*** The Official MAGAposting thread ***

[Poopadoop]

That poopy said Americans are more concerned about Islamic terrorism than a loss of American culture to Islamic immigrants?

That sounds right to me. Ong's sense of the importance of culture is really weird to me.

8...9...10

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[Poopadoop]

So Ong, are you going to admit that:

1. Trump actually intended Mexico to pay up front for the Wall; and

2. You can't explain how one country could pay for another country's building project 'economically' through tariffs or whatever else you vaguely remember Wuf saying before he went over to r_thedonald full time?

[OngBonga]

1. Of course he didn't expect Mexico to pay up front. What Trump actually meant is anyone's guess. Why do you care? I don't. It's of no consequence to me. That's why I pay it little attention, and that's why I wasn't aware of conversations he had with Pablo.

2. You think I remember what wuf was blabbering about? I can tell you that trade and economics is in neither of our areas of expertise.I think I have a better idea of how politicians work though. You expect honesty.

[spoonitnow]

1. Trump actually intended Mexico to pay up front for the Wall; and

It was a campaign line that got him elected. That was its only purpose.

[OngBonga]

It was a campaign line that got him elected. That was its only purpose.

Yeah, like "lock her up".

I don't think anyone seriously thought that was really going to happen.

[Poopadoop]

He's on the phone with Nieto and the first thing Pena says is 'we're not paying for the Wall.' So obviously the question had come up before.

[Poopadoop]

1. Why do you care? I don't.

Back when the convo started I said it was a dumb thing to say, that Mexico would pay for the Wall. And you said 'hurr durr, he meant economically.' And now you're busted and you're saying 'hurr durr I don't care'. lol, whatever man.

2. No, I can't explain that. However,

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fyp

[Poopadoop]

It was a campaign line that got him elected. That was its only purpose.

If that were the case, Pena would not have been on the phone with him explicitly repeating 'we're not paying for your Wall, Mr. President.'

[Poopadoop]

lol, and people are still contributing to this after the guy got caught buying himself a yacht. Lmfao at these retards.

https://uk.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall

Oh wait,they claim to have built 2300 feet of wall now. So what only 4999.6 miles to go?

[spoonitnow]

It was a campaign line that got him elected. That was its only purpose.

I'll elaborate on this point a bit here instead of putting in an edit that will probably be missed due to new posts. I have two things to say, one of which is from a strategic heaven/"above the fray" perspective and the other of which is on a policy/action level.

........

On a strategic heaven/"above the fray" level:

If we look at the primaries alone, Trump beat out 12+ of the top candidates that the Republican Party had to offer despite having virtually no experience with politics. What he does have the most experience with is marketing, and that is what he used to win.

The entire group of Republican names he was against were as boring as watching paint dry. None of them would have rallied the base sufficiently to beat Hillary Clinton, who was by far the most prolific politician in the entire race and probably the most prolific US politician of our time (possibly of the entire history of the country) to never win a presidential race.

No matter what people think of his policies (or lack thereof), there is no denying that his win was absolutely impressive.

........

On a policy/action level:

For me personally, I love how much the MAGA agenda triggers the fuck out of people and makes them go absolutely insane. I will play this up to a tremendous degree because I enjoy the responses it gets.

All of that aside, Trump won because of the policy he put forward and represented having on immigration. The so-called "Muslim ban" was a good step in the direction of following what he's said with action, but it pretty much stopped there.

The people who voted for Trump, in general, want a much stricter set of criteria used for accepting refugees, federal funding cut for sanctuary cities, a wall built, illegal immigrants rounded up and deported. He was the first person to really tackle the immigration issue head-on in his campaign, and that focus combined with what I wrote above on a strategic level are why he won.

The problem is that he has dropped the ball in terms of action. Republicans had the thing locked up, and it was never pressed like it should have been.

If he loses reelection, then it will primarily be because the base doesn't show up because of the lack of action on the immigration issue.

[spoonitnow]

If that were the case, Pena would not have been on the phone with him explicitly repeating 'we're not paying for your Wall, Mr. President.'

Pena is a politician as well. He's also not the brightest crayon in the box, bless his heart.

[Poopadoop]

No matter what people think of his policies (or lack thereof), there is no denying that his win was absolutely impressive.

It's actually more impressive that Hillary managed to lose to him, given how unpopular he was. You can argue that Hillary was a really strong candidate because she was 'prolific' (whatever you mean by that, I guess 'high profile, experienced?'), but aside from that she had nothing. No new ideas, barely dragged herself out in public, spent half the time she was in public fainting or rolling her eyes at balloons.

A fairly large proportion of people who voted for her weren't thinking 'yay Hillary' but instead 'boo Trump.' That would certainly have been my sentiment had I been a voter.

And a lot of people who voted for Trump also would have voted for anyone who wasn't Hillary, including Bernie.

The 2016 election was like no other in recent history inasmuch as it was basically an unpopularity contest, and Hillary won by a few thousand votes in the rust belt. Trump made it close by being Trump, but seriously, anyone decent could have beat either Hillary or Trump to a pulp.

[Poopadoop]

Pena is a politician as well. He's also not the brightest crayon in the box, bless his heart.

Seriously thinking about starting a thread where people reply to every previous post with a non-sequitur.

[Poopadoop]

btw, if being prolific was important to being elected POTUS, there's a lot of people who should never have won their election - e.g., Obama.

[Poopadoop]

For me personally, I love how much the MAGA agenda triggers the fuck out of people and makes them go absolutely insane. I will play this up to a tremendous degree because I enjoy the responses it gets.

You send any halfway controversial message to enough people and at least 5% of them will freak out. But then again, 5% of people will lose their shit playing a MMORPG too. There's probably some gene that controls that lol.

[Poopadoop]

I'm halfway hoping Kamala Harris gets the D nomination now just to watch her completely wipe the debate floor with Trump's fat orange ass. She wouldn't just sit there and smirk and be all 'oh Donald' like Hillary was, she'd fucking take him apart lol.

[Poopadoop]

And in case you didn't read that link I posted, here's Trump directly telling Nieto Mexico has to pay for the Wall.

The only thing I will ask you though is on the wall, you and I both have a political problem. My people stand up and say, “Mexico will pay for the wall” and your people probably say something in a similar but slightly different language. But the fact is we are both in a little bit of a political bind because I have to have Mexico pay for the wall – I have to. I have been talking about it for a two year period, and the reason I say they are going to pay for the wall is because Mexico has made a fortune out of the stupidity of U.S. trade representatives. They are beating us at trade and they are beating us at the border, and they are killing us with drugs. Now I know you are not involved with that, but regardless of who is making all the money, billions and billions and billions – some people say more – is being made on drug trafficking that is coming through Mexico. Some people say that the business of drug trafficking is bigger than the business of taking our factory jobs. So what I would like to recommend is – if we are going to have continued dialogue – we will work out the wall. They are going to say, “who is going to pay for the wall, Mr. President?” to both of us, and we should both say, “we will work it out.” It will work out in the formula somehow. As opposed to you saying, “we will not pay” and me saying, “we will not pay.”

Because you and I are both at a point now where we are both saying we are not to pay for the wall. From a political standpoint, that is what we will say. We cannot say that anymore because if you are going to say that Mexico is not going to pay for the wall, then I do not want to meet with you guys anymore because I cannot live with that.

[spoonitnow]

Seriously thinking about starting a thread where people reply to every previous post with a non-sequitur.

If you think this was a non-sequitur, then I'm not sure what to tell you.

Pena had to give a politician's answer to save face and look like he was doing something against big bad daddy Trump no matter if he believed the whole mess or not.

And in case you didn't read that link I posted, here's Trump directly telling Nieto Mexico has to pay for the Wall.

You're thinking on too low of a level with this.

[Poopadoop]

If you think this was a non-sequitur, then I'm not sure what to tell you.

Pena had to give a politician's answer to save face and look like he was doing something against big bad daddy Trump no matter if he believed the whole mess or not.



You're thinking on too low of a level with this.

No, you're thinking on too high of a level. You're ascribing a level of sophistication to their discussion that wasn't there. Trump told him he needed Mexico to pay for the Wall or they wouldn't negotiate any further on a trade deal, and Pena said what any ratonal person would say: no, sorry, not happening sir.

You can argue that Trump can't actually be that stupid, so it must be some 3D chess game he's playing, but the reality is he really can be that stupid. He's been that stupid before and he'll in all likelihood be that stupid again.

[spoonitnow]

Oh yes, the ol, "He's stupided his way into the White House," line.

[Poopadoop]

More like he conned his way into the WH.

He is stupid in nearly every single way excepting marketing.

Or maybe you think he smarted his way into losiing a billion dollars in ten years.

[Poopadoop]

And anyways, let's say Trump is really being a master negotiator in that convo, and poor stupid Pena is just falling for it by refusing to sign a cheque for the Wall. What's the endgame supposed to be here? Where is the great deal that America got from that? Congress still hasn't ratified the USMCA, and probably won't now the Ds control the house. Fucking pointless.

[Poopadoop]

Build a Wall! Make America pay for it!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/londo...avan-1.5195399

Insulin prices in the United States nearly doubled to an average annual cost of $5,705 US in 2016 from $2,864 in 2012, according to a study in January.

Quinn Nystrom, a leader of T1International's Minnesota chapter, said in May that the price in the U.S. of insulin per vial was $320 US, while in Canada the same medication under a different name was $30.

That is fucking ridiculous.

[oskar]

On one hand it is ridiculous to have the free market do its thing with drugs that people need to live... on the other hand, americans... do we need 'em?
I am starting to warm up to Kamala Harris. Not only will she wipe the debate floor with Trump, but she also won't do shit about healthcare. So you get a cool american president, but also lots of dead americans from preventable causes. So it's a win-win!

[Poopadoop]

Trump's got more important things to do than address healthcare, like triggering libs on social media. Priorities!

lol, bringing up Wuf today reminded me of that time before the election when he was quoting that Dilbert guy as saying something like Trump tries to look bad on purpose so when he starts acting normal he'll look great by comparison. I guess he's still waiting for the right moment to execute part 2 of that plan lol.

[Jack Sawyer]

Build a Wall! Make America pay for it!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/londo...avan-1.5195399



That is fucking ridiculous.

All the while the Coca Cola Company makes sure demand for insulin in the US remains high af.

[OngBonga]

On one hand it is ridiculous to have the free market do its thing with drugs that people need to live... on the other hand, americans... do we need 'em?
I am starting to warm up to Kamala Harris. Not only will she wipe the debate floor with Trump, but she also won't do shit about healthcare. So you get a cool american president, but also lots of dead americans from preventable causes. So it's a win-win!

Orange man bad. Also, haha dead Americans. What's the opposite of virtue signalling, where you show the world your deep personality flaws while judging others?

[oskar]

I believe I have been staunchly consistent on this. I prefer the people responsible for a fatal stupidity to be the victims of that stupidity. If there was a way to take the fatalities caused by american missiles in Yemen and transfer that death toll to the US, I'd play that card faster than you could say 'Isn't that still genocide!'

You can argue about the morals of this, but I don't think it's flawed in the sense that it is consistent with my moral philosophy.

You also seem to think that ones moral outrage about a thing ought to be informed by ones proximity to it. I don't think you've explained why.

[Poopadoop]

I was wondering when this would happen after her performance in the debate.

[oskar]

What does that even mean? She was playing the black card to describe why busing was a personal issue for her, which Biden opposed and she got Biden to stumble into saying he merely supported states rights. *slow clap*
And that was somehow illegitimate because she's not the right kind of black? Wut?

Oh yeah, and we got Trump saying “Well, [busing is] something that they’ve done for a long period of time. You know, there aren’t that many ways you’re going to get people to schools… It is certainly a primary method of getting people to schools,”
I didn't know what busing was when I heard her say it, but it was clear from the context that it was different from my understanding, so I googled it, and 30 seconds later I knew what she was talking about. How can you say that this man is not retarded? How does a non-retarded person think that Harris was just being weirdly invested in riding on the bus?
That and thinking that "western liberalism" is liberals on the west coast. Come on!

[oskar]

https://twitter.com/ScottHech/status...090443776?s=20

I would love to know what republicans would think of this if roles were reversed. Some men are emotional wrecks.

[Poopadoop]

Oh yeah, and we got Trump saying “Well, [busing is] something that they’ve done for a long period of time. You know, there aren’t that many ways you’re going to get people to schools… It is certainly a primary method of getting people to schools,”

How can you say that this man is not retarded?

I thought wuf made this clear in 2016. He's pretending to be a total retard on purpose. Sometime before the end of his life, when the time is right, he will start acting not-retarded, and everyone will think he's way smarter than they gave him credit for. Just wait and see! 3D chess ftw!

[spoonitnow]

Kamala Harris is a joke who sucked dick to get to where she is in politics. Her qualifications end at having a vagina. She's like all the worst parts of Obama and Hillary mixed in one.

[spoonitnow]

https://twitter.com/ScottHech/status...090443776?s=20

I would love to know what republicans would think of this if roles were reversed. Some men are emotional wrecks.

It's good politics to not let someone break the rules just because they're a woman with a sob story about some guy who was homeless for decades being glad he got welfare.

[Poopadoop]

Kamala Harris is a joke who sucked dick to get to where she is in politics. Her qualifications end at having a vagina. She's like all the worst parts of Obama and Hillary mixed in one.

I'm so triggered!!!

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Oh wait, I missed the part where she's not qualified. So, what does it take to qualify?

[Poopadoop]

Speaking of lacking qualifications.

Starting at 3.30



"Hey guys...guys...guys?"

[oskar]

She's like all the worst parts of Obama and Hillary mixed in one.

Which parts would that be?

Speaking of lacking qualifications.

I wonder if she can't feel shame, or if she's so desensitized from living in hellworld her entire life that she simply pushes through it effortlessly.

[spoonitnow]

I'm not hot on Ivanka. I'm a bigger fan of Tiffany. That bitch keeps it real.

[oskar]

https://twitter.com/Channel4News/sta...425920000?s=20

Well fuck me, Ong was right, this actually is about fish & chips.

[Poopadoop]

Damn, that Revolutionary Army was better than I thought. They even took over the airports from the British!

[oskar]

Around the 15s mark he realizes that this is way above his reading level and just starts to riff.

[oskar]

[oskar]

It's the golden age of debate.

https://twitter.com/RationalDis/stat...251336192?s=20

[OngBonga]

- sees new post, first for days
- notes it's oskar
- predicts it's related to Trump
- feels smug

[Poopadoop]

- sees new post, first for days
- notes it's oskar
- predicts it's related to Trump
- feels smug

This is the MAGA thread. Do you feel smug when you look at a poker thread and see a post about poker too?

[oskar]

You're like this guy, only that it's not just any car crash, it's a clown car that crashed into a nazi parade and there's a carousel and cotton candy and Trump's the president. Fuck no, I'm not going to look away, it's the greatest show on earth!

[oskar]

She looks like she dolled herself up with Homer Simpsons makeup shotgun that morning.

[oskar]

Just today Epstein was arrested on sex trafficking charges that he was previously cleared on. Epstein literally raped and kidnapped children. He got an illegal non-prosecution agreement that allowed him not to name co-conspirators. Alexander Acosta who was the federal prosecutor overseeing the case at the time, and who let Epstein off with house arrest... for the rape and kidnapping of children, is now the Trump appointed Secretary of Labor. Trump is now named as a potential witness in the Epstein case.

The clown car has no brakes!

[OngBonga]

You're like this guy...

Am I fuck. That's a German speaking in English. In Germany. The man has no shame. You wouldn't hear me speaking in German, not unless I'm ordering beer. Einen weissbier bitte danke dat ist gut ja. All the German one needs to politely get about in Germany.

Who the fuck takes photos of a crash anyway? I can understand rubbernecking, it's hard to not look for a dead body as you drive past the scene of an accident. But to take photos? The fuck is wrong with people?

[Poopadoop]

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Who the fuck takes photos of a crash anyway? I can understand rubbernecking, it's hard to not look for a dead body as you drive past the scene of an accident. But to take photos? The fuck is wrong with people?

I agree, that's fucked up.

[Poopadoop]

She looks like she dolled herself up with Homer Simpsons makeup shotgun that morning.

lol

"Oh no, I had it set to whore!"

[OngBonga]

According to witnesses and sources, about a dozen FBI agents broke down the door to Epstein’s Manhattan townhouse with search warrants.

What do they make search warrants out of in America? The same thing they make passports out of?

[OngBonga]

Let's play word association. I'll start.

Trump.

[oskar]

What do they make search warrants out of in America? The same thing they make passports out of?

solid joke.

You know... I hope that one day I will find someone who loves me the way pedophiles love child pornography.

Apparently they found nude photographs of kids at Epstein's mansion. How invincible do you have to feel to be a convicted pedophile who had a NYT cover story written about how he got off on child sex trafficking charges through an illegal non-prosecution agreement in the past 6 months and you still hold on to your kiddie porn.

If Trump comments on Epstein do you guys think he'll go with "I barely knew him;" "He was treated very unfairly" or will he straight up admit they ran a train on 13yo's, thereby boosting his ratings by 5-10 points.

[Poopadoop]

Costume is shit and voice is pretty grating, but those lyrics are top drawer.

[Poopadoop]

btw, thumbs and big toes up to whoever first gave her the name 'Nepotism Barbie'

[Poopadoop]

If Trump comments on Epstein do you guys think he'll go with "I barely knew him;" "He was treated very unfairly" or will he straight up admit they ran a train on 13yo's, thereby boosting his ratings by 5-10 points.

"He was just a coffee boy."

[oskar]

FUCK! He went with "not a fan"... what a curveball
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/u...p-epstein.html
I like how the NYT casually includes a story of Trump hosting a party for nobody but him, Epstein and "28 girls" in response to Trump saying he wasn't a fan.

Genius trolling, or disability? Impossible to tell!
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1...050531840?s=20

[oskar]

Any investigation into what happened during the Acosta/Epstein deal should look into what the fuck is happening in that house.

[Poopadoop]

FUCK! He went with "not a fan"... what a curveball
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/u...p-epstein.html
I like how the NYT casually includes a story of Trump hosting a party for nobody but him, Epstein and "28 girls" in response to Trump saying he wasn't a fan.

Genius trolling, or disability? Impossible to tell!
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1...050531840?s=20

To paraphrase, he really said "I'm not a fan, ok? I like perverts who DON'T get caught."

[Poopadoop]

Any investigation into what happened during the Acosta/Epstein deal should look into what the fuck is happening in that house.

damn those are three of the most inbred- looking females I've ever seen. MAGA for sure.

[spoonitnow]

Honk honk

[OngBonga]

Honk honk

You fucking Nazi.

[oskar]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...078000643?s=20

This is not a Trump tweet, is it? How is nobody talking about how he stays on subject for three consecutive tweets, uses "viciously" as an adjective, which has way too many esses to be active Trump vocabulary, and uses suspiciously correct grammar like "from which they came"

Is Steven Miller writing tweets for Trump?

[spoonitnow]

Translation: Get your ass back in the kitchen

[oskar]

America was born with a congenital illness and it has been in need of active rehabilitation ever since, although it has often rejected the curative treatments and regressed.

Challenging America to own its sins and live up to its ideals isn’t a vicious attack, it’s an act of patriotism. As James Baldwin once put it, “I love America more than any other country in this world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually.”

And, who better to lead the charge than four women who represent the future face of America.

But, Trump — and many of his supporters and defenders — spew their racism and tell themselves that it is perfectly acceptable when it is read back to them, in much the same way that a dog will eat its own vomit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/14/o...er-racism.html

[spoonitnow]

Blah blah everything's racist blah blah

[Poopadoop]

This should be good...

[spoonitnow]

"They can't stop us all!"

lol yes they can

[Poopadoop]

"Any attempt to illegally access military areas or installations is dangerous."

~ Captain Obvious.

[oskar]

He spelled Al Qaeda 'Alcaida' and people 'peopel.'
Nvm that apparently he needs bullet points for his geriatric ramblings.

[Poopadoop]

Clearly this Hicks was super qualified for her job.

Only the best people.

#MAGA

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/07/kee...andal-go-away/

[Poopadoop]

Burn!

https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/sta...60948824707073

[spoonitnow]

Hope Hicks is hot af

[oskar]

https://twitter.com/TheNationalUAE/s...145562626?s=20

I'm curious how this fits into the genius manipulator theory.