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Originally Posted by OngBonga
I thought I emphasises viable. Going to Israel is certainly not a viable option. In fact suicice is preferable to going to fucking Israel. That is literally the last place on the planet I would like to be. Yeah I'd rather be on a raft in the ocean living off fish and rainwater. In case my feelings aren't obvious, fuck Israel. They're the most capitalist pigs out there ffs. They run the world. They're the fuckers responsible for my anticapitalist feelings. We can go down this round if you like, and you can stop calling me lazy and start calling me paranoid.
Hippie communes don't exactly advertise at the jobcentre, fyi. If someone invited me to one, I'd be interested to see how they support themselves. That *might* be viable.
try google then .....http://blitzedape.blogspot.co.uk/201...nes-in-uk.html
A list of Intentional Communes in the UK
Alto Sax Tantra Community (near Stansted Airport, England, United Kingdom) Re-Forming
Beannachar Camphill Community (Aberdeen, Scotland, United Kingdom)
Beech Hill Community (Devon, England, United Kingdom)
Braziers Park (Wallingford, England, United Kingdom)
Camphill Communities in Britain and Ireland, Association of (England, United Kingdom)
Camphill Village, Newton Dee (Aberdeen, Scotland, United Kingdom)
Canon Frome Court Community (Ledbury, England, United Kingdom)
Centre for Alternative Technology - CAT (Powys, Wales, United Kingdom)
Chicken Shack Housing Cooperative (Gwynedd, Wales, United Kingdom)
Clanabogan Camphill Community (Co Tyrone BT78 1TJ, N. Ireland, United Kingdom)
Coastal Community (United Kingdom) Forming
CoFlats Stroud (Stroud, England, United Kingdom)
The Community Project (Lewes, England, United Kingdom)
Corani Housing and Land Co-op (Leicester, England, United Kingdom)
Cornerstone Housing Cooperative (West Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom) (Leeds, England, United Kingdom)
Couple Seeking Therapeutic Community UK (Brentwood, Essex, England, United Kingdom) Forming
Earthworm Housing Co-op (Shropshire SH7 0LH, England, United Kingdom)
Ecovillage Network UK (Bristol BS99 3JP, England, United Kingdom)
Enlinca (Cambridge, United Kingdom) Forming
Findhorn Foundation and Community (Findhorn, Scotland, United Kingdom)
Forge Bank (Halton, Lancaster, United Kingdom) Forming
FOUNDATION (London, United Kingdom) (Tamil Nadu, India) Forming
Frankleigh Co-Flats (Bradford-on-Avon, England, United Kingdom)
Godhive (Bexley, Kent, United Kingdom)
Harrow Ashram (London, England, United Kingdom) Forming
Hengrave Community of Reconciliation (Suffolk, England, United Kingdom) Forming
Hockerton Housing Project (Southwell, England, United Kingdom)
The Homestar Community (Borders near eastern coast, Scotland, United Kingdom) Forming
Isle of Erraid (Argyll, Scotland, United Kingdom)
Keveral Farm (Looe, England, United Kingdom)
Komaja (Gersau, Switzerland) (Cologne, Germany) (Espasingen, Germany) (Vienna, Austria) (Zagreb, Croatia) (Skopje, Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of) (Ohrid, Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of) (Brighton, United Kingdom) (Novi Beograd, Serbia and Montenegro) (Dublin, Ireland) (Sliema, Malta) (HR Den Haag, Netherlands) (Bowral, New South Wales, Australia) (Beverly, Massachusetts, United States)
Lammas (Pembrokeshire, Wales, United Kingdom) Forming
Laurieston Hall (Castle Douglas, Scotland, United Kingdom)
Lee Abbey Aston Household Community (Birmingham B6 5ND, England, United Kingdom)
Leyton co-housing (London, United Kingdom)
London Community (London, United Kingdom) Forming
Monkton Wyld Court (Bridport, Dorset, United Kingdom) Re-Forming
Moonlight Meadows (United Kingdom) Re-Forming
Mourne Grange Camphill Village Community (Co Down, N. Ireland, United Kingdom)
New Creation Christian Community (Northampton, England, United Kingdom) (Coventry, England, United Kingdom) (Birmingham, England, United Kingdom) (Leicester, England, United Kingdom) (London, England, United Kingdom) (Sheffield, England, United Kingdom) (Belfast, N. Ireland, United Kingdom) (Brighton and Hove, England, United Kingdom) (Liverpool, England, United Kingdom) (Milton Keynes, England, United Kingdom) (Oxford, England, United Kingdom)
Newbold House (Forres, Scotland, United Kingdom)
9/11-Truthers (Scotland, United Kingdom) Forming
The Othona Community (Essex, England, United Kingdom)
Othona Community Burton Bradstock (Bridport, England, United Kingdom)
Plants for a Future (Ashwater, Beaworthy, Devon, England, United Kingdom) (The Field, Higher Penpol, Lostwithiel, Cornwall, England, United Kingdom) Forming
Redfield Community (Buckinghamshire, England, United Kingdom)
The Rogue Elephant (Rural setting outside of London, United Kingdom) Forming
The Seventh Way (UK, United Kingdom)
Simon Community (London, England, United Kingdom)
Springhill Cohousing Community (Stroud, England, United Kingdom)
Stepping Stones Housing Co-op (South West, Wales, United Kingdom)Steward Community Woodland (Devon, England, United Kingdom) Forming
TRINITY Christian PRIORY (Spain) (Argentina) (Vera Cruz, Mexico) (Uppsala, Sweden) (Crawley, United Kingdom) (Bebra, Germany) (RENNES, France) (Dallas, Texas, United States) (Congo) (PARIS, France) (Selignac, France) (THIERS 63300, France) (Welkom, South Africa) (New Mexico and Mexico) (Wisconsin, United States) (Chicago, Illinois, United States) (Mpumalanga Province, near Badplaas, South Africa) (Newark, Notts, United Kingdom) (Venezuela) (Brazil) (Ecuador) (India)
Two Piers (England, United Kingdom)
The Well at Willen (Milton Keynes, England, United Kingdom)
Zeitgeist Collective (Thailand) (Manchester, United Kingdom) Forming
I have worked at a charity shop before while on benefits, and raised this subject with my advisor a few months ago. He said it was possible but not something I can just go an do, I'd need to get agreement. This actually might happen. Or it might not, idk. I'm certainly not unwilling to work in a charity shop.
keith you're still talking crazy on this matter. Just because some webiste says that weed has 50+ carcinogenic compounds, that does not make it ok to spray shit that can cause harm onto the plants. It's not ok to make something that is bad for you even worse. I don't even think you believe what you say here, you're just being argumentative for the sake of it. I do that, argue a point I have no belief in, just because it's fun. It's like saying it's ok to drink canal water and vodka because the vodka is bad for you so who gives a crap about the canal water. Seriously keith. And yes the moulds aren't good to smoke either. I've had to throw a reasonable amount of weed on a fire because it was mouldy. A few hundred quid, up in flames. That was a bag that I left for too long. If that was the crop during its cycle it would've been thousands lost. Mouldy weed doesn't make it on to the market because noone wants to smoke it for free, let alone buy it. It's possible that a few particles of mould go unchecked, that's the case when you eat bread too. But any noticable sign of mould means that it is worthless and to be disposed of quickly.
[/quote] sprays have to go through rigorous testing before being approved for use , same would apply to use on weed but as you maintain its a high value crop the incentive is their for the chemical companies to get their products tested to see what combustion products result . if they prevent mould that is contributing to the 50+ carcinogens then their use could actually make the weed less harmful.
No, you're right that Nan isn't going to make a living off tomatoes. I'm talking about quality here. When it comes to the point you're making, the difference between Nan's tomatoes and my weed is value. Weed is never going to be as cheap as tomatoes.
I understand what you're getting at, but you're wrong to assume there would be no means of income for me if it was legal for me to grow weed. I might not have the profit margins of the big companies, but believe me my weed will be nicer, and it will still be profitable because it will always have a significant value. It's not a competition between me and the big company to see who makes the most money. I just want an income, which would be easy.
you are lacking any understanding of how the marketplace works though. You think that decriminalizing will mean that everyone will carry on as before paying sky high prices to the growers.that won't happen. large scale growers will supply those not wanting to grow but a hell of a lot of your target market will be nipping down the local garden centre and buying some pot plants and grow their own.
And your point about cheap lager is also missing the point. I'm a cider drinker, but I'm very fussy about the quality. I want nice flat cider, not fizzy shit. The kids are all drinking nasty cider, and you can bet your life that Strongbow make a lot more money that Lilley's, who make my favourite cider. But Lilley's is still a viable business, because there are enough people who deem quality more important that value.
who would typically be the higher disposable income people rather than the out of work kids
And you're wrong if you think everyone will leave their jobs so they can do fuck all with their £500 a month or whatever the greens dish out. Will dan be able to support his family on £500? Nope. The only people who will laze about doing fuck all are the people who do that anyway.
Hardly a ringing endorsement of their policy then is it .....vote green and make the bone idle better off isn't going to get them elected
I have no choice but to lie to them. The alternative is to get nothing. Am I fraudulent? Well actually no I'm not. They ask me what I've been doing. I give them a list of jobs. I don't say I actually applied for them, not anywhere where I put my signature anyway, I give them a list of jobs. I tell them I'm looking for jobs. Well I am looking for jobs. For my list that I have to give them. So no I'm not acting fraudulently. And even still, when the alternative is to become quickly homeless and hungry, your point is still moot because it's hardly a crime for someone to lie in order to survive.
again you are wrong , you are not looking for jobs , you are looking for a list of job adverts which is not the same thing.You are not looking for a job that you intend to interview for and then if succesfull turn up and work at.WHen we advertised jobs in the past their was no point advertising at the job centre. All we got from job centres were people wanting the interview so that they could then carry on claiming. They , like you, had no intention of doing the job that they were applying for, they were just ticking boxes to ensure the dole money kept flowing.
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