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  1. #2626
    You're all wasting your time. The biggest hoax being perpetrated right now isn't climate change, or flat-earth nonsense.

    The opioid crisis is a hoax.

    I went to the medical center with blinding, debilitating pain my neck and shoulder. Diagnosed with a fucked up brachial plexus. I got a shot in the ass of some pain medication that did absolutely nothing. They gave me prescription for anti-inflammatory steroids and sent me home.

    The next day I want back, in much worse pain. I had to sign like four new consent forms, and fill out a questionnaire about my criminal history, in addition to literally begging this bitch doctor to make me comfortable. I wanted one fucking vicodin so I could get a god damn nights sleep and they make you jump through hoops of fire.

    I did get a few pills, and so far I've not turned into a hopeless heroin junkie.

    My guess is that Big-Weed is engaged in a monopolistic conspiracy to drive pain-relieving competitors out of the market.
  2. #2627
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    You're all wasting your time. The biggest hoax being perpetrated right now isn't climate change, or flat-earth nonsense.

    The opioid crisis is a hoax.

    I went to the medical center with blinding, debilitating pain my neck and shoulder. Diagnosed with a fucked up brachial plexus. I got a shot in the ass of some pain medication that did absolutely nothing. They gave me prescription for anti-inflammatory steroids and sent me home.

    The next day I want back, in much worse pain. I had to sign like four new consent forms, and fill out a questionnaire about my criminal history, in addition to literally begging this bitch doctor to make me comfortable. I wanted one fucking vicodin so I could get a god damn nights sleep and they make you jump through hoops of fire.

    I did get a few pills, and so far I've not turned into a hopeless heroin junkie.

    My guess is that Big-Weed is engaged in a monopolistic conspiracy to drive pain-relieving competitors out of the market.
    Are you saying that lots of people are not addicted and ruining their lives from opioid abuse?
  3. #2628
    The Singapore meeting has the makings for true, lasting peace.
  4. #2629
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Are you saying that lots of people are not addicted and ruining their lives from opioid abuse?
    I'm saying they're harder to get than gold bars, and there isn't a gold-bar crisis in this country. You do the math.
  5. #2630
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    I'm saying they're harder to get than gold bars, and there isn't a gold-bar crisis in this country. You do the math.
    Are you saying that because of this lots of people aren't addicted and ruining their lives?
  6. #2631
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Are you saying that because of this lots of people aren't addicted and ruining their lives?
    How can someone be addicted to something that's universally unavailable?

    Like, suppose it was determined that the most dangerously addictive substance in the universe was water from Neptune. Would we be calling that a "crisis"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    How can someone be addicted to something that's universally unavailable?

    Like, suppose it was determined that the most dangerously addictive substance in the universe was water from Neptune. Would we be calling that a "crisis"?
    Are you saying that lots of people are not addicted to opioids?
  8. #2633
    I don't give a fuck how many idiots are addicted to opoids. Why should that mean I have crap painkillers?

    I have a some tramadol in my first aid kit, a friend had them prescribed and had lots left over so gave me some. I wouldn't get any off a doctor since he knows I smoke weed. Therefore I'm a drug addict in-waiting, so I can't have nice things like effective painkillers in my first aid kit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I don't give a fuck how many idiots are addicted to opoids. Why should that mean I have crap painkillers?

    I have a some tramadol in my first aid kit, a friend had them prescribed and had lots left over so gave me some. I wouldn't get any off a doctor since he knows I smoke weed. Therefore I'm a drug addict in-waiting, so I can't have nice things like effective painkillers in my first aid kit.
    I was under the impression that weed alleviates pain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    I was under the impression that weed alleviates pain
    Sure it does, but it's mild and only alleviates certain kinds of pain. I hurt my back recently, it was borderline unbearable and I couldn't sleep, a spliff wasn't going to touch it. Ibuprofen + tramadol and I slept like a baby, and next day the pain was minimal.

    But trams are opiates. I wouldn't want to take them regularly. If I have knee pain, which I sometimes get, well I'll still take ibuprofen because it's anti-inflammatry, it reduces swelling, but spliffs certainly help matters here.
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    Weed can also heighten sensitivity to physical stimulus - that notorious tingly feeling.

    It played hell on my migraines back in the day.
  13. #2638
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    I was under the impression that weed alleviates pain
    false. Even if it does work, it' doesn't work 10% as well as other drugs designed specifically for that purpose.

    Ong - Tramadol sucks for pain, it also sucks for recreation. And it makes your boner stop working. Good luck.
  14. #2639
    Well it sorted my bad back out a treat. It's good enough for my first aid kit. Maybe if I were in hospital with a missing limb, I'd want something better.
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    Lots of people saying nobody predicted this.

    Shit, nigga, I predicted it over a year ago.
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    I'll give credit where credit is due, impressive. Interesting to hear how Kim explains this to his people and what Trump promised him in exchange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    I'll give credit where credit is due, impressive. Interesting to hear how Kim explains this to his people and what Trump promised him in exchange.
  21. #2646
    Like the start of a movie montage

  22. #2647
    Based Imam with the insightful insight!

  23. #2648
    Given the OIG report that just came out, if Clinton, Comey, and others are not prosecuted, justice will be grossly miscarried.
  24. #2649
    If these criminals aren't brought to justice, will Trump's presidency be a failure?
  25. #2650
    No less than THREE members of the FBI

    A) worked on the fixed Hillary email investigation
    B) have been proven to have made documented statements illustrating political bias against Trump and an active desire to take trump down.
    C) Subsequently joined the Meuller investigation



    Given that, can anyone tell me how Mueller and his investigation have any credibility?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Given the OIG report that just came out, if Clinton, Comey, and others are not prosecuted, justice will be grossly miscarried.
    The same Comey who oh so publicly reopened the investigation into Clinton's emails less than two weeks before the election? That Comey should be prosecuted? If I were you I'd give him an MVP trophy
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Like the start of a movie montage

    Dumb and dumber's already been done. Too bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    The same Comey who oh so publicly reopened the investigation into Clinton's emails less than two weeks before the election? That Comey should be prosecuted? If I were you I'd give him an MVP trophy
    It would be like the Warriors hating on JR Smith
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Like the start of a movie montage

    I am really interested to know if all this is more than just a photo-op for both sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    The same Comey who oh so publicly reopened the investigation into Clinton's emails less than two weeks before the election? That Comey should be prosecuted? If I were you I'd give him an MVP trophy
    Are you trolling here? Seriously? Because I find it hard to believe that a person could actually be this obtuse.

    Do you think that announcement swayed even a single vote toward Trump? How does that make any sense at all. At the time, Trump was accused of, and being investigated for FAR worse crimes.

    Do you really believe that there is a single voter that said "I was gonna vote for Hillary, but now I'm worried about this email investigation. I think I'll vote for the guy currently being investigated for treason."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Dumb and dumber's already been done. Too bad.
    It's a great fit
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  33. #2658
    The question is still out there......

    Name one objectively terrible thing that's happened as a result of a Trump presidency.
  34. #2659
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Name one objectively terrible thing that's happened as a result of a Trump presidency.
    USA failing to qualify for the World Cup.
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  35. #2660
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    USA failing to qualify for the World Cup.
    Yeah, well Obama tried like hell for 8 years to bring the World Cup to America with no results. Trump got it done in the first 500 days.

    60 games in North America, 40 in the US, and exactly 0 people give a shit.

    We have good football, remember?
  36. #2661
    You guys play AFL?
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  37. #2662
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    You guys play AFL?
    I don't understand the question, and I won't answer it.

    In other football news, Tom Brady is fucking up the Patriots.

    In on-topic news, Trump's having a damn good month.
  38. #2663
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/19/polit...ion/index.html

    It amazes me how seemingly intelligent, educated, clearly successful people can be so fucking clueless.

    There is zero chance that this issue impacts the midterm elections whatsoever. This guy even points out, that most republicans are FOR it! And anyone who is against it, doesn't care enough to change their vote over it. No one who votes is affected by this AT ALL. He keeps citing 'suburban women'. I'm pretty sure Trump slaughtered Hillary among white, college-educated women. They're gonna go blue all of a sudden because some criminals couldn't take their baby to jail with them?? Cmon!

    And it's not like the Dems have a better plan. They don't wanna separate kids and parents....ok, so what does that mean?

    Kids go to jail too?

    Anyone travelling with a kid gets to come into America unchallenged?

    Anyone travelling with a kid gets sent back to Mexico where they can try to come over again and again until they're eventually successful?

    All I'm hearing on this is a typical flare up of Trump-Derangement Syndrome.
  39. #2664
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...at-border.html

    Republicans to the rescue!!

    If congress passes laws to fix this, under republican leadership, at the urging of Trump....then what will the democrats have left to complain about?

    It really does feel like this "crisis at the border" is such a big deal because the liberal media really has nothing else to complain about. The economy is rocking. ISIS is toast. Taxes are low. Jobs are plentiful. Wages are up. I still want to know what objectively terrible thing has happened as a result of a Trump presidency?
  40. #2665
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/19/polit...ion/index.html

    It amazes me how seemingly intelligent, educated, clearly successful people can be so fucking clueless.

    There is zero chance that this issue impacts the midterm elections whatsoever. This guy even points out, that most republicans are FOR it! And anyone who is against it, doesn't care enough to change their vote over it. No one who votes is affected by this AT ALL. He keeps citing 'suburban women'. I'm pretty sure Trump slaughtered Hillary among white, college-educated women. They're gonna go blue all of a sudden because some criminals couldn't take their baby to jail with them?? Cmon!

    And it's not like the Dems have a better plan. They don't wanna separate kids and parents....ok, so what does that mean?

    Kids go to jail too?

    Anyone travelling with a kid gets to come into America unchallenged?

    Anyone travelling with a kid gets sent back to Mexico where they can try to come over again and again until they're eventually successful?

    All I'm hearing on this is a typical flare up of Trump-Derangement Syndrome.
    Chris Cillizza has been prominently featured saying the opposite thing than what he said a few months previous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...at-border.html

    Republicans to the rescue!!

    If congress passes laws to fix this, under republican leadership, at the urging of Trump....then what will the democrats have left to complain about?

    It really does feel like this "crisis at the border" is such a big deal because the liberal media really has nothing else to complain about. The economy is rocking. ISIS is toast. Taxes are low. Jobs are plentiful. Wages are up. I still want to know what objectively terrible thing has happened as a result of a Trump presidency?
    At least people are waking up to the nonsense the media spews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    I don't understand the question, and I won't answer it.
    I was implying that even Australia has a better national game than you guys.
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  43. #2668
    This is why Australia > USA



    I haven't figured the rules out. I figured out that you have to kick it between the middle sticks for a goal, and they don't like it if you "chuck" it, although I can't quite figure out quite what they mean by "chuck", since that means "throw" in proper English, and they're throwing it loads.

    But still. Looks fucking ace, grab me a mid-strength beer and some sunny lotion.
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    This is hilarious. They used to show it on the sports channel in Canada back when, but they also scored touches so not sure it's quite the same thing. More or less the same level of violence though.

    Would be easier to tell what they mean by chuck if I could understand more than 20% of the other words they're using.
  45. #2670
    And oh yea, it's the Dems' fault the parents and kids are being separated at the border.

    Enjoy the Trump Kool-Aid while it lasts.
  46. #2671
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    And oh yea, it's the Dems' fault the parents and kids are being separated at the border.

    Enjoy the Trump Kool-Aid while it lasts.
    Do you really need this explained to you??

    Do you really think Trump just woke up one day and said "You know what....let's find a way to be cruel to brown people"

    What do you think Trump's goal is by having this 'zero tolerance' policy at the border?

    Is it a goal he's tried to accomplish in the past using more diplomatic measures?

    If so, how did the democrats respond to those attempts? Were they cooperative?

    Are you starting to see now why a stubborn obstructionist agenda only makes Trump more powerful??

    The democrats have dug in their heels on immigration and have made it clear that they will accept no policy short of completely open borders. No sensible, productive, patriotic voter actually wants that. It's merely a power-accumulation tactic by a political party that no longer has a damn thing to offer the middle class. And they recruit support by presenting their positions as "compassionate". Their compassion is careless, and if you point that out, your charges are classified as non-compassionate, i.e. hateful.

    A foul-mouthed, lecherous, reality TV star became president by screaming about a wall. How many Americans do you think really feel bad if an illegal immigrant has a bad time?

    Instead of recognizing that fact and doing everything possible to negotiate the fairest, most sensible policies for America, the Dems have doubled, tripled, and quadrupled down on their deranged demands for completely unrestricted borders. It's clear that their only hope for survival is to maintain an ever-expanding lower class. Policies of careless compassion only resonate with ignorant and/or suffering people.
  47. #2672
    So Trump steps up, fixes the problem that everyone is bitching about, and because he didn't do it by summarily eliminating the entire border patrol agency, customs enforcement, and the US marshalls, these are the headlines currently on CNN.com

    Analysis: White House totally botched the family separation fight

    Obama and Biden slam family separation as immoral

    Tapper: Trump surrendered

    I hope Trump never cures cancer. I would hate to read all those depressing stories about unemployed doctors.
  48. #2673
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    And oh yea, it's the Dems' fault the parents and kids are being separated at the border.
    It is the fault of those who create the incentive for illegal crossings. So, that means it is the fault of all Democrat politicians and most Republican politicians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    It is the fault of those who create the incentive for illegal crossings. So, that means it is the fault of all Democrat politicians and most Republican politicians.
    No it's the fault of whoever's idea it was to implement a policy of separating families. And that's Trump and his gang.

    And now, your beloved president has decided it's not politic to put kids in concentration camps to try to get a wall, so he's signed the executive order to stop his little adventure in brutality. Slow clap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    No it's the fault of whoever's idea it was to implement a policy of separating families. And that's Trump and his gang.
    You make it sound like "Trump and his gang" sat around a table and said "And you know what else would really stick it to those shit-hole-dwellers. Let's take away their kids!! Yeah! Hate! Hate! Go Racism!"

    The policy was implemented in 1997 (who was prez then?). And it basically says crossing the border improperly is a crime, and in our system of justice, we prosecute and punish criminals. So if you get nabbed jumping the border, then you go to jail. That's the policy.

    It's the same policy that applies to bank robbers, car theives, tax cheats, fraudsters, assaulters, murderers, and perpetrators of mayhem. WHen you commit one of those acts, you go to jail, and your kids don't get to go with you. A huge % of the prison population has a kid at home. Does that mean we should just forgive their crimes in the name of "family unity"?

    In this case, the immigrant criminals are given 20 days to find somewhere safe to send their kids. That's plenty of time for Uncle Jorge to drive up from Guadalajara and pick up the little brats. So I'm still not seeing why this is even a problem.


    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    And now, your beloved president has decided it's not politic to put kids in concentration camps to try to get a wall, so he's signed the executive order to stop his little adventure in brutality. Slow clap.
    Again you make it sound like this was all a calculated move. You're claiming some nefarious hidden agenda, obscured by 3d chess moves in the media, perpetrated by someone you claim is unable to construct a coherent sentence. Make up your mind.

    No one thinks it's a great thing that families are separated. No one wants that. No one coordinated that to happen on purpose. Take off your foil hat for just a god damn minute. When it happened, Trump demanded congressional action. Republicans were ready to go. Schumer, the Dem leader, threw up his hands and said "Not our problem".

    Have you seen the recent cover of Time Magazine? It shows Trump looking in the mirror, but his reflection is all dressed like a King. How many of you libtards have been screaming "NO FASCISM", and bemoaning Trump's "Desire to be a dictator". Now the guy tries to invoke democracy and representative governement to address a social problem. He calls for legislative action in a democratic country. And the media still shits all over him for it.

    It's ok for Trump to be a dictator when he's doing things you like? Democracy and representative government are important unless the democrats want something right fucking now? Is that where we're at??
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    The policy was implemented in 1997*
    * Citation Needed
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    And why is it such a problem now?

    Bonus sidenote: Obama was known as the deporter in chief, having deported way more illegal immigrants than any administration before him. Yet his approach was still considered as if he wasn't deporting anyone according to many rightwingers.

    And despite that fact, it is now (Now, apr/may/june/july 2018. Obama is quite out of the picture BTW) which this family separation thing hits the news cycle. I wonder why ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    Did politicians create the jobs and economy there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    Did politicians create the jobs and economy there?
    Could you explain what you're getting at?
  56. #2681
    Is the current talk in media about happenings on the border because pedophrasts are not getting their way?
  57. #2682
    If kids are made to suffer unnecessarily is there a way to protest it without being a pedophrast?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    If kids are made to suffer unnecessarily is there a way to protest it without being a pedophrast?
    Yeah, blame the parents who forced those kids to go on a life-threatening desert death march in the first place.
  59. #2684
    This brilliant plan to secure the borders seems to have missed one tiny detail: A plan to have a way to reunite kids with families. But I guess that's not a problem if you can just leave the UN human rights council.

    Texas judge said it best:

    If someone at the jail takes your wallet, you get a receipt. They take your kids and you get nothing? Not even a slip of paper?
    Pure shame on America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    If kids are made to suffer unnecessarily is there a way to protest it without being a pedophrast?
    Sure. Pedophrasty is an appeal to emotion. To not be a pedophrast, one must based argument on reason and evidence without using the emotional component that suspends reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    This brilliant plan to secure the borders seems to have missed one tiny detail: A plan to have a way to reunite kids with families. But I guess that's not a problem if you can just leave the UN human rights council.

    Texas judge said it best:



    Pure shame on America.
    It's not a plan to secure the border, it's a plan to appeal to idiot racists. And as wuf and bananaspoon have demonstrated: it's working. The real shame is that the people who still support Trump will not be held accountable for the damage caused by their boundless stupidity. I've watched in confusion while Italians got dazzled by Berlusconi, Russians got duped by Putin and more recently: Turks looked up starry eyed to Erdogan, but I've never seen the abject self debasement Trump supporters voluntarily subject themselves to. You have your face planted on the tiling with your ass pulled in the air and your cheeks apart, but tragically you're not the one getting fucked.
    At this point I have zero respect for anyone who supports this fat piece of shit wannabe dictator. You might not think you're a racist, but I'm not going to believe for a second that you'd be ok with children being locked up indefinitely for a misdemeanor of their parents, if those kids were white. Lucky for you, you'll get bailed out by the majority of Americans with some historic literacy, and never have to see where this is heading if it went unopposed.
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    Hey man, if you need an ear, hit me up. I'm a good listener.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Could you explain what you're getting at?
    Seriously? I thought that would have been obvious. Well ok.

    You talked about incentives for migrating to the US. I understand that you were referring to something like lax border control or mild consequences for migrating illegally. If the were the incentives, people from Mexico would likely be going to Venezuela or Honduras. Instead they choose the US, and the reason for that is the hope for a better life and a well-paying job. They're not going to the US because of the immigration laws, they're going despite them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Sure. Pedophrasty is an appeal to emotion. To not be a pedophrast, one must based argument on reason and evidence without using the emotional component that suspends reason.
    Sure, but any argument that includes the words 'children' and 'suffering' can be accused of pedophrasty, since there's no way to divorce those concepts from emotion. So the whole pedophrasty argument can just be a cop out excuse for letting children suffer.

    e.g.

    Critic: "It's cruel to make children suffer."

    Trumpist: "You're just a pedophrast."
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    Sure, but any argument that includes the words 'children' and 'suffering' can be accused of pedophrasty, since there's no way to divorce those concepts from emotion
    What the fuck does "pedophrasty" mean?
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    What the fuck does "pedophrasty" mean?
    I made it up based on pedophrast. The practice of using children to make an argument have an appeal to emotions when it wouldn't otherwise have a good grounding.

    e.g., "Immigration is bad. What if it was your child who got killed by an immigrant gang member?"
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    Hahaha, the reality distortion field is strong on this one

    Epiphany: Trump's twitter is the bible. It's full of contradictions, and yet supporters cherry pick that which they agree with at any given moment. Which of course fluctuates. Everyone is both an ally and a villain at the same time.

    And then they take that same mindset and want to apply it to reality.

    Bonus: 10:23 is priceless. Truly epic. Proof that reality does not matter, in any way, shape or form whatsoever. Trump's America is truly something to behold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    What the fuck does "pedophrasty" mean?
    Apparently if you bring up children when talking about the separation and detainment of children, anything you say is invalid because it amounts to pedophrastry - apparently meaning something like using children to beg for money or use as an appeal to emotion, although I have not found any usage of the word outside of tabloid articles and twitter.

    So to reiterate: I take your child, you ask me to give it back. I call you a pedophrast for bringing up children, thus winning the argument and archiving moral highground.

    If this doesn't make sense to you, it's probably because you're not an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Sure, but any argument that includes the words 'children' and 'suffering' can be accused of pedophrasty, since there's no way to divorce those concepts from emotion. So the whole pedophrasty argument can just be a cop out excuse for letting children suffer.

    e.g.

    Critic: "It's cruel to make children suffer."

    Trumpist: "You're just a pedophrast."
    Everybody agrees that children shouldn't suffer.

    Productive discussion will happen when it doesn't involve suspending reason by appealing to that emotion.
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    Seriously? I thought that would have been obvious. Well ok.

    You talked about incentives for migrating to the US. I understand that you were referring to something like lax border control or mild consequences for migrating illegally. If the were the incentives, people from Mexico would likely be going to Venezuela or Honduras. Instead they choose the US, and the reason for that is the hope for a better life and a well-paying job. They're not going to the US because of the immigration laws, they're going despite them.
    Thank you for the clarification.

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    There doesn't need to be a discussion. Here are the reasons, the actual reasons white house representatives and the president have given for the policy: It's a bad democrat law (lie), that we choose to enforce, because (brace yourself,) it is biblical to enforce the law (verbatim) BUT ALSO it's a deterrent (Sessions) but it's also insulting to even suggest it's a deterrent (Nielsen) BUT ALSO because think of all the american children these immigrants will murder if we let them infest (verbatim) the country, and lets think of those because those are the real victims (Trump, ldo)

    This is clowntown.
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    When an uptalking millennial dressed like a cartoon duck makes more sense than you it's time to rethink your values.

    https://youtu.be/j2RhPCNa7u0?t=1m1s
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    That's quite the movie you're watching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    When an uptalking millennial dressed like a cartoon duck makes more sense than you it's time to rethink your values.

    https://youtu.be/j2RhPCNa7u0?t=1m1s
    Could it be that everybody in this video has no idea what they're talking about?

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