04-28-2018 10:33 AM
#2326
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04-28-2018 10:40 AM
#2327
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04-28-2018 10:51 AM
#2328
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Steve Doocy is a dork (DUCY?) and Trump on the phone is not what I would consider a good time. |
04-28-2018 11:05 AM
#2329
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A Korean's perspective on Korea and the US: |
04-28-2018 11:22 AM
#2330
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04-28-2018 11:22 AM
#2331
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04-28-2018 01:35 PM
#2332
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Obama media has stated that Obama told Trump that NK is the biggest problem he will face. |
04-28-2018 02:43 PM
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04-28-2018 02:58 PM
#2334
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04-28-2018 04:24 PM
#2335
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04-28-2018 04:38 PM
#2336
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Caved in and watched it. | |
Last edited by oskar; 04-28-2018 at 04:48 PM.
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04-28-2018 04:47 PM
#2337
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And he does the same thing as Jordan Peterson and the other redpill guys. Say very simple things in the most convoluted and roundabout way so that A: people can bring their own interpretation, which makes it more agreeable. And B: be vague enough that you can always backpedal and no one can nail you down on what you said exactly. It's atrocious. | |
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04-28-2018 05:19 PM
#2338
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04-28-2018 06:26 PM
#2339
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04-28-2018 06:43 PM
#2340
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04-28-2018 07:30 PM
#2341
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You are the one making unsubstantiated claims about Trumps victory regarding NK. Nothing has happened. Talks are on the way. If they negotiate a peace deal, very little will change. Hopefully some families can re-unite, maybe some foreign prisoners will get released, but that's already waaaay optimistic. There isn't even a consideration to get rid of nukes on NK part. They are halting further testing while talks are underway. Not that their previous tests were anything other than symbolic. They have no intention on attacking anyone. Their nukes are a deterrent without which the dprk would no longer exist. | |
Last edited by oskar; 04-28-2018 at 07:35 PM.
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05-01-2018 02:59 PM
#2342
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Trump laying out the specifics regarding his NK strategy. | |
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05-01-2018 03:15 PM
#2343
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Ya, but you can tell that he's using real words and phrases in there, so obviously he's coherent. Doesn't matter it's free association rambling, that's just so Hillary won't see the hammer coming and then when the fake news says it's something fake, which they do, it will always still be a win, cause you just keep on winning with this president. Unlike the Persians. | |
05-03-2018 05:45 AM
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https://twitter.com/RealAlexJones/st...21835816505344 | |
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05-03-2018 06:10 PM
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https://youtu.be/naLQ35Py-aE?t=6m42s | |
Last edited by oskar; 05-03-2018 at 06:16 PM.
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05-03-2018 08:14 PM
#2346
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05-03-2018 10:07 PM
#2347
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That people not only believe in a god, but in a specific god, and are not ashamed of it but are proud to show it publicly, and that the most powerful people in the world would be that kind of people. That is INSANE to me. | |
Last edited by oskar; 05-03-2018 at 10:15 PM.
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05-04-2018 04:53 AM
#2348
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That's not very nice of you oskar, dare I say it you're almost being a bigot? If they were talking to Allah, then your mockery would be a hate crime. | |
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05-04-2018 03:58 PM
#2349
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05-04-2018 05:14 PM
#2350
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You mean the guy that says the bible is more true than truth, because words don't mean anything anymore? | |
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05-04-2018 07:33 PM
#2351
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05-04-2018 07:56 PM
#2352
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He likes to redefine words like truth or reality to mean something entirely different than the dictionary definition. That's what I was getting at. | |
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05-04-2018 08:14 PM
#2353
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Thanks for posting this. Some thoughts as I watch it: |
05-04-2018 08:19 PM
#2354
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The dictionary defines the meaning of words. What book exists that definitively explains concepts? If you want to insist that "truth" is a word and that's it, then you're a dick. Truth can be discussed as a concept. |
05-04-2018 08:24 PM
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For all we know, believing something makes it true. |
05-04-2018 08:33 PM
#2356
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Something that Peterson doesn't seem to address often is that all of his points, even if they are right, can be evidence of religion as a human phenomenon rather than an existential one. |
05-04-2018 08:38 PM
#2357
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If you're not embodying the mythos of the archetypal hero by metaphorically dying, then you're never gonna kill the snake man! let alone rescue your father from the underworld! |
05-04-2018 08:41 PM
#2358
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05-04-2018 08:41 PM
#2359
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05-04-2018 08:42 PM
#2360
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05-04-2018 08:45 PM
#2361
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It's Molyneux |
05-04-2018 08:46 PM
#2362
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Harris, Shapiro, Peterson, Molyneux, Thunderf00t |
05-04-2018 08:47 PM
#2363
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The Shapiro Thanksgiving was pretty hilarious too |
05-04-2018 08:49 PM
#2364
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Goo goo gaw gaw folks. fucking lol |
05-04-2018 09:51 PM
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05-04-2018 09:58 PM
#2366
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sweet frosty jesus it's almost as sick as the "because you'd be in jail" burn |
05-05-2018 12:51 AM
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05-05-2018 05:47 AM
#2368
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1 - Most people who believe in a god believe in a specific god and the attributes they assign to a specific or non-specific god can vary greatly, so it's good to start off by defining the properties of the god you're trying to argue for. I'm perfectly happy to argue against either. | |
Last edited by oskar; 05-05-2018 at 06:23 AM.
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05-05-2018 06:01 AM
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@banana | |
Last edited by oskar; 05-05-2018 at 06:20 AM.
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05-05-2018 08:32 AM
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05-05-2018 08:38 AM
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Name me one moral argument that can be derived from scripture that you could not make otherwise. | |
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05-05-2018 09:03 AM
#2372
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Separate and isolate menstruating women so you don't have to deal with their bullshit. |
05-05-2018 09:31 AM
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I would put that under immoral, as I assume would you. So if there are no moral values to be derived from scripture that you couldn't have arrived at otherwise, but there are a litany of immoral values, how can scripture be a source for moral values? | |
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05-05-2018 09:58 AM
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What do you mean by "scripture"? |
05-05-2018 10:51 AM
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I'd say these can be testable, but aren't necessarily. A god could organize components of reality that we don't detect that impact components we do detect. |
05-05-2018 10:53 AM
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Since this came about because we were discussing Peterson, he agrees with this. |
05-05-2018 10:58 AM
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It's about what "does happen". What "could happen" doesn't much help us. |
05-05-2018 11:00 AM
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05-05-2018 11:11 AM
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I think that the "problem with atheism" as described is not accurate. Taking away God doesn't mean that anything is justified in the micro sense. What it means is that some important things change in the macro sense. Peterson has explained this well elsewhere (but not the video), and it is something IIRC Harris and Dawkins have agreed with somewhat tacitly. |
05-07-2018 08:52 PM
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05-07-2018 11:12 PM
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05-07-2018 11:39 PM
#2382
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Tell me what you think instead of what somebody who has been caught misleading his audience thinks. |
05-08-2018 06:34 AM
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If you want to define god as something that doesn't reside in or interact with observable reality, then we agree on the conclusion, just not what the word exist means. To say that because religion has been around for a long time, and because of that fact alone it might have some merits, is just an argument from tradition and carries no weight. For most of human history people wore hats. Nowadays we don't wear hats nearly as much. Is it possible that hats had something to do with the prosperity of the human race. Possible. If nothing else, it created jobs in the hat industry and brought us all the beautiful and varied hat designs we know today. What doesn't follow is that we should all wear hats today. | |
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05-08-2018 06:40 AM
#2384
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05-08-2018 11:35 AM
#2385
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The problem isn't religion; it's the majority of people are too ridiculous to handle religion. | |
05-08-2018 01:19 PM
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05-08-2018 07:19 PM
#2387
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05-08-2018 08:54 PM
#2388
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I'd say that makes it worth looking into and worth considering as the default "answer" (because math) when there is not enough reason to believe anything else. But, yeah, it's not evidence. |
05-08-2018 08:56 PM
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05-08-2018 09:01 PM
#2390
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I think the natural state of humankind is the stupidity you describe. Religion could be a tool that has helped populations organize more productively. |
05-08-2018 09:05 PM
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05-09-2018 06:11 AM
#2392
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Statements like: the udssr was a humanist society or that the roman empire was secular, make me question whether you understand what those words mean, or if you know anything about the historic context or both, and secondly even if it was true, you'd still have to show causation. | |
Last edited by oskar; 05-09-2018 at 07:59 AM.
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05-09-2018 06:12 AM
#2393
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05-09-2018 09:18 PM
#2394
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Rome was a mix of secular and religious. The idea is that an increase in secularization associates with its decline. |
05-09-2018 09:24 PM
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05-10-2018 03:59 AM
#2396
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Citation needed on "The idea is that an increase in secularization associates with its decline." This certainly is not the majority opinion of historians, and it's certainly the first time I hear anything like this. | |
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05-11-2018 12:03 AM
#2397
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05-11-2018 12:12 AM
#2398
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05-11-2018 03:59 AM
#2399
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Don't worry about them being all over the place! Just give me any source that supports what you said. I will literally take anything. | |
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05-11-2018 11:35 AM
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... within the microcosm of that faith, at most | |