Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
While that is completely incomprehensible to me, it is happening. Now multiply the number of guns in a chaotic environment like a classroom, add overworked teachers who are so underfunded that they have to pay for school supplies out of pocket, and the fact that even trained police officers occasionally execute toddlers with toy guns, and you got yourself some dead kids. More dead kids than kids saved from other kids... maybe. Still not a solution that sounds effective to me. Especially not when other approaches are glaringly obvious.
Explain how it's remotely possible that accidental gun deaths could outnumber purposeful gun deaths. I mean, what the hell man??

For instance: When a kid is diagnosed by a professional to have a mental disorder/deficiency; who has made terroristic threats in his name on social media; who has been brought to the attention of the authorities - is still able to get his background check passed, buys a semi automatic weapon plus hundreds of rounds of ammunition and then stroll past the armed security officer onto the premise... how do you look at that and go: nothing to worry about here, but we better go and arm teachers because that's the obvious thing to do
You keep skimming the real target here. Ineptitude. No one wants to admit that because it means that the laws we already have are fine if they are just applied effectively. But if that's the case, we can't "take action" legislatively. That's what the left wants. Legislation against guns and gun owners. Period. That's the game here. It's not about kids. It's not about schools. It's not about mental health. it's not about safety. It's not about body count. Liberals in America HATE HATE HATEY MCHATERSON middle, red, gun owning America. Fin.

Now the left is using children to further their cause. Their entire philosophy is based on breaking people up into victimized groups, and in this case that victimized group is children. They're being portrayed as disadvantaged and vulnerable. The left is tell you that they have a nearly unanimous opinion on legislative action. And even though very few of them have even begun to understand the complex issue of gun rights, their opinion has been given unquestionable credibility. And to deny their demands, is to oppress them.

Moral blackmail.

The right can't just say "let's just do nothing". Even though that is what they want. Deep down in places they can't talk about at fundraisers they all feel that the laws already on the books are adequate. Or if they feel otherwise, it's that the laws are already too restrictive. They know that guns are not the problem. But they're stuck in this precarious state of moral blackmail where they are forced to do *something*.

What else can they say except "mental health" and "school security"? Mental health is probably the most dangerous of all solutions. I really think psychiatry knows about 2% of what's going on upstairs and the rest is just a guess. The idea that we can use legislation to read a person's thoughts and predict future actions with enough accuracy to satisfy due process and justify denying their rights is probably one of the most oppressive hells I can imagine.

School security is actually a compelling argument. Controlled points of entry could have saved many lives in Parkland. Some special kind of glass definitely DID save lives at Parkland. Schools could install more secure class room doors. There are lots of things that could be done to make schools safer. The "arming teachers" meme is another construct of the left designed to make you think Republicans are insane.

Teachers are forced to work in what are effectively soft targets. They are in just as much danger as any kid. It's legal to own and carry a gun in America. Why should the school be allowed to declare "gun free zones" where a gun-owning teacher isn't allowed to exercise his own right to protect himself? No one is talking about drafting teachers, sending them to boot camp, and training them moonlight as soldiers. All anyone is saying is "let teachers have their fucking constitutional rights!!"

Then if a school has access to an armed teacher, and wants to give that teacher a certain role in its emergency procedures, that's fine! And if that teacher asks for a little more compensation for that service....that's fine too!!