The problem with Islam

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I think it's good enough to just hold various beliefs to civil standards. Making thought a crime is bad stuff, by that alone it is important that religion remain a right, but this doesn't mean that behaviors that don't adhere to civil standards based on religious beliefs should be accepted.

If you want to believe in an all powerful being or savior, that should be totally fine. But if you want to believe that this belief allows you to treat people unfairly, that should not be fine.

Thought crime? Not what I said. Illegal to expose kids to which would stop it taking such a deep rooted hold (take you wuf with your thoughts turning to God on those sleepless nights) and only becoming a problem on adults when it starts effecting your day to day life. So effectively treating it like a thought disorder, like old or psychosis.

[wufwugy]

Thought crime? Not what I said. Illegal to expose kids to which would stop it taking such a deep rooted hold (take you wuf with your thoughts turning to God on those sleepless nights) and only becoming a problem on adults when it starts effecting your day to day life. So effectively treating it like a thought disorder, like old or psychosis.

You said it should be wrong to introduce a child to a particular idea. That's making thought a crime. Unless I missed something...

[rong]

You said it should be wrong to introduce a child to a particular idea. That's making thought a crime. Unless I missed something...

The crime is exposing the child to he idea. Not havong the idea. There's a difference.

[wufwugy]

The crime is exposing the child to he idea. Not havong the idea. There's a difference.

So then it's speech-of-thought crime.

I dunno, you redcoats never did get onto this whole free speech thing. It's good stuff. I suggest appropriation.

But really, if exposure of "bad" ideas is illegal, we'll find ourselves pretty quickly in the kind of society few of us wanna live in.

[rong]

So then it's speech-of-thought crime.

I dunno, you redcoats never did get onto this whole free speech thing. It's good stuff. I suggest appropriation.

But really, if exposure of "bad" ideas is illegal, we'll find ourselves pretty quickly in the kind of society few of us wanna live in.

I don't understand what the thought crime is? If you kept deliberately exposing your young children to something you knew was likely to lead to delusions and psychosis you'd probably be dealing with social.services before long.

[a500lbgorilla]

I don't understand what the thought crime is? If you kept deliberately exposing your young children to something you knew was likely to lead to delusions and psychosis you'd probably be dealing with social.services before long.

Some delusion is valuable. Stark cold rationality is not the best choice for everyone. One of the central features of religion is that it gives people the tools and frame of mind to keep at it. To have faith in a good result without consideration for the position you're in, sometimes that's what's needed.

Why do you think religion pops up so often and has stuck around for so long?