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  1. #7651
    I'm not sure how your ISP handles these situations, but both of my notifications included emails forwarded from the copyright holders to my ISP with the IP address and what was being uploaded (torrented). My ISP did not provide my info to the copyright holders, but if they cut me off they would provide that info.

    I wouldn't worry much about it unless you actually get sued. They threaten to sue everyone and their mothers to convince you to settle out of court. Unless they choose to make an example of you, that's probably as far as it will go.

    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    filesharing is legal.
    Downloading copyrighted material is legal, uploading it is not.

    I also don't think I'd rely on the idea that a private tracker would keep me safe. If I can get an account, MAFIAA members surely could too.
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    okay so my isp doesn't give out my personal information and my father says i have access to legal counsel if it comes to that. can i stop panicking now? it's been like a 3 hour anxiety attack @_@

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    They're asking you to respond which is basically 'cease and desist.'
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    Lol bikes, did you just go to your dad and tell him you're being sued for sterling porn? Did you show him the letter with the porn titles in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    I'm not sure how your ISP handles these situations, but both of my notifications included emails forwarded from the copyright holders to my ISP with the IP address and what was being uploaded (torrented). My ISP did not provide my info to the copyright holders, but if they cut me off they would provide that info.

    I wouldn't worry much about it unless you actually get sued. They threaten to sue everyone and their mothers to convince you to settle out of court. Unless they choose to make an example of you, that's probably as far as it will go.


    Downloading copyrighted material is legal, uploading it is not.

    I also don't think I'd rely on the idea that a private tracker would keep me safe. If I can get an account, MAFIAA members surely could too.
    Pretty sure uploading is still legal. It's the profiting off of uploads that isn't legal. That's why MU got crunched, they were specifically targeting profits for copyrighted material.

    Unless I'm missing something, uploading is not legally any different than letting people watch your TV. There's just sooooooooo much money against filesharing that the legality isn't being upheld
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Pretty sure uploading is still legal. It's the profiting off of uploads that isn't legal. That's why MU got crunched, they were specifically targeting profits for copyrighted material.

    Unless I'm missing something, uploading is not legally any different than letting people watch your TV. There's just sooooooooo much money against filesharing that the legality isn't being upheld
    Isn't the argument that, while you are not profiting, you are causing the copyright holder harm?
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    i worded it far more delicately than that and basically said there is a chance i may be sued for copyright infringement for downloading movies and tv shows.

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  8. #7658
    When I was young I learned that sharing is caring.
    Then I grew up and learned that sharing is stealing.
  9. #7659
    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    Isn't the argument that, while you are not profiting, you are causing the copyright holder harm?
    i honestly dont know. it's really complicated law, but this is probably the best answer i could find

    Is downloading music illegal if you do not upload anything. Where in the DMCA does it mention this issue


    there is a reason why uploaders are not being put in jail. if it was illegal, the doj would be arresting people. also, the president of zuffa, who supports sopa quite a bit, claimed that it's not about going after those sharing the files, but those profiting off sharing the files

    the law is just really complicated, but even dmca has exemptions. the real legal line looks to still be based in copy-for-profit
  10. #7660
    the whole Big Content copyright/filesharing battle is a fantastic example of how those who have money not only rule the society, but make oppressive decisions for the point of making more money, and attempt to quash innovation in order to save their oligopolies on the market
  11. #7661
    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    Isn't the argument that, while you are not profiting, you are causing the copyright holder harm?
    proving harm is key right?
  12. #7662
    we should start a non profit that secures donations for legal defense of people being harassed by the IRAA, MPAA and so on. If I knew such a thing existed, I'd donate some change every time I downloaded something illegally. Kind of a use tax and a way to stick it to Big Entertainment.
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    I just click the virus porn ads.
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    itt we learn bikes is a lil bitch when someone threatens him with harsh sounding words @_@

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikes View Post
    itt we learn bikes is a lil bitch when someone threatens him with harsh sounding words @_@
    Harsh sounding word fear is 1 of many reasons im going into law. I have a hope that theyll magically not be scary anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikes View Post
    itt we learn bikes is a lil bitch when someone threatens him with harsh sounding words @_@
    nobody on this board has had as many anxiety attacks as me. nobody
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    I'm not sure how your ISP handles these situations, but both of my notifications included emails forwarded from the copyright holders to my ISP with the IP address and what was being uploaded (torrented). My ISP did not provide my info to the copyright holders, but if they cut me off they would provide that info.

    I wouldn't worry much about it unless you actually get sued. They threaten to sue everyone and their mothers to convince you to settle out of court. Unless they choose to make an example of you, that's probably as far as it will go.


    Downloading copyrighted material is legal, uploading it is not.

    I also don't think I'd rely on the idea that a private tracker would keep me safe. If I can get an account, MAFIAA members surely could too.

    This.

    Next time when downloading pr0n, get a good vpn and give them the finger.



    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    When I was young I learned that sharing is caring.
    Then I grew up and learned that sharing is stealing.
    Ok Hawk, don't fall into this trap. An example:
    James Murdoch: illegal downloading no different from stealing a handbag | Media | guardian.co.uk

    This guy says downloading illegally is the same as stealing a handbag. Except, when you steal the handbag and have it in your possession it's gone from the previous owner. When you download something, the previous owner still has his or her own copy he or she can still benefit from. It's definitely different.

    The downloading is stealing metaphor is basically brought to life by the proverbial appendix, if you will, of the various businesses that have been blindsided by the internet. Basically, middlemen are not that needed anymore: any single artist, entertainer, author or whatever else that can produce content an get this to the market (which is exactly what he or she wants) in much easier ways, therefore reducing the actual cost to produce and therefore the amount that has to be sold to break even and start profiting.

    Another point, we used to be able to buy CDs at, say, $10 a pop. $20 at most. CDs consist of wave tracks which are totally uncompressed audio files, coming in at an average of 50 MBs a pop 500 MBS for a 10 track cd. You can definitely hear the difference between a cd and an mp3, difference whih will be much more pronounced if you have the proper equipment. But today the audio industry (read: middlemen) want us to buy an 5MB mp3 at $1. Buy the whole disc for $10 to get 10 tracks. You basically get 50MBs instead of the 500MBs if you bought the physical copy for the same price. Except, you don't get a physical disc you can put in your bookshelf; it's delivered to you digitally. Previously you could lend this cd to a friend that he or she could benefit as well from. Nowadays this action is considered a crime, because if you lend your frined the mp3s you bought you still have them on your computer, therefore both of you could get benefit of the same copy.

    Copying is not stealing, it's copying. The whole "you wouldn't steal a car" ad series was a total sham.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKDS View Post
    Dear Wufwugy

    Double post more. This way, i get to see the boing boing boing on multiple parts of my screen for double or even tripple the boing

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  20. #7670
    Quote Originally Posted by bikes View Post
    itt we learn bikes is a lil bitch when someone threatens him with harsh sounding words @_@
    Slightly mitigating because I was like 11 but I think I'd have the same reaction today: I was trying to register a game with pirated/cracked/whatever serial code and it said it's expired and I should please email the game company to get an updated one.
    So I did, and got a reply back like, "Haha sucker, we've logged your IP address and we're not gonna do anything to you but if at some point the company experiences any kind of financial difficulty we're gonn sue everyone on our list" and I was wetting myself for weeks.
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    BBC News - York Facebook hacking student Glenn Mangham jailed

    I think its ridiculous that this dude is going to prison for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanAronG View Post
    BBC News - York Facebook hacking student Glenn Mangham jailed

    I think its ridiculous that this dude is going to prison for this.


    This is just a clear display of people in power having no clue and having antiquated misinformed ideas about what has happened. They don't seem to be able to put into words what damage was actually done, and when they try, they offer the most arbitrary reasoning for his extreme punishment. The judge implies that had it not been a multi billion dollar company that he hacked into, it wouldn't have been that big of a deal. What!? And it's claimed that it wasn't simply "harmless experimenting", yet that is exactly what it appears to be. If anything, it was beneficial to facebook, seeing as he made the exploit known without exploiting the company.

    Seriously, fuck old people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post




    Seriously, fuck old people.
    Much better than old people fucking.

    It is slow and sloppy.
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    It's the kind of warped thinking you expect to see in America but is becoming more commonplace over here.
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    yes, the uk is becoming america-lite. you guys gotta put a quash on importing american bred corporate tabloid propaganda media
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    yes, the uk is becoming america-lite. you guys gotta put a quash on importing american bred corporate tabloid propaganda media
    Ugh. Canada's getting a case of lolmerica politics too with our conservative majority government now in power. They're currently pushing a new bill which will give police and government officials access to all your information from ISPs, which will now have to track everything we do, without a warrant.

    Our public safety minister Vic Toews claims anyone against this bill is siding with child pornographers. Someone created a twitter account about him called VikiLeaks30 where they made several posts about his adulterous ways, messy divorce incidents, and public statements he has backed out on. So now our government has decided it will have to launch an investigation to find out who's behind this twitter account even though this information was already publicly available and not gathered by some illegal means.


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  29. #7679
    how politicians use child porn to push agendas really irritates me. their arguments are akin to "if you dont support illegal searches and seizures of automobiles, you support child pornography because child molesters use cars". and the public just gobbles it up. this is just stupid. not even chimp stupid. it's like alligator stupid
  30. #7680
    I will never again give another penny to Hollywood. Never again will I go to the theater or rent a movie. They can go fuck themselves. They want to destroy the internet and destroy innovation so they can charge out the ass for entertainment and their attempted oligopoly on culture. This isn't about piracy, it's about them not wanting to change service and production to meet demand

    Looks like ACTA has been getting beat down a little, but again there's a new bill worse than SOPA going through Congress. It will not pass, but these people are fucking looooosers. Fucking idiot looooozzzzers who whine and complain about not being able to charge you 25 bucks for two hours of trying to engage in popular culture. Fuck them, fuck their incessant destruction of culture and entertainment development, and fuck the billions of dollars this dynamic has allowed them to steal from people
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    how politicians use child porn to push agendas really irritates me. their arguments are akin to "if you dont support illegal searches and seizures of automobiles, you support child pornography because child molesters use cars". and the public just gobbles it up. this is just stupid. not even chimp stupid. it's like alligator stupid
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    the irony is that in order to stop racketeering, you have to be a racket yourself
  33. #7683
    This is what anti-piracy is about. It's not about theft or lost sales, it's about Hollywood being utter scum that want complete control over production. If they're not allowed to bribe politicians to pass laws that enhance their ability to force-feed you Justin Bieber and Justin Timberlake, they'll be damned

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    /me slaps boostngiggle

    dunno if i like this one as much as saul paul - list of demands
    but def is good.

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  36. #7686
    def not list of demands good.

    There are several songs in one there, and I like some, and dislike others. So it's a wash.
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    I am a case study in self-destruction
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    If you're gonna self destruct make sure it involves hookers n blow. May as well self destruct while wasted with hotties than while sober without hotties. It also makes for a more interesting story.
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  39. #7689
    Man, I'm really all that into UFC, but I caught this recap at work yesterday. Fucking epic.

    Watch Cheick Kongo's Absurd Knockout Of Pat Barry
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    Fuck, because of the link/vid title, right up until the end I assumed Kongo was the white guy. That's some come back.
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    fuck this shitty camera. anyways, carnival! gonna get fucked up drunk soon, or as the french say, maintenant!
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    Man, I'm really all that into UFC, but I caught this recap at work yesterday. Fucking epic.

    Watch Cheick Kongo's Absurd Knockout Of Pat Barry
    Wow. I love the multiple "It's over" comments by the commentators...WRONG
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    i'm so glad i purchased the last foo fighter album i owned.

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    And I'm glad that Dave Grohl is cool about me stealing it.
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    boost y u no like mma?

  46. #7696
    Quote Originally Posted by DanAronG View Post
    And I'm glad that Dave Grohl is cool about me stealing it.
    The original purpose for patents and copyright was to keep things that benefit a society from dying with its creator. Many people with new ideas or products would keep them under wraps because it was too easy for rich people to rip it off.

    We have bastardized this idea into claiming that the only thing that matters is personal ownership and money and blah blah blah. What matters is the social benefit, corporations controlling production and distribution channels is the opposite of what copyright was meant to be
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    <3 parabol/parabola

    Besides the frail/the wretched, what are other amazing one two song combos?
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    Lol. I'm def not sober. What's in the box?
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    hey bigred this is four you

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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    hey bigred this is four you

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    WHO THE FUCK ATE ITS EARS!!?!??
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    hey u remember that time i said u were the funniest person on ftr because i didnt post much then at some later date u said hi im wufwugy but it wasnt funny at all
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    Wufwugy, tell me about your relationship with the females and where it went wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigred View Post
    Wufwugy, tell me about your relationship with the females and where it went wrong.
    I attracted a toxic woman. Deep down, I knew she was toxic, but I couldn't help myself. Later, her toxicity prevailed, and I decided I could not trust my own decision making. I figured that if I was weak enough to engage in a relationship with a person that I knew was really just taking advantage of me then I ultimately have no control over what happens in my relationships. So then I opted to have no relationships due to the need to understand and overcome this problem, yet that process becomes a problem in and of itself, while not being much of a solution in the first place
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    You could say that
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    Was it "Doesn't matter, had sex!" good?

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    If it was, I wouldn't be pretending to be a misogynist
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    Is that why you like fat chicks now? They'll never use you, they're grateful for your time, will prob even let you lecture them about politics while you're doing it.
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    Wuf doesn't like fat chicks. He likes real women. I don't get it when he gets shit for liking "fat chicks."

    Wuf and I should go whale hunting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanAronG View Post
    Is that why you like fat chicks now? They'll never use you, they're grateful for your time, will prob even let you lecture them about politics while you're doing it.
    Get them to yell slogans while you pump...
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    Wuf... idk, mma, like most other sports, just doesn't hold my interest. I do really like a good stand up mma fight, and if I'm in the mood I can enjoy the technical/strategic ground work... but for the most part, I just don't care. Same goes for most boxing. If it's not Roy Jones or Ali, then I'm pretty 'meh' about it.
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    I'm sure trickle down theory should be in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanAronG View Post
    Fuck, because of the link/vid title, right up until the end I assumed Kongo was the white guy. That's some come back.
    lol. in a fight between 1 black guy and 1 white guy, with the names being Cheick Kongo and Pat Barry, somehow you assume the white guy is Kongo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bode View Post
    lol. in a fight between 1 black guy and 1 white guy, with the names being Cheick Kongo and Pat Barry, somehow you assume the white guy is Kongo?

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    I also thought this when I saw that post
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    That was the point of the post, that in spite of this, based on the progress of the fight it seemed so unlikely that the eventual winner would actually win.
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