NFL FOOOOOOOOOOOOTBALLLLLLLLLL

[Warpe]

warpe we are so not friends right now

[UG]

warpe we're cool

[swiggidy]

This is awesome (with appologies to Mcat)
http://kotaku.com/5468234/tecmo-recr...clinching-play

[sinister1]

The NFL has changed overtime rules for post-season games.

From this article: New Rule for Settling Overtime - The Fifth Down Blog - NYTimes.com

The crux of the rule means that the team that wins the overtime coin toss cannot win by kicking a field goal. If it scores a touchdown, the game is over.

But if it kicks a field goal, the other team would get a possession and would win with a touchdown. If nobody scores on the first drives, or if both score field goals, the game reverts to sudden death.

Thoughts?

[Hawk]

I think that to win in overtime you should need to win by 4+ points. This would keep the sudden death aspect alive (game can end on any play), while reducing the cheap short-drive-FG-win games. Even giving up a FG if you are on defense first isn't too terrible since you can still go on a TD drive to win or tie it with a FG of your own.

[Jack Sawyer]

It's way too complex imo.

[Lukie]

It's way too complex imo.

basically the receiving team in overtime can't win with a field goal on the first posession. that's about it.

what I find more interesting is that a safety *IS* an automatic win.

I remember a while back I argued that there was too little reward for a safety in football and while the dynamics are different in overtime and i'm probably making an asanine assumption, i'll consider this a small vindication that nfl owners agree with me.

[ensign_lee]

Where did you read that a safety is an auto-win?

This will really change implications of hte number 3 being so vastly important in football spreads. I mean, obviously, it will still be very important, but if this moves to regular season too, as the article suggests, that takes a little bit of the value away from holding a +3 ticket vs. a +3.5 ticket.

[Lukie]

Safety wins in new overtime | ProFootballTalk.com

[mrhappy333]

I'm glad they did something to change the OT rules. I think the new system will work great.

[Ragnar4]

Brandon Marshall: Would you accept anything less than a 1st round draft pick to let him go? Would you be more focused on re-signing him?

I'm too close to the Broncos to make an unbaised judgement.

[Hawk]

Brandon Marshall: Would you accept anything less than a 1st round draft pick to let him go? Would you be more focused on re-signing him?

I'm too close to the Broncos to make an unbaised judgement.

I'm pretty biased myself here (go Seahawks!!), but I'm hoping that you guys cave in on draft day and take a deal like Deon Branch and a 4th, for him. This pretty much depends on you guys having decided you don't want him back. Branch has been mostly unhealthy the last couple years, but I'm hoping McD is like most coaches who especially value their former players.

[bigspenda73]

you shouldn't let anything worse than a top-15 pick get him, even though he had issues he's a much bigger lock than any offensive player in this year's draft.

[UG]

I hope he goes somewhere else and kicks ass. I thought he was a punk (the media portrayed him that way), but it's come out over the past 3-4 months that the Darrent Williams murder really f'ed him up, and that's one of (if not *the*) reason why he wanted out of Denver.

Trade him to the Chiefs, we need WR's.

[UG]

As for OT, I'm on board. It's not perfect, and I don't know what would be "perfect", but I think it's really god and it's a lot better than flipping a coin and going straight to sudden death.

I used to think the college system was best, but someone pointed out how inferior teams are given an advantage (they don't have to have a sustained drive to score), and that changed my mind pretty quickly. I do like how both teams get the ball, though....thinking about it more, maybe the NFL has the best idea out there?

[UG]

Safety wins in new overtime | ProFootballTalk.com

didn't read the article, but has this ever happened before in overtime?

such a rare occurrence that it probably doesn't matter? although if you're looking for validation, yes Lukie you're a genius and the NFL probably saw your posts on FTR and added that in because of you! lol, <3

[a500lbgorilla]

such a rare occurrence that it probably doesn't matter?

KC Chiefs Lose AFC Championship game on OT safety.

UG: FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU

[UG]

KC Chiefs make it to the AFC Championship game

UG: OMFGHEARTATTACKCUMSHOTARMAGEDDONWTFWOW

yup

[Jack Sawyer]

Ok, so how about the burger? Should he be suspended, y/n?

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell should be feeling pressure to act on the accusations against Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger - ESPN

[Ragnar4]

That article pisses me off, because it pre-supposes that the reason Rothlesbergermeisterhammerschmidtendingerflinger hasn't been confronted by Goodell because Goodell is a racist. Not because the facts are still trickling out and he doesn't have the entire case.

Certainly the Michael Vick case was handled so quickly as to save face, same with the Donte` Stallworth and Plaxico Burress Cases. Knowshon Moreno knocked some dude the fuck out here a few weekends ago. Goodell still hasn't talked to him about it. IF 3/4ths of all of the players in the NFL are African American, that means 3/4ths of all of the most egregious laws broken will be by an African American player (assuming everyone playing is just as likely to break the law as not, I'm not going to even touch racial profiling here) If it came out that Brett Favre killed his wife and was a pedophile he would be banned from the NFL just as quickly as Michael Vick was.

I honestly can't get over how dumb the woman is that wrote that article. Bullshit like that is 1/2 the reason we're still in the dark-ages of racial stereotyping being acceptable.

[a500lbgorilla]

Ok, so how about the burger? Should he be suspended, y/n?

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell should be feeling pressure to act on the accusations against Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger - ESPN

Ben Roethlsomething suspended for a season.

'rilla: FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[ensign_lee]

I hope he goes somewhere else and kicks ass. I thought he was a punk (the media portrayed him that way), but it's come out over the past 3-4 months that the Darrent Williams murder really f'ed him up, and that's one of (if not *the*) reason why he wanted out of Denver.

Trade him to the Chiefs, we need WR's.

lol, right, because you want to trade good, but disgruntled players to division rivals...

[Jack Sawyer]

Holy shit J-E-T-S this year are looking truly monstrous.


Former Miami Dolphins linebacker Jason Taylor joining New York Jets - ESPN New York

[Ragnar4]

The Denver Broncos have proven they can reach on a mediocre player. (Trading away a first, for a second to draft Alphonso Smith)

Broncos Take Tebow at 11th?

Taking odds right now.

Also: They package 42 and 45 to get a late first so they can draft his center.

[Jack Sawyer]

Tebow ain't mediocre, he's like a VY. VY, with more confidence, is pretty much unstoppable. It's when he started doing stupid shit that he became a full blown idiot and sat for Kerry Collins.
So what if Tebow's release is a bit slow? The Broncos got Ryan fucking Clady there at left tackle, switching him to right won't be very problematic at all.
The biggest incognito imo for the Broncos right now is their receiver corps. Can Brandon Lloyd still play? Can Eddie Royal be the monster he's supposed to have become by now?

I don't understand all the Tebow hate. The guy has shown a hunger for winning, the ability to play through pain, and lots of other assets at the QB position that has led his team to countless V's.

[Jack Sawyer]

oh wow

Steelers discuss Roethlisberger deal with Raiders; Rams say no

[surviva316]

i haz my wristband on, and will be spendin tomorrow night at radio city music hall!

[a500lbgorilla]

oh wow

steelers discuss roethlisberger deal with raiders; rams say no

ffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!

"But given the six-game suspension and the limited interest in Roethlisberger, team sources view a deal as extremely remote, if not impossible."

Whew. Also, thank god we didn't trade him to move up to the number one pick to grab Sam Bradford. I would have cried.

[ensign_lee]

Draft day omg omg omg omg

go go go texans!!!

[Ltrain]

Go Packers! My wishlist for the first three rounds:

1. Jerry Hughes; OLB
2. Chris Cook; CB
3. Jared Veldheer, OT

I hear they covet Pouncey and may move up to get him.

[flomo]

steelers are going to take Tbow

[a500lbgorilla]

steelers are going to take tbow

ffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu

[flomo]

steelers are going to take a bath

[bigred]

And for the eleventy billionth time, the patriots trade down...

[ensign_lee]

If any year was the year to capitalize on having a bazillion draft picks, this was it.

I really thought hte Patriots were going to pick up the next class of awesome this year. Why trade down?

[Hawk]

With Okung and Earl Thomas I couldn't be happier.

GO HAWKS!!

[dranger7070]

Lions didn't fail in the first round ZOMG!!!! Picking Suh was the most obvious (and best) choice, and trading up for the running back Best was a pretty good move as well. Hopefully they trade up and try to get another LB/OL.

[BennyLaRue]

Ja, REEAAALLY happy with that Best move.

[bikes]

i still want to know how the hell teblow was picked before clausen

[Ragnar4]

Easy, McDaniels is willing to blow a high pick on a questionable player. I dont think Tebow is going to be a bust, but Im not happy about his prospect of being a Starting QB.

[dranger7070]

Tebow won't be a big hit right away, everyone knows that. But I guarantee if they train him right (and if anyone can, its McDaniels) he'll be one of the best QBs in the NFL in 3-5 years.

[bigspenda73]

you take a QB in the 1st round either on

-potential
-the ability to come in and immediately make your team better

we know it's not the 2nd point, but I question the first as well, the kid has had a ton of time as a QB to work on his motion, learn to play from under center, etc... and he never put an ounce of time into in before he was done at college. That's just starting a little too late in my book.

[dranger7070]

I don't want to say anything dumb, but how did Brady look when he came out of college? I honestly have no idea what the scouts were saying about him or why he went so low, but obviously McDaniels turned him into a powerhouse, or the Patriots just managed to find a diamond in the rough and McDaniels didn't do shit but show him the ropes. If its the former then Tebow is going to be an amazing quarterback, if its the latter then who knows?

He still has plenty of time to learn the position inside and out, and I'd be surprised if he starts this year except for maybe a couple games during mid/late season (depending on how their playoff outlook is) to get his feet wet for next year. I'm gonna go look up what scouts actually thought of Brady before they drafted him, since I really don't know the history on that.

[surviva316]

you take a QB in the 1st round either on

-potential
-the ability to come in and immediately make your team better

we know it's not the 2nd point, but I question the first as well, the kid has had a ton of time as a QB to work on his motion, learn to play from under center, etc... and he never put an ounce of time into in before he was done at college. That's just starting a little too late in my book.

when you have jesus, the sky is the limit

[dranger7070]

Oh and I totally realize that Tebow's situation != Tom Brady's.

[ensign_lee]

The difference between the Tebow situation and your description of Brady is that the risk/reward ratio is all out of whack.

Brady was a 5th or 6th round pick. Those picks have like a 15-20% chance of making it on an NFL roster beyond their rookie and sophomore years, if that. And just to make it onto a roster, much less be a star.

If the Patriots were wrong with their assessment on Tom Brady, meh - small risk to try to find a good player.

1st round picks are expected to *produce*. Teams need to hit on these picks often in order to sustain their talent pool. You miss on enough 1st and 2nd round picks without commensurate existing talent or the ability to pick really good people in late rounds...and you end as the Detroit Lions.

The fact that the Broncos traded for Brady Quinn as well just makes the Tebow situation all the more weird.

But hey, the Broncos went 6-0 to start last year when I thought they would go 1-5 or 0-6...so what do I know?