*** OFFICIAL BREXIT SUNLIT UPLANDS and #MEGA THREAD ***

[OngBonga]

I suspect people who live and work in the UK contribute more to the UK economy than the German one. Maybe you have evidence otherwise?

Well where's your evidence? Why is the onus on me?

If someone is working for a German car company in the UK, then the profits go to Germany. There are a ridiculous number of German cars on our roads, we're a huge market for them. The UK gets tax. But people need cars... we're getting that tax one way or another, it doesn't matter if it's a German car, or a Japanese car. So the only net loss to the UK taxman is the lost income tax, but do you think these people will be out of work for long? They're not idle fuckers like me. When you have lots of skilled, willing unemployed people, there are opportunities for new businesses. So the loss to the taxman is short-term. The loss to the German car industry is longer term. It won't hurt them to the point of Audi going bankrupt, but if they lose the British market, their CEO won't be getting as juicy a dividend.

Put down the bong for a minute and try to remember what you said an hour ago.

I think you're smoking a bong. I'm not seeing a contradiction.

Now go on and explain to me why their auto industry is prepared to sacrifice the UK market, but ours is begging for a deal. Obviously you know something the auto industries don't, so please share it with the class.

I think you choose to see it as you wish. Words like "begging" are subjective, probably picked up by the media using words like "plea". They're prepared to "sacrifice" the UK market because it's out of their hands. It's like when you get dumped by someone you really like, but you pretend to not give a fuck, before going to have a private cry. The German auto industry isn't a relevant party when it comes to negotiations. They are watching on the sidelines, as the EU and UK negotiate. So we're "begging" for a deal because it's in our interests, as well as the EU's. The auto industry isn't begging for anything because they leave the negotiating to the EU. They're probably quietly lobbying instead.

[Poopadoop]

Well where's your evidence? Why is the onus on me?

Just seems like common sense. Unless most of these 800,00 people are buying their groceries in Germany, living in houses and paying rent in Germany, and/or sending their earnings to relatives in Germany, the default assumption would be they're contributing more to the UK economy than Germany's.

If someone is working for a German car company in the UK, then the profits go to Germany.

There's more economy that comes from a business than the net profits, as I alluded to above. 800,000 gainfully employed people in the UK also make profits off their work (called a wage), and those profits end up contributing mainly to the UK economy.

There are a ridiculous number of German cars on our roads, we're a huge market for them. The UK gets tax. But people need cars... we're getting that tax one way or another, it doesn't matter if it's a German car, or a Japanese car.

You're just rambling here.

do you think these people will be out of work for long?

Sounds like a good scenario for sure. As long as they can eventually find other jobs, they'll be fine. Like I said, fruit picking jobs will be abundant.

I think you're smoking a bong. I'm not seeing a contradiction.

The difference is between your original argument that the UK car industry would suffer less than the EU's, and what you later claimed was your argument, that Brexit would do at least some harm to the EU. See the difference? It's not really that subtle.