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It's not hard to imagine a cop who thinks they are a hero but is at the same time a racist. I doubt any of the racist cops I encountered in my lifetime were ever thinking "Wow, am I ever an asshole harassing this guy." More likely it was something along the lines of "Injuns are bad. If I can arrest one, I'm doing the town a favour. Fuck, I'm a hero!"
Well, you're using a USA example while I'm talking about UK.
Or, you need one senior cop and one junior cop that is too scared to speak up.
In today's world, I'm not so sure about this. Imagine getting into trouble at work for exposing racism. Imagine how much you could sue your employer for.
Which begs the obvious question of why so many black people are in the poorer SES group here
We've discussed this before. Black people are more likely to be first, second or third generation immigrants who came here with nothing. White families have been settled here for centuries. Of course, there are lots of poor white people too. They tend to live on poor estates, and guess what? On such estates, white people get pulled over, either in cars or on foot, for "acting suspiciously" or whatever.
I'm speculating rather than stating facts, I'm just looking for other reasons beyond racism, because I really don't think cops are consciously acting racist in the UK, save for a few bad apples.
And I know you think it's 'cause they're lazy or w/e, but that's a poor argument.
I don't think this. I'm lazy. In my last town, the Muslims worked in the local convenience stores and fast food outlets, and the Albanians ran a car wash. I didn't see many people of colour in the jobcentre. But this is a mid size town with a small percentage of non-white residents. Other than a few social problems, there wasn't a race problem in this town, certainly not with the police.
There's something of note here, too. We don't often hear of Muslims being racially profiled when getting pulled over. They are more likely to be racially profiled when it comes to terrorism, but cops aren't generally spending their time looking for terrorists. This problem seems to be exclusive to black people, not all non-white people.
This kinda hints that's it's a social problem, not an institutional one.
I agree it's less racist here than in the US, and its rare to see blatant racist behaviour because it's frowned upon. But there's still subtle racism and not a question of if it exists but how deep it runs.
Yes, like I say, a social problem. We have plenty of dickheads. But the law does not discriminate.
Who do they need to get the green light from? Someone from the police PR department? That's not really a good system if that's how it works.
idk, and yes this is a problem if it's internal. But as far as I'm aware, this is an example where a formal complaint has not yet been made. If such a complaint is made, the bodycam footage will be available to the independent regulator.
Well duh. They know they can't be caught on tape saying "I'm bored, let's stop this black person." I'm sure they can cover their tracks in some way though (such as "whoops, entered the wrong reg number").
What, while winking at each other? It seems a stretch to think this is a widespread problem.
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