking about your theories about the religion of communism for example... and when you got called out on it you stopped being obnoxious. Like Jack said, everyone's reality is different | |
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01-06-2018 06:02 PM
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01-06-2018 06:04 PM
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It's a shame we lost the religion/communism responses. That connection is very solid. It's basically a humanistic religion. We have seen this manifest with North Korea, so we know that connection is real. |
01-06-2018 06:44 PM
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01-06-2018 06:47 PM
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01-06-2018 07:16 PM
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gmml is a Will? I thought his name started with a "C." | |
01-06-2018 07:18 PM
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They discard the concept of a being greater than human and replace it with humanism (and the state) as the great being. |
01-06-2018 07:24 PM
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Boost did you see my response on Jordan Peterson that got lost? |
01-06-2018 08:21 PM
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You stating that your strawman is very solid does not make your strawman any more solid. If you want to talk about north korea, let's talk about north korea. But when you're talking about communism in broad terms you cannot pull up x regime that has adopted communist ideology and rhetoric and then use that to make your point about communism. The idea that you have a fat chink god who loves cheese and plays a perfect game of golf is not a hallmark of communism. | |
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01-06-2018 08:32 PM
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I don't think I did. | |
01-06-2018 08:33 PM
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I agree that people tend to senselessly turn ideas into dogmas and once you subscribe to a line of thinking you are more likely to accept concepts that resonate with that line of thinking, rather than evaluating them rationally. But that's not a trope that's exclusive to x economic theory. That can be said about nearly anything. | |
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01-06-2018 08:39 PM
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This is not a refutation of atheism (not sure if it's meant to be.) You seem to be imagining some sort of progressive move from religiosity to atheism to religious worship of the terrestrial. I would argue that this last move is a backslide, one that is indeed enabled by the sidelining of traditional religious institution, but is not itself caused by atheism or even needs to be predicated on atheism. Instead it's more like you've yanked the dildo out and the lack of stimulation juxtaposed with the previous moment of being filled makes your own non-pretend cock look super appealing. | |
01-06-2018 08:40 PM
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01-06-2018 08:42 PM
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01-06-2018 08:49 PM
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I don't think using the term religion is not helpful. A religion is simply a large enough cult and a cult is a group of people dogmatically subscribing to a supernatural believe. I don't think you can use it in reference to ideologies without causing confusion. I'd just use the word ideology instead. | |
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01-06-2018 08:52 PM
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I don't see the distinction between the posited Peterson's truth and the other truth. Peterson discusses elements of our lives where science has shown little. He essentially uses a humanities type approach to a problem that has lack of experimental capacity. |
01-06-2018 08:54 PM
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Yeah, for sure. I think this is where people can get things a little confused though. Often you'll see people point to actions/trends/etc in "science" that look awfully religious, and then conclude, "ah-ha! Science is just another religion!" Another (I'd argue more plausible) interpretation is that humans are fallible and have a long history of religiosity-- we likely are even genetically predisposed to religious belief (whether it is in deities or not), and so scientists, being human, slip up. But the answer is, "more science!" Science is the check on these slip ups, not the cause. | |
01-06-2018 09:00 PM
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01-06-2018 09:03 PM
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They're not mutually exclusive. Islam in some iterations is a political movement. To some muslims it's just a religion. It can be either one or both. | |
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01-06-2018 09:07 PM
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Yeah, I should also admit, I just don't like his style of speaking. Maybe I should read some of his stuff. | |
01-06-2018 09:18 PM
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When has he stated or implied something is off bounds to science? When I say he uses the humanities approach, I'm talking about things where science is relevant but that constraints are so severe that science yields little useful result. This is like when you write a critical essay on Hamlet. How in the world does science dissect Hamlet? I mean, it can and hopefully one day will, but so far we have no idea how to approach Hamlet with a scientific method. So instead we use all sorts of intuition and correlation type logic to dissect Hamlet. That's the same kind of thing Peterson does when it comes to dissecting "happiness" or "meaning" or "what does the idea of sacrifice mean to humankind?" |
01-06-2018 09:19 PM
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NSFW | |
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01-06-2018 09:25 PM
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doesnt realize that being into traps is en vogue |
01-06-2018 09:27 PM
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Yeah, I should probably just read some Peterson. The only thing is, I will undoubtedly read it in his voice, which will agitate me. | |
01-06-2018 09:28 PM
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01-06-2018 09:44 PM
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01-06-2018 09:46 PM
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"Boost pushes anti-Kermit the Frog narrative" /Salon |
01-06-2018 09:50 PM
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01-06-2018 09:54 PM
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Bailey Jay changed a lot of things. |
01-06-2018 10:01 PM
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