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  1. #5326
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Jesus wept oskar, get you grammar right while discussing banana's high IQ.
    Cut him some slack. His first language is Austrian, which is only 20% English.
  2. #5327
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Cut him some slack. His first language is Austrian, which is only 20% English.
    American is only 10% English and I'm cutting banana no slack.
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  3. #5328
    Is Oskar Austrian? I thought he was Finnish. Don't they speak Hungarian there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Cut him some slack. His first language is Austrian, which is only 20% English.
    also: not a language

    But I don't like to brag about my handicap. I'm fine with being corrected, even if you have to start it off with "lol u so dum"
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  5. #5330
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    American is only 10% English and I'm cutting banana no slack.
    You sound like an eggball player who's been hit on the noggin too many times in the scrum when you talk like that.
  6. #5331
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    You sound like an eggball player who's been hit on the noggin too many times in the scrum when you talk like that.
    I've never been in a scrum. I was dropped on my noggin when I was a baby.
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  7. #5332
    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    also: not a language
    Fine, dialect of German used by some mountain folk.


    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    But I don't like to brag about my handicap. I'm fine with being corrected, even if you have to start it off with "lol u so dum"
    You spelled 'college' as 'colleague'

    p.s. then you spelled 'dumb' wrong

    pps. Also I'll think you'll find that 'y-o-u' is the correct spelling of that word.
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  8. #5333
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Is Oskar Austrian? I thought he was Finnish. Don't they speak Hungarian there?
    I think it's Cocobill who is Finnish.

    Finnish and Hungarian are the only two European languages that originate in Asia. Fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    pps. Also I'll think you'll find that 'y-o-u' is the correct spelling of that word.
    THAT'S NOT GRAMMAR!
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  10. #5335
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post

    Finnish and Hungarian are the only two European languages that originate in Asia. Fact.
    Actually I should qualify that. They're the only two European languages that don't have a proven Indo-european origin.

    It's possible they were brought here by aliens.
  11. #5336
    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    THAT'S NOT GRAMMAR!
    Do you want my help or not, Hapsburg Boy?
  12. #5337
    Whoever brought up grammar needs to find a dictionary and learn the difference between grammar and spelling - so I'm going to assume that was banana.
  13. #5338
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Whoever brought up grammar needs to find a dictionary and learn the difference between grammar and spelling - so I'm going to assume that was banana.
    Grammar refers to the entire structure of written language. That includes spelling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Grammar refers to the entire structure of written language. That includes spelling.
    https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/grammar

    Not according to these guys.

    I heard banana has a dictionary he's not using if you need one.
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    But that would also include Ong's wrong usage of the word grammar, so checkmate!
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  16. #5341
    Just because the internet agrees with poop, doesn't make him right.
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  17. #5342
    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    But that would also include Ong's wrong usage of the word grammar, so checkmate!
    Damn you Franz Ferdinand!!
  18. #5343
    Hey Oskar, if Vienna in German is called Wien, does that mean people from there are called Wieners?

    Asking for a friend.
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    Didn't Kenedy make that whistle-stop tour where he went to the funniest German cities and said stuff like,
    "Ich bin ein Berliner" -> I am a donut
    "Ich bin ein Frankfurter" -> I am a hotdog
    "Ich bin ein Wiener" -> I am a sausage
    "Ich bin ein Hamburger" -> I am a ground beef sandwich.

    Best subtle comedy routine by a president that I ever made up.
    Except I didn't make up the first one.
    And I bastardized the rest of the idea from Eddie Izzard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Just because the internet agrees with poop, doesn't make him right.
    I've found dozens of online sources that confirm that's exactly what it means.
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  21. #5346
    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    "Ich bin ein Berliner" -> I am a donut.
    I never understood how this is wrong.

    Ich - I
    bin - I assume this means 'am'
    ein - one
    Berliner - someone from Berlin

    Where did JFK go wrong? And more importantly, is this why the Kaiser had him bumped off?
  22. #5347
    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    D
    "Ich bin ein Frankfurter" -> I am a hotdog.
    There's two Frankfurts, so technically he would have to be clear whether he was a hotdog on the Rhein or a hotdog on the Oder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Hey Oskar, if Vienna in German is called Wien, does that mean people from there are called Wieners?

    Asking for a friend.
    Wiener is both singular and plural.
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  24. #5349
    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I've found dozens of online sources that confirm that's exactly what it means.
    That was as close as I come to saying "I guess I was wrong".

    Not that I was wrong. If anything I merely misremembered. But poop was definitely not right, however you try to spin it.
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  25. #5350
    Oskar, do people in Austria who drive German cars tend to be bad drivers?
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  26. #5351
    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    Wiener is both singular and plural.
    Don't bore me with your grammar, Mozart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    I never understood how this is wrong.

    Ich - I
    bin - I assume this means 'am'
    ein - one
    Berliner - someone from Berlin

    Where did JFK go wrong? And more importantly, is this why the Kaiser had him bumped off?
    All of those translation assumptions are correct. Nicely done.

    It's a syntax error. He used English syntax instead of German syntax.

    If he wanted to say, "I am a Berliner (person from Berlin)," he should have said, "Ich bin Berliner." Then, Berliner is an adjective describing "I." By saying, "a Berliner," he's indicating that Berliner is a noun. Unfortunate for him that there's a popular donut in Germany called a Berliner. Comically hilarious for the rest of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    That was as close as I come to saying "I guess I was wrong".

    Not that I was wrong. If anything I merely misremembered. But poop was definitely not right, however you try to spin it.
    Whoosh.
    The joke was that I did online research to see if "the internet agrees" is indication of "being right," and that the internet agrees that if the internet agrees, it means they're right.

    Now that I've explained it, you may lol at your leisure, secure in the funniness of the joke I told being truly funny, and not just amusing in a ridiculously nerdy kind of way.

    see?
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    ​No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    There's two Frankfurts, so technically he would have to be clear whether he was a hotdog on the Rhein or a hotdog on the Oder.
    Clearly Kennedy's 3d chess is beyond your IQs. He was showing his linguistic prowess by making a pun.


    Lol. Oder sounds like odor. The smelly river.
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  31. #5356
    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    All of those translation assumptions are correct. Nicely done.

    It's a syntax error. He used English syntax instead of German syntax.

    If he wanted to say, "I am a Berliner (person from Berlin)," he should have said, "Ich bin Berliner." Then, Berliner is an adjective describing "I." By saying, "a Berliner," he's indicating that Berliner is a noun. Unfortunate for him that there's a popular donut in Germany called a Berliner. Comically hilarious for the rest of us.
    berliner.jpg

    That is not a donut. That is a Bismark.

    Still funny though.
  32. #5357
    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Clearly Kennedy's 3d chess is beyond your IQs.
    I heard that's what got Kruschev to turn the boats with the nukes around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    It's a syntax error. He used English syntax instead of German syntax.

    If he wanted to say, "I am a Berliner (person from Berlin)," he should have said, "Ich bin Berliner." Then, Berliner is an adjective describing "I." By saying, "a Berliner," he's indicating that Berliner is a noun. Unfortunate for him that there's a popular donut in Germany called a Berliner. Comically hilarious for the rest of us.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ich_bi...2_urban_legend
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    That link affirms the quote is correct. (not a misquote or anything)

    In the meat of the debunking, it says, "According to some grammar texts [...]"
    Well maybe, but I'm assuming that according to other grammar texts, other things are said.

    Besides, I'm not really trying to be a German grammar expert. Just relaying what I learned in my high school German class. If it was bunk, then fine, I'll drop it.
    It doesn't really appear to be bunk, though. The quote is correct, and at least sometimes, the analysis is correct, so it's a fun little conversation piece.
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    I don't really know what the rule is, but if you relate to yourself it doesn't make a difference whether or not you use a pronoun. If you were to use Berliner as an adjective you definitely need a pronoun. Idk if it's colloquial or if there's an exception, but it doesn't change the meaning - it's both the same as "I am a..."
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  36. #5361
    Are you saying that to call yourself a donut, you'd have to say "Ich bin ein donuter mann?"
  37. #5362
    https://www.vox.com/2019/5/10/185241...at-rick-reilly

    Virtue — who wouldn’t speak to me directly, but the story was reported by Golf.com and I confirmed it through two other members of the club — was playing with his kid, who I think is 10 or 11 years old. He [Trump] sees Ted on the 9th hole and decides to drive his cart over there. He tells Ted: Congrats on winning the club championship, but you didn’t really win it because I was out of town.

    Ted tries to laugh it off, but Trump is dead serious. Trump says, “We’re going to play these last six holes for the championship.” And Ted’s like, “I’m playing with my son, but thanks anyway.” But Trump says, “No, your son can play too.” So they end up playing.

    They get to a hole with a big pond on it. Both Ted and his son hit the ball on the green, and Trump hits his in the water. By the time they get to the hole, Trump is lining up the kid’s ball. Only now it’s his ball and the caddie has switched it. The kid’s like, “Daddy, that’s my ball.”

    But Trump’s caddie goes, “No, this is the president’s ball; your ball went in the water.” Ted and his son look at each other confused, not sure if this is really happening. And Trump’s caddie says, “This is the president’s ball. I don’t know what to tell you.”

    Trump makes that putt, wins one up, and declares himself the club champion.
  38. #5363
    I wonder what Ted did to piss off Trump
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  40. #5365
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    I wonder what Ted did to piss off Trump
    baby trump.jpg

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  41. #5366
    What's you're point? That Trump is a bully?

    So what?
  42. #5367
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    What's you're point? That Trump is a bully?

    So what?
    Is that what you get from this story?

    Try something more like the most powerful man in the world is such a little baby that he can't let someone else be club champion, so he cheats to win.

  43. #5368
    How do you know that the caddie isn't secretly helping Trump win without telling Trump?
  44. #5369
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    How do you know that the caddie isn't secretly helping Trump win without telling Trump?
    lol. So everyone else can see Trump's ball go in the water but him?

    Read the whole article, there's other examples in there. The guy wrote a whole book about it ffs.
  45. #5370
    Have you tried posting the image address in [img] tags?
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  46. #5371
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Have you tried posting the image address in [img] tags?
    I don't understand, sorry. What is a tag?

    I'm old.
  47. #5372
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Read the whole article, there's other examples in there. The guy wrote a whole book about it ffs.
    Why would I? What's in there that I care about? Am I going to learn something I didn't already know about Trump before I voted for him??

    That's what I don't get about you lefties. You keep thinking that you point to some off-color behavior from Trump and say "ZOMG look at what a scumbag he is", as though that actually matters to anyone.

    Is there someone in politics, or in the elite strata of media, business or academia, that you believe is not a total phony, liar, self-absorbed, egomaniacal, power-hungry, corrupt slimeball....then I'll happily consider his/her platform for president. Until then, I'll keep flipping this big orange bird at the ruling class.

    I'm fucking glad he cheats at golf and I'm glad it pisses you off.

    #MAGA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    I don't understand, sorry. What is a tag?

    I'm old.
    The "tags" you put around a string of text to tell the forum that you don't want it to be normal text, for example, [quote] tags, or [b] tags for bold...

    Don't forget to close the tags with [/img]
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    <img>enter image address here</img>

    also, replace <> with []
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    Ah gotcha, thanks.

    So image address means URL? There's a separate option for posting from a URL but I don't want to post an entire page.
  51. #5376
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Why would I? What's in there that I care about? Am I going to learn something I didn't already know about Trump before I voted for him??

    That's what I don't get about you lefties. You keep thinking that you point to some off-color behavior from Trump and say "ZOMG look at what a scumbag he is", as though that actually matters to anyone.

    Is there someone in politics, or in the elite strata of media, business or academia, that you believe is not a total phony, liar, self-absorbed, egomaniacal, power-hungry, corrupt slimeball....then I'll happily consider his/her platform for president. Until then, I'll keep flipping this big orange bird at the ruling class.

    I'm fucking glad he cheats at golf and I'm glad it pisses you off.

    #MAGA
    You're the only one pissed off here.

    I just posted a funny story about what a loser Trump is for people to laugh at. You're the one who got all triggered by it.
  52. #5377
    Here's another funny article. See if you get it

    https://www.irishnews.com/business/2...lake--1426804/
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    I'm fucking glad
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    You're the only one pissed off here.
    Who are you even talking to?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Ah gotcha, thanks.

    So image address means URL? There's a separate option for posting from a URL but I don't want to post an entire page.
    Image address is the url that ends in the image's extension, commonly .jpeg, .jpg, .gif or .png.

    Example (quote this post to see the code)



    *Bonus: when you upload it to imgur.com, choose the "Get share links" option, then copy/paste the "BBCode" variety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Ah gotcha, thanks.

    So image address means URL? There's a separate option for posting from a URL but I don't want to post an entire page.
    Sort of, I mean if you right click an image you can "copy image address", which is the URL location of the image. If you post that in [img] tags, it'll post the image, while you can also post it in [url] tags and leave a clickable link to the image.
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    If you're "posting an entire page", then I assume you're copying a really long string, which is not the image location, that's probably the google images thumbnail location. Click the thumbnail to go to the proper image, and get that location instead. It should be a simple URL address, not a ridiculous string.
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    For example...

    <img>https://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/image.php?u=58355&dateline=1460682783</img>


    <url>https://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/image.php?u=58355&dateline=1460682783</url>
    https://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerf...ine=1460682783

    obviously the <> should be [], ie [img]
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Is there someone in politics, or in the elite strata of media, business or academia, that you believe is not a total phony, liar, self-absorbed, egomaniacal, power-hungry, corrupt slimeball....then I'll happily consider his/her platform for president. Until then, I'll keep flipping this big orange bird at the ruling class.
    Bernie Sanders, Tulsi Gabbard.
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    Ben Shapiro gets triggered by a few simple questions, goes full snowflake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Omg I missed that! That is too funny.
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    He actually did it! Trump is the first open borders president! I love reading the comments. This is amazing. They're blaming random democrats who have no say in this whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    Omg I missed that! That is too funny.
    I applaud the guy. I mean, if you're gonna do a scam, who's the most gullible group of people to set as your target? Trump supporters!

    Kolfage apparently still claims he's gonna build the wall. I guess he wants to keep those donations coming!
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    You shouldn't applaud him. You're basically saying it's ok to commit criminal fraud if the target is someone you don't like. That's not exactly taking the moral high ground, is it?

    Does this not expose your hypocrisy? I mean, you're at the point where you hate a man so much due to his moral positions that you're willing to overlook criminal acts against his supporters. You are deeming Trump supporters as acceptable victims of crime.

    You're abandoning morality to protest morality.

    Hypocrisy defined.
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  65. #5390
    lol lighten up
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    You're welcome. I know you don't want to come across as a hypocrite, I'm happy to help you not be one. If you want to critisise people in high office for their lack of morality, you kind of have to not be lacking in morality yourself.

    Obviously you don't think it's ok to commit fraud against people you don't like. But when you pretend you do, I'll pretend to be outraged about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    You shouldn't applaud him. You're basically saying it's ok to commit criminal fraud if the target is someone you don't like. That's not exactly taking the moral high ground, is it?

    Does this not expose your hypocrisy? I mean, you're at the point where you hate a man so much due to his moral positions that you're willing to overlook criminal acts against his supporters. You are deeming Trump supporters as acceptable victims of crime.

    You're abandoning morality to protest morality.

    Hypocrisy defined.
    It is not just that I don't like them, it's that I think they are morally vapid and they happened to step into a honeypot guided by their own hatred and stupidity. And by the way... how are you raising objection now, when I literally said I would jack on their corpses AT LEAST TWICE on this very message board! The mind, it boggles.

    I think it is an interesting thing to talk about on the basis of morality, if you actually want that argument. I think it's actually pretty tough for my side... but it will probably be just us. MMM stopped talking to me when I called him an uppity cunt, which btw... if you call someone uppity, you have to necessarily follow it up with cunt. How are you serving any function at a university and not know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Obviously you don't think it's ok to commit fraud against people you don't like. But when you pretend you do, I'll pretend to be outraged about it.
    And I'll pretend to react to you like I would react to any other pretedn triggered snowflake: by pretending to tell you to chill.
  69. #5394
    To be fair, though, that's a pretty clever scam (as morally reprehensible as it is).

    First, it's not even plausible that they'll ever raise enough money, so you have to be pretty stupid in the first place to donate money to a hopeless cause. Second, the Kolfage guy has made PT Barnum look like an amateur here. If you asked yourself, "Who can I scam for money?", the typical options would be a) the elderly; b) the religious; c) the greedy; or d) desperately ill people looking for a cure. The genius here is that he went right outside the playbook and picked e) idiots.

    Then he had to find a group of idiots who would fall for a scam. That was actually the easy part, as it was pretty hard not to notice how many people had voted Trump in 2016.

    And like all good stories, it came full circle: You have idiots voting in a scam artist who promised them Mexico would pay for the Wall, and then when that fell through, those same idiots were specifically targeted by another scam artist to get them to pay for the Wall because they showed themselves gullible enough to fall for the first scam artist.

    And in the end, all they bought was a yacht for a scam artist.

    Sometime in the next fifty years, they will make a movie about this. Or at least they should.
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    ... makes you wonder what other morally passable ways there are to milk far right populism while it's still hot.
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  71. #5396
    Quote Originally Posted by oskar
    how are you raising objection now, when I literally said I would jack on their corpses AT LEAST TWICE on this very message board! The mind, it boggles.
    I don't read everything. Yeah I know, shit mod.

    I saw was poop fistpumping fraud. I like arguing with poop, I read his posts more than yours.

    which btw... if you call someone uppity, you have to necessarily follow it up with cunt.
    idk, fucknugget works pretty well there, too.

    it's that I think they are morally vapid and they happened to step into a honeypot guided by their own hatred and stupidity
    Morally vapid people don't deserve to be fucked over by other morally vapid people. If you actually believe that, than how are you not morally vapid? I just used the word "vapid" three times without actually knowing what it means. I'll assume "bereft". Google says nope. Vapid means bland? Morally bland? Bereft is a better word, it means lacking.

    Morally bereft people don't deserve to be fucked over by other morally bereft people. They deserve to be fucked over by the justice system.
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  72. #5397
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Google says nope. Vapid means bland? Morally bland? Bereft is a better word, it means lacking.

    Morally bereft people don't deserve to be fucked over by other morally bereft people. They deserve to be fucked over by the justice system.
    Looks like the "grammar" police are back. Watch your step, Mozart!
  73. #5398
    Fuck's sake you're so fucking left wing you won't even call me a grammar Nazi.
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    ongies gonna ong
  74. #5399
    Also, calling an Austrian "Mozart" is surely racist? Sorry, xenophobic. What if I called you Pedro?
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    ongies gonna ong
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I saw was poop fistpumping fraud. I like arguing with poop, I read his posts more than yours.
    oof ouch my feelings

    idk, fucknugget works pretty well there, too.
    That is true!

    Morally vapid people don't deserve to be fucked over by other morally vapid people.
    I think morals are necessarily built on reciprocity... actually I don't think that's true, but it sounds good.
    The strengh of a hero is defined by the weakness of his villains.

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