The Official MMA thread. (spoilers!)

[Luke999]

Sorry homey, but you losing money on Jake. Upon more comprehensive review, G to the SP beats him everywhere at everything. Not only that but GSP is the most athletically gifted WW. Jake hasn't subbed anybody of worth lately, he won't even come close on GSP. The fact that GSP has evolved a ton while Jake is still the same says everything that needs to be said. Jake is entering the big leagues. This will probably be his last main event.

Machida will turn Handy's face into blueberry pie though

I know I said all that in my post, hence why it was like a £4 "fun" bet :P

[dthorne04]

seagal looks like a burnt up piece of shoe leather lurking in the background

[CoccoBill]

UFC Welterweight Champion Georges St. Pierre makes the trek to the Sport Science lab to see if he has what it takes to beat Jake Shields in the Octagon. St. Pierre showed off his stamina and punches to ESPN Sport Science's John Brenkus where he tested St. Pierre's power and speed.

- Stamina: When most fighters hit their ceiling (maximum), GSP is at 85% of his max
- Georges St. Pierre's punch registers at 2859 lbs of force
- Georges St. Pierre's kick registers at 3477 lbs of force
- Georges St. Pierre's punch/kick combo registers at 6000+ lbs of force in under 1 second
- Speed: Georges St. Pierre's takedown generates 2400 watts of power in 1.17 second (on par with Rashad Evans)
- Georges St. Pierre's superman punch moves at 15 feet/second (twice as fast as his normal punch)

To compare: Cain Velasquez's punch is 2230 lbs of force, Rampage Jackson's punch is 1800 lbs of force and Shogun Rua's kick is 2749 lbs of force.

Gl Jake.

[wufwugy]

Crazy how Aldo Hominick isn't getting love. That fight is amazing. I just hope that Bas was wrong about Aldo having the same shoulder injury he's got

[spoonitnow]

lol sport science is such a crock of shit

war gsp and couture imo

[wufwugy]

jake is a fucking retard and gsp fucking sucks

once, just once i wanna see somebody actually try to beat gsp. guarantee he gets obliterated the day that happe3ns

[Donachello]

machida kick was awesome. Hominick's head was fucking lol. and GSP vs Shields was epicly yawn inducing. Also, the wings I had from BWW were so tasty.

[spoonitnow]

in before jake couldn't take him down b/c he was greasing

[spoonitnow]

btw this is worth posting: "Update: the 50-43 they read during aldo/hominick was a mistake - it was actually 48-45"

[UG]

btw this is worth posting: "Update: the 50-43 they read during aldo/hominick was a mistake - it was actually 48-45"

I was wondering about that. My wife came down during the fifth round of that fight (when aldo was getting his ass beat). I told her that Aldo would easily win if he could just not get knocked out...She didn't understand because he was getting dominated...so I explained the scoring system, ten-point minimum, etc. Then they rattle off 50-43 for one of the scores and she's all like, "WTF, how could they give him that round, is this stuff fixed?" I was confused too, but told her not to worry as Aldo easily won that fight.

My wife, the ER nurse, was particularly impressed by the hematoma on Hominick's forehead.

[Lukie]

I was thinking that if that hematoma got hit just right, we might have witnessed the first-ever (I think) UFC casualty.

I'm not really sure how medically accurate that is, but it was past the bloody cool factor and into the tough to watch category.

[Penneywize]

fight wasn't vurry exciting

GSP underwhelming, but you have to figure he'll bounce back after this kind of sub-par performance, right?

on to britney?

[wufwugy]

GSP underwhelming, but you have to figure he'll bounce back after this kind of sub-par performance, right?

on to britney?

No

All his performances are the same. My man Carlos Condit will smash his ass, but not before GSPussy declines the fight

Maybe I was wrong all along. Maybe GSPussy was the real overrated wuss, and Silva is the true GOAT. No more lols have ever been had than Jake's dreadful standup lasting five rounds. Britney would make GSPussy look like a GSPussy. The man is not a fighter, but a point-scoring athlete. His time will come merely upon people catching onto his gameplan. Motherfucking Rory McDonald would beat him tonight. If Condit drills TDD he wins the fight 10/10

[Penneywize]

No

All his performances are the same. My man Carlos Condit will smash his ass, but not before GSPussy declines the fight

Maybe I was wrong all along. Maybe GSPussy was the real overrated wuss, and Silva is the true GOAT. No more lols have ever been had than Jake's dreadful standup lasting five rounds. Britney would make GSPussy look like a GSPussy. The man is not a fighter, but a point-scoring athlete. His time will come merely upon people catching onto his gameplan. Motherfucking Rory McDonald would beat him tonight. If Condit drills TDD he wins the fight 10/10

meh

while I respect pretty much everything you have to say on a wide variety of topics, wuf, I gotta say it seems your opinion on this particular individual seems to vary widely over a very short period of time

the only thing GSP's guilty of tonight is exposing a weaker stand up fighter; he fought the way he thought would give him the greatest chance of victory. and for this you go on calling him a pussy etc

so after the addition of one observation to the pile of evidence that asserts GSP's dominance in the WW division, you make a complete about-face, now saying he sucks and now, the next 'elite challenger' will absolutely win against him... which is made ever more strange given that this additional observation was actually one where he won handily over a very skilled and highly touted opponent?

[Penneywize]

let him fight britney, or at least move him up to MW and size him up against taller / heavier fighters etc and see what's up, no? has he not cleaned out the WW division yet

[BennyLaRue]

I was thinking that if that hematoma got hit just right, we might have witnessed the first-ever (I think) UFC casualty.

I'm not really sure how medically accurate that is, but it was past the bloody cool factor and into the tough to watch category.

Yeah, this, totally.

[wufwugy]

he won handily over a very skilled and highly touted opponent?

Except he didn't

Shields is a fucking moron. Complete fucking moron. He exposed GSP. Big time. Because of how fucking stupid he is

Jake should have spent zero time trying to throw down with GSP. ZERO. His striking is dreadful. He is a good fighter if he Chael's like fuck and pushes the takedown battle and clinch and all that shit. The fact that this terrible striker refused to fight correctly yet GSP still got beat up enough that he whined about stupid reasons he's not impressed with his own performance just like every performance he has lately, shows that GSP is not as good as it seems.

The Jake Shields that fought tonight loses to the top 20 WW. I thought for sure there was no way he would come in with such a fucking retarded gameplan. GSP's time is coming. Hardy couldn't stop a poodle from putting him on his back, Koscheck is a fucking retard who gave the fight up with a dreadful plan, and Shields repeated Kos. GSP hasn't fought an effective top five guy in years. Cred isn't all there is, style and gameplan is extremely important. Jake was a fucking turd out there with his god awful bullshit dumbfuck obviously stupid plan. If UFC Primetime was all about Jake going "durr imma stand wit him and try to ko him and not play to my strengths" then nobody would have watched the fucking fight because it would have been ldo that GSP smashes. But the fact that GSP didn't smash a shitty Shields shows how weak he really is.

Silva would turn him into a clusterfuck smorgasbord. GSP has not cleaned out the division because like I said, tonight's Rory would beat him, and Condit would lose a decision due to giving up at least three takedowns but it would involve Condit beating the tar off GSP's face in the mean time and the judges making another awful decision

Not to mention that Lorenzo will put Nick in there next with GSP and Georgie Poo better pray to the gods that Nick doesn't start stuffing his takedowns by round three because if Jake could even touch GSP on the face Nick will put a thrashing on Pretty Boy



Also, my analyses on MMA are somewhat disjointed because most of the time now I'm just winging it. Even with winging it I'm right most of the time, but I just don't put the effort into figuring things out like I used. So that's why you'll get some partial flaws. Keep in mind I was right in about 90% of what I said for this card. Also keep in mind that it's important to mold opinions to new information. Plus GSP is now my new heel. Fucking Frankie Edgar might even beat him. GSP showed us all that the last thing he's done is clean out the division. Fucking he fucking got stood with fucking Jake fucking Shields for fucking five fucking rounds. Fucking Benavidez would finish Shields in a kickboxing match (not really, but it's not far off)

[wufwugy]

Also, isn't Shields the new champ? You know according to the rules? They stopped Fedor because he couldn't see out of his eye, but not GSP? Or was it only after the fight was over and the microphone appeared that a little bit of swelling turned into Frenchie Leukemia of the Retina

[wufwugy]

Actually no GSP does need to move up to MW to fight Chael. Hero Sonnen could have one arm tied behind his back and Thiago Silva's syringe stuck in his shoulder yet still shove a real estate contract up GSPussy's ass

[wufwugy]

Another post for the only correct thing in the whole wide world: baby kicking

[Penneywize]

wuf you gotta at least acknowledge you're basing a shit ton on one somewhat lackluster outing. GSP fought cautiously and rode out a victory that was pretty much never in danger. I can't seriously understand how you put so much weight on one performance, he wasn't even really tested tonight. Anyhow, I guess I'm sounding more and more like a GSP nutcupper, but, jesus man. I suppose you're probably upset at Shields being a moran and not sticking to his game plan etc or even remotely trying to put GSP to the test, but seriously, he landed a few punches and now you reason:

- Jake Shields sucks at stand-up
- Jake Shields landed a few hard blows on GSP over the course of a 5-round fight

THEREFORE:

GSP SUCKS OMG LOL EVEN A FEATHERWEIGHT HAS BETTER STANDUP ROFLCOPTER

cmon, rite

[wufwugy]

Jake would be a big dog standing with like ten other WW for five rounds. Brokeback Hendo hit him with every single shot forcing Jake to go for the takedowns, Kampmann was lighting him up forcing Jake to go for the takedowns, yet GSP lets it stand for most of five rounds.

GSP is good, very good, but there are reasons he's champ right now and reasons he's gonna get beat when somebody finally doesn't let him dictate the fight. For whatever reasons, GSP was capable of exploiting holes in his opponents games. Either by him being better at their strength, them having a gaping hole, or them fighting like morons. But when GSP faces somebody who doesn't fall into those three categories, it's gonna be a different fight. I do believe that the Rory of tonight beats GSP and that if Condit employed an "aggro GSP" strategy he would win i.e. a strategy that involved excelling at wrestling defense yet going for the kill in both striking and takedowns.

The storyline of GSP's fights in the last several years has been: if they can't stuff his takedowns, he takes them down, if they can stuff his takedowns but he can outstrike them, he outstrikes them. And every single one of his opponents have let him dictate this plan. Put Condit in there with awesome wrestling and he'll take it to GSP so much that he'll wanna tap to strikes again. Rory will be better all around. Nick will scare him homey

However, I do think GSP could be a tiny favorite to win decisions against Condit and Nick, but if Rory continues his comeback from the Condit fight and beats somebody like Alves or Fitch like he did Nate, he will whoop GSP like daddy come home from the bar

[spoonitnow]

You've gotta beat the man to be the man.

Also I hate Nate Diaz. I kind of like Nick. What's up with that?

[Luke999]

Epic card, shit main event. As if shields outstruck gsp 97-92.

After tonight I really wanna see GSP vs Nick Diaz, I think he'd be more willing to go to the ground with Nick and wrestle fuck him, but if he didn't it would be fun to see Nick up in his face hitting him, GSP sure as hell seems to worry and be scared of getting hit.

[KoRnholio]

Seriously wtf

[wufwugy]

um yea i just tried watching the gsp/shields fight again but in full and without booze, and can't even get through it. shields has terrible standup and gsp isn't that much better. i probably have gsp as my #5 WW skill-wise right now. he'll lose the strap as soon as dana stops bribing his opponents to fight like morons

[Ravageur]

have you guys seen the vid of jake shields blatantly eye-gouging GSP? In slow-mo it's pretty fkn gross, and anyone that's seen it and is still bitching about GSP's performance is just a hater imo. It's amazing he kept on fighting.

YouTube - Sheilds poke GSP

[wufwugy]

I'm bitching about GSP's performance before the gouge even happened. The first round is not a top five WW first round for either guy. This is literally the only time I've ever spent any time analyzing GSP, and he's got some serious issues that are going to see him defeated as soon as his opposition catches up. Actually, this is the last fight he's winning because Nick Diaz is going to put a pounding on him. GSP can't hang standing, and takedowns will start getting stuffed in later rounds. In a seven round fight, Nick beats GSP like 97% of the time, so a five rounder is incredibly interesting

[kiwiMark]

"it's doesn't matter, you've got one eye. if you can see me you can see the punches"

I lol'd

[Penneywize]

cool add nick diaz to the list of WWs who beat GSP in a hypothetical, never-happen'd-in-the-UFC 7-round fight

wuf u come across as so butthurt it's not even funny man. get over it, it's one bad performance, you used to have so much respect for the dude.

[wufwugy]

cool add nick diaz to the list of WWs who beat GSP in a hypothetical, never-happen'd-in-the-UFC 7-round fight

wuf u come across as so butthurt it's not even funny man. get over it, it's one bad performance, you used to have so much respect for the dude.

I've stated before that MMA is partial drama for me. If I was a stupid redneck, I would love WWE. So what I do is I go out of my way to make very hard cases for my opinions. The opinions aren't illegitimate, but they are sometimes the extreme end of the case.

And as far as liking GSP, I've gone back and forth a lot. In some ways it's hard to not like him and in some ways he's better than almost anybody, but in other ways he's not. If I don't think somebody who is rated as one of the best truly is, I go the completely opposite direction and find any reason to hate on them. I'm the quintessential anti-bandwagoner. The only bandwagons I like for guys with a ton of nuthuggers are ones that I actually think are legit. Which right now is only Overeem. I believe he with obliterate every HW alive today, so I'm all over it, but if I find reason to believe it's not actually true, I will flip and become a hater because he'll still have tards slobbering on his nuts. It's exactly like what happened with Fedor. There was a time when he was on top yet not overrated, then a time when he was still on top yet crazy overrated. Not to mention that Overeem is actually terribly underrated today. He's only ranked like #8, yet analytically is the arguable #1

Look at it this way, Nick Diaz used to be my favorite fighter because he was extremely good yet terribly underrated. Then he stopped being my favorite after I began seeing how beatable he is and I hated that he nicktucked Mayhem. I'm a diehard fan inasmuch as I adore the sport and continually want to learn more about it, but a fairweather fan inasmuch as my bandwagons change and I like the drama

That said

Nick beats GSP because he has great TDD when he prepares for a wrestler, GSP won't even spend all day trying to get a TD anyways, and Georges won't be able to hang on the feet because reach + chin always wins and Nicks striking is simply better and GSP will not be able to not get pressured out of his comfort zone

Condit beats GSP by being just as good, but being a killer. GSP doesn't finish guys because he's afraid to sacrifice position and safety. Condit isn't, and after he stuffs some TDs and hits GSP harder than he wants to be hit, we have a new champ

Rory beats GSP by being a kid destined for future champ, he learns from his mistakes, improves very well, and is a pseudo-Bones inasmuch learning how to evolve more correctly and fluidly for MMA specifically instead of a certain art base or mentality

Fitch just might be the guy to edge out a decision in a rematch. His main problem would be using dumbshit gameplans like Shields and Kos did.


Frankly, GSP's wins of late are not as good as people think. He's got the Fedorisms going inasmuch as there's always a problem with his opponents. They either have easily exploitable holes or use terrible gameplans or even other things like being of poor size


And when I say things like GSPussy I'm being partially facetious and trying to have a good time. Hyperbole and razzing is fun when panties don't get in the way.

The only time I was butthurt was when Hobbie Brawler blind haymaker'd Melvin My Main Manhoef.

[Ravageur]

Sure, he's evolved into a more smart, take less risks fighter, as he himself will admit, but watch all 23 of his pro fights and i think it's hard to say he's not the greatest WW of all time. He's run bad with opponents who just tried to survive but I think he will eat Diaz alive on the feet and on the ground. Hopefully we shall see!

[Penneywize]

meh wuf I have to say I largely agree with you on your philosophy of which fighters to root for

I have always been the type to root for the underdog. When I was 8 years old, in the 1993 cup finals, I no-joke rooted for the LA Kings over my hometown (now-beloved) Canadiens - mainly because I just couldn't stand the hype and how nobody would ever shut the fuck up about em.

I think what it really boils down to is ego, in a sense. It's not worth supporting a given fighter if EVERYONE ELSE and their dog considers themselves professional nutcuppers of the guy. Better to root for lesser-knowns who are underrated or otherwise have immense potential - so that when they do become famous and beloved, you were the genius who picked them out of the litter before they were a 'somebody'. Even better if you are so well acquainted with that given fighter's strengths and overall game to the point where you are able to predict what many others would consider 'huge upsets' when he's put up against better known opposition.

Anyhow. The thing is, re GSP, is that he's a hometown boy done good. I can't root against the guy; he's put Montreal and Canada on the map in a sport mostly dominated by Americans and Brazillians. The greatest thing about him is that his personality is representative of many Canadians. He's always very respectful, doesn't talk shit; but when time comes, he always pulls out a victory. Not particularly flashy, not overly exciting, but he gets the job done.

So, my affinity for the guy is mainly based on his character traits and track record; it is difficult for me to size up an opponent in an unbiased way and actually decide whether or not GSP is a favourite... I just assume he is, because it seems to be the concensus of most MMA analysts that GSP's in his prime, strong in virtually every area, and usually puts on a clinic.

As for nick diaz, I think I've seen a few of his fights before (if you can suggest any that'd be great as well) but nothing about him ever really struck me as "yeah this is the guy who can take down GSP". But hey, I'm not exactly the person to be making these assertions, am I.

[Toadstool]

What I don't understand, is why someone would hate other fighters because of what other people think about them? I personally enjoy MMA because I find the fights entertaining. I always see people complaining about other people liking or disliking fighters and not really sure why it's such a big deal?

Regarding GSP, I think he is a great fighter, however I don't really think he's a "warrior" he's great at the game of MMA but he seems like he doesn't have what most of the great fighters have...I doubt he would have made it out of the first round vs Maynard, the mount of Bigfoot etc etc. He plays too close to GTO to make me a fan of his, I don't dislike him as a person but as a fighter I don't really look forward to his fights.

Any Nick Diaz fight is great, for a couple to watch - vs Daley, vs Gomi, and vs Shamrock are all awesome.

[wufwugy]

RE: Nick Diaz

According to the rules, he's very beatable by wrestlers, but that history is in three rounders, and his TDD has improved a ton. And he now has the best hands at WW. I do believe that Daley got robbed with an awful stoppage, but I think he was still going to lose that fight. I had him as a tiny favorite coming into it, but that was probably wrong, and I don't like his gameplan at all. If Nick can stuff takedowns, he's going to be the toughest nut to crack because for some reasons he just doesn't get stopped on his feet. He has some extremely weird things going for him like amazing chin + reach, and unmatchable endurance. He is a bit better than his brother, but I think I still might put Rory in as favorite vs Nick

But I think there is no question that Nick will be GSP's toughest fight to date. Nick will stuff some takedowns, will have a bigger gas tank in later rounds, and will hit GSP a lot in the face. You could put Nick in vs any MW and I think the same would be true. Nick would lose a lot of those, but the MWs would have a real hard time getting the job done

If this was UFC 1, Nick would beat every MW on the planet. What it boils down to is how well Nick converts those masterful skills of his into a five round fight/decision. If his wrestling has improved as much as his striking, he beats the entire UFC WW rosters, granted I don't think it has improved exactly that much, but still a lot

[Penneywize]

Meme generator is down, but:


WRITE LONG POST TO WUFWUGY

(pic of acne-ridden fat guy face)

GET IGNORED

[wufwugy]

I didn't ignore, just don't have much to add other than the pretty french gymnast gonna find himself on the wrong side of a 209 stomping

And I always root against the hometown. It's way too funny not to. People stuff their vaginas full of panties whenever athletes that use the same name as a place near where they were born are not hailed as greek gods

[wufwugy]

I have a feeling that Mosley is getting a little extra money on the side for him to not train well and give Pac the opportunity to KO him.

[spoonitnow]

lol nick diaz

gl with that

[wufwugy]

Yesssssssssssssssssss Honkey Kong is out of the fight. Junior vs the Shane Trane now. The rumors were right. I hope Einemo gets a good fight out of it. My guess is that this is all fake and Swock was never planning on fighting again. So happy. The man is a fucking moron, and the only thing I care to see from him is recruitment for the new Dutch space program dedicated to sending the first neanderthal cranium into orbit, known as "Project Uberknee"

[Penneywize]

Yesssssssssssssssssss Honkey Kong is out of the fight. Junior vs the Shane Trane now. The rumors were right. I hope Einemo gets a good fight out of it. My guess is that this is all fake and Swock was never planning on fighting again. So happy. The man is a fucking moron, and the only thing I care to see from him is recruitment for the new Dutch space program dedicated to sending the first neanderthal cranium into orbit, known as "Project Uberknee"

I have no idea what you're talking about. You use all kinds of really strange names to refer to obscure fighters. Anyhow, I gather that brock lesnar is out, and shane carwin is in v. dos santos? this seems good. why is lesnar out, is TUF already done airing btw?

[wufwugy]

Honkey Kong aka Swock Chestnar =

Shane Trane =

Uberknee =

What fun is MMA if you don't use retarded internet nicks?

[wufwugy]

Also if the Shane Trane ever gasses again he will forever be known as Lactimus Prime or perhaps something like Shane Canwin/Carlose. There really is no point to MMA other than the hilarious nicks

[Luco]

Shane train needs a few red bulls between rounds or he's doomed

[wufwugy]

On Fedor vs Hendo: excellent fucking fight. Hendo has more fight knowledge, but Fedor should be a slight favorite. This is because Hendo will spend too much time trying to get a KO. While he's good at it and very dangerous on the feet for anybody, Fedor is underrated on his feet and IMO is the favorite in a LHW kickboxing match vs everybody except Bones

[Ravageur]

Hrm - i think Fedor should still be a pretty huge favourite but that is definitely a fight I will tune in for. I try to hate you Wufwugy for your anti-GSP posts, but your cig puts me into a trance. Every time that ace shoots out at me and I lose my concentration.

I concede to you on all points.

[wufwugy]

LOL a couple weeks ago I was gonna make a "wufwugy coaches GSP" post where I outline what he does wrong and how to fix it

It would focus on how a chunk of his problems come out of him playing a sort of polar game that's either close or far. This is seen in how his performances always seem to be some form of "jab and jog" or "takedown and smother". I believe if he focused on muay thai clinch, greco clinch, highly offensive submissions and scrambling from those positions, we would see a different GSP. He would be a GSP who is in a much better position to take chances because he would be expert at controlling the hard to control and rebounding when he loses position

Think about it, it may actually be true. He doesn't sacrifice position for anything, but really, fighters who excel in those areas I mentioned don't have to play a "don't sacrifice position" game because excelling in those areas by default gives them the tools to control or rebound from hairy positions.

But I won't make that post because who am I to question one of the greatest MMArtists to date? I could so easily be foolishly wrong about all that anyways

[wufwugy]

Ripples that they're trying to make GSP/Diaz TUF. Words cannot describe how much trouble Georgie gonna be in when he realizes he can't stop getting hit in the face, can't find the takedowns, and can't do a triple delux somersault pole vault outta there

[Penneywize]

enough GSP TUFs imo

[wufwugy]

Agreed. Canada is not ready for a real time gangster beatdown straight out of the 209

[wufwugy]

Oh shit forgot Pudz is fighting tomorrow. Time to war the greatest can in all the world, James Thompson

Fight is hard to pick because it's a joke. I suspect it's gonna be a work for Pudz, but if it's not then JT might have the edge since Pudz is literally one of the worst fighters alive. It's not possible for him to not gas or to use non-barf technique. On the flip side, nobody can steal defeat from the jaws of, well, defeat like my man James Thompson. I love him because he's hilarious and brings it no matter what, but picking him can never be too smart

If it's not a work and if JT had a pimp camp and his mind straight, then he wins. You never know with him though. He doesn't have to be too much of a step down from Timmeh

[spoonitnow]

Diaz has nothing for GSP.

[wufwugy]

Inb4 Georgie pulls out of the fight because he 'as a injury

[Penneywize]

Inb4 Georgie pulls out of the fight because he 'as a injury

don't make fun of is accent you jerk!!!!

[spoonitnow]

lol pud

more like thud

[wufwugy]

For all that muscle, he's weak like girl. JT has never not been KO'd by a gust of wind, yet Pudz couldn't drop him with a haymaker to a protruding jaw

[Donachello]

Georges St. Pierre will defend his UFC welterweight title against Strikeforce champion Nick Diaz on Oct. 29, according to Dana White.

The UFC president made the announcement Wednesday on his Twitter account.

"You guys wanted it! You got it," White said. "GSP vs. Diaz Oct. 29, UFC 137 at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas."

[wufwugy]

Georges St. Pierre will defend his UFC welterweight title against Strikeforce champion Nick Diaz

lol no he wont

[wufwugy]

Imma say some stuff now

Hate the Jesus Jones/Rampage fight. Hampage is old time and will never again beat a new dog. Hamill was a goddamn gimme that Dana made just so Rampage would get the shot. Hamill has never and will never truly deserve a main event. Jesus Jones is going to obliterate Rampage.

The only fights for Jesus Jones that matter at LHW are Roger Gracie, Hendo, and Machida. Machida loses, but probably not by a lot, and it's a very exciting style clash. His KO of Randy is the greatest ever and he should be given the shot coming off that

Hendo would be great because nobody out-clinches him. He could actually beat Jesus Jones by merit of being so fucking solid

Gracie is a great fight because the grappling would just be so cool. He too would lose because Bones' base, strength, and defense would be too much, but man the prospect of Roger running a BJJ clinic is too exciting.

Rashad is actually a super contentious fight for Bones, but I find zero entertainment from him other than the rashaddance obv

YTMND - Rashad dance

On further consideration about GSP vs Nick, GSP will win via wall install. This is probably the only truly smart way to beat Nick. He's gonna keep him on the cage enough to get a Cecil Peoples nod. In a real fight, GSP exists the Octagon wondering why his spinning triple delux didn't stop him from getting TKO'd

[wufwugy]

So even though I love the Shane Trane, I gotta admit he's gonna get jacked up by Junior. He's too old, too green (yes too green), too slow, and now too small and weak to win by smother. Junior will simply out-scramble and out-box him.

Have a feeling Florian will lose again, as he's too Jewish to beat a mean Brazilian

Saddens me, but Maia will also lose. Just an awful fucking match up for him. He needs to go balls to the wall in training to be like a mega BJJ Chael Sonnen or something, like I think Roger is kinda doing, but he's not. He's gonna have to stand too much with Munoz, and will get too many takedowns stuffed, and won't get a sub

[wufwugy]

Finally, Cain vs Junior. Biggest HW fight in history. Even Overeem vs Werdum isn't as big, but that's freaking enormous too.

Cain's gonna win. Junior is disgusting, but Cain is less stubborn and thus more rounded and will be able to just slightly edge out Junior. JDS makes a fatal mistake in making his game revolve entirely around boxing and TDD/scrambling. He is right in that those should be his bread and butter, but he will eventually lose due to his opponents being able to prepare more correctly. Cain is basically Junior kryptonite in this regard.

But really, Cain vs Junior shouldn't even happen. The real fights that should happen are Junior vs Kharitonov and Overeem vs Cain. Stylistically, those are the best HW fights available

[wufwugy]

And I'm very disappointed in Einemo. Apparently all the time he's been training with Overeem has been BJJ for the benefit of Reem because Olav couldn't defend a clinch knee to save his life. I don't know why fighters do what he does. He shouldn't be spending too much time on his standup at this stage. He should be drilling the fuck out of his wrestling and keeping his BJJ as sharp as ever. Only after he dominates in what he's good at should he starting focus on truly rounding his game

I just hope to god that's what Roger Gracie is doing. It looks like that's what he's doing. He's better than Maia IMO, but I'm gonna be sickened if Roger/Mo is a repeat of Munoz stuffing BJJ takedowns. These jiujitsu guys need to realize that they have to go balls to the wall turning themselves into takedown monsters. Then they become like Chael Sonnen except way better on the ground. I think we've seen both Maia and Jacare lose a little bit in their BJJ too since they've spent so much time training stand up. I mean, they have to train it, but fucking Jacare struck with Kennedy for five fucking rounds. His striking should never be to the point where he thinks that's a good idea

[wufwugy]

MMA fandom has reached a new height of retardation. Only these idiots could turn a not gassed, not damaged, extremely efficiently executed striking and wrestling fighter into a can just because he couldn't KO a playboy who refused to engage by slapping his opponents forehead then flopping on his back

I've been wrong about Overeem all this time. I said he was underrated, but he's not. Apparently he's the most overrated fighter on the planet since even his most ardent of haters expected him to be so good he's superman. They watch him perform incredibly well, but because they know nothing about this sport, they interpret it like he's garbage

[wufwugy]

loling so hard at this





In other news, Condit is the WW GOAT. Seriously. GSP couldn't finish a bag of ketchup chips, but Condit's last three fights are among three of the most devastating finishes in the entire division's history

All Nick and Georgie gonna do is slap over who gets to keep the NBK's belt warm

[wufwugy]

[BankItDrew]

his first pro fight that happened just recently:

Kimbo Slice's 17-Second KO In Boxing Debut - ESPN Video - ESPN

[Hawk]

Lesnar is in some deep shit! I can't wait!
UFC: Brock Lesnar vs. Alistair Overeem set for Dec. 30 - latimes.com

[wufwugy]

damn, son

[wufwugy]

i thought they were gonna do overeem/mir, but this is much better

[bjsaust]

Article says 5 rounds but also makes it clear its non-title (not even strikeforce title). I assume article is wrong and it'll be 3 rounds?

Doubt it'll matter, I don't think Brock's been beyond 2 win or lose has he?

[wufwugy]

Pretty sure they're doing some choice non-title five rounders

[bjsaust]

Oh nice. I've seen a few 3 rounders recently that I really wished went longer. People spend 2 rounds 'tiring' an opponent and run out of time.

[wufwugy]

Agreed, I hate three rounders

[d0zer]

will suck dick for stream of tonight's ufc

[wufwugy]

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