Oh hai guys ^_^

[Penneywize]

wtf, yer not tired of my shit though?

I dunno, we used to hang out in IRC a lot and I got to know you a bit so I figure you have earned the right to shit on me from time to time. Bikes I barely ever knew, he just seems to dislike my opinions and insults me for them unprovoked. Which strikes me as pretty lame

[bikes]

shots fired.

[bikes]

[02:46pm] [h0zer] so apparently penneysize "knows" me. this is news to me
[02:47pm] [h0zer] calling you out on you SHIT bikes
[02:47pm] [h0zer] lol
[02:47pm] [bikes] i already called shots fired
[02:48pm] [h0zer] I love how he's all srs
[02:48pm] [h0zer] THIS SHIT REAL YO

[d0zer]

bikes wtf, I didn't say any of that. A+ use of fake timestamps and stirring shit up tho

[boost]

After thinking about it a little I'm not sure what you have against my viewpoint. If we were to argue whether outward expressions of homosexuality and things like gay pride parades have had their place in changing mainstream opinion over the years I doubt I would raise any points to the contrary. I probably should not have said that I was "against" gay pride parades as that can easily be misconstrued as saying I don't think they should ever have existed though. But I do think they are obscene - and I can have that viewpoint, can't I? Is it not just personal preference?

As for carnival, it seems to me scantily clad women / festive atmosphere etc would sound like a good time. I happen to like women. So I'd definitely check that shit out if I were in Brazil that time of year. Is it obscene though? Maybe. That is, to say, I probably wouldn't bring my children to it.

If your argument boils down to me being shortsighted unless I equally value something like carnival and something like a gay pride parade then I can't say I agree with that at all.

btw Bikes, gettin real tired of your shit man. It strikes me as odd that you seemingly take potshots at me for no apparent reason from time to time without bringing anything to the discussion. I'm sure you're a nice guy irl and shit, but, shocker, if you knew me personally you'd probably think the same of me.

I'm not sure what you mean by "value both of them equally." My point is that they both are "obscene", so I'm not really sure why you'd presumably be ok with one and not with the other. No one's forcing you to go, forcing you to bring your kids, or forcing you to suck a big fat cock. You can hold whatever viewpoint you'd like, and I can hold the viewpoint that your viewpoint sucks. However, I'd prefer to articulate why I think you have a shitty viewpoint. If all you can say in response is "well, we are all entitled to our opinions" you've retreated to a false stalemate.

My point boils down to the fact that people are different and they should have every right to express their differences so long as it doesn't restrict someone else's rights. Whether you like their expression or not doesn't really matter, and I'm quite curious to know why you would think it does. "I personally don't think I'd care to attend a pride parade, but that's cool that they do their thing" is a perfectly reasonable stance. However, eing against a person or group's freedom of expression because you don't find it aesthetically pleasing is pretty much indefensible.

[Penneywize]

Boost, reread my post man. I said I should have not used the term "against" gay pride parades as that has the connotation of perhaps thinking they should not be allowed. As for not liking them, I care little for whether you think this viewpoint is shitty. I don't like mashed potatoes, but don't dispute the right of others to like mashed potatoes. But does my tolerance for, or the feasibility of my viewpoint towards mash potatoes have to be measured in how much I personally like how they taste? Come on, man.

A straight couple making out in public is indeed just as obscene as a gay couple making out in public. However, being that I am a straight man, I can relate more to the straight couple making out in public because it's something that I've done. Being that I've never had an urge to kiss another man in public I can relate less to this. But in no way do I dispute their right to do it, nor do I devalue their own desires or needs just because I don't personally have them. Assail this point of view, please, I want to hear it. I want to hear you tell me that I should like things that are gay just as much as things that are straight because saying otherwise makes me shortsighted or, worse, bigoted.

I think mine is a very defensible viewpoint. Not all things gay should be applauded just because they're gay. There are situations that call for outward expression for political ends and then there are situations where outwards expressions of homosexuality are inappropriate or at least unnecessary.

Let me again stress that I was wrong to use the word "against" because of the connotations it has. But, so long as we're using anecdotes to justify arguments, I have a few gay acquaintances who themselves have said that they are "against" gay pride parades because of how they perpetuate gay stereotypes.

[Penneywize]

My point boils down to the fact that people are different and they should have every right to express their differences so long as it doesn't restrict someone else's rights

Maybe we shouldn't be arguing, then, because I've never said this wasn't the case.

[Penneywize]

bikes wtf, I didn't say any of that. A+ use of fake timestamps and stirring shit up tho

eh well in case the chat text is real I should say my hanging out in IRC dates back to 2010 when I was playing poker a lot so yeah it's been some time

[Galapogos]

So... why did you leave again?

[boost]

Maybe we shouldn't be arguing, then, because I've never said this wasn't the case.

For sure. We probably do agree more than our propensity for argument shows.

All I'll say is that you should just be sure to be very clear of your stance on this issue, as the gays are the underdog. If you aren't careful and no one calls you on it, they might say "yeah, fuck those homos" and feel they have someone else standing with them. Then they go to the ballot box... That's really my biggest fear, a dispassionate and inarticulate majority who favors civil rights, losing out to a vocal and mistakenly encouraged bigoted minority when it comes time to vote.

[Penneywize]

For sure. We probably do agree more than our propensity for argument shows.

All I'll say is that you should just be sure to be very clear of your stance on this issue, as the gays are the underdog. If you aren't careful and no one calls you on it, they might say "yeah, fuck those homos" and feel they have someone else standing with them. Then they go to the ballot box... That's really my biggest fear, a dispassionate and inarticulate majority who favors civil rights, losing out to a vocal and mistakenly encouraged bigoted minority when it comes time to vote.

Yeah you're absolutely right. While at its core I think my viewpoint is quite innocuous it can be easy to misconstrue it or, worse, for me to articulate it poorly. I think maybe being from a country where LGBT issues aren't really at the forefront of politics since the major hurdles i.e. gay marriage and so on have all been passed has something to do with my viewpoint being what it is. In the US I can understand why it'd be desirable to have more people want to be actively pushing in the same direction - publicly, I mean.

[BennyLaRue]

For sure. We probably do agree more than our propensity for argument shows.

All I'll say is that you should just be sure to be very clear of your stance on this issue, as the gays are the underdog. If you aren't careful and no one calls you on it, they might say "yeah, fuck those homos" and feel they have someone else standing with them. Then they go to the ballot box... That's really my biggest fear, a dispassionate and inarticulate majority who favors civil rights, losing out to a vocal and mistakenly encouraged bigoted minority when it comes time to vote.

When and where are we voting? Imma bring a Dave Matthews and a Madonna playlist on my Ipod to make sure I got all dose bases covered.

[BennyLaRue]

I feel like that was dated. I should have gone with Blake Shelton and Dangerous Muse. Sorry, guys.

[Galapogos]

When and where are we voting? Imma bring a Dave Matthews and a Madonna playlist on my Ipod to make sure I got all dose bases covered.

Haha good one!

I feel like that was dated. I should have gone with Blake Shelton and Dangerous Muse. Sorry, guys.

Who?

[bigred]

So... why did you leave again?

My brain kept saying this and then almost cause a head asplode when what I was reading matched what I was thinking!


I think this might be a deep troll as it's common knowledge the second worst thing to do in my return thread is to engage in a srs bznz internet discussion. Worst thing would have been poker strategy.

[bigred]

Bigred starts a thread. It devolves into an outcry against the internet gay agenda.

Sounds about right.

Classic Rilla.

[bigred]

I'm the cat, the hand is FTR!!!!! Thanks be to today's imgur front page!

[Penneywize]

Oh yeah also I don't like cats much

I am just the worst kind of person aren't I

[Savy]

Oh yeah also I don't like cats much

I am just the worst kind of person aren't I

How can you not like cats, they are just chilled out creatures for the most part. Can be a pain in the arse when they are kittens but soon grow out of the scratch everything and always run around stage.

[Penneywize]

I just think they're dicks. Like nearly without exception, every cat is a dick.

[wufwugy]

TIL Penney only has known like 3 cats ever

[Penneywize]

This is mostly accurate

They were all dicks

Though there was one that was pretty nice to me, I taught it to "speak" (meow) on command, which made it more of a dog to me than anything else.

[bigred]

Can we come up with a new feature where if you're the OP, you can ban people from your thread? No particular reason I'm asking. Nope nope nope.

[bigred]

Penney, you are the god damn frisbee to this thread's hilariously cute dog

[d0zer]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHA

bigred, you are the bees knees

[boost]

Hey, come on guys, let's not pick on anyone. The people we don't want in this thread have feelings too.

[bigred]

Hey, come on guys, let's not pick on anyone. The people we don't want in this thread have feelings too.

Your post makes sense like this picture

[Penneywize]

I also don't like horses

[bigred]

I also don't like horses

Come on guys, be the birds! Let penney be the stupid, stupid antagonizer!



Although, I'm not a fan of horses either.

[a500lbgorilla]

I like bread.

[Penneywize]

I am just trolling now. Horses OK.

[a500lbgorilla]

And penney is right, cats ain't shit but bitches and hoes.

You know what's better than a cat? Any single dog ever, ever. Even the ones that killed innocent children. I trust the judgement of those dogs. Those kids were dicks and deserved it.



Look at that awesome dog. First hit for 'any random dog ever'. Doesn't even matter it's sideways.

[boost]

Animals are awesome, pets on the other hand...

I mean, buying companionship is strange-- even stranger is having that companionship be coerced.

It's just a very peculiar arrangement, and it is even more strange since no one seems to acknowledge that it is.

[Penneywize]

Rilla and I see eye to eye on this. Dogs are the greatest.

[a500lbgorilla]

Animals are awesome, pets on the other hand...

I mean, buying companionship is strange-- even stranger is having that companionship be coerced.

It's just a very peculiar arrangement, and it is even more strange since no one seems to acknowledge that it is.

Nah, dogs love that shit. Besides, most wouldn't be if not for the history of domestication that preceded them. So all those genes that give em floppy ears, eternal adolescence, and eyes that search for yours are pleased as punch. Cooperative fitness and all that.

[boost]

I guess it's easy to be utilitarian with things you don't personally appreciate.. but I have no issue with a hunter having a hunting dog, or a shepherd having a dog that keeps wolves away and the flock from straying, etc. But having a dog to have a dog is peculiar to me. Even more so the more urban the setting is.

[bikes]

i miss having bigred around more often.

[Penneywize]

I think having pet bigreds is going to be a real growth market.

[bigred]

I think having pet bigreds is going to be a real growth market.

Because of all the boners!

[a500lbgorilla]

[a500lbgorilla]

[bigred]

Hey look! I'm your quote!

[bigred]

Now taking applications to get into the nest. We're very picky here in the nest, bro.

[bikes]

Already in the nest yo.

[chardrian]

I rarely, if ever, get pms

[swiggidy]

You stood me up for a hot tub cuddle session. Nest worthy.

[bigred]

You stood me up for a hot tub cuddle session. Nest worthy.

When did this happen and why wouldn't I just invite you to the session? You're a great big spoon.

[swiggidy]

You sold out for work and I spent the whole weekend looking at the hot tub shedding a tear. You wouldn't remember because you weren't there. Now I want to cry again. Gator would back me up, but doesn't really post anymore.

[bigred]

You sold out for work and I spent the whole weekend looking at the hot tub shedding a tear. You wouldn't remember because you weren't there. Now I want to cry again. Gator would back me up, but doesn't really post anymore.

Oh yes....

[Penneywize]

Can we go back to arguing as to whether I am a bigot or not

[bikes]

You stood me up for a hot tub cuddle session. Nest worthy.

You came to vegas in a damn buckeye shirt. Nest worthy.

[bigred]

You came to vegas in a damn buckeye shirt. Nest worthy.

Boom, get in the nest Swigg! Mad props fo yo swag.


We like to sit poolside drinking triple vodka sodas telling each other how awesome they are.

[swiggidy]

We like to sit poolside drinking triple vodka sodas telling each other how awesome they are.

This is what causes someone to briefly black out, come to unable to differentiate between 6p and 6a, then possibly jump in a random taxi with a random group of dudes, before sprinting up the strip and hurriedly packing bags and getting in a second taxi to the airport, only to have said second taxi turn around when one realized the difference between 6p and 6a.

The only thing that made me feel better is the taxi driver told me it was not the first time it had happened to him.

[bikes]

3:1 you won't take off your swim trunks and wave them over your head in the pool at the hard rock.

oh wait.

[bigred]

Awwwww shiiiiit son. My sister introduced me to lessons in love by kaskade. FUCK YES

[bigred]

This is what causes someone to briefly black out, come to unable to differentiate between 6p and 6a, then possibly jump in a random taxi with a random group of dudes, before sprinting up the strip and hurriedly packing bags and getting in a second taxi to the airport, only to have said second taxi turn around when one realized the difference between 6p and 6a.

The only thing that made me feel better is the taxi driver told me it was not the first time it had happened to him.

That day was so much fun. Drinking at pool. Remember the security guard who told us we couldn't bring our drinks past him? And we started apologizing and he's like HA GOT YOU FUCKERS, DRINK ALL YOU WANT!

[bigred]

My biggest regret of that day is being so messed up that I couldn't beat Gabe in Fifa and could barely play n+. Sigh. I hate losing.

We need another vegas at some point.

[bigred]

And then being driven back to the hotel by Gabe where I curled up in our luxury shower in the fetal position for 2 hours. BUT I REGRET NOTHING.

Good times.

[bigred]

Oh you mirrored sea
Your waves, they're haunting me
They're all I see
Oh let me be you mirrored sea
Your waves, they're haunting me
Oh mirrored sea leave me be


Love this song. Seeing Passion Pit this weekend at ACL. BTW, Austin, TX. Great place to live. Swiggidy, looking at you. Ohio is for nerds.

[bigred]

Swiggidy, we have a frisbee golf course thing here. For you hippies. Just saying.

[bigred]

Anyone seen Santigold live? She good? Disparate youth is such an amazing song.

[bigred]

My new fav nin song from their new album (kinda meh) is Various Methods of Escape. Suggest checking it out. Chill, good song.

[bigred]

Bikes should have interrupted me by now. What is going on with this forums.

[bigred]

Who said this? (not verbatim)

"If I keep body slamming dudes will I get on your reality tv show?"

[bigred]

If we have another ftr vegas, rilla has to come. That is a rule. Set in stone.

[bigred]

I’ve gotta let go
I’ve gotta get straight
Why’d you have to make it so hard?
Let me get away

[bigred]

Transgender by Crystal Castles. I saw them live last spring. What an amazing experience.

[bigred]

Drunk confession: One of my favorite spotify songs, Le onde by Ludovico Einaudi. Not just for walking alone in the rain!

[bigred]

Other confession: I still listen to this regularly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_oS8zsO2nU

[bigred]

Midgar still means so much. I love that storyline.

[bigred]

So this is post 17 in a row. High five?

[bigred]

I has a sleepy

[boost]

C-C-C-C-C-COMBOBREAKER.jpg

[a500lbgorilla]

If we have another ftr vegas, rilla has to come. That is a rule. Set in stone.

No objection here. Book it.

[swiggidy]

3:1 you won't take off your swim trunks and wave them over your head in the pool at the hard rock.

oh wait.

That's what you resort to when you're running bad.

That day was so much fun. Drinking at pool. Remember the security guard who told us we couldn't bring our drinks past him? And we started apologizing and he's like HA GOT YOU FUCKERS, DRINK ALL YOU WANT!

I don't really remember this, but it's probably not surprising.