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  1. #24826
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    what is womandstanding?
    When they realise that consensual sex with you wasn't consensual.

    This isn't funny but I tried.
  2. #24827
    oh so that's what ur mam was bitching about
  3. #24828
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    oh so that's what ur mam was bitching about
    No, that was your small penis.
  4. #24829
    ah but at least i have a penis. checkmate, atheist.
  5. #24830
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    ah but at least i have a penis. checkmate, atheist.
    I liked your choice of words, bitching not moaning. That's something no one will ever do as a result of your penis.
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    the government should regulate lame jokes
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    the government should regulate lame jokes
    I got a chuckle out of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    Hey guys, All the bullshit of the world aside. I'm glad to have ever known you and I hope you and yours each have a merry christmas and a happy new year and anything else that might keep you in these long nights and know that we're moving on.
    Merry Xmas Rilla, me too man

    And a merry xmas to the rest of you lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    I got a chuckle out of this.
    The second time he made the same joke in like 2 days? Fml I must be unfunny.

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    Merry Xmas Rilla, me too man

    And a merry xmas to the rest of you lot
    Fuck you, you aren't glad you know me. I've been a net negative on your life.

    Christmas cheer is bullshit.
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    Wow nothing on the animals? I thought that was a great conversation starter.

    @Savey: Silicon Valley is not very consistent. I thought the first season was really good.
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    every season has been very good
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    Well alright then.
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    I've considered the ketogenic diet. Mostly because I enjoy being talked down to by morbidly obese retards.
    /r/keto is a special place.
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    I would say I've enjoyed every season of Silicon Valley, but it did get annoying in places. Especially after they repeat the same story line for the 3rd time. I get that that's the joke, but... I guess I wasn't on the floor laughing.
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    I'm thinking about becoming a flat Earther.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    I'm thinking about becoming a flat Earther.
    And after you'll go into the "LOL JK I'M TROLIN CANT U C?" mode
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    And after you'll go into the "LOL JK I'M TROLIN CANT U C?" mode
    Any moran with half a brain could tell I was trolling about the gay concentration camps, especially since I said so like two posts later.
  18. #24843
    Thank fuck that's over for another year.

    Fucking phoney fucking religious festivals. Spend money on useless crap, celebrate some plonker who built tables and shit before he figured out he had magic powers before dying on a cross, listen to annoying music performed by cunts jumping on bandwagons, get sucked into boring conversations with family members one is glad to see just once a year.

    Dinner was good though.
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    Today is the first day of Kwanzaa, the most racist holiday currently being celebrated in the United States.

    [The creator of Kwanzaa in the late 60s] said that it was meant to be an alternative to Christmas, that Jesus was psychotic, and that Christianity was a white religion that black people should shun.
    Happy Kwanzaa!
  20. #24845
    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    I'm thinking about becoming a flat Earther.
    Hollow Earth shit holds up better imo. Not like an entire hollow planet, but networks and huge caves with cities. It's obviously bollocks but at least you can't instantly prove it wrong by driving towards mountains or measuring shadows, and you're not shitting yourself every time there's an eclipse because you're afraid the sun and moon will collide.

    I have a fried who actually believes flat earth shit. We have mutual friends in New Zealand, and I pointed out to him that he is proposing the sun is closer to us than they are. He thought about it for a second and went "yeah".

    He has MS though so I cut him some slack and said "fair enough" like it's plausible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Hollow Earth shit holds up better imo. Not like an entire hollow planet, but networks and huge caves with cities. It's obviously bollocks but at least you can't instantly prove it wrong by driving towards mountains or measuring shadows, and you're not shitting yourself every time there's an eclipse because you're afraid the sun and moon will collide.

    I have a fried who actually believes flat earth shit. We have mutual friends in New Zealand, and I pointed out to him that he is proposing the sun is closer to us than they are. He thought about it for a second and went "yeah".

    He has MS though so I cut him some slack and said "fair enough" like it's plausible.
    I like how polite we are as a culture in that we generally just accept someone being a dumbass because they're disabled or have some kind of disease or health issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    I like how polite we are as a culture in that we generally just accept someone being a dumbass because they're disabled or have some kind of disease or health issue.
    Yeah I sorta wished I could just call him stupid, but having had a year of some pretty big fuck ups, I'm trying to not be a terrible person. I conveniently changed the subject to our mutual friends in NZ, a more satisfying conversation to have with someone I have shared some good times with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Yeah I sorta wished I could just call him stupid, but having had a year of some pretty big fuck ups, I'm trying to not be a terrible person. I conveniently changed the subject to our mutual friends in NZ, a more satisfying conversation to have with someone I have shared some good times with.
    But you're being a worse person by doing this, just taking the easier option.
  24. #24849
    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    But you're being a worse person by doing this, just taking the easier option.
    I am? I disagree. Dude's got enough shit going on that he doesn't need to be called stupid by his mate because he believes in nonsense. It's no more batshit than zombie carpenter or allah akbar shit load of virgins or elephant with arms or adam and fucking eve or any other completely unscientific shit that people believe.

    I think the only thing where I would actually call him a dumbass is if he said he was getting into scientology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I am? I disagree. Dude's got enough shit going on that he doesn't need to be called stupid by his mate because he believes in nonsense. It's no more batshit than zombie carpenter or allah akbar shit load of virgins or elephant with arms or adam and fucking eve or any other completely unscientific shit that people believe.

    I think the only thing where I would actually call him a dumbass is if he said he was getting into scientology.
    Have you seen the documentary Going Clear about Scientology? It's soooooooo good.
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    Leah Remini's docu was surprisingly good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    Have you seen the documentary Going Clear about Scientology? It's soooooooo good.
    Yeah, I enjoyed it but it didn't really tell me anything I didn't already know.

    Louis Theroux has done something on them too, I was a little disappointed by his effort as he has quite a reputation here, I felt like he was too soft on them, like he was trying to avoid annoying them too much. Considering he's put himself in dangerous positions many times in the name of good TV, I had to question if he's lost his balls.
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    The Louis Theroux one was disappointing. I think the main problem was that he did not have the connections and the trust of key people that Remini had for her series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    The Louis Theroux one was disappointing. I think the main problem was that he did not have the connections and the trust of key people that Remini had for her series.
    Yeah maybe this was the problem.

    I did enjoy it because of the guy he was interviewing, can't remember his name now but he was an interesting guy and strangely sort of likeable despite his sinister nature. But it was definitely lacking in something, Going Clear was much better.
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    Louis Theroux is bitch-made.
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    Yeah but he's a good presenter. Couldn't give a fuck if he's a pussy whipped little faggot, he makes good TV.
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    Holy shit, no! He hung out with security contractors in Johannesburg, white separatists, some aggressive zionists on the gaza strip. That guy stood his ground in a garage plastered with swastika flags against a dozen drunk neo nazis and refused to tell them if he was jewish or not. (he's not)

    Documentary filmmaking is a bit of a crapshoot. They just didn't get the footage they hoped for. Scientology has likely gotten better at public relations after a bunch of embarrassing youtube moments so all they had going for them were a couple ex members who didn't really connect with him. I still think it was a worthwhile effort.
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    He's a fucking cuck.
  34. #24859
    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    He's a fucking cuck.
    He's friends with Adam & Joe. So this isn't true.
  35. #24860
    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    The Louis Theroux one was disappointing. I think the main problem was that he did not have the connections and the trust of key people that Remini had for her series.
    Depends what you went into it expecting I think. If you expected it to be some big expose on Scientology then yeah it was shit but I thought the whole concept was pretty funny.
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    Louis Theroux is fake news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    He's friends with Adam & Joe. So this isn't true.
    Sometimes when Joe talks about government he lets the cuck come out.

    He had Bravo on. First thing they talk about is people doing crazy dangerous things that can kill them and how the government shouldn't regulate it. But then they got on how "what if kids are copying" and stuff like that. The only thing they could think of was in terms of "problem ---> government solution". And I'm sitting here thinking when the fuck did the entire fucking country forget that it's the PARENTS job to protect kids.

    We can have parents in charge or government in charge. Empower the family or the state. Deity-based religion or humanistic social religion. The individual or the bureaucracy. Can't empower both. Can't have it both ways.
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    Don't forget that "kids" at this point is until you're like fucking 28 or some shit. Child support extends into the 20s for fuck's sake, and that includes for your own kids.

    My chick's step-sister moved to New York to live with her aunt. The reasoning was she got knocked up by whothefuckknows and was going to try to get a bunch of welfare and shit. She was 18. She sued her parents (who live in North Carolina) for child support. As in paying her until she was 21 because they were her parents.
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  39. #24864
    Best Buy said they would deliver my new washing machine between 12pm and 4pm yesterday

    They showed up at 8:30pm

    I hope I'm on this guy's jury

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...FmJ?li=BBnbfcL
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    charged with aggravated menacing

    Surely we can just file this under the "clear and present danger" part of the 1st amendment, right? Telling a store that you're going to assault it with guns is reasonably likely to cause a panic in the store, not unlike shouting "theater" in a crowded firehouse, or something.
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    I just found out Louie cucked his scientology movie so hard, he cucked his main subject Marty Rathbun right back into Scientology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Best Buy said they would deliver my new washing machine between 12pm and 4pm yesterday

    They showed up at 8:30pm

    I hope I'm on this guy's jury

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...FmJ?li=BBnbfcL
    I hate that fucking shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Sometimes when Joe talks about government he lets the cuck come out.

    He had Bravo on. First thing they talk about is people doing crazy dangerous things that can kill them and how the government shouldn't regulate it. But then they got on how "what if kids are copying" and stuff like that. The only thing they could think of was in terms of "problem ---> government solution". And I'm sitting here thinking when the fuck did the entire fucking country forget that it's the PARENTS job to protect kids.

    We can have parents in charge or government in charge. Empower the family or the state. Deity-based religion or humanistic social religion. The individual or the bureaucracy. Can't empower both. Can't have it both ways.
    Yeah I mean, it is what it is. People want the government to be responsible for everything so that they as individuals don't have to deal with responsibility for anything. That gives people someone else to blame if their kids end up fucked up because they tried to hang glide off of the side of an apartment building with a sheet tied around their neck like Superman. It's Idiocracy playing out with people wanting plausible deniability.

    Same thing with all of these ignorant motherfuckers wanting socialism, the goal of which is to reach communism, which in turn is the single largest non-natural cause of death in the history of human beings. It's some "gimme gimme gimme" shit and not wanting responsibility for themselves and the people under their care.
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    When I watched Joe Rogans interview with Ron Miscavige I thought Joe was unusually forward in his questioning, continually trying to get Ron to admit responsibility and at first viewing I felt it was out of line, but what I think what happened was that Joe looked through the act and realized he was dealing with a manipulative and abusive person who was really only concerned with himself. I re-watched a bit of the scientology movie yesterday and I think that's the same thing that happened with Louie and Marty. Mostly because Louie literally spelled it out, not because I'm feeling any less autistic. I guess I'm just not the greatest judge of character.
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    I don't think painting political ideas with broad terms like socialism has ever helped move discourse along. You get into that comfy type of tribal thinking where you associate with a bundle of ideas that are loosely connected and you try to defend anything within that structure and reject anything outside of it without much critical thinking. It feels good because it's easy, but it's not conducive to rational thought.
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    The discourse shouldn't be "moved along." Anyone who supports communism should be given a history lesson. If they further support communism after that, then their stupidity is clearly a danger to human beings as a whole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    Anyone who supports communism should be given a history lesson.
    Once upon a time, in Da Nang.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Sometimes when Joe talks about government he lets the cuck come out.
    Now, with more context, you thought I meant Joe Rogan & this post makes sense. I did not mean Joe Rogan.

    I meant Adam & Joe.
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    I think I might apply to be a diversity and inclusion counsellor at uni as I can't imagine there are enough white people doing that.
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    The discourse shouldn't be "moved along." Anyone who supports communism should be given a history lesson. If they further support communism after that, then their stupidity is clearly a danger to human beings as a whole.
    Wow that certainly could not be said about anything other than whatever your vague definition of communism is.
    Rather than feeding what I'm about 75% certain is another troll post, here's something vaguely interesting: The austrian communist party would not be considered a communist party by most communists. The reason they keep the name is because they think it would be disrespectful to their roots as a counter movement to national socialism. For them and I guess many others the term communism is synonymous with rebellion, so they might call themselves communists but in many respects it would not be helpful to identify them as communists when you're trying to categorize their ideas.
    Every political label has been bastardized so much that I cringe a bit every time I hear them. Alt-right immediately comes to mind. When did that stop being synonymous with the KKK? And what good is it to call yourself alt-right when you're an androgynous fag who would have been spat at by anyone calling themselves alt-right 50 years ago. It's nothing but an excuse for diversion instead of talking about anything of substance.
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    Equating socialism with communism is lol 1950s thinking for ignorant people. If that's a troll, you need to up your game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    Now, with more context, you thought I meant Joe Rogan & this post makes sense. I did not mean Joe Rogan.

    I meant Adam & Joe.
    I tyhought you meant Rogan and Carolla.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    I think I might apply to be a diversity and inclusion counsellor at uni as I can't imagine there are enough white people doing that.
    Because "diversity" is code for non-white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    I don't think painting political ideas with broad terms like socialism has ever helped move discourse along. You get into that comfy type of tribal thinking where you associate with a bundle of ideas that are loosely connected and you try to defend anything within that structure and reject anything outside of it without much critical thinking. It feels good because it's easy, but it's not conducive to rational thought.
    True. It's preaching to the choir.
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    Equating socialism with communism is lol 1950s thinking for ignorant people. If that's a troll, you need to up your game.
    They're about as different as Cassius Clay is with Muhammad Ali.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    They're about as different as Cassius Clay is with Muhammad Ali.
    They're about as similar as socialism and pure capitalism.
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    I wonder where that idea comes from given that one is organized around social ownership of property and the other totally different one is organized around social ownership of property.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    I don't think painting political ideas with broad terms like socialism has ever helped move discourse along. You get into that comfy type of tribal thinking where you associate with a bundle of ideas that are loosely connected and you try to defend anything within that structure and reject anything outside of it without much critical thinking. It feels good because it's easy, but it's not conducive to rational thought.
    Irony. You're totally right. And yet the next thing I do (knowingly) is the opposite of what you say that is right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I wonder where that idea comes from given that one is organized around social ownership of property and the other totally different one is organized around social ownership of property.
    Your argument seems to be that they're identical and interchangeable. They're not.

    If you have a pure communist system, there can be no private ownership. If you have a pure capitalist system, there can be no public ownership. Socialism exists in the middle range of that continuum, with some public and some private ownership.

    There is this funny idea I come across in a lot of Americans that socialism = communism. People in socialist countries certainly notice the difference between their country and a communist one. Don't know what else to tell you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Your argument seems to be that they're identical and interchangeable. They're not.

    If you have a pure communist system, there can be no private ownership. If you have a pure capitalist system, there can be no public ownership. Socialism exists in the middle range of that continuum, with some public and some private ownership.

    There is this funny idea I come across in a lot of Americans that socialism = communism. People in socialist countries certainly notice the difference between their country and a communist one. Don't know what else to tell you.
    It has to do with communism describing an entire society; whereas socialism is often used to describe components of a society. Calling them the same emerges from comparing them at a principle level.
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    Regardless it doesn't matter. Socialism sucks too.

    And the countries claimed to be socialist heroes are not that socialist. They're deeply welfarist and smartly capitalist. One of those results in their achieved success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Regardless it doesn't matter. Socialism sucks too.

    And the countries claimed to be socialist heroes are not that socialist. They're deeply welfarist and smartly capitalist. One of those results in their achieved success.
    Ok, well my definition of socialism vis-a-vis capitalism includes these forms of re-assignment of wealth and public services such as welfare universal health care. If you're just talking about who owns the land and buildings then ya, there's not a lot of communism in "socialist" countries. Thus in a purely Marxist definition, this disqualifies them from being labelled socialist. But that isn't the definition most of the world goes by any more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    And the countries claimed to be socialist heroes are not that socialist. They're deeply welfarist and smartly capitalist. One of those results in their achieved success.
    This works perfectly, according to the happiness index. Much better than being dumbly (?) capitalist and non-welfarist
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Regardless it doesn't matter.
    No, it does matter. Socialism is socialism, communism is communism. The only way it does not matter is if they were one and the same, and as you may have it they are not

    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    It has to do with communism describing an entire society; whereas socialism is often used to describe components of a society. Calling them the same emerges from comparing them at a principle level.
    No. Calling them the same is indicative of ideology. Name-calling, if you may. Like in the middle ages, during the witch hunts, whatever you can't explain must be work of the devil therefore witches therefore burn them alive. Problem is, back then, they couldn't really explain basic math. Wrong analogy, but hopefully you get the point.

    For instance, my mother country? Socialist AF. Communist? No no no; at any given point in time there may be ministers from a multitude of different parties in power at the same time, chosen through actually free and fair (no shenanigans) elections. You can say whatever you want about whomever you want without fear of being bugged, nor being persecuted. You can buy whatever you want from wherever you want whenever you decide to, with money you earn through your labor. Yet we do have universal healthcare, and our healthcare prices (should you have to pay) are also comparatively quite low.

    How exactly is this communism? Calling us communists is not just ignorant, it's actually insulting
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    They are both organized around the principle of social ownership of the means of production. Communism is a more fully actualized version of that principle.

    I don't call them the same. But I do call them derived from the same idea.

    The history on this is neat too. There are essentially two different dominant societal organizing principles. One set is encapsulated by Marx: socialism, communism, fascism. The other set is encapsulated by Smith: mainly private market capitalism. The crazy thing is that they BOTH emerge from the Greeks and the Romans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    This works perfectly, according to the happiness index. Much better than being dumbly (?) capitalist and non-welfarist
    Well, it doesn't work perfectly, though the data does tell us that there isn't a noticeable difference between a country that taxes at 30% and one that taxes at 50%. And the economic theory (very strong theory) tells us that welfare is PROBABLY a drag on wealth and well-being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Ok, well my definition of socialism vis-a-vis capitalism includes these forms of re-assignment of wealth and public services such as welfare universal health care. If you're just talking about who owns the land and buildings then ya, there's not a lot of communism in "socialist" countries. Thus in a purely Marxist definition, this disqualifies them from being labelled socialist. But that isn't the definition most of the world goes by any more.
    It can be tough to pin down because there is a lot of overlap. Regarding the negatives, there are elements of welfarism, socialism, and crony capitalism in each of our countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I don't call them the same. But I do call them derived from the same idea.
    Yes, and it is telling as to your ideology.

    Summing up: coca cola is not cocaine. There are stark differences between socialism and communism. Lumping them together, "might as well", "same idea" etc. is all bollocks.

    I know you do not need the definitions, but here goes. Google says

    Socialism is commonly regarded as an economic system that seeks to achieve equality among members of society. Communism, on the other hand, is both an economic system that seeks equality among members of society and a political ideology that advocates a classless and stateless society and rejects religion. It is regarded as a more extreme form of socialism. (This right here is the misconception, explained with the following reasons: )

    1. Socialism is an economic system while communism is both an economic and political system.
    2. In socialism, the resources of the economy are managed and controlled by the people themselves through communes or councils while in communism, management and control rest on a few people in a single authoritarian party.
    3. Socialists distribute wealth to the people based on an individual’s productive efforts while communists farm out wealth based on an individual’s needs.
    4. Socialists can own personal properties while communists can not.
    5. Socialism allows capitalism to exist in its midst while communism seeks to get rid of capitalism.

    As is demonstrated in the world right now, socialism and capitalism can coexist quite peacefully and successfully, as you yourself alluded to. It's the extreme forms of one (socialism) or the other (capitalism) which are the problem in today's societies.

    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    The history on this is neat too. There are essentially two different dominant societal organizing principles. One set is encapsulated by Marx: socialism, communism, fascism. The other set is encapsulated by Smith: mainly private market capitalism. The crazy thing is that they BOTH emerge from the Greeks and the Romans.
    Speaking of profoundly marxist ideas and idealisms:



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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Well, it doesn't work perfectly, though the data does tell us that there isn't a noticeable difference between a country that taxes at 30% and one that taxes at 50%. And the economic theory (very strong theory) tells us that welfare is PROBABLY a drag on wealth and well-being.
    These are your words, wuf

    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy
    And the countries claimed to be socialist heroes are not that socialist. They're deeply welfarist and smartly capitalist. One of those results in their achieved success.
    I'm perfectly happy with having "achieved success"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    These are your words, wuf



    I'm perfectly happy with having "achieved success"
    I don't mean that there is a place of success and that it has been achieved, but that there is a level of success that has been achieved.

    Wanna make it much much much much bigger success? Get rid of bad policies like high tax high welfare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    socialism and capitalism can coexist quite peacefully and successfully
    Because construction of well-being created by capitalism corrects for the hindrance of well-being caused by socialism.

    It's the extreme forms of one (socialism) or the other (capitalism) which are the problem in today's societies.
    What do you think extreme form of capitalism is?

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    Looks like something an intern put together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    Alt-right immediately comes to mind. When did that stop being synonymous with the KKK?
    Alt-right originally referred to conservatives of various types who did not support the GOP. That's a lot of people. It was later hijacked in a specific speech by Hillary Clinton to associate them with groups like the KKK. That's not many people at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Equating socialism with communism is lol 1950s thinking for ignorant people. If that's a troll, you need to up your game.
    The goal of socialism is communism.

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    A fascist party didn't commit the Holucaust. A socialist party did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    Alt-right originally referred to conservatives of various types who did not support the GOP. That's a lot of people. It was later hijacked in a specific speech by Hillary Clinton to associate them with groups like the KKK. That's not many people at all
    It's funny, I was interested in what the alt-right was back when the label surfaced, so I went to the source. It was nothing. Nothing more than a super tiny group of non-Republicans like you said. The Trump base never had much of any alt-right in it.

    A fascist party didn't commit the Holucaust. A socialist party did.
    Why do you say that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Why do you say that?
    The Nazi party is the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

    (In before "That's not real socialism.")
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    The Nazi party is the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

    (In before "That's not real socialism.")
    It goes to show the truth. How fascism is one element of the Marxist picture.

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