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  1. #1501
    I am of the opinion that plants are people too, except they can't evade predators. It's more curel to eat lettuce than it is to put a lobster in boiling water. The lobster has more of a chance than the lettuce.

    I'd agree not to serve lobster at a dinner party she was invited to if she promised to return the favour by hosting a barbecue with just meat, bread, cheese and non-vegetable based sauces.

    Then I'd tell her she makes a shit cup of tea and refuse to drink it, instead going to the kettle and making myself one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Then I'd tell her she makes a shit cup of tea and refuse to drink it
    I'm not an expert on British culture, but isn't that treason?
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    Not at all. In fact, making a shit cup of tea is grounds for divorce.

    The pussy thing to do is put the shit cup of tea down and "forget" about it until it's too cold to drink. That's basically a polite way of saying "you make shit tea", while causing minimal butthurt. But I respect a person who is not afraid to offend when it comes to getting a proper cup of tea.

    Every fucker who ever made me tea knows not to put too much milk in. I will just say "thanks but no thanks" and make myself another.
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  4. #1504
    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...lex-jones.html

    Lots of news sources picking up this story. The coordination is concerning. Also seems odd how they go out of their way to say that this is not some kind of action against "fake news" or any kind of impugning of the accuracy of Jones' reporting. They all make vague references to some kind of hate-speech, or violence inducing speech. Yet no one actually describes what that was. Not even a paraphrased quote.
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    Not sure what you're doing. Took me literally <10s to find.

    https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/alex-j...-a-wall-video/
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  6. #1506
    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I'm not an expert on British culture, but isn't that treason?
    Refusing to drink tea, or making a shit cup of it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    Not sure what you're doing. Took me literally <10s to find.

    https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/alex-j...-a-wall-video/
    I already knew about that. It's cited in all the stories about his banning. I was looking for something more.

    That segment only appeared on one of the platforms from which he was banned. That doesn't explain the widespread coordination.

    Furthermore, that segment doesn't seem to me to violate any terms of service. He didn't threaten violence other than with some hand gesture that can be interpreted any of 1000 other ways. The words he used CLEARLY show that his rant was metaphorical. He specifies that he will be doing all these things "politically" multiple times. Where is the threat of violence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Refusing to drink tea, or making a shit cup of it?
    I was originally thinking the former when I posted it, but ong took it another way, and I dropped it.

    They take their tea seriously, is all I know about it. I presume that refusing tea is a personal affront to queen and country, regardless of the quality of said tea.
    They probably whack you with a billy club and tell you to be civilized or something for shit like that.

    Presumably, there would be some formal softening of the 'brewing a shit cup of tea' laws that came about during rationing when the entire nation was eating boiled shoes and rat balls, but they still had to have their tea. So telling someone they're brewing a shit cup of tea is probably just a formal statement precluding a full investigation into the tea quality by the national Tea Potability Board or something.

    They have a secretary of tea, right? No, no, it'd be a lord of tea, yeah? 'Cause parliament.

    I'd presume that if a husband said his wife brewed a shit cup of tea, that'd be grounds for divorce in his favor. However, refusing to drink the tea she made, regardless of quality is probably grounds for divorce in her favor.
  9. #1509
    So I shouldn't be worried about this InfoWars thing being a slippery slope huh.....

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...nds-on-it.html

    Infowars is the tip of a giant iceberg of hate and lies that uses sites like Facebook and YouTube to tear our nation apart. These companies must do more than take down one website. The survival of our democracy depends on it,
    Here's the problem with censoring "hate and lies"...

    Who defines "Hate and Lies"

    I can guarantee that it WON'T be who you want it to be
  10. #1510
    Making a shit cup of tea isn't treason... it's just a good enough reason to hate someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Making a shit cup of tea isn't treason... it's just a good enough reason to hate someone.
    How do you mess up tea? Heat up water, steep your leaves, serve with milk and/or sugar to the person's tastes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    How do you mess up tea?
    Too much milk, not brewing the tea bag for long enough, overbrewing, putting cold milk onto a teabag before any hot water goes in, not using hot enough water, using bad milk, using the wrong type of milk, putting the sugar in after the water has cooled a little too much, or using inferior quality teabags. I probably missed a ton of other ways to fuck up a cup of tea, it's definitely possible. Sometimes even I do it. I look at the finished product, pull a face, tip it down the sink, make another. It's rare but it happens.
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  13. #1513
    Tea is gross.

    coffee too for that matter

    all of it
  14. #1514
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    How do you mess up tea? Heat up water, steep your leaves, serve with milk and/or sugar to the person's tastes.
    So many ways.

    Also 5/1 on Ong making semi-regular shit cups of tea because so many of those things matter about 1%
  15. #1515
    I only make "shit" tea for people if I don't know them well enough to know how they like their tea. But I always ask, like... how much milk? That's a very important question that I am not asked enough when someone is making me tea for the first time.

    Actually I make shit tea if you like it really milky, because I just can't bring myself to put lots of milk in. No matter how much I try to put it, it's never enough. But fuck people who like really milky tea. These people don't deserve to breathe the same air as me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I was originally thinking the former when I posted it, but ong took it another way, and I dropped it.

    They take their tea seriously, is all I know about it. I presume that refusing tea is a personal affront to queen and country, regardless of the quality of said tea.
    They probably whack you with a billy club and tell you to be civilized or something for shit like that.

    Presumably, there would be some formal softening of the 'brewing a shit cup of tea' laws that came about during rationing when the entire nation was eating boiled shoes and rat balls, but they still had to have their tea. So telling someone they're brewing a shit cup of tea is probably just a formal statement precluding a full investigation into the tea quality by the national Tea Potability Board or something.

    They have a secretary of tea, right? No, no, it'd be a lord of tea, yeah? 'Cause parliament.

    I'd presume that if a husband said his wife brewed a shit cup of tea, that'd be grounds for divorce in his favor. However, refusing to drink the tea she made, regardless of quality is probably grounds for divorce in her favor.
    Oi mate, ya 'avin' a laugh a' the redcoats? Where'd ya get your "'avin' a laugh" loicense?
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    How much milk? That question has only a few possible answers, and none of them are an accurate measurement. If someone replied "25ml" to me I'd assume they were a sarcastic twat.

    a tiny bit - still dark, just enough milk to take the bitterness away
    not much - a bit more than above, enough to turn the colour a little lighter while keeping the tea strong
    normal - not too milky, but not too dark either, in the middle
    milky - normal with an extra splash
    really milky - ratio of around 1:3, for morons who don't like tea but do like warm milky water
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    how much milk? That's a very important question that I am not asked enough when someone is making me tea for the first time.
    When taking food orders, you mustn't forget to ask the important questions.

    I asked the cunt who brings the food for a Caesar Salad with steak tips.

    Cunt asked me what kind of dressing I would like.....on my caesar salad

    Dumb cunt forgot to ask how I wanted my tips cooked.

    WTF?
  19. #1519
    I would have to ask "what the fuck are steak tips"? When you politely inform me that they are chunks of actual steak (I googled), well even to me it's fairly obvious that the next question should be along the same lines as the question you'd ask when someone orders normal steak.

    I mean, it should be a reflex.
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    what the what?? They don't have steak-tips in britain? Or are they just called something gay instead?

    Actually, now that I'm thinking of it..."steak tips" sounds really gay.
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    I'm sure one look at him told her he takes his meat bloody-rare.
    In fact, he'd probably prefer raw meat at room temperature, 'cause cooked meat is for wussies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I'm sure one look at him told her he takes his meat bloody-rare.
    In fact, he'd probably prefer raw meat at room temperature, 'cause cooked meat is for wussies.
    Haha.

    Must be great fun going through life being pissed off all day every day. "What!?? Goddamn waitress forgot to ask me how i like my steak tips cooked???? Aaaaarrgggh!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    "What!?? Goddamn waitress forgot to ask me how i like my steak tips cooked???? Aaaaarrgggh!"
    You've obviously never had steak tips.
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    I think we just call them steak chunks? Steak bites? I dunno, maybe I'm just stupid and we have steak tips.
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  25. #1525
    http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/20...tcmp=obnetwork

    He groused about how the women often drink too much and cause a scene.

    "Half of them end up crying about something," he said.
    Bitchez is crazy
  26. #1526
    So they arrested that guy in florida who shot a dude over a parking space. He was originally released under Florida's "stand your ground law".

    There was an argument about a car parked in a handicapped space. When the driver came out, he rushed the guy arguing with his girlfriend, and shoved him to the ground. All he was doing was saying "you can't park here". And the driver decided "you can't tell my girlfriend what do do, so now I'm gonna hurt you".

    So he pushed the guy to the ground. Then the guy on the ground, fearing additional beatdown, pulls out a gun and shoots the assailant in the chest.

    If he shot a white guy. We wouldn't have a problem. But the guy was black, so apparently he should be allowed to shove and beat whoever he likes, for whatever reason he likes.

    This might sound familiar. It is. A few years ago, some neighborhood watch guy was following up on some suspicious activity. Teh suspicious character jumped the guy and started a fight. Neighborhood watch guy pulls out a gun and shoots the suspicious character.

    Same thing happened. Because the guy who got shot was black...the shooter got arrested for defending himself.

    Is it suspicious to anyone else that both shooting victims have the same lawyer.....and both times the shooter was arrested even though "stand your ground" clearly applies?
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    He shot a guy who had his hands up and was backing away. That's why this is a story. Not because of the negro-loving fake news media.

    For someone who is agressively insisting that he's not a racist retard, you sure say a lot of retarded racist shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    He shot a guy who had his hands up and was backing away.
    Objection. Assumes facts non in evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    For someone who is agressively insisting that he's not a racist retard, you sure say a lot of retarded racist shit.
    Rather than respect your intelligence and try to discuss this you in a way that leads us both to a factual conclusion.....I'm just gonna spell this out for your low-IQ brain.

    Benjamin Crump and Al Sharpton make millions of dollars convincing black people that they've been oppressed by white people. That is the entirety of their profession. They stir up controversy and make money. They don't give a fuck who got shot, why they got shot, or whether or not their hands were up when they got shot. They are unwaveringly committed to a single interpretation of events which just so happens to be the interpretation of events that gets them the most publicity and money. That's not a coincidence.

    There are 350 million people in America. If these incidents were really indicative of underlying racism throughout society, then it seems wildly unlikely that it would only ever be noticed by the same two guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Objection. Assumes facts non in evidence.
    Did you just have a stroke?

    You somehow manage to turn an incident where a white civilian shot and killed an unarmed black man who was clearly backing away, and got off without any charges into a case for racism against white people. Are you alright, buddy?
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    So even though there were no charges; the mere fact there are even people who would object to this being a completely justified use of deadly force, is evidence for organized racism against white people?
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    I heard the ACLU's only reason for existing is to convince people their rights are being infringed on (like you know when parents and children are separated at the border) despite the overwhelming evidence everything is hunky dory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    Did you just have a stroke?
    No. I'm just not deranged.

    You somehow manage to turn an incident where a white civilian shot and killed an unarmed black man who was clearly backing away,
    Clearly??? Where are you getting this? Why do you get to just make up your own facts. I watched the video a dozen times. I saw the guy take one step backwards after the guy was already in the process of pulling out his gun to fire. The whole thing took a split second.

    You're out of your gourd if you expect a guy who was just beaten to the ground, to have the presence of mind to be able to tell if his assailant is sufficiently deterred merely by the sight of a gun...within a split second. You seem to have this retarded racist idea that gun-toting white people are all reckless hillbillies that like to indiscriminately flap a trigger finger while yelling yeeeeehaaaw.

    In reality, the overwhelming massive majority of gun owners are responsible people that have been trained in gun safety protocols and understand them. If you were one of those people, you would know that a gun is not for intimidation. It's not to brandished. If you pull it out, it's because you are going to shoot somebody. If you pull the gun out, it's because you've already decided that your life is being threatened and you need to respond with force.

    That all happened before the black guy ever thought about taking a step backwards. If you expect a guy who was just hit by someone twice his size, and is on the ground, and is in panicked fear for his life, to then make a hair-splitting nuanced interpretation of a single step, then you're an ignorant douchebag.

    And even if he was backing away. How do we know he wasn't moving toward his car to get his own gun? If you're the one on the ground after being attacked...are you really gonna take that chance? He's attacked you...you've threatened him with a gun....now you're gonna just wait for his next move? That would be stupid. Bigtime stupid.

    I'll lay 50 to 1 right now, on any wager you wanna make that this guy gets off.

    a case for racism against white people. Are you alright, buddy?
    Are you alright? Because you seem to be conflating me with the alt-right hate machine that likes to scream about oppression against whites.

    I've never claimed that white people were a victim of anything here. Not a single word of that. Did you have a stroke? If not, then why do you think I'm making claims of anti-white racism?

    My claim is that any feeling of victimization by black people is completely erroneous and that it was artificially manufactured by opportunistic activists with a profit motive. I object to that as a person of intelligence and respect for the law. My whiteness is not offended in any way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    So even though there were no charges; the mere fact there are even people who would object to this being a completely justified use of deadly force, is evidence for organized racism against white people?
    WHO is making this claim????

    Shove your strawmen up your ass buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    I heard the ACLU's only reason for existing is to convince people their rights are being infringed on (like you know when parents and children are separated at the border) despite the overwhelming evidence everything is hunky dory.
    Subtract the parenthetical and the sarcastic tone...and this is a really good post.
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    You seem to have this retarded racist idea that gun-toting white people are all reckless hillbillies that like to indiscriminately flap a trigger finger while yelling yeeeeehaaaw.
    I would say this is highly accurate.



    How for one thing: if you carry, you don't get into fucking retarded arguments over parking spaces that are none of your business? This guy was looking for a fight, he got it, and he got his heroic fantasy play out.
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    Wait, wat? This video?



    Forget what colour these two guys are for a minute. Since when does getting pushed to the ground give you the right to kill someone?

    Edit: I mean what a fucking pussy. Picks a fight with a woman, then when someone bigger than him pushes him down, he goes all Rambo on the guy. Fuck anyone who thinks his actions are defensible.
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    Your assertion that being arrested is somehow a violation of anyone's rights is absurd.
    Especially when the person being arrested has just discharged a firearm in public.
    (Police harassment is a thing, but not as pertains to this story.)

    Being arrested doesn't mean you're guilty of anything. It means a police officer has probable cause to think that a criminal investigation is warranted.
    It is up to a judge and/or jury to decide if a law was broken, not the police.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    How for one thing: if you carry, you don't get into fucking retarded arguments over parking spaces that are none of your business? This guy was looking for a fight, he got it, and he got his heroic fantasy play out.
    I gotta know how you can be thousands of miles away from a person, never have met them before, yet can definitively interpret the motivations of split second actions caught on grainy camera footage. And you can do that by accurately inferring deep and detailed insight about their personal fantasies.

    Please tell me how you can read minds so well that you can conclude, definitively, that his advocating on behalf of the handicapped was all a ruse designed to distract us from his deep seated racist hero fantasies

    How'd you get so fucking smart bro?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Your assertion that being arrested is somehow a violation of anyone's rights is absurd......
    This is completely wrong. Totally ignorant of facts at hand.

    What you've just described there is NOT the law in Florida. The law in Florida grants a person the right to stand their ground. Being arrested for asserting that right IS a violation of rights.
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    Once he brandishes the weapon, the standing guy starts backing away.
    There's no ground to stand at that point.

    Shooting a person whom is backing away from you and not brandishing any weapon at all is fucking cold-blooded murder.
    If you can't see that, then wtf is wrong with you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Wait, wat? This video?
    yah that one. I mean, I don't even have to push 'play'. Just look at the freeze frame. The assailant is still standing over the guy. He's facing him. His hands are NOT up in the air.

    The gun is already out, aimed, and committed to fire.

    If this is a problem for that guy....he should have kept his fucking hands to himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    I know that because it's on record.
    Source?
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    I deleted it because I meant the parking dispute was on record. I could count on the fingers of one hand how many times I got into a dispute over a parking space if you chopped that hand off, beacuse it's zero. This is not something a sane person does. Certainly not when you conceal carry. Why would you go out of your way to seek confrontation - especially when you carry a weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    This is completely wrong. Totally ignorant of facts at hand.

    What you've just described there is NOT the law in Florida. The law in Florida grants a person the right to stand their ground. Being arrested for asserting that right IS a violation of rights.
    If you can't even understand that an arrest is not a conviction, then why did you even start a conversation about jurisprudence?

    EDIT: Florida police have every right to arrest you for suspicion of anything. They DO NOT get to be judge and jury and decide whether or not the stand your ground laws apply. That's other people's jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Once he brandishes the weapon, the standing guy starts backing away.
    There's no ground to stand at that point.

    Shooting a person whom is backing away from you and not brandishing any weapon at all is fucking cold-blooded murder.
    If you can't see that, then wtf is wrong with you?
    Fuck you in face if you think you can truly sit in judgement of this incident and condemn a man who was attacked for nothing more than advocating for the handicapped.

    The idea that the guy was backing away, AND THEN got shot is not definitively shown on the video. Not by a long shot.

    And you clearly have no fucking idea what you're talking about because you used the word "brandish". That's not a reasonable function for a firearm. Anyone who thinks it's ok "brandish" a firearm as a means of protection or safety is wholly retarded. If the gun comes out...it's killing someone.

    That decision was made. Fear was felt. Life was threatened. Gun was pulled out. The commitment to fire was made.

    AND THEN the assailant took a step back. He was already dead at that point.

    Expecting a panic stricken person to reverse course, from the ground, after being assaulted, while fearing for his life, in a fraction of a second, is crazy. That's not a reasonable expectation of human behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    EDIT: Florida police have every right to arrest you for suspicion of anything.
    No
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    If you can't even understand that an arrest is not a conviction,.
    Stop moving the goalpost. Your original statement was that "arrest does not equal a violation of rights". That's just wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    I deleted it because I meant the parking dispute was on record. I could count on the fingers of one hand how many times I got into a dispute over a parking space if you chopped that hand off, beacuse it's zero. This is not something a sane person does. Certainly not when you conceal carry. Why would you go out of your way to seek confrontation - especially when you carry a weapon.
    They weren't fighting over the parking space. That's a demagogue-ish attempt to misrepresent the motivation for the dispute.
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    What kind of a loser panics and fears for his life when someone shoves him to the ground? I guess the same kind who goes around picking fights with women over parking spaces.

    Also, interesting that the decisions to pull out the gun, aim it, and shoot to kill have no separation in your mind. Like once you decide to pull the gun you're committed to shooting whoever is in front of you. Fucking retarded lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Also, interesting that the decisions to pull out the gun, aim it, and shoot to kill have no separation in your mind. Like once you decide to pull the gun you're committed to shooting whoever is in front of you. Fucking retarded lol.
    Actually it's not retarded. Find me one gun safety expert that says it's retarded.

    What's retarded is pulling a gun out and not using it. That's retarded. Either keep it holstered, or shoot to kill. There is no middle option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    They weren't fighting over the parking space. That's a demagogue-ish attempt to misrepresent the motivation for the dispute.
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    All I'm gleaning from this retardedness is that you have no clue about the law, can't recognize profit-motivated demagoguery, are completely ignorant about gun safety, and have oral sex fantasies about Borat.
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    Try to fall down some stairs kid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Actually it's not retarded. Find me one gun safety expert that says it's retarded.

    What's retarded is pulling a gun out and not using it. That's retarded. Either keep it holstered, or shoot to kill. There is no middle option.
    They generally say you shouldn't brandish a gun if you don't intend to you use it. They don't say if the threat is backing away and clearly unarmed you still have to shoot him or you're a bad CCW owner. I guess they assume you don't need the obvious explained to you. But obviously they forget some people are retards who can't think for themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    if the threat is backing away and clearly unarmed
    Objection. Assumes facts not in evidence.

    The mere fact that you claim it was CLEAR that the man was unarmed shows how retarded you are.

    Can you give me the timestamp for the part of the video where the assailant is patted down and searched for weapons? I must have missed that part.
  59. #1559
    But let's assume for a minute the guy on the ground has no choice once he pulls the gun but to aim it and shoot the guy through the heart. Let's say there's no option for him, once he decides to draw his weapon, to stop and think about what he's actually doing and whether it's a proportionate response to the threat, how it will impact other people besides the person he kills, and how long he could go to jail for.

    The question then becomes does he have a right to kill someone for pushing him to the ground? The answer is still 'no, he's a fucking triggered snowflake pussy'.
  60. #1560
    @MMM and anyone else who wants to think rationally for two seconds...

    If you find this incident distasteful, fine. Your problem is not with the shooter. Your problem is with the "Stand your Ground" law that grants him wide latitude to subjectively decide when his life is danger. If that's your problem, then complain and act accordingly.

    If you want to bring about legislative change...there are ways to go about that. Prosecuting this guy won't help your cause.
  61. #1561
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Objection. Assumes facts not in evidence.

    The mere fact that you claim it was CLEAR that the man was unarmed shows how retarded you are.

    Can you give me the timestamp for the part of the video where the assailant is patted down and searched for weapons? I must have missed that part.

    You can't just assume everyone is armed and a threat to your life until you have proof otherwise. If that were true, you could just assume anyone walking down the street was a threat to you and thus you were justified in killing them.

    Show me the evidence that the victim WAS armed. His hands were empty and at his side. He was backing away, not reaching into his pocket or waistband. So, unless he had a James Bond weapon he could fire using his dick, he was no threat to that guy. None. Zero. Pussy shot an unarmed man.
  62. #1562
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    The question then becomes does he have a right to kill someone for pushing him to the ground? The answer is still 'no, he's a fucking triggered snowflake pussy'.
    See post 1558 that i just made. You're massively misinformed. He absolutely does have that right. Get that? Read it again. He has the right to decide if his life was in danger, and you don't get to sit in judgement of him just because you have the benefit of slow motion video replay.

    If you have a problem with that, then advocate for legislative change. Prosecuting this guy because he shot a black dude, and Al Sharpton cried enough, is flat out WRONG.
  63. #1563
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    You can't just assume everyone is armed and a threat to your life until you have proof otherwise
    You can, and you should.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    you could just assume anyone walking down the street was a threat to you
    That's a reasonable assumption.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    and thus you were justified in killing them.
    No, not until they attack you first.
  64. #1564
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Your problem is not with the shooter. Your problem is with the "Stand your Ground" law that grants him wide latitude to subjectively decide when his life is danger.
    The problem is if the shooter gets away with it, really. The problem is SYG is open to interpretation by idiots who think shooting someone for shoving you down to the ground is justifiable homicide.
  65. #1565
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    That's a reasonable assumption.


    No, not until they attack you first.
    They don't have to physically attack you, you only have to feel they are a threat to your life. So, suspicious guy walking down the street towards you, you gotta blow his head off. Better him than you.
  66. #1566
    So getting back to the original question...I guess everyone here is convinced that it's a totally normal coincidence that the victim here, and Trayvon Martin, had the same lawyer?
  67. #1567
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    See post 1558 that i just made. You're massively misinformed. He absolutely does have that right. Get that? Read it again. He has the right to decide if his life was in danger, and you don't get to sit in judgement of him just because you have the benefit of slow motion video replay.
    You're absolutely correct; he has the right to be a triggered snowflake pussy, and he was. Good law you got there.
  68. #1568
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    So getting back to the original question...I guess everyone here is convinced that it's a totally normal coincidence that the victim here, and Trayvon Martin, had the same lawyer?
    I'm guessing because no-one really sees that as the issue of most import here.

    Is it a coincidence that a lawyer works on two similar cases? No, it's normal. Next.
  69. #1569
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    The problem is if the shooter gets away with it, really. The problem is SYG is open to interpretation by idiots who think shooting someone for shoving you down to the ground is justifiable homicide.
    You're assuming that the shoving to the ground would have been the end of the altercation. You're assuming that the guy wouldn't have kept coming, and possible assaulted the guy further. You can't possibly know that. No one can know that because the gun was pulled before we could find out.

    You don't get to decide whether or not it was an acceptable risk to take the shoving and hope that nothing further happens. You don't get to decide how likely it was that further assault would have occurred.

    The law empowers the guy on the ground to make that call. If that bothers you, attack the law.
  70. #1570
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    They don't have to physically attack you, you only have to feel they are a threat to your life. So, suspicious guy walking down the street towards you, you gotta blow his head off. Better him than you.
    Demagoguery

    Really sad and pathetic demagoguery too. You can do better than this.
  71. #1571
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    You're assuming that the shoving to the ground would have been the end of the altercation. You're assuming that the guy wouldn't have kept coming, and possible assaulted the guy further. You can't possibly know that. No one can know that because the gun was pulled before we could find out.

    You don't get to decide whether or not it was an acceptable risk to take the shoving and hope that nothing further happens. You don't get to decide how likely it was that further assault would have occurred.

    The law empowers the guy on the ground to make that call. If that bothers you, attack the law.

    I just did attack the law. Maybe next time read the post you're responding to.
  72. #1572
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    I'm guessing because no-one really sees that as the issue of most import here.

    Is it a coincidence that a lawyer works on two similar cases? No, it's normal. Next.
    Hmm, Trayvon, Ferguson, this case....seems like every incident where the parties involved are of opposite race gets picked up and blown up into a national scandal by the same lawyer every time.

    And every single time, there's Al Sharpton soliciting for donations to his church.

    That's normal?

    Next?
  73. #1573
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    I just did attack the law..
    While enveloped in misinformed ignorance. WP
  74. #1574
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Hmm, Trayvon, Ferguson, this case....seems like every incident where the parties involved are of opposite race gets picked up and blown up into a national scandal by the same lawyer every time.

    And every single time, there's Al Sharpton soliciting for donations to his church.

    That's normal?

    Next?
    Ya, i don't care what colour the victim and shooter were, or who their lawyers are, or whether Fox News says their lawyers cheat on their wives. I just care that it's a retarded law. Next.
  75. #1575
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    While enveloped in misinformed ignorance. WP
    Seems to work for you.

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