05-25-2018 01:07 AM
#2476
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05-25-2018 01:22 AM
#2477
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You don't need to design a study. There are innumerable examples from history and other places in the world where employers are not held accountable for discrimination. You just have to look at what happens. That's why Harvest of Shame is a great example. It's in very recent history of the US and it's very well documented. If workers have no rights, they get exploited. As simple as that. | |
Last edited by oskar; 05-25-2018 at 01:27 AM.
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05-25-2018 01:43 AM
#2478
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05-25-2018 08:25 AM
#2479
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So we know for a fact that fewer or no workers rights results in very poor condition for workers in every scenario it has ever been tried in, but you say that you are convinced it would be better because you have a philosophical argument for why it works? | |
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05-25-2018 12:53 PM
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05-25-2018 01:25 PM
#2481
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Are you talking about worker's rights? or anti-discrimination policies? If we're talking about worker's rights like safety protections and shit like that, then yeah....the gov't should definitely be enforcing that shit. But if we're talking about anti-discrimination policies.....like policies that seek to ensure that groups of races and genders are proportionally represented then those policies most definitely are bad for everyone. Paraphrasing Sowell here... |
05-25-2018 03:55 PM
#2482
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Last edited by oskar; 05-25-2018 at 03:58 PM.
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05-25-2018 04:01 PM
#2483
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05-25-2018 04:23 PM
#2484
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No, it's just flat out wrong. They just moved the background checks to later in the application process that's all. Background checks are still done. If you want to argue with me, fact check your shit. I don't care if you're trolling, I don't care if your arguments are dumb, but don't make me fact check your shit. | |
Last edited by oskar; 05-25-2018 at 04:26 PM.
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05-25-2018 06:06 PM
#2485
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Semantics |
05-25-2018 07:19 PM
#2486
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05-25-2018 09:04 PM
#2487
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The idea that this is known is not true. For every example one can find that suggest one side, at least as many examples can be found that suggest the other side. My point is that each of those are irrelevant because there are too many unknowns, and I know that the examples appeal to confirmation bias. |
Last edited by wufwugy; 05-25-2018 at 09:31 PM. | |
05-25-2018 09:14 PM
#2488
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05-25-2018 09:34 PM
#2489
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05-26-2018 08:41 AM
#2490
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Not sure about that. |
05-26-2018 10:17 AM
#2491
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At what dollar cost and what opportunity cost? Each of government and employers/employees/consumers care about safety and they each try to get as much *safety-value as they can. Using the price system and allowing employers/employees/consumers to choose makes the most amount of safety-value. |
05-26-2018 11:23 AM
#2492
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You're giving people too much credit for having the information necessary to make informed choices. Would you check to see if a company's MSDS's are up to date before you consider a job there? Are you verifying the adequacy of ventilation and lighting? Are you doing an asbestos inspection? |
05-26-2018 11:45 AM
#2493
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We are both giving people credit for having said information. You are saying bureaucrats have better information. I am saying that the marketplace, making up the people acting in the marketplace, does. |
05-26-2018 11:59 AM
#2494
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Question for Brits, what has the Malpractice Media said about the latest event with Tommy Robinson? |
05-26-2018 12:27 PM
#2495
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A civil war against the incredible racism in the North would be quite the stroke of irony. |
05-26-2018 06:33 PM
#2496
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05-26-2018 06:34 PM
#2497
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05-26-2018 08:02 PM
#2498
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05-26-2018 08:43 PM
#2499
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05-26-2018 09:03 PM
#2500
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It looks like this is just a complete non-story for anyone outside white-nationalist circles. It doesn't get reported because nobody cares. | |
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05-26-2018 09:08 PM
#2501
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I'm not really looking for an argument, however you claimed that "since WW2, the 2nd Amendment protects the rest of the world because of the US military's position" | |
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05-26-2018 09:30 PM
#2502
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Last edited by wufwugy; 05-26-2018 at 09:42 PM. | |
05-26-2018 09:32 PM
#2503
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05-26-2018 09:42 PM
#2504
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05-26-2018 09:52 PM
#2505
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That unquestionably had to be your opinion, which is actually what fascinates me, the how you can reach that opinion while having all the facts which paint a different picture a google search away | |
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05-26-2018 09:58 PM
#2506
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My opinion is not one that the evidence does much confirmation for or against. |
05-26-2018 11:34 PM
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In just one tweet, Trump shows that he is improving the world where the Malpractice Media has been making it worse for decades: |
05-27-2018 04:30 AM
#2508
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Depends who you ask. If you ask one of his supporters, yes. If you ask the police, no. | |
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05-27-2018 05:03 PM
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05-27-2018 05:39 PM
#2510
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It should go without saying that journalists have a responsibility to report these cases responsibly... ie, treating the accused as innocent until proven guilty, stick to facts, and respecting privacy. idk what Tommy was doing, what he planned to do with any footage, what footage he has published, if he's published names, It's important that any journalism doesn't compromise the trial, and if it does, well that's a pretty serious offence. | |
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05-27-2018 07:01 PM
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05-27-2018 08:30 PM
#2512
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This isn't true. He got arrested for disturbing the peace. What he does is he takes his little groups to events like this, causes it to kick off as he brings idiots with him and then makes out he's the most innocent person and it's everything against him because he gets in trouble. |
05-27-2018 08:31 PM
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05-27-2018 09:03 PM
#2514
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I consume resources that are about as biased as it gets. |
05-28-2018 02:11 AM
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05-28-2018 02:39 AM
#2516
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05-28-2018 03:06 AM
#2517
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It's always good to acknowledge bias even if the biased doesn't. |
05-28-2018 05:17 AM
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There are many types of journalism. I don't mind opinion pieces. My favorite articles in recent times have mostly been Vanity Fair and The New Yorker. Some of the best columns I've ever read were published in Playboy Magazine. I do read it for the articles! You just have to know what you're looking at. If you want your news to be as straight up as they can be, I recommend The Smoking Gun and court docs from .gov sites. Cspan has been more entertaining to me lately than any infotainment show. | |
Last edited by oskar; 05-28-2018 at 05:19 AM.
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05-28-2018 11:44 AM
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I think the issue many people have is that reporting on everything has gotten so bad that even stories that look one way on the surface often are not that way in truth. |
Last edited by wufwugy; 05-28-2018 at 11:46 AM. | |
05-28-2018 04:09 PM
#2520
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05-29-2018 09:36 AM
#2521
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Agreed. But it's addressing the right problem. |
05-29-2018 01:04 PM
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Let me rephrase in a language you find more persuasive: | |
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05-29-2018 04:45 PM
#2523
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"Grave" concern?? Really??? Like this is life and death shit? This alleged conflict of interest is so massive that it could potentially start an armed conflict leading to human casualties??? |
05-29-2018 04:47 PM
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05-29-2018 05:13 PM
#2525
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05-29-2018 06:03 PM
#2526
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It wouldn't be a big deal if he disclosed it to congress, which he did not. Since he didn't, it could violate the nobility clause. Lobbying is also legal... which baffles the mind. If done by registered lobbyists, and disclosed, which the Michael Cohen payments were not. If those were honest mistakes through incompetence, then why the memory lapses of everyone involved? | |
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05-29-2018 06:07 PM
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Also where the fuck were you guys when Trump was screaming PAY FOR PLAY like a demented donkey over and over again, referring to fully disclosed payments into Hilary Clintons charity that had no financial ties to her campaign. But somehow when Trump directly benefits from much larger payments into projects that are directly tied to his personal or campaign finances, somehow this is now fine? | |
Last edited by oskar; 05-29-2018 at 08:18 PM.
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05-29-2018 08:33 PM
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Do you ever watch Fox News?? If not, I'd say that's probably affecting your awareness of what Fox News says. |
05-29-2018 08:53 PM
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05-29-2018 08:56 PM
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Last edited by wufwugy; 05-29-2018 at 09:00 PM. | |
05-29-2018 08:57 PM
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05-29-2018 08:57 PM
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05-29-2018 09:00 PM
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05-29-2018 09:15 PM
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05-29-2018 09:20 PM
#2535
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This is an issue I'd like to hear viewpoints on from people smarter than me. I have no clue if I think the "deliberate attempt to deceive" should be illegal or not. I don't like it, but I don't have a handle on the most important elements of the topic so I can't say whether or not it's better for it to be legal or illegal. |
05-29-2018 09:36 PM
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Last edited by BananaStand; 05-29-2018 at 09:39 PM. | |
05-29-2018 09:50 PM
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Popadopoulous - Iffy at best |
05-29-2018 09:55 PM
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That reminds me, my bet proposal doesn't apply if Trump dies or removes due to health issues. It has to be impeachment or the like. |
05-29-2018 10:03 PM
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Here's an investigation in full swing that has gone unnoticed by some. |
05-29-2018 10:40 PM
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This is some of the most ignorant shit going. Honestly man, is this really what you think of Trump voters? You seem to think that Trump won because he appealed to simple-minded ignorant people, and that there are simply more of them than there are enlightened and informed Clinton voters. You're out of your god damned mind. That snobby superiority is why whoever the dems put up in 2020 will get demolished. |
05-29-2018 11:15 PM
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I used to think Republicans/the right-wing/conservatives were very stupid and very bigoted. It's neat how peering behind the curtain has disabused me of that ignorance and cruelty. |
05-30-2018 07:57 AM
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05-30-2018 10:54 AM
#2543
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Yeppers. FTR has done plenty to expose me to intelligent conservative arguments and perspectives. | |
05-30-2018 11:08 AM
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05-30-2018 02:45 PM
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I wouldn't mind but it seems pointless because I don't defend lobbying. I was just pointing out that it seems hypocritical to attack Hilary for lobbying when Trump also did it, and allegedly a lot more than that. | |
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05-30-2018 03:22 PM
#2546
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I give your sarcastic rant a 4/10. Do you have a point? |
Last edited by BananaStand; 05-30-2018 at 03:26 PM. | |
05-30-2018 09:10 PM
#2547
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It's good to see I'm not the only one. |
05-30-2018 09:23 PM
#2548
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Lots of people don't like that. The question is stopping it effectively. The Trump crowd is probably the largest crowd in the country who makes positive movement on stopping it. Trump has also made a great amount of positive movement on stopping it compared to predecessors. |
06-01-2018 09:10 AM
#2549
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So this happened... |
06-01-2018 08:17 PM
#2550
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Fuck I wanna be CEO of Fox with total power. Then I can do the greatest thing a human can possibly do: bring back Firefly. |