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 Originally Posted by OngBonga
So the measures we take can almost wipe out flu, but can't touch covid? It's this kind of logic that takes me into paranoid territory.
Pretty much, yes. The reproductivity, R0, of influenza strains is usually between 1-2, whereas SARS-CoV-2 is suspected to be around 3.5 without any countermeasures. The number means how many others an infected person will spread the virus to on average. This means that COVID spreads massively faster, which is why it's a problem in the first place. The R0 needs to be below 1 for the epidemic to slow, at over 1 it accelerates. The measures are enough to take care of the flu, but haven't been enough for COVID.
Originally Posted by OngBonga
It's easier to believe the people who control the world are corrupt as fuck and have no regard whatsoever for the lives of ordinary people. What's ridiculous is we all know that those in power are corrupt, that's not something I believe we disagree on, yet you still trust them. I don't.
There are degrees to this. If by corrupt you mean they're willing to do backdoor deals to get a legislation to pass, or agree to vote on a bill to get some other favors in return, yeah, they're all corrupt. If you mean they might lie in public, pretend to support a cause knowing they won't, sure, most of them are probably guilty. But, if you mean they embezzle, extort, are only in it for themselves, well, if you scratch my idealism a bit you'll find a cynic, but I 'm still pretty sure that's a very small minority.
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