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  1. #301
    luls I saw that vid in a search but it was short so I figured it wasn't the fight
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    Needs to get those big ass hands of his up.
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    Work imo
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    lol how do you fight that? That dude is beating the dreams out of that kid!
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  6. #306
    Just realised some fighters wear trainers, would tilt me if somebody wore trainers kept standing on my feet or w/e
  7. #307
    where can i watch a stream of the fight tn???
  8. #308
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    where can i watch a stream of the fight tn???
    i think this'll work http://azsportz.blogspot.com/
  9. #309
    who stops BJ Penn? seriously?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dthorne04
    who stops BJ Penn? seriously?
  11. #311
    meh i meant @ 155
  12. #312
    110 is going to be siiiiiiiiiiiiick! Also, did anyone else see Mariusz Pudzianowski fight? The dude is literally a steam roller. O_O
    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

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    Dave Doyle tried to get the scoop about a potential UFC-WEC merger during a recent Question and Answer session with UFC President Dana White, but instead received this,

    DD: Would the WEC fighters lose something if you moved them from the smaller WEC cage to the bigger UFC Octagon?

    DW: Actually, we’ve been talking about making the Octagon smaller. We’re considering making it smaller. [UFC matchmaker] Joe Silva wants it. I think he wants to turn the thing into a [expletive] bathtub. Have them fight in a little tollbooth.
    If the ring becomes smaller, 16-1 records will less frequent than they are now. Title holders will have a harder time maintaining their championships. Decreasing the intellect requirements and increasing the aggression leads to a higher variance in results.

    Makes for a more entertainment though.
  14. #314
    and that's all they care about
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    thank you jebus!
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    Holy shit Aoki fucking destroyed Hirota's arm last night. Also Minowa (aka the baddest motherfucker on the planet with a DBZ haircut) beat Sokoudjou.
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    Aoki was sick. Really looking forward to him fighting Melendez

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  21. #321
    pretty sure i could take him

  22. #322
    classy.
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    I was impressed when Overeem crushed Badr Hari with K-1 rules last NYE. He'll be another in line to get crushed by Fedor and I doubt he'll do much else in MMA though.

    Aoki has a lot of pride in being the Dream champion. From what happened building up to the fight I can understand what he did what he did. As far as if he should have done it or whatever, I don't really have an opinion.
  24. #324
    Not sure if anybody's been following this, but it's some pretty awesome MMA internet drama

    Scroll down to read Sean McCorkle's post

    http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma....1585238&page=9

    Cliffnotes: Sean McCorkle is a badass

    Tiny Norton is a fatass dicktuck who got his ass beat by McCorkle but won't stop calling him out. He recently pulled out of a scheduled match for made up pussy reasons, has begun trolling the board with accusations that McCorkle is ducking him, and has the apparent IQ of a sandwich

    Hilarity ensues. Lot of story invovled, but the best part is basically McCorkle's smack down ownage on that page
  25. #325
    Lashley will destroy the clown

    Herschel looks amazing, probably similar favorite like Pudz was over Najman

    Robbie Brawler might die

    Pulling for Marloes, but no way she doesn't get smashed by Cyborg Mantos

    Diaz/Zaro really only tough fight to call. I think Zaro is being underrated, and a lot depends on how capable Diaz is of taking it to the ground (or if he even wants to) and how good Zaro's striking really is. At first I thought the line on Zaro was fantastic, but not entirely sure now. Rooting for him though. Love this HL and hoping for more

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4Exgbf-8W0
  26. #326
    FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU Manhoef! Still wins this 80% of the time. Apparently, MMA is still strategically underdeveloped enough that finishes often come upon super specific holes. Like Mir vs Kongo, Marquardt vs Maia. Fucking Melvin. Maybe when he drops his hands its because his ground game sucks, and it looked like he simply just misjudged Brawler's range.

    Mantos needs to lose. A chick that looks like Mark Coleman as the face of women's MMA will not go over well in mainstream. If Marloes did as much tren as Mantos she wins that fight
  27. #327
    wow coleman really looked his age, nothing to offer.
    lol @ tito at the end.
  28. #328
    You just got knocked the fuck out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke999 View Post
    Just realised some fighters wear trainers, would tilt me if somebody wore trainers kept standing on my feet or w/e
    Honestly, you don't notice it. Getting hit doesn't even hurt when you're in the ring. I've fought plenty of guys who were wearing boxing shoes when I'm barefoot and it never bothered me at all.
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  30. #330
    bump!
    ps Velasquesz knockout was sick, the guy seems like a right beast
  31. #331
    Melendez gonna win. Can't sub Cesar Gracie guys, and Aoki is a teensy bit overrated while Melendez is underrated.

    Poor Shields getting fed to Hendo. Hard to root against Hendo, and don't really want to, but Jake is underrated and it would be mildy interesting to see him get the W. Won't matter though since Jacare isn't losing for a very long time. Eventually the MW superfight people will be wanting is Jacare/Andy, but that won't happen since they train together

    Mo gonna beat Mousasi and fanbois will cry. Mous is like Fedor: great, well-rounded, and finds a way to win. But also like Fedor, a bunch of his wins come after exploiting a weakness. Jacare upkick was flukey, KOing Babalu on feet isn't the toughest thing in the world, and if you can outlast Soko you win in latter rounds. New MMA talent are underrated because fans don't understand talent pools and that the level of up and coming talent in MMA exceeds that from previous years. Mo gonna come in very dangerous and talented

    M1 has been confirmed to be ducking Smashereem. They should too, since their investment relies on Fedor remaining undefeated. Expect him to take only stylistically safe fights even if it completely contradicts their rhetoric. Hopefully, Uber/Barnett happens in Dream 13 so when M1 clamors for a Barnett fight after Werdum, they look silly with Barnett coming off a loss to the Uberknee. From an analytical standpoint, Uber is arguably the current #1 HW, but don't tell that to people who only care about false dichotomies and W/L record

    Won't be surprised when Andrea Arlolski comes in against Big Foot with new awesome fervor. Hopefully, Rogers doesn't get Murdereem'd too badly that he can't provide Arlolski with the chance to actually show up to their fight this time.

    Bisping got clowned by Wand. 10-8 final round, arguable 10-8 second round.

    Hardy better smash GSP. Unlikely, but if he's learned his 10th Planet shit then getting taken down isn't as big a deal as it usually would be.

    Soto schooled the fuck out of Joe. Loved his use of rubber guard. I guess fighters are beginning to realize that a solid top control game in MMA where GnP is allowed is not beaten by an unaggressive non-controlling guard

    Expect Machida to not make the same preparation mistakes and have the same problems as before (like broken hand). We could very likely see him shutdown Shogun's entire game this time instead of just the takedown attempts and mainly the head strike battle. Part of me wants Shogun to win, but given the massive underrating Machida gave him the first time around, I don't think that's likely.

    Marquardt was obviously overrated. He exploits a hole in the stand up game of a grappler and somehow that makes him the guy to dethrone Andy. Chael isn't any better though. Maia is a threat to Andy if he focuses entirely on super aggressive and dynamic grappling. Plz to be heal soon Vitor. Andy/Vitor was supposed to be the fight of the year

    I want few things more than Honkey Kong getting smashed, and that smashing coming from Supermir would be the greatest source. I became a Mir fan when he realized that he's gotta get on the tren if he wants to compete with somebody who can beat him simply by grabbing and twisting.

    Tough for me to call the Carwin fight though because he's had so much training time since his last fight, and serious holes that somebody with his level of skill could plug with that training. But as always, Dana and Joe have the inside info, and their job is to make money off of building talent, and they were clearly feeding Carwin to Honkey Kong. Mir knows how to sell a fucking fight, and Brock/Mir 3 would be chang chang so expect Dana and Joe to have set Mir/Carwin up because they think Mir's gonna win.

    Wouldn't be surprised if Cain doesn't fight again until title. Dana really wants that Mexican audience. Can't see him making Cain vs JDS if Junior beats Zaga, but maybe if he thinks Cain has the advantage.

    I really really wanna see Nick Diaz vs GSP

    Mitrione/Simba is the easiest fight in history of fights to call.

    Can't wait for Duffee to get back, and for McCorkle to get down to HW.

    Crocop getting fed to Barry. You can tell because Barry is talented, entertaining, and appears like he could sell a big fight well, and Dana would not feed him to CC in order to build CC. Dana would obviously love a CC run, but probably thinks that ain't gonna happen again. I remain skeptical. I don't think CC has lost heart or talent, what he's lost is easy opponents and his ability to be ridiculously one-dimensional and still win. He appears to have made some important changes to his camp, but still not likely nearly what it really needs to be. If CC announced today that he was moving to the States to train fulltime with AKA or Cesar Gracie or another well-rounded camp, I would expect him to become very threatening in the future.

    Vera is being fed to Bones. Country is underrated and gonna beat up Scraper. Manhoef/Cung Le would be the greatest fight of all time; not because it would be competitive, but because Manhoef would annihilate Jackie Chan. Hobbie Brawler luckboxing hurt me tremendously. Manhoef needs to get a fucking ground game so he needs make no adjustments to his striking.

    I don't understand the Walker hate. He's super cool and looked amazing for 3 months of training. I look forward to watching him fight when he's more developed. He'll be fighting Fedor eventually anyways. M1 will probably even duck Lashley if he shows sub defense. Skill-wise, Fedor is probably still the GOAT, but with the knew breed of HW which makes him essentially a WW fighting at LHW will be too much for him if he ever fights one (doubt he will). Even guys that aren't way way bigger than him like JDS and Cain look to have talent beyond the best that Fedor's beaten (besides possibly Arlolski)
  32. #332


    Ubereem in final form = what the mayan's predicted would end the world in 2012
    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

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  33. #333
    hahah cybereeem. yessssssss

    My dream is for Colossareem to demolish all takers in SF and Dream, sign with UFC, win his instant title shot then clean out the entire division

    And when there appears to be nobody for GOATereem to face, Zuffa signs Pudz. They fight goes something like:

    Pudz Leg Kick of Doom countered by Uberknee countered by Pudz flying bear hug countered by the Ubertine becoming the first fight to end in double submission
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  35. #335
    Looking forward to GSP v Hardy though I think Hardy is dominated in all areas. Carwin v Mir will be interesting but Mir seems pretty damn motivated and working super hard ever since his Lesnar loss.

    112 Card is looking super super sick.
  36. #336
    Bones is a monster. Great card last night actually with all 3 of the main fights ending in KO or TKO. The Sakara fight was a little underwhelming but was good while it lasted. Super stoked for the Spring and Summer cards!

    PS. Pudz vs. Tim Sylvia might be hilarious or freakin amazing, definitely keeping my eye on that one.
    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

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  37. #337
    my god why is my mma analysis always correct (i know, right?)

    took me quite a while to get off the pretty boy fedor emeliaducko wagon tho, but that type of thing happens


    in other news, sounds legit, and if true, i hope pudz takes a huge fight and his face gets smashed into little itty bits

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  38. #338
    kongo is a clown and needs to get dropped for cowering at the thought at striking with somebody he outstrikes all day only to bend at the waist for zombie takedowns

    buentello loves tapping due to body strikes from big black guys

    dont like bones, not entirely sure why, probably has to do with liking him would make me a fan of too many black guys, and besides, lhw only has room for one blaxplosive rising star (king mo)

    only person in all mma who stands with and beats jds on the feet is ubereem, and that's only due to full clinch rules. take out the clinch and uber will be too big to hang with jds' speed. jds is the real ufc hw titleholder imo. brazilians gotta dominate the entire division to even be considered for title shot, it seems. give him randy's tdd and he makes brock look like a nancy
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  39. #339
    mousasi light sparring with reporter

    YouTube - Gegard Mousasi vs. King Mo (behind the scenes training)

    im seriously torn on his fight with mo. im jumping on the king mo wagon pretty hard, but mousasi's super cool and it's impossible to want to root against him

    i think part of why i'm probably pulling for mo is i see him going to ufc whereas mousasi has made it sound like he wont. and the problem arises if mous keeps winning outside of ufc there will be literally nobody worth looking forward to him to fight unless he moves up to hw, and i dont think moving to hw would be a good decision since he'll be even smaller than fedor
  40. #340
    that stand up in the 2nd round of the Fitch fight was so fucking horrible. NJ fans are idiots.
  41. #341
    Carwin dropped some bombs then. I was hoping Mir would survive for a longer fight but lol at the late stoppage. Dana fake smile, could tell he wanted a Mir win to sell the whole "revenge" storyline
  42. #342
    lol at Hardys arms, that is all.
  43. #343
    Quote Originally Posted by Luke999 View Post
    lol at Hardys arms, that is all.
    ^this

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    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

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    Damn the public is so unforgiving. Can't believe people are giving GSP shit (both on the internet and in the post-fight press conference where there was all sorts of talk of how GSP is turing into the Floyd Mayweather of MMA wtf?). While I agreed this wasn't his best performance, he still almost tore Hardy's arm off twice and Hardy was no tomato can.

    It must be tough when dominating your opponent for 25 mins but not finishing is a huge letdown to your fans. It seems like it'll be tough to make people happy unless he's fighting Anderson Silva who i think will dwarf him.

    Anyway a good night of fights for sure, Carwin is a scary man and him and Lesnar will be two trucks playing chicken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravageur View Post
    Damn the public is so unforgiving. Can't believe people are giving GSP shit (both on the internet and in the post-fight press conference where there was all sorts of talk of how GSP is turing into the Floyd Mayweather of MMA wtf?). While I agreed this wasn't his best performance, he still almost tore Hardy's arm off twice and Hardy was no tomato can.

    It must be tough when dominating your opponent for 25 mins but not finishing is a huge letdown to your fans. It seems like it'll be tough to make people happy unless he's fighting Anderson Silva who i think will dwarf him.

    Anyway a good night of fights for sure, Carwin is a scary man and him and Lesnar will be two trucks playing chicken.
    Corwin or wtv his name is, is siiiiick.

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  47. #347
    i need to stop betting on the ufc when i watch it, i clearly don't know enough and usually just pick whoever comes out second !
  48. #348
    wooooooooo cant wait for my boi fat country fighting tonight

    gmmbb, curious what bets you've made



  49. #349
    yesssssssssssssssss war kung fu fightin fattttttttt country

  50. #350
    gads i wish i could stay up tonite to watch the k1 gp. those things are better than most mma cards.

    im sure colossareem will get by the first round. just in time to smash assclown buck rodgers in may. fortunately, the new rule eliminating clinch strikes isnt in effect yet. im sure it will be by the time hari fights semmy though
  51. #351
    crap i cant wait for the duffman to fight again

  52. #352


    with the correct gameplan, smashereem is the mma hw goat
  53. #353
    I would absolutely love to see Maia win by KO, Frankie win by sub, and Renzo win by takedown to GnP
  54. #354
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I would absolutely love to see Maia win by KO, Frankie win by sub, and Renzo win by takedown to GnP
    lol at the penn fight.

    i dont kno why silva gets so animated for someone to attack him. if he's so good maybe he should punch instead of counterpunch. someone please explain to me why his ability to dance around makes him the greatest ever. i'm sure he could KMaiaTFO if he would just attack. just do that.
  55. #355
    wow silva is an epic pussy. maia is a fighter.
  56. #356
    Dear Anderson Silva,

    Go to K1, get your ass beat; go to Strikeforce or Dream, get smashed by Manhoef; go to LHW, get clowned by Shogun; take that fight with Vitor, take a nap

    Silva is a fucking joke. How good is he really? Nobody knows, and now who the fuck cares
  57. #357
    Quote Originally Posted by vqc View Post
    wow silva is an epic pussy. maia is a fighter.
    As far as I'm concerned, Demian deserved the decision. Yeah he got tagged and beat up more, much more, but prancing around like Kalib Starnes auditioning for Dancing With The Stars is enough for me to give the W to the other guy just out of principle
  58. #358
    According to Ariel, Dana threw down the belt and left in the 4th.

    I hope to god that Dana cuts Silva. That would be so unprecedented, yet so perfect. Silva clearly doesn't wanna be a fucking fighter, huh Dana. Drop his ass so he has to go to Japan and get his ass served on a buffet line of strikers who wont take his shit

    But even that probably wouldn't work. They'd hafta get Usain Bolt to chase him down I'm sure
  59. #359
    where can i watch the fiiiiights?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    As far as I'm concerned, Demian deserved the decision. Yeah he got tagged and beat up more, much more, but prancing around like Kalib Starnes auditioning for Dancing With The Stars is enough for me to give the W to the other guy just out of principle
    i dont kno why silva apologizes after every fight. he always does the same thing.

    i wouldn't lose a fight to silva on the street. while he stood 10 feet away taunting me, i would just turn around and walk to my car.
  61. #361
    the fights will be up on here shortly

    MMA Videos, Anderson Silva vs. Demian Maia, BJ Penn vs. Frankie Edgar

    also just use mmahunter or mmalinker to find fights

    but dont worry, none of them were stellar, at least none of the big ones

    munoz/grove and etim/anjos were fun tho
  62. #362
    Quote Originally Posted by vqc View Post
    i dont kno why silva apologizes after every fight. he always does the same thing.

    i wouldn't lose a fight to silva on the street. while he stood 10 feet away taunting me, i would just turn around and walk to my car.
    That is just amazing to me. Silva spends half the time taunting then when Maia tries to engage he bolts the fuck outa there

    I cannot believe anybody is defending him. I now want Silvas pompous hypocritical boring ass to get smashed more than anybody. Silva fighting at HW is now my dream because then he will have no option but to get donkey konged
  63. #363
    Silva is such a fucking joke. On the one hand he's the 'goat', but on the other hand he can't finish somebody he's supposedly goatier than. he taunts then runs, the only KOs he gets is when his opponent chases after him with inferiority and recklessness

    Part of the fun for me being an MMA fan is in having a heel. Normally, the heel for me is a fighter who has the worst nuthuggers due to being either morons or vastly overestimate their gods' skill. Previously, my heels were Brock, Fedor, and GSP simply because I hate their bandwagons, but not anymore. My hatred for Anderson Silva is now about six million times more than any other fighter and his retarded wagon.

    The next person to beat Silva becomes my favorite person of all time. It will happen too, Maia thoroughly exposed him for the epic striker he's not. Silva's good enough to pot shot, dance, and run away from sub-level strikers, but when he's in there with somebody who knows wtf theyre doing he's going to get smashed

    To me, this also answers the question of how Fedor would do against Silva. IMO, had Fedor fought at LHW all this time, he would not be undefeated yet probably still have the best record anyways, but now I see no way that Fedor wouldn't be the clear favorite vs Silva and his nancy showboating

  64. #364


    c'mooooooooonnnnnnn Dana! Sign Manhoef, sign Spong, go offer Badr Hari 1 mil to just come over on a one fight deal to obliterate Silva. DO IT. You know u want to. The man is a piece of shit who whines about everything but then does exactly the opposite of what he says. Show this fuckbag what it's like to not have the luxury of clowning around and making a mockery of something he clearly doesn't give a shit about

    Dana's on good terms with Ubereem, maybe use this as an opportunity to sign him more quickly than I suspect he'd planned, then make the Smashereem/Silva superfight I mean the Smashereem on Silva execution by Murderknee.
  65. #365
    good ol mirgsy's my new fav ref

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  67. #367
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Silva is such a fucking joke. On the one hand he's the 'goat', but on the other hand he can't finish somebody he's supposedly goatier than. he taunts then runs, the only KOs he gets is when his opponent chases after him with inferiority and recklessness

    Part of the fun for me being an MMA fan is in having a heel. Normally, the heel for me is a fighter who has the worst nuthuggers due to being either morons or vastly overestimate their gods' skill. Previously, my heels were Brock, Fedor, and GSP simply because I hate their bandwagons, but not anymore. My hatred for Anderson Silva is now about six million times more than any other fighter and his retarded wagon.

    The next person to beat Silva becomes my favorite person of all time. It will happen too, Maia thoroughly exposed him for the epic striker he's not. Silva's good enough to pot shot, dance, and run away from sub-level strikers, but when he's in there with somebody who knows wtf theyre doing he's going to get smashed

    To me, this also answers the question of how Fedor would do against Silva. IMO, had Fedor fought at LHW all this time, he would not be undefeated yet probably still have the best record anyways, but now I see no way that Fedor wouldn't be the clear favorite vs Silva and his nancy showboating

    maia punching off of his knees, while awesome, is a ridiculous byproduct of the rules. silva should be allowed to knee him in the dome there.

    how could you hate GSP?!
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  70. #370
    I actually kinda like GSP. He grew on me a little after his fight with Hardy.

    In the first place, it's not that I have dislike for GSP, but that I absolutely fucking hate retarded bandwagons, and he has one of the worst. I get easily irritated when fans treat their favorite fighters like they're gods. Part of why I'm not a big Fedor fan anymore, part of why I'm not a big GSP fan, and part of why I seem to be leaning towards Mo instead of Mousasi (Mous' bandwagon is becoming dangerously close to slurping his jizz straight from the tap)
  71. #371
    I also do enjoy some good hatin, and I have strong thoughts about MMA probably because Im normally analytical and if it wasn't for a debilitating injury that forced me out of wrestling, I would probably be an MMA today.
  72. #372
    You're so cool to not like something just because everyone else does.

    I mean if the 'mainstream' is into something, obviously that something is pedestrian and beneath you.

    I dunno, now that the mainstream has turned on silva, will you be forced to like him again, deciding it's once cool again to go against the flow?

    He's still easily the best in his class and cherry-picking clips doesn't prove otherwise.
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    Silva, who won by scores of 50-45, 50-45 and 49-46...

    Wait a minute. If pulling those kinds of shennanigans in a ring gets you the win, then you should continue to pull those kinds of shennanigans.

    It's like people calling bullshit on you for checkraising someone, or c-betting the shit out of someone who folds 99% of the time after the flop...

    If it works, and you're going to make a LOT of money doing it, then you should do it. If they don't like it, they should amend the rules.

    That having been said, Silva's a piece of shit.... but I can't bang on him for winning at all costs in a multimillion dollar sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d0zer View Post
    You're so cool to not like something just because everyone else does.

    I mean if the 'mainstream' is into something, obviously that something is pedestrian and beneath you.

    I dunno, now that the mainstream has turned on silva, will you be forced to like him again, deciding it's once cool again to go against the flow?

    He's still easily the best in his class and cherry-picking clips doesn't prove otherwise.
    Popularity of a fighter does not really affect my appreciation for them. I read a ton of MMA material because I really enjoy the topic, and when I see abysmal, seemingly pathological nuthuggery en masse, I get irritated.

    Take for example, Fedor. He's very good. In fact, he's arguably the most overall talented MMA of all time. But if you talk to his nuthuggers he's this unstoppable force that flies out of the ring after he eviscerates his opponents. Yet when you examine the game, you see that he's actually not head and shoulders above many other fighters despite appearances. I'm fine with hyperbole when it's pertinent, but when attempting to analyze the game, hyperbole needs to take a back seat. The problem is that among the vast majority of MMA fans, hyperbole does not take a back seat during the analytical process, and it just gets retarded how over or underrated fighters get.



    As for Silva, let's see how well he does the first time he fights somebody with elite level striking who is not intimidated by him. Also, Silva has tricked a whole lot of people simply by virtue of being the only person who goes out there to dance around. I recall Werdum doing some 'matrix' stuff vs Big Foot, but nobody noticed because the angle was bad and he wasn't making a spectacle of it like Anderson does. It's not like Silva has the market cornered on athleticism and talent. In fact, I think that Maia does a whole ton better in a rematch simply due to not being intimidated and knowing that his gameplan must involve lots of striking. Watch the 4th and 5th again, Maia opened up his striking a little bit, Silva was not gassed (despite what Rogan says, unless you think a gassed fighter will throw out spinning back kicks), yet Maia showed that he could hang with at least the Silva that fought those rounds. Maia probably even won those rounds
  75. #375
    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnar4 View Post
    Silva, who won by scores of 50-45, 50-45 and 49-46...

    Wait a minute. If pulling those kinds of shennanigans in a ring gets you the win, then you should continue to pull those kinds of shennanigans.

    It's like people calling bullshit on you for checkraising someone, or c-betting the shit out of someone who folds 99% of the time after the flop...

    If it works, and you're going to make a LOT of money doing it, then you should do it. If they don't like it, they should amend the rules.

    That having been said, Silva's a piece of shit.... but I can't bang on him for winning at all costs in a multimillion dollar sport.
    That is true, and it's a shame. I honestly feel that if a fighter 'coasts' to victory judges should be allowed to score against them

    OTOH, Silva's decision to coast, while it may appear intelligent in a vacuum, is actually ridiculously stupid. His boss doesn't like him and he's not a big draw because he makes decisions like this. In fact, he has probably lost a shitload of fans due to this fight, and that really hurts his purse.
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