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    Event General Chat Thread (No Debate)

    I'm going to try to start a general chat thread with the caveat that there's no debate along the lines of politics, the election, feminism, drugs, etc. That shit bogs down every single thread into a series of blog posts that no one really gives a shit about.

    So with all of that having been said, what's up?
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    i think i wanna go teetotaler. the one problem? id have to use the word teetotaler. could they have picked something sillier?
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    hey guys im a frumpydumpfram. it means i dont eat bell peppers.
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    Take an opiate-blocker, wait an hour, drink and rob your brain of all the rewards its so used to. Eventually, your sense of the worth of drinking changes.

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    Since I started this off, here's what's going on with me.

    Today's my four-year anniversary or w/e since I started dating my fiancee. We've been engaged about two and a half months. I took her and the chick that lives with us to this bar that has pretty good pizza to go out for the occasion. It's a bit of a drive, but the food is ridiculously good. She got me some olives I really like (that are fairly expensive, so I don't eat them often since they're just fucking olives) and a new laptop charger to replace one that fucked up on me a few weeks ago. That was fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    i think i wanna go teetotaler. the one problem? id have to use the word teetotaler. could they have picked something sillier?
    I've been sober around 13 years, and I've only ever used the word teetotaler when talking about how dumb of a word it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    i think i wanna go teetotaler. the one problem? id have to use the word teetotaler. could they have picked something sillier?
    Why would you use that word? Just say you don't drink.

    I have some stomach issues that mean that drinking (and loads of things unfortunately) gives me horrible acid reflux over the following couple of days. That I can live with I just drown it out with a load of antacids but before Easter I had a few drinks and I spent Easter throwing up black stuff and shitting black stuff as a result of blood getting into my stomach. Funnily enough I didn't do anything about it for a few days and couldn't get a doctors appointment till a week after and he didn't seem that fussed about it. I basically stopped drinking for a month after that & since have drank twice, my mate finishing uni/me getting a job celebrations & drinking with an old pal of mine after he lost his kid.

    Assuming you don't have a problem with alcohol to begin with it's really easy, even in social situations like at parties and bars. And I enjoy drinking. When my stomach is fixed I'll probably start drinking more again but will try and keep it to a couple of times a month/special occasions.

    edit - Before that I had a few months in 2015 where I didn't drink at all either. I can't remember why I started doing that though.

    edit 2 - Also why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImSavy View Post
    Why would you use that word? Just say you don't drink.
    Yeah that's what I do.
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    I don't drink much. Maybe 3 or 4 times a year. Most of the time I'm in a place where there's drinking, I just have water.

    I don't talk about the fact that I'm not drinking; I just turn down any offers for a drink with something like, "I'm good, thanks."

    You don't have to tell people.

    In my experience, people tend to get a bit weird when they learn that your not drinking and also not a recovering alcoholic. Which is dumb, and I can't help but be entertained by it in a smug little way. Probably worth the entertainment value, if you can manage to not come off as a smug jerk, IMO.
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    Yeah I'm definitely a person who fits that description. I could never be an alcoholic, I just don't like it enough. For me the transient benefits of drinking alcohol (buzzedness/drunkness, the taste [I actually like good beer], the company) aren't even close to being on par with the costs (money, empty calories, hangovers). I'd probably have a lot more friends though if I did drink more. I am not a total abstainer but I probably drink less than 10 times per year which is especially seldom given that I own a bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I don't talk about the fact that I'm not drinking; I just turn down any offers for a drink with something like, "I'm good, thanks."
    Pretty much this. After someone (usually a female) sees me turn down drinks a number of times, they usually ask me if there's some reason I don't drink.

    The reason I don't drink is because when I start, I don't really have a stop button, and I'm totally over-the-top belligerent when I'm drunk. I figured this out by ~18 and just decided to stop period.

    Most males on both sides of my family are/were alcoholics at some point, which helped with that decision.
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    It's just like everything else. Is doing x worth $y?

    I started mixing drinks recently. I've been watching "bar rescue" and got inspired. Playing with whisky atm. It's pretty fun honestly.

    @renton: the bars on bar rescue are almost always in need of rescue because the owner drinks the profits away. Good on ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton View Post
    Yeah I'm definitely a person who fits that description. I could never be an alcoholic, I just don't like it enough. For me the transient benefits of drinking alcohol (buzzedness/drunkness, the taste [I actually like good beer], the company) aren't even close to being on par with the costs (money, empty calories, hangovers). I'd probably have a lot more friends though if I did drink more. I am not a total abstainer but I probably drink less than 10 times per year which is especially seldom given that I'm a pimp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKDS View Post
    I started mixing drinks recently. I've been watching "bar rescue" and got inspired. Playing with whisky atm. It's pretty fun honestly
    I'm a big fan of the gold rush cocktail that was featured in one of the first episodes of Bar Rescue.

    2oz bourbon
    1oz honey syrup (one part honey one part water boiled for dissolving then chilled for serving)
    0.75oz lemon or lime juice

    Shake vigorously in a lot of ice for 15+ seconds then strain over a rocks glass with more ice.

    I like it a lot because it actually tastes like bourbon instead of trying to mask the taste. But obv it tastes smoother than bourbon on the rocks or whatever.
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    Whilst 've never come close to actually quitting drinking, I have stopped getting drunk.

    I basically have every other Friday night as a night out, and go back a year and this would generally involved me getting drunk, varying from quite drunk to completely hammerred. I've stopped doing this and found that my liife is better in so many ways. More money, no horrific hangovers that last for 2 days, happier home life, more energy over the weekends and more inclination to do stuff. I think this has something to do with not having my old job which made me unhappy, so now having less of a desire to get fucked on a Friday night as I no longer search for that release from the daily grind.

    I've also adjusted my drinking by reducing beer intake and drinking vodka & tonic a lot. Much less calories, and if you have a reasonably high quality vodka, if you do get drunk you have far less of a hangover.
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    The other chick that lives with me turns 21 tomorrow. I've already given her both of her birthday presents because I'm absolutely terrible at keeping presents until when I'm "supposed" to give them to her or my fiancee. It's so bad that I have to not even order something until the last minute since I know I'll end up just giving it to them early if I don't. I got her a trackball she really liked and a thing for her car that lets her listen to music from her phone or iPod via bluetooth instead of a bunch of cables.

    I don't have a whole hell of a lot to talk about other than work. I started playing Runescape again about a week ago. I last played around 10 years ago, and everything is completely different now. It's clear they're trying hard to compete with more modern fantasy-type MMORPGs. I like it so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKDS View Post
    It's just like everything else. Is doing x worth $y?

    I started mixing drinks recently. I've been watching "bar rescue" and got inspired. Playing with whisky atm. It's pretty fun honestly.

    @renton: the bars on bar rescue are almost always in need of rescue because the owner drinks the profits away. Good on ya.
    I really like that show, and it tends to be more interesting and have a bit more depth than some of the other similar shows aimed at American viewers. The UK Kitchen Nightmares are still my favorite from the genre, though. Anyone know of anything else more along those lines?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    I really like that show, and it tends to be more interesting and have a bit more depth than some of the other similar shows aimed at American viewers. The UK Kitchen Nightmares are still my favorite from the genre, though. Anyone know of anything else more along those lines?
    I used to really like Bar Rescue, but the later seasons started to seem fake or over-acted, with way too much interpersonal drama happening.

    I haven't watched it in a while, but the episodes of "The Profit" I saw were good (CNBC). The main guy in the show tries to help failing businesses, often by investing in the business or buying partial ownership (using his own money). Or sometimes he just gives up because the failing business isn't worth saving, usually because the owners won't change their bad habits that sunk the business in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightGizmo View Post
    I used to really like Bar Rescue, but the later seasons started to seem fake or over-acted, with way too much interpersonal drama happening.

    I haven't watched it in a while, but the episodes of "The Profit" I saw were good (CNBC). The main guy in the show tries to help failing businesses, often by investing in the business or buying partial ownership (using his own money). Or sometimes he just gives up because the failing business isn't worth saving, usually because the owners won't change their bad habits that sunk the business in the first place.
    I only watched the first two seasons or so of Bar Rescue, but I don't doubt it turned into that. It seems like they all do once ratings start falling a little (which they normally do after a couple of seasons).

    I'll take a look at that show later and see how I like it. Thanks for the recommendation.
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    over under on me fucking up this thread?

    over under and me knowing what over under means?
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    i used to think renton was hella black on account of the "helluva drug" avatar
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    A lot of non-drinkers-- I pretty much am alcohol free for the past few years. I'm often around people drinking, and very rarely I'll think "hey, I used to like doing that.." and then I have a beer and I suppose it's enjoyable, but immediately I remember the negatives. Like JKDS said, it's a simple cost benefit analysis. For me, the buzz isn't that good, the expense is too great, and the hangovers/potential making an ass of myself/health concerns/potential addiction seal the deal.
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    man idk how anyone can be alcohol free. maybe it's my circle of friends and family but damn near every single social outing includes alcohol.
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    also you're all gay. i'm drunk.
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    also you're all gay. i'm drunk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    Last year I couldn't figure out why I had a headache every weekend. I didn't think you could get a hangover from two beers, but I do. Most of my friends drink, but I don't feel awkward staying sober.
    I'm the same way. I get a hangover 100% of the time that I drink alcohol. Doesn't matter how much I drink, how drunk I got, how well I stayed hydrated. My theory it is just that we don't drink enough. If you train the body to metabolize alcohol, it gets better at it over time, but every time I drink it's been weeks since I last drank. There's no need for the body to stay adapted to such an infrequent stress event.
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    maybe yalls need a root canal. i used to get headaches like clockwork just from a sip of alcohol. turned out it was just my fucking bad tooth causing all sorts of problems.
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    Fuck alcohol. I enjoy a good cider, but I could live without it. Can't remember the last time I was drunk. If I could be arsed to read the drunk thread, I could probably tell you. But I can't be arsed.

    Couldn't live without weed, obviously.
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    Can't wait for weed to be legal.
    Yeah me too, I can get a job.
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    I have a sense that I'll be buying low-tier weed when it hits the market, because closet growers have been weaponizing the strains. I don't wanna know about the maddening chronic you can cook up.
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    Actually a big trend in the industry has been high CBD, low THC strains. While the put-you-on-your-ass strains will certainly be sold, I think nationwide legalization will see a popularization of ultra low THC strains. I think there'd be a huge market for a tobacco alternative that doesn't cause addiction. I'd probably buy a pack here and there, and it could potentially be used as a way to quit tobacco-- you get all the ritual while cutting out all the nicotine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    Actually a big trend in the industry has been high CBD, low THC strains. While the put-you-on-your-ass strains will certainly be sold, I think nationwide legalization will see a popularization of ultra low THC strains.
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    On the topic of growing, etc., I don't really know shit about weed, but I know a lot about tobacco. Are they similar at all?
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    I think that the closest crop to grow is hops. I read an article that you can produce hybrid plants in which you splice the top of a weed plant onto the bottom half of a hops plant and it will grow. Maybe I got the order reversed. It was years ago.

    There's no benefit other than the novelty of the plant. The hops don't get all weedy, and the weed doesn't get all hoppy. The plant can only be made by splicing; it cannot be cross bread.

    Anyway, the plants are similar enough to splice together, so I'm assuming that they have similar enough nutrition and care needs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    On the topic of growing, etc., I don't really know shit about weed, but I know a lot about tobacco. Are they similar at all?
    I don't think so, but I know fuck all about tobacco growing. I don't think growing baccy is particularly easy, the only black market is for cheaper imports thanks to our excessive tax. I've never met anyone who has ever grown baccy, that I'm aware of anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I don't think so, but I know fuck all about tobacco growing. I don't think growing baccy is particularly easy, the only black market is for cheaper imports thanks to our excessive tax. I've never met anyone who has ever grown baccy, that I'm aware of anyway.
    Where I grew up, all you'd see was tobacco fields everywhere. A lot of the farmers switched to grapes and vineyards after tobacco stopped being as profitable due to lower demand, etc. It's not that hard to grow, but you do have to prime it diligently or you won't get anything resembling a good yield.

    I also grew up about 20 minutes from Tobaccoville, North Carolina (wikipedia), the home of RJ Reynolds.
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    In terms of women, I used to think that I didn't have a type. At some point, I realized that around 80% of the women I've been involved with were very similar in build and characteristics. Anyone else experience this?
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    yes and no. i always have a default that i gravitate to the most. eastern european, western russian. polish czech german slavic bulgarian russian, that sort of thing. but my tastes change a lot based on whose important to me at the time. this is where my thing for black chicks a while back came from. ive also had it similar with asians and hispanics at different times. but i inevitably move back to the eastern bloc women.
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    That's fair.

    I thought I had a type, but then I learned desperate isn't a type.


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    the older i get the less requirements i have for an ideal mate. that said, it's not like i'm actively looking. i often wonder what it would feel like to date again, the concept is so foreign.
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    You mean I'm not the only saddo loner here?

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    more so because of the silly concept of monogamy, but pretty much the same thing.
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    more so because of the silly concept of monogamy, but pretty much the same thing.
    I feel you.
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    Not to go off on a big gender dynamics discussion, but one of the problems facing various types of non-monogamy is that it's made out to be a joke or the source of abuse in popular culture. See Mormon Fundamentalists, any TV show about a polygynist family, etc. Also problematic is that the polyamory community, the largest sub-culture for any type of non-monogamy, generally looks down on any type of "closed" relationship between multiple people as well (ie: a group of people who do not have relationships or sex outside of the group).

    A related piece of information that some people may find interesting is that the "pick up artist," "red pill," and "manosphere" groups virtually unanimously reject non-monogamy. You'd think that these groups would be all about some pro-polygyny, but very little theory for it has been developed on any meaningful level aside from managing multiple fuck-buddy type relationships.

    For the consideration of people reading this, 8,000 Years Ago, 17 Women Reproduced for Every One Man, and it wasn't because the number of men and women were so different (though this did affect a small part of that).
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    Suspicious interpretation of "no debate" you've got there, spoon. Didn't realize we could just bulldoze out our controversial opinions without fear of reprisal here. How nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
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    Suspicious interpretation of "no debate" you've got there, spoon. Didn't realize we could just bulldoze out our controversial opinions without fear of reprisal here. How nice.
    Nothing I've said is debatable so far.
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    I'll walk that back a bit and clarify. You're treading on provocative subjects and it's difficult to see how we can discuss it while avoiding debate. It's like working at a call center for comcast and being forced to be pleasant and cordial to all callers. You can only keep up the act so long.

    Particularly...

    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    For the consideration of people reading this, 8,000 Years Ago, 17 Women Reproduced for Every One Man, and it wasn't because the number of men and women were so different (though this did affect a small part of that).
    I find this to be a tremendously interesting subject to explore, but it's one of those things, I suspect, where as you dig deeper and deeper into it, you realize how little is justifiably known and how much are people filling in the gaps with guesses.

    But, I'm not able to dig deeper and deeper. I'm just able to read an article and be left with my guesses. My guesses which may disagree with your guesses... and what do you think happens then?
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    Sounds like you should take it to an appropriate thread.
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    I don't really see why we still have laws against polygamy. The law respects equality when it comes to lesbians and bummers, so why can't three consenting adults have a relationship that suits them? What right has the law got to say to those people that what they are doing is immoral? Equality my fucking arse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I don't really see why we still have laws against polygamy. The law respects equality when it comes to lesbians and bummers, so why can't three consenting adults have a relationship that suits them? What right has the law got to say to those people that what they are doing is immoral? Equality my fucking arse.
    Historically and in modern times, polygamy almost always becomes polygyny, partially because females tend to exhibit hypergamy while men tend to prefer the opposite. Another contributing factor is that women tend to prefer serial monogamy.

    With these conditions, open polygamy leaves an underclass of men who can't get women because the women "on their level" have a better guy than them. This underclass, which can easily reach a majority or near majority, is thought to become violent and revolt. Therefore, we have the convention of monogamy to try to damper that effect, even though men with means are often non-monogamous.
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    Fathers day on Sunday. My gf adsked me what I'd like to do.

    My initial though (which I didn't share) was that I'd like her and the kids to go away for the weekend so I could do whatever I wanted without being interupted, which would probably be play xbox all day and maybe watch a movie that she wouldn't be interested in.

    Which got me thinking.

    If asked what I want to do this is often my go to thought, and I mean it, it is actually what I'd like to do. But on the occassions I get it, I always find it completely unsatisfying, maybe even boring, but regardless, once it's over and I go back to normal life I still crave it again. And I don't know why I crave something that every time I get I find unsatisfyuing.

    And btw, I love my kids and family and enjoy hanging out with them and doing stuff, just in case you're about to judge me for wanting them all to go away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    Historically and in modern times, polygamy almost always becomes polygyny, partially because females tend to exhibit hypergamy while men tend to prefer the opposite. Another contributing factor is that women tend to prefer serial monogamy.

    With these conditions, open polygamy leaves an underclass of men who can't get women because the women "on their level" have a better guy than them. This underclass, which can easily reach a majority or near majority, is thought to become violent and revolt. Therefore, we have the convention of monogamy to try to damper that effect, even though men with means are often non-monogamous.
    I had to look up the difference between polygamy and polygyny. Polygamy refers to people with multiple spouses, polygyny refers to men with multiple wives. Yes, I can see polygyny is likely to be by far the most common form of polygamy. It must be very difficult for two (non-bisexual) men to share one wife.

    The concept that single men become violent is beyond me. I have been single for six years or so now, not once have I been motivated into violence in an attempt to address this issue. If I wanted a girlfriend, I know what I need to do... get a job, or at the very least get out more or sign up to dating sites. Lashing out at society is not the solution, and hating women is the worst thing I could do.

    The thing is, if the law recognises the right of men to marry other men, based on the concept that an adult should not be controlled when it comes to private matters such as this, then polygamy should also be recognised as a right. Why should a man not have the right to have two wives, based purely on the potentially aggressive reaction of men who can't get laid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    Fathers day on Sunday. My gf adsked me what I'd like to do.

    My initial though (which I didn't share) was that I'd like her and the kids to go away for the weekend so I could do whatever I wanted without being interupted, which would probably be play xbox all day and maybe watch a movie that she wouldn't be interested in.

    Which got me thinking.

    If asked what I want to do this is often my go to thought, and I mean it, it is actually what I'd like to do. But on the occassions I get it, I always find it completely unsatisfying, maybe even boring, but regardless, once it's over and I go back to normal life I still crave it again. And I don't know why I crave something that every time I get I find unsatisfyuing.

    And btw, I love my kids and family and enjoy hanging out with them and doing stuff, just in case you're about to judge me for wanting them all to go away.
    Getting it for just a few hours might be a good option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I had to look up the difference between polygamy and polygyny. Polygamy refers to people with multiple spouses, polygyny refers to men with multiple wives. Yes, I can see polygyny is likely to be by far the most common form of polygamy. It must be very difficult for two (non-bisexual) men to share one wife.

    The concept that single men become violent is beyond me. I have been single for six years or so now, not once have I been motivated into violence in an attempt to address this issue. If I wanted a girlfriend, I know what I need to do... get a job, or at the very least get out more or sign up to dating sites. Lashing out at society is not the solution, and hating women is the worst thing I could do.

    The thing is, if the law recognises the right of men to marry other men, based on the concept that an adult should not be controlled when it comes to private matters such as this, then polygamy should also be recognised as a right. Why should a man not have the right to have two wives, based purely on the potentially aggressive reaction of men who can't get laid?
    If millions of men wanted access to women, and simply weren't given a chance to try because they weren't available for the attempt, that's more along the lines of when they're thought to become violent. It's just like when people don't have enough food and revolution happens, in theory.

    A lot of men who want multiple women will always be able to get it in a monogamist-primary society if they want to work for it imo. Can you think of many men who are popular, in politics, an actor or sports star, etc., where you'd be surprised if he had like four or five women? Of course not. The "rules" don't apply to people who break them, and very few places in the US, for example, have legal means to go after people who practice polygamy without legal marriage (which is a relatively new concept in and of itself).
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    Spoon, doesn't work. Most modern games require a lot of time. So a long weekend with 10-20 hrs game play is worthwhile but a few hours here and there just don't cut it.

    I think I'm basically quitting gaming. Getting old I guess.
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    Could you settle for playing games all day, with minor interruptions?

    A request to just relax, and play games without worrying about the kids is reasonable. But the "without any interruptions" part sounds harsh, and may be considered to be going against the spirit of father's day. This day is celebrate u being a father afterall, and kicking everybody out rejects that premise.
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    Yeah because the craving is really to sit and play video games all day...
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    Well, mostof the games I play are violent and involve me killing people /monsters /animals and I won't let me 4 and 6 yr old see it (well Laura won't anyway) so can't play around them, besides which it would be shitty as the kids will want nothing more than to hang out with me.

    But my point was more about how I crave something that every time I get is ultimately unsatisfying, yet I crave it anyway.
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