01-14-2017 07:51 PM
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01-14-2017 08:07 PM
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So why does he do it then? And why doesn't he hack other countries outside the West? I've never seen a Russian or Chinese wikileak, have you? | |
01-14-2017 08:12 PM
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I don't think I'm following you. It's pretty much the only thing CNN's been covering for days. Also, it isn't at all difficult to prove a negative. It either happened or it didn't. As far as I know every intelligence agency in america is currently investigating it so until someone comes back as fake I have a hard time considering it so. | |
01-14-2017 09:50 PM
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The Director of National Intelligence said it was not a document that came from the intelligence community. Also BuzzFeedBen, when breaking the "story" also said "there is serious reason to doubt the allegations." Based on everything that has happened so far, the "story" is almost certainly fake, except it hasn't been "proven" fake since that's really hard to do. |
01-14-2017 10:08 PM
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Excellent, succinct rundown of the false allegations on Trump: |
Last edited by wufwugy; 01-14-2017 at 10:18 PM. | |
01-14-2017 10:14 PM
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This is some Oedipus Rex level irony. CNN et al. have been hammering on for over a month about all the fake news that originates from places like 4chan, only for 4chan to feed them enough rope that they hang themselves with their own fake news scandal. |
01-15-2017 11:19 AM
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Of course, the life of an ambassador is shit in comparison. Travelling the world, all expenses paid, having your kids' private education fees paid for by the govt, juicy pension, not having to worry about jail etc. | |
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01-15-2017 11:29 AM
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Well if this is the case, fair enough on your use of the word "hack". Although, it's still worth noting that there remains a distinction between an internal hack and a foreign hack. And it's not merely a question of where the hack came from... it's who's responsible. If I go to Russia and hack the British govt and release compromising material, well that's different to one of Putin's goons doing it. Unless I'm working for Putin, of course. But let's assume I'm doing it from Russia because I feel safer there, and that it's based purely on morality. In this case, Putin is not repsonsible, and has no onus on him to arrest me. | |
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01-15-2017 11:46 AM
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It has bugger all to do with his image, and everything to do with track record. I give Wikileaks a lot more credit today than I did a few years ago. | |
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01-15-2017 11:48 AM
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Also, you use the word "hack" here. Wikileaks doesn't hack. Wikileaks accepts leaks. Whether those leaks were from hacks is another issue, but wikileaks aren't the ones doing the hacking. | |
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01-15-2017 12:11 PM
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01-15-2017 12:19 PM
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01-15-2017 12:30 PM
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01-15-2017 12:39 PM
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A spy can pretend to be a whistleblower, that's my point. (And by 'spy' obviously I'm broadening the definition outside of simply 'passing information' to include other types of espionage). | |
01-15-2017 12:58 PM
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01-15-2017 01:00 PM
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https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archi...curacy-record/ | |
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01-15-2017 01:15 PM
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None of this really gets at the question of why Wikileaks does what it does though. What is their actual purpose- just to tattle on everyone? And who's paying for all this? Maybe they're all just super-idealists. Maybe they're up to something shady. I have no way of knowing. | |
01-15-2017 01:17 PM
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Don't mind me, just triggering haters |
01-15-2017 01:27 PM
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01-15-2017 01:36 PM
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Their goal seems to me to undermine corrupt government, to expose their immoral practises. Who's paying for it all? I was under the impression they took donations, and I am confident there would be no shortage in that regard. | |
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01-15-2017 01:42 PM
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looooooooolllllllllllllllll |
01-15-2017 01:44 PM
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01-15-2017 01:44 PM
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too true |
01-15-2017 01:52 PM
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Again, to what end? Just so everyone knows their gov'ts are corrupt? What else is new? | |
01-15-2017 02:07 PM
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01-15-2017 02:11 PM
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But if someone showed you the transaction, in black and white, with IP addresses to pinpoint the source of the theft, would you still say the bank employee might merely have an axe to grind? | |
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01-15-2017 02:21 PM
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There's other ways to look at these things is my point. What appears to be true is not always true. | |
01-15-2017 02:24 PM
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01-15-2017 07:39 PM
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You really don't need to tell me this. If you think I haven't questioned the sincerity of these guys, you're mistaken. | |
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01-15-2017 07:42 PM
#255
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Nicely dismissed. | |
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01-16-2017 04:23 AM
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I don't think that. You're confusing my questioning with dismissal and that's not what I've been saying. | |
01-16-2017 04:31 AM
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Do you not see the link between these two questions? | |
01-16-2017 09:46 AM
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01-16-2017 02:37 PM
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01-16-2017 02:44 PM
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Inappropriate. | |
01-16-2017 02:54 PM
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Indeed. |
01-16-2017 02:59 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38593513 |
01-16-2017 03:02 PM
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In b4 Ong moves to Finland. | |
01-16-2017 03:03 PM
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01-16-2017 03:06 PM
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01-16-2017 03:07 PM
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Oh wait this is the shitposting thread so I'll assume you being partly tongue in cheek |
01-16-2017 03:08 PM
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01-16-2017 03:09 PM
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01-16-2017 03:09 PM
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01-16-2017 03:09 PM
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Current systems < non-ridiculous basic income < no welfare |
01-16-2017 03:10 PM
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01-16-2017 03:10 PM
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01-16-2017 03:15 PM
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01-16-2017 05:17 PM
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01-17-2017 02:25 AM
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Clearly the amount of basic income everyone gets would be lower than the benefits people might get now, since it's paid to everyone. The point is that working would not cut your benefits as it does now, creating more incentive to find work. | |
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01-17-2017 08:44 AM
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01-17-2017 09:54 AM
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What I meant is that this basic income of £490 that they're giving is more or less the same as what I currently claim in total. And yes, you're right, if they had a similar system here, then it would greatly increase the chances of me getting some work, perhaps in a pub. | |
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01-17-2017 05:19 PM
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It's not? |
01-18-2017 12:31 AM
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Lets not get started on the meanings of similar and the same again. |
01-18-2017 03:53 AM
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01-18-2017 11:17 AM
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I've got steam left in that one if you wish to continue... | |
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01-18-2017 11:27 AM
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01-18-2017 12:13 PM
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It is still my present, so I can confirm that it is certainly longer than a nanosecond. It's at least the time between since we had that discussion and now. | |
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01-18-2017 10:31 PM
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Time is an illusion. | |
01-19-2017 07:18 PM
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I need this in my life |
01-19-2017 08:21 PM
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I like quitaly. Also Oui out. And finished. And Swedone. | |
01-19-2017 09:46 PM
#287
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I like Brexit. Happy memories. | |
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01-19-2017 09:56 PM
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01-19-2017 10:04 PM
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Only because it's an anagram of quality. | |
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01-19-2017 10:06 PM
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oh snap crackle pop i didnt see that |
01-19-2017 10:12 PM
#291
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How do you not immediately see that quality and quitaly are anagrams? Are you some kind of word retard? | |
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01-19-2017 10:34 PM
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01-20-2017 05:11 PM
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01-20-2017 05:45 PM
#294
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More, please. | |
01-20-2017 07:05 PM
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declaration of independence made me chuckle. |
01-21-2017 12:34 PM
#296
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literalol |
01-21-2017 01:02 PM
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In class yesterday sitting next to chick who was moaning about how bad a day she was having because it was inauguration day. Other things about this chick: |
01-21-2017 01:12 PM
#298
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More triggering! How dare he! |
01-21-2017 01:42 PM
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01-21-2017 01:44 PM
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So how many people went to celebrate Trump's grand inauguration? I heard it was the lowest turnout for quite a while. | |