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  1. #1351
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    I guess first I'll ask what the difference is between a Trump Republican, and a run of the mill Republican.

    Moving on...

    Trump just signed a budget bill with triple-digit million dollar spending increases. (Rule #4)

    Trump has proposed a 1.5 trillion dollar infrastructure bill (Rule #4 again)

    Only 200 million of it is covered in the federal budget. The other 1.3 trillion has to come from tax increases (Rule #3)

    Massive expansion of border infrastructure also violates rule 3, especially when half the country supports completely open borders

    The act of using this border infrastructure in order to deny American businesses access to cheaper labor violates Rule #2

    Frankly any "America First" policy is a violation of Rule #2 on some level.

    Finally, an overturning of Roe v Wade, which Trump supports, would pretty much violate all four of those pillars
    Even though I only responded to the Roe v Wade one, all of these are up for debate.
  2. #1352
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Even though I only responded to the Roe v Wade one, all of these are up for debate.
    Well if you're not saying "all of those are completely wrong". I'll take that to mean that you agree that Republicans are just as capable as anyone of bending their ideology when it suits a pet cause. Democrats don't have a monopoly on cognitive dissonance.
  3. #1353
    Sure. It should be noted that the Republican ethos is what Spoon posted though.
  4. #1354
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Am I being pedantic for calling out the difference between "meddling" and "collusion"????
    Yes, you sound desparate.
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    Is this even still a thing? Collusion happens, it's perfectly normal, and both sides are "guilty" of this. As for the "meddling", USA are the most guilty nation in the world when it comes to meddling with other nations' affairs.

    And anyone who still talks about the Russians as though they "hacked" the election, these are the people who are desperate.
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    ongies gonna ong
  6. #1356
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Doing it isn't bad; everyone does it!

    They didn't do it!
    Sorry, wait, who's a desperate screeching banshee?
  7. #1357
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Is this even still a thing? Collusion happens, it's perfectly normal, and both sides are "guilty" of this.
    No collusion is not normal.

    What is normal, is one nation making efforts to influence political outcomes in another nation. The vocabulatory consensus (a term I just made up) is that this describes "meddling". "Collusion" is something else. That would be one a candidate gets an advantage in the election from another government, in exchange for some kind of commitment to put that foreign government's concerns above your own.

    That is EXTRA fucking bad, and it's most definitely not normal.

    As for the "meddling", USA are the most guilty nation in the world when it comes to meddling with other nations' affairs.
    So? If it bothers you, do something about it. In the meantime, that doesn't mean that anyone who does it to us should get a pass. You seem to be applying a schoolyard standard of fairness to geopolitical affairs. Cmon Ong, it's grown-up time.

    And anyone who still talks about the Russians as though they "hacked" the election, these are the people who are desperate.
    Eh...it's 50/50.

    The most offensive of Russia's actions involved "hacking" of the DNC. That charge is proven true. It's also highly suspected, but not definitively proven, that the Russian's hacked John Podesta's email. So the word "hack" isn't totally offisides here.

    However, almost everyone who says it, is using it in a context that suggests Russia's efforts affected the outcome of the election. Furthermore, there is usually an insinuation that the election result, and Trump's presidency, is invalid.

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