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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyLaRue View Post
    1% of 1 birron is what now?
    Is 1 million, learn math plz

    And since I know you're too lazy to spend 2 to 3 hours reading the link:

    "My biggest peeve is when I here people say, ooh please, there are a billion muslims in the world and only 1-2 percent are very Radical. Well lets see just how serious that is. That make 1-2 million Radical and potential terrorist."
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    Quote Originally Posted by surviva316 View Post
    Bonju Pattern HAS to be a level.

    also, i fail to see the connection between the argument 1% of 1 billion still being a big number, and any kind of relevancy whatsoever with the mosque near ground zero. are 1 billion people going to be going to that prayer center?

    Catholic churches are an afront to grade schools. sure, only 1% of priests are child molesters but there are 400,000 priests in the world, so if you build a catholic church near a grade school, then FOUR THOUSAND boys will get raped. i know that's more boys than there are in the entire school, but that's a fact using math, and you can't dispute math.

    unrelated note: while i was researching how many priests there are in the world, i found this sentence:

    "Some 1.166 billion Roman Catholics were baptized last year, compared to just under 1.147 billion in 2007"

    i doubt the validity of this statement
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    related note: just got done with a convo with my father where he thinks building a mosque there is a slap in the face to america and all islams are evil people due to their religion and when i pointed out fallacies in every part of his arguement he attacks me personally. sighduck
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    I honestly thought you guys get baptized annually.
    Religion, you can assume any crazy thing and there's a good chance you get it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbickes View Post
    related note: just got done with a convo with my father where he thinks building a mosque there is a slap in the face to america and all islams are evil people due to their religion and when i pointed out fallacies in every part of his arguement he attacks me personally. sighduck

    Learn to be born of a virgin mother, then your dad is really cool until you hit like 30.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    Is 1 million, learn math plz
    Math was better right after 9/11.
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    Get it? I said 2-3 hrs reading for less than 1 page of text because you're bad at math and you read slow.
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    Also you are stupid for supporting a monument to the Terrorists of the 9/11 Attacks.
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    I just want to point out that around 1% of Muslims are hot ladays. It's really them I support.

    If some subset of that group also happens to be terrorists, I admit I'd be conflicted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbickes View Post
    related note: just got done with a convo with my father where he thinks building a mosque there is a slap in the face to america and all islams are evil people due to their religion and when i pointed out fallacies in every part of his arguement he attacks me personally. sighduck
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    About the Mosque near Ground Zero, I've changed my mind.... I say let them build it. But across the street, we should put a topless bar, called "You Mecca Me Hot". Next to that, a gay bar called "The Turban Cowboy" and next to that, a pork-rib restaurant called "Iraq o' Ribs" ? And a check cashing center called "Iran out of money"...... Let's see who's really tolerant then....
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    Quote Originally Posted by triumphant cracker View Post
    About the Mosque near Ground Zero, I've changed my mind.... I say let them build it. But across the street, we should put a topless bar, called "You Mecca Me Hot". Next to that, a gay bar called "The Turban Cowboy" and next to that, a pork-rib restaurant called "Iraq o' Ribs" ? And a check cashing center called "Iran out of money"...... Let's see who's really tolerant then....

    I laughed.. but really... these people are just trying to live in this country. They are not building this community center to taunt America. They have even been amicable when it came to renaming the center to avoid offending people by naming it after a mosque in Spain which celebrated Muslim victory. They have been more than reasonable. The same could not be said for people who would build purposefully inflammatory businesses across the street.

    cliffs: stop being a fucking bigot.
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    Meh...you think that message is going to get through to a man with the screen name "triumphant cracker." Yeah, I doubt that.
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    I would actually quite like a nude bar of arabic, persian, and indian women.
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    fuckin' right
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    I laughed.. but really... these people are just trying to live in this country. They are not building this community center to taunt America. They have even been amicable when it came to renaming the center to avoid offending people by naming it after a mosque in Spain which celebrated Muslim victory. They have been more than reasonable. The same could not be said for people who would build purposefully inflammatory businesses across the street.

    cliffs: stop being a fucking bigot.
    Yeah, but he's bigoted against Islam. Of all the bigotries I suppress, I don't mind letting this one slip out. Fuck those guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    Yeah, but he's bigoted against Islam. Of all the bigotries I suppress, I don't mind letting this one slip out. Fuck those guys.

    I can shrug off bigotry from the ignorant... but from someone who I see as being fairly enlightened, it just makes me sick.
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    I guess I should build a school of math and science in Alabama as a slap in the face to everyone from Alabama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    I guess I should build a school of math and science in Alabama as a slap in the face to everyone from Alabama.
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    YouTube - Bill O'Reilly Gets Whoopi Goldberg and & Joy Behar to Walk Off The View

    LOL at the dumb blonde bitch saying "Well, if we were allowed to say terrorists, nobody would notice they were Muslim..."

    Also, I LOL'd at O'Reilly saying, "Muslims DIDN'T kill us on 9/11?."
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    Quote Originally Posted by BooG690 View Post
    YouTube - Bill O'Reilly Gets Whoopi Goldberg and & Joy Behar to Walk Off The View

    LOL at the dumb blonde bitch saying "Well, if we were allowed to say terrorists, nobody would notice they were Muslim..."

    Also, I LOL'd at O'Reilly saying, "Muslims DIDN'T kill us on 9/11?."
    lol this whole thing is hilarious. Elizabeth Hasselback must be creaming her pants during that interview
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    Genereal Pershing...is...EPIC
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    That's actually quite brilliant
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    Quote Originally Posted by triumphant cracker View Post
    About the Mosque near Ground Zero, I've changed my mind.... I say let them build it. But across the street, we should put a topless bar, called "You Mecca Me Hot". Next to that, a gay bar called "The Turban Cowboy" and next to that, a pork-rib restaurant called "Iraq o' Ribs" ? And a check cashing center called "Iran out of money"...... Let's see who's really tolerant then....
    love it lol
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    When will people learn never to let facts get in the way of a good story?
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    Quote Originally Posted by triumphant cracker View Post
    Why don't we put a church up in Kabul in honor of our fallen soldiers and see how that goes over. I guarantee the Muslims would never allow that to happen, so why should we put a mosque up at ground zero? Think about it America. Everyone is brainwashed by the liberal media into not hurting Anyone's feelings, well what about the feelings of the survivors of 9/11? Don't they deserve to not be hurt as well?
    Your absolutely right and if we put up a church there it would be warfare and her the government protects it. Crazy shit.
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    ^Yeah thats fucking crazy that the us govt protects freedom of religion here. Fuckin insane....
    We should be more intollerant like those other countries across the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Shot18 View Post
    And you dont need to worry about the muslims. Foxnews did a report about malmo in sweden check it out its pretty sick.

    If you wanna watch it search for "Fox news muslimer in malmo"


    The video says it all ironic huh?

    But still i don't hate all muslims thats wrong to do even tho i think the koran is totally fucked up and missleading
    what about the bible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Shot18 View Post
    hey i dont belivie in any religion i don't think the bible has all the good answers either BUT, The koran tells you to hate all other religions and spit on them thats why muslims are in general so fcking angry and stupid =D

    If you dont belivie me then read the koran its fcuking true.


    While other religions are more peaceful like the Hindusim.
    I think he was just being a douche and saying that if you watch fox news you must be a bible thumper. In reality he probably doesn't watch the news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numbr2intheWorld View Post
    I think he was just being a douche and saying that if you watch fox news you must be a bible thumper. In reality he probably doesn't watch the news.

    Actually I think he was just saying that many religions (certainly the big three) have very morally questionable content and lessons. I would say that to objectively state that the koran holds more objectionable content than the bible would be pretty much impossible.

    Many non-extremist of the Christian faith claim that the bible was written in a different time and therefore you have to interpret its content and apply it to our time. If we allow this then we can also allow it with Muslims who might claim that their holy book, the koran, was written in a time when the religion was young and threatened by more established religions. Therefore the passages paraphrased in this thread could be seen as a sort of early survival tactic for the religion.

    I'm not saying that I believe this. But I am saying that if we give allowances to non-extremist Christians to abandon vulgar passages in their holy book, we can't hold non-extremist Muslims to a different standard just because extremist Muslims flew jumbo jets into the twin towers.

    You might go on to claim that the amount of Muslim extremist is higher per capita, and while this may be true, we need to exam the possible reasons. And I think the elephant in the room is the colonial occupation of many Muslim countries throughout the past two hundred or so years. The countries have been at the whim of predatory western nations who left them down and out with a poor populace. Poor uneducated people are far more susceptible to religious extremism than is a well-to-do educated person. Mix that with a religion that has an arguably more hostile and violent religious text, and now you can see how we got to where we are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyLaRue View Post
    Nazis died in Israel?

    Was it the heat?
    Oh, man, I make myself laugh.

    Good thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BooG690 View Post
    Meh...you think that message is going to get through to a man with the screen name "triumphant cracker." Yeah, I doubt that.

    That makes me lol. You must think I care what you think about me. The fact is, I make you all think about me.

    I just like pissing in your pool. And then watch you get all pissed off....
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    Quote Originally Posted by triumphant cracker View Post
    You must think I care what you think about me.
    Based on the rest of your comment, you do care, just in the opposite manner to usual.
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    That makes you a unique flower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by triumphant cracker View Post
    I just like pissing in your pool. And then watch you get all pissed off....
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    Quote Originally Posted by triumphant cracker View Post
    I just like pissing in your pool. And then watch you get all pissed off....
    I like it when people say something dumb and then fall back on a statement like this.
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    whatever you gotta do to rationalize....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce Blue View Post
    Location matters. Ground zero is the site of the greatest mass murder in American history -- perpetrated by Muslims of a particular Islamist orthodoxy in whose cause they died and in whose name they killed.


    Of course that strain represents only a minority of Muslims. Islam is no more intrinsically Islamist than present-day Germany is Nazi -- yet despite contemporary Germany's innocence, no German of good will would even think of proposing a German cultural center at, say, Treblinka.

    That's why Disney's early '90s proposal to build an American history theme park near Manassas Battlefield was defeated by a broad coalition fearing vulgarization of the Civil War. It's why the commercial viewing tower built right on the border of Gettysburg was taken down by the Park Service. It's why while no one objects to Japanese cultural centers, the idea of putting one up at Pearl Harbor would be offensive

    And why Pope John Paul II ordered the Carmelite nuns to leave the convent they had established at Auschwitz. He was in no way devaluing their heartfelt mission to pray for the souls of the dead. He was teaching them a lesson in respect: This is not your place, it belongs to others. However pure your voice, better to let silence reign.

    Quite honestly, the radicals that actually strap on the vest and blow people up may be few but I really am tired of the poor, mistreated muslim talk. The religion of Islam is far from accepting and loving.

    One must look with open eyes at the religion itself. The principal mosque in Rome has a surface area of 30,000 square meters and can hold thousands of believers. The Christian church of Mecca has a surface area of zero square meters and can hold zero believers. In fact, there is no Christian church in Mecca. In other words, Rome is an open city and Mecca is a closed city.

    There has never been opposition by Muslims to the exclusive character of Mecca. Their main sanctuary is located there, and it is forbidden for non-believers to cross the city limits. No other sanctuary of any world religion is closed to members of different creeds. The Western Wall in Jerusalem, the Jews’ holiest site, can be visited by anyone — Muslims, Christians, or Buddhists. The Basilica of Saint Peter in the Vatican, the center of the Roman Catholic religion, is open to any person that wishes to visit its splendor. Hindu and Buddhist temples welcome anyone who walks in, but not the Muslims’ main mosque.

    Muslims claim that their religion contains the final message of God and that all other religions express falsehoods, lies, and distortions — which means that adherents to other religions cannot be accepted as equal human beings with the same rights. Churches are banned in Saudi Arabia. In “modern” Turkey, it is, in reality, impossible to renovate an old Christian church, let alone create one. In a traditional Islamic country, adherents of different religions who refuse to accept Muhammad as their prophet have to live a life with restrictions and special rules. They are the so-called “dhimmis” — people who believe in a single God but who should be treated with special restrictions because of their refusal to follow the prophet Muhammad.

    All I am saying is let's not paint Islam as a model of peace and understanding. They aren't Buddihist for God's sake.


    And...he said it better than me. kudos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by triumphant cracker View Post
    whatever you gotta do to rationalize....
    Yep

    No matter that it's not a mosque, the guy in charge was a valued friend of the Bush administration, the politicizing of it correlated perfectly with standard maneuvering, and nobody has said anything about it whatsoever since the maneuvering became no longer apropos

    Please stop being a tool in the Koch factory
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    I think it could be so awsome if they build a mosque because it has great potential for intresting television. Wouldn't it be ironic if someone jams an airplane in that mosque. Now that would cause some controversy
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    Are there sushi restaurants at Pearl Harbor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eugmac View Post
    Are there sushi restaurants at Pearl Harbor?
    oh the huge manatee jpeg

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