MMM: "What specific claims of fraud regarding the 2020 presidential election do you find credible?"
Spoon: "2016 democratic Iowa Caucus"
02-24-2021 08:08 AM
#751
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MMM: "What specific claims of fraud regarding the 2020 presidential election do you find credible?" | |
Last edited by oskar; 02-24-2021 at 08:10 AM.
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02-24-2021 08:32 AM
#752
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There may have been a misunderstanding on this then. That's exactly what I took it for when you said, "I've been desperately seeking an intelligent person to explain the positions of the US political right for over a year, now." | |
Last edited by spoonitnow; 02-24-2021 at 08:34 AM. | |
02-24-2021 08:41 AM
#753
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02-24-2021 09:29 AM
#754
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Back in #MEGA news...I don't even know where to start. | |
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02-24-2021 09:41 AM
#755
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Well, since you wanted to open this can of worms so badly... | |
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02-24-2021 09:46 AM
#756
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02-24-2021 10:41 AM
#757
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OK. I didn't word that well. My bad. | |
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02-24-2021 10:56 AM
#758
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No one said anything about anyone's right to speak out on anything. | |
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02-24-2021 11:09 AM
#759
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02-24-2021 12:57 PM
#760
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That's just scratching the surface. Here's some of what's idiotic about it: | |
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02-24-2021 01:07 PM
#761
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Oh, and Imma gonna go out on a limb here and suggest there's a remote possibility that the feasibility studies he's ordering will be carried out by party cronies. | |
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02-24-2021 01:47 PM
#762
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I laughed when I saw reports of plans for these tunnels. Then I went to google maps and imagined it was my decision and I got to decide where the tunnels went. It's fascinating. | |
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02-24-2021 01:50 PM
#763
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02-24-2021 01:54 PM
#764
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The idea that tunneling will cause bombs at the bottom of the sea to explode does seem daft though. They should be tunneling well below the bottom of the sea. If they trigger a bomb, then they were already pretty fucked because they must be far too close to the water. | |
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02-24-2021 03:13 PM
#765
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Dude, you just had a crack at me in the other thread for arguing with you too much and the next thing you do is come over here and argue with me. | |
Last edited by Poopadoop; 02-24-2021 at 03:16 PM.
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02-24-2021 05:17 PM
#766
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Have you ever heard the expression, "If you want to fight, then stick your head up my ass and fight for air?" | |
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02-24-2021 05:37 PM
#767
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So every time I respond to something you say and comment in a way you deem to be "arguing" you're going to play this card, right? | |
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02-24-2021 05:55 PM
#768
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They have to build through this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufort%27s_Dyke | |
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02-24-2021 06:10 PM
#769
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So I am being daft. Well, kind of, it's not obvious, but it's a problem for sure. | |
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02-24-2021 06:51 PM
#770
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I also heard that the seabed there is solid granite whereas the seabed in the Channel is sedimentary. So basically, have fun blasting your way through that for 100 years, 500 sticks of dynamite and 50 feet at a time. | |
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02-24-2021 06:58 PM
#771
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Oh, here's the airport - "Boris Island" | |
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02-24-2021 07:01 PM
#772
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£43m for a bridge they never built. | |
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02-24-2021 07:02 PM
#773
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The guy's fucking obsessed with unrealistic building plans. | |
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02-24-2021 07:08 PM
#774
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The giant roundabout aspect seemed to me like nonsense. But at the same time, fascinating. Imagine if they did it. It would be a remarkable engineering achievement, comparable to putting robots on Mars. I'd be pretty fucking impressed. | |
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02-25-2021 12:01 PM
#775
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I think Brexit was a really good idea. The idea that the long-term benefits of nationalism should outweigh the short-term disadvantages from the change is not unfounded. | |
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02-25-2021 02:22 PM
#776
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The only part of United Kingdom culture under attack really is English culture. England has already become very much multicultural. Scottish and Welsh culture is still strong, but English culture is something that many outsiders seem to think we should be ashamed of. That comes with the territory of being historically dominant, both domestically and globally. Of course, like probably every culture on the planet, there are sources of shame and pride. That's human nature, people do shitty and wonderful things. | |
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02-25-2021 02:39 PM
#777
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Yeah I should have specifically said English culture. That's my bad. | |
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02-25-2021 03:23 PM
#778
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What are the long-term benefits of nationalism, in your opinion? | |
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02-25-2021 03:30 PM
#779
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Survival of a culture. Higher rates of trust. Lower unemployment. Higher GDP per capita. Most of the positive stuff that happens in Japan. | |
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02-25-2021 04:12 PM
#780
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02-25-2021 04:13 PM
#781
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02-25-2021 04:45 PM
#782
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There's some advantages to having a genetically and culturally homogenous population for sure, if that's what you mean. That's hard to achieve in some countries for obvious reasons. I don't think nationalism is going to make the US or the UK genetically or culturally homogenous. | |
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02-25-2021 05:04 PM
#783
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To take the statue argument further, statues of Churchill and Nelson are fine, 'cause they led the country in wars where we were the defenders. It's hard to argue fighting Nazis is something to be ashamed of. Was Churchill flawed? Absolutely. He was a complete racist, but that's not what we're celebrating him for. The statues are him in his WWII outfit doing his anti-Hitler thing. If there was a statue where he's bending some Indian guy over and sodomizing him, then yeah take it down. | |
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02-25-2021 05:09 PM
#784
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Haha | |
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02-25-2021 05:13 PM
#785
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Oh, and about the testing. About a month ago they did what was called "surge testing", where they pick an area of the country where there's been a lot of cases lately and try to test everyone to see how prevalent it is. A lady came to my door, gave me a test kit, and came back later in the day to pick it up. I stuck the thing up my nose and swirled it around like I was digging for gold, filled in all the paperwork and followed all the instructions on how to put it in the vial, etc. | |
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02-25-2021 05:20 PM
#786
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Last edited by Poopadoop; 02-25-2021 at 05:24 PM.
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02-25-2021 05:29 PM
#787
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All of that is fine. | |
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02-25-2021 05:30 PM
#788
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02-25-2021 05:38 PM
#789
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I understand that about the US in those days, and there were very few generals who were from the South and stayed in the Union Army. So while I'm no expert on Lee, my sense is he was more loyal to Virginia than he was to slavery, if he even cared about slavery at all. | |
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02-25-2021 07:49 PM
#790
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Man I've been reading more about ol Boris, and holy shit this guy is great. He's so fucking entertaining. | |
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02-25-2021 09:42 PM
#791
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In case you haven't seen him barge over a goofy kid playing rugby... | |
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02-25-2021 10:01 PM
#792
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Fuck them kids rofl | |
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02-28-2021 07:36 PM
#793
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To be fair, I don't think he was trying to deliberately run the kid over. I think he's just too fat to negotiate his way around anything. | |
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02-28-2021 07:53 PM
#794
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I'd like to see world leaders fight. I reckon Boris would surprise a few people. You gotta be tough to play rugby at boys schools if you don't want your arse to be regularly fucked. | |
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02-28-2021 11:57 PM
#795
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03-01-2021 06:06 AM
#796
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There's always at least one kid in these schools that has a funny walk and kills himself aged 19. | |
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03-02-2021 07:59 AM
#797
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Yeah we had a number of students banging teachers and other staff in our schools too. It happens a lot more than people think (even if they think it happens quite a bit). | |
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03-09-2021 10:34 AM
#798
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Fisherman looking for a job in the EU after Brexit. #MEGA | |
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03-12-2021 08:40 AM
#799
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https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/natio...de/january2021 | |
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03-12-2021 08:52 AM
#800
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#democracy | |
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03-12-2021 10:41 AM
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03-12-2021 11:20 AM
#802
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Britain might have a hard time claiming the moral high ground on human rights after continuing to sell arms to S. Arabia, and slashing their contributions to international aid lol. | |
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03-12-2021 11:25 AM
#803
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Apparently, #democracy is when you agree to a 500 page international trade deal one day and vote on it in parliament the next day. | |
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03-12-2021 11:27 AM
#804
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This is the gov't that left the EU cause it wasn't democratic enough. | |
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03-12-2021 11:32 AM
#805
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Yes, the UK has plenty to be ashamed of. Nice "whataboutism" there from you there poop. | |
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03-12-2021 11:42 AM
#806
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The UK govt are also complicit in the suppression of the Catalans. We didn't criticise the Spanish, we put no diplomatic pressure on them, we're assholes on this matter too. But of course, nobody expects any different from the Tories. If we support the Catalans, if we agree they have the right to self determination, regardless of what the Spanish govt say, then we have to apply the same to the Scottish, ie we have to accept they do not need our permission to hold a referendum. They don't need our permission, international law is quite clear on this. Catalonia is a nation, and so too is Scotland. It's not for us to decide their fate. | |
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03-12-2021 12:40 PM
#807
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03-12-2021 12:42 PM
#808
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There's a lot of "ifs" and "thens" in there, not a lot of acknowledging that Catalan independence is perhaps not as an important issue to the UK as the debasement of democracy in the UK itself. | |
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03-12-2021 12:44 PM
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03-12-2021 01:01 PM
#810
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That's much the same here, no one cares about the EU elections, and the MEPs are just thought to want to go there for the tax free income. Of course for a small country they have fuck all power there, but would think the MEPs from the larger members (tee hee) would have quite a bit more sway. | |
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03-12-2021 02:13 PM
#811
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I've been over this with poop already, but I'll tl;dr it for you. | |
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03-12-2021 02:19 PM
#812
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03-12-2021 02:48 PM
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03-12-2021 06:15 PM
#814
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I'm no more wrong than you are. | |
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03-12-2021 06:28 PM
#815
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It's not really a coalition though, since a coalition is formed by negotiation between parties to avoid a hung parliament. The coalition is formed to create a majority. That isn't what's happening in the EU. | |
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03-12-2021 06:33 PM
#816
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I could have worded that better. To be clear, I appreciate the EU is a great deal more democratic than North Korea. That ins't hard though, and hardly what a democracy should aspire to be. NK doesn't set the standard for democracies. | |
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03-13-2021 04:45 AM
#817
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Here we agree. | |
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03-13-2021 07:11 AM
#818
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03-13-2021 07:45 AM
#819
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It's 1-n from each member state, yes. No one said each member can have representatives of exactly one of their parties, but on the EU level all of the MEPs, regardless of their political affiliation, are mainly supporting the interests of their own countries, so seeing them as a single party on the EU level is not all that incorrect. | |
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03-13-2021 08:31 AM
#820
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03-13-2021 09:03 AM
#821
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smh. | |
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03-13-2021 11:08 AM
#822
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Ok. Well even if in five years time nothing has changed, I still won't want to hand over control of our economy to a third party, even if it comes with economic benefits. So frankly we're arguing about pointless shit. You "smh" at the point that our democracy is superior, because you don't have any substance to any refutation. We vote in an accountable government. The fact the UK population fails to hold corrupt governments to account is partly a reflection of the stupidity of the UK people, and partly down to there being no viable alternative. The last Labour government were corrupt as fuck too. So if you're "smh" because British politics is in a sorry state, I guess fair enough. But the system that underpins our democracy is superior, for the simple reason those we vote in actually have control over things like the economy. MEPs from one party have no such control, so there is no accountability. You can't remove a party and change policy. This difference is so fundamental and obvious that your arguments are clearly in bad faith and simply intended to tell me I'm "wrong" to have a preference of the type of democracy we have. I'm not wrong. My opinion is not objective. Neither is yours. If you approve of this form of government, good for you, it's not for me to tell you your opinion is wrong. But don't try to tell me they are similar systems, because they are blatantly not. We don't have a President for a start. They have three. And yes we have a monarchy, which isn't democratic. That's a problem, but at least our monarchy doesn't have any actual power when it comes to running the country. They're a circus, a tourist attraction. They probably become irrelevant when Liz dies. | |
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03-13-2021 05:30 PM
#823
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MEPs are elected, and therefore accountable. Not sure why that doesn't register with you. | |
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03-13-2021 06:35 PM
#824
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03-13-2021 07:34 PM
#825
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Just one more point, can't be arsed to fix the rest of your mistakes. The number of MEPs per member state is based on population, not wealth. The smaller the population, the more MEPs per capita they can have. So yes, the bigger the country (like Germany and the UK), the less proportional power they have. Why do you think 10 million greeks should have the same amount of say as 80 million germans? | |
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