Ned is captured... it was the cliffhanger of 7... LF betrays him.
05-31-2011 03:29 PM
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Ned is captured... it was the cliffhanger of 7... LF betrays him. | |
05-31-2011 03:38 PM
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well he has the knife to his neck but idk i assumed they were gonna continue the fight but i guess ur probably right the ep will probably start with him in some dungeon | |
05-31-2011 03:55 PM
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I feel like Ned isn't really captured. It's possible that he's the most powerful man in the realm in that I think he has more allegiances than anybody. If they hold him against his will for too long, it's total war. If they kill him it's total war. And if he opens his mouth about the incest, the Lannisters lose. I think Ned still has the upper hand, and possibly LF didn't even betray him, but is putting on the appearance for a double double or something. The Lannisters seized power quickly because they're the underdogs. Not to mention that Tyrion might easily be again apprehended by Lady Stark if she gets news quickly enough. Lannisters may be the richest, but I think Ned has the allegiances of like 3x the houses |
05-31-2011 06:54 PM
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LF betrayed him... he whispered "I told you that you shouldn't have trusted me" or something along those lines in Ned's ear... if it was a double double cross setup, why would he say such a line that only Ned could hear? | |
05-31-2011 07:12 PM
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For the audience |
05-31-2011 07:16 PM
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wait y'all think the Uncle is one of the creatures? | |
05-31-2011 07:49 PM
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05-31-2011 08:04 PM
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Snow's uncle is a Stark right? | |
05-31-2011 08:05 PM
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Not sure. I'm still trying to figure out the whole Jarah Varys Illyio thing or whatever |
05-31-2011 08:15 PM
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Idk, the "told you not to trust me" seemed to be showing that his allegiance is not to the Starks. The whole "told you not to trust me, and you shouldn't have cuz I betrayed you, but seriously I'm on your side and was just teaching you an elaborate lesson in espionage and medieval politics!" dynamic is jut a bit too much. I mean, maybe they could pull it off, but I just can't see it. | |
05-31-2011 08:46 PM
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Oh yeah that would be dumb, but it could be a play because LF thinks it would be best to make the Lannisters think he's on their side. I see the possibility of LF playing a really long and tricky game, which could mean many things he does are for appearances. What I don't see is LF obviously picking sides and sticking with them. Everything has got to be a scheme to him |
05-31-2011 08:49 PM
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yep, I agree with your thoughts on LF and his motivations. So sad I have to wait another week for more GoT.. Prob gonna go waste a few hours in the 2p2 thread now.. | |
05-31-2011 10:21 PM
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LF's people were attacking the queens men so idk how that would make them think that he was on the Lannisters side, unless you are assuming that Stark had control of those men and had them attack the queens men and that LF is just all alone and just trying to jump in on the Lannister side (not the impression i got but possible) | |
05-31-2011 10:31 PM
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LF's men did not attack Cersei's men, they attacked Ned's men. | |
06-01-2011 12:01 AM
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so LF paid the golden knights or w/e to eliminate the rest of Starks men? when stark had already come to LF saying "the queens men are too strong for just my men"....?!? | |
06-01-2011 12:38 AM
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06-01-2011 04:02 AM
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Rewatched the latest ep. I think LF's betrayal is because he didn't want the "so it's Stannis and war?" option. I think he either wants to usurp power for himself somehow, or become the behind the scenes king like a Goldman Sachs. So the throne game isn't just Lannister vs Stark/Baratheon vs Dothraki. Throw LF in there IMO |
06-01-2011 10:43 AM
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why can't it just be purely b/c he wants Stark's woman? | |
06-01-2011 12:25 PM
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Hmm, question. I'm reading your comments here and wondering are the series following the story in George R.R. Martins books, or was something changed drastically? I never read any of his books, though I would want to. |
06-01-2011 12:32 PM
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yes they are following the series, there are a few minor changes but nothing drastic the script is almost directly from the book which is awesome. | |
06-02-2011 11:24 PM
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hmmm wonder if hbo is trying to catch torrent sharers cuz theres a fake eztv ep 8 just put up on tpb |
06-03-2011 12:52 AM
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def enjoying the series but part of me wants to stop watching it and marathon session s1 | |
06-03-2011 02:08 AM
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06-06-2011 05:34 AM
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zommbbiiiieeessss | |
06-06-2011 12:13 PM
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ya, I really like the direction they took with the zombies... while I do like the fast zombie style, I just don't think it would have fit for GoT. Also, theres just something about fat zombies that is awesome. Like the grocery store scene in Zombieland, that was so clutch. | |
06-07-2011 02:24 AM
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I now no longer think Benjen will be found a White Walker. They kinda killed doing that right with the zombie reveal in this ep. So now IMO Benjen should be some kind of alive and hiding. Maybe the WW didn't kill him for some mystical reason, maybe they don't even know he's out there just barely hiding |
06-07-2011 02:32 AM
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I also feel like the Lannisters shouldn't be strong enough to beat back the armies of the north and what should become of the Baratheons and Arryn loyalties. It shouldn't be much of a competition, so far the show has made it seem like on the main land the vast majority of the loyalties are Baratheon/Stark. If the story goes this direction I expect them to still make the Sansa/Joffrey marriage for purpose of peace so they can battle the Dothraki with unity. I would write it as the Lannisters slowly start losing, but Ned goes out of his way to make peace to end the bloodshed and prepare for the Doth. I mostly roll really traditional lines in storytelling though |
06-07-2011 03:09 PM
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LF and Varys look to be two opposites of the same coin. Both smart savvy tricky powerful etc all in the same way, they want the same thing but opposites. Varys wants war between Stark and Lannister so as to usher in the Dothraki. LF is the only person who knows he's conspiring with foreign dignitaries. LF, OTOH, wants peace and thinks the best way to do that is Lannister rule. This is because he won't have much power under a Doth rule. Looks to me like what Varys does is for the benefit of the Doth, and what LF does contrasts that |
06-07-2011 03:26 PM
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Wow, I think that is the most false post you have ever made. | |
06-07-2011 04:13 PM
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We'll see. Varys carrying out the orders doesn't have to be what it seems. Daenerys dying or just an attempt on her life would have the same effects its had. How do you explain Varys becoming noticeably uncomfortable when LF mentions the foreign dignitaries? |
06-07-2011 05:51 PM
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also i thought it was varys who arya saw walking through the dungeons talking about killing the hand of the king and the lion and the wolf going to war etc | |
06-07-2011 05:57 PM
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yes that was varys. the show suggest that was the meeting/convo lf knows about too |
06-08-2011 07:54 PM
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Apparently over on Television Without Pity, several posters are running a strong similar line to mine on the Varys/Dothraki invasion thing. FWIW, the Completely Unspoiled Speculation thread is much better than the 2p2 one. I almost don't wanna read it because I think some of their macro speculations are probably very accurate. A bunch of pro-TV goers or something |
06-09-2011 10:20 AM
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meh, I think the zombies are awesome and don't feel forced on the show. As long as people don't start casting fireball spells and riding dragons, I'm cool with it. | |
06-09-2011 03:06 PM
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I'm mainly referring to speculation by people who don't know what's going to happen, but it makes a whole bunch of sense and they might be right |
06-09-2011 03:46 PM
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srsly lold at this |
06-09-2011 04:01 PM
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Ya, that .gif is great. In the 2p2 thread there are a bunch of arrested development GoT verticals that are awesome. | |
06-09-2011 04:15 PM
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yeah dude do you know the source of the GoT AD stuff? Shit is funnier than it should be |
06-09-2011 05:04 PM
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Nah, I have no sauce. | |
06-09-2011 07:48 PM
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I feel like I want Ned to die by way of public execution at the order of Joffrey/Cersei. That's hard to swallow because he's such a hero and fan favorite, but it's also the right way to write a story like this IMO. You gotta make the real hard decisions that reflect reality instead of fantasy justice, and replace the fallen hero with a new hero (like Robb) |
06-09-2011 08:01 PM
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Ya, I'm with you man. I don't think Ned will die, and on one hand I don't want him to, but on the other I think it would probably make for a better story. I think there are ways to write it where he doesn't die, but the writing is as respectable as him dieing... I just think its much more difficult.. third levelish, yanoe? | |
06-09-2011 11:12 PM
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On the flip side, I feel like they're not gonna kill Ned. It's fucking Sean Bean and he's on the cover. Some posts over on TWP are really making a case for that too. Like how the Sansa pleading wouldn't have happened if Cersei wasn't looking for a reason to spare him. A post made on there included |
06-10-2011 12:17 AM
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I mean, they certainly can't kill him this season, so I guess that would mean they can't kill him in this story arc. And I think Cersei can try to get Ned to bow to Joffrey, but also reserve the possibility that she will have to kill him if he doesn't kneel. | |
06-10-2011 12:36 AM
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i wish i could post in this thread still, but after reading the book its just not right to do so =( | |
06-13-2011 12:42 AM
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well it appears that no character is safe on this show | |
06-13-2011 01:41 AM
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whoa.. | |
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06-13-2011 01:45 AM
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06-13-2011 03:31 AM
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This was the ep they submitted for the Emmy's, I think. |
06-13-2011 03:43 AM
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Oh I understand the blood magic thing now. Sorta. Her baby's gonna be born in that shit, and there will be something very special, perhaps monstrous, about him/her |
06-13-2011 04:29 AM
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it's pretty much confirmed bullshit... google turns up pretty much nothing. | |
06-13-2011 10:46 AM
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I wish I could think about things like others can but I typically just regurgitate cool things others find. | |
06-13-2011 11:11 AM
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the stag was the baratheon symbol (lannisters are the lion)...and him (ned) going down to help the stag (king robert) ended up killing him so it was definitely some foreshadowing....i knew that it was going to be a bad omen, i just didnt think he actually was going to die. | |
06-13-2011 02:39 PM
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As Drogo was dying, I was getting the thought of the epicness of him dying yet Daenerys somehow retaining power. I doubt it will happen because I can't figure out a single plausible way to write it, but that would be a slam fucking dunk if R.R. could pull that shit off. He would have to truly bring out Dany's greatness of character to get it done. She did excellently in this episode, even. Only way I could think of getting it done would involve Jorah being her champion and defeating all comers, but that doesn't flow well at all. There would have to be something we don't yet know about that changes things. So IMO they can't kill of Drogo yet because without him they lose half the story arc |
06-13-2011 03:06 PM
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I'd also like to see Jon Snow desert. Everything he does is balls to the wall. After he hears of his father's killing, I think he has to desert to go avenge the murder, and the writers just gotta know how to make it work |
06-13-2011 03:09 PM
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Also, I had the thought from the very beginning, but it appears others are getting it too |
06-13-2011 04:20 PM
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Stark's youngest daughter gonna be Lara Croft/French resistance chick ? | |
06-13-2011 10:59 PM
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06-13-2011 11:06 PM
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I've found book readers in 2p2 thread spoiling more than they know. It's minor stuff so I guess I don't care, but an example will be when a book reader says "oh neato I like how they did so n so's character", what he's really saying is "expect so n so to stick around for a while". Curiously, I didn't see too many of those posts about Ned, and that was part of why I expected him to not be a main character as the story deepens |
06-14-2011 03:31 AM
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yea i feel ya, ill refrain from it in future | |
06-14-2011 09:48 AM
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YouTube - ‪As Good As It Gets‬‏ | |
06-14-2011 04:35 PM
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EASY T SITING | |
06-14-2011 06:06 PM
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totally did not expect stark to lose his head - wtf | |
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06-14-2011 08:02 PM
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Just had a thought. Snow and Jorah will have a face off. Or more like, they will almost have a face off, but Jorah will notice his father's blade, and that will be the beginning of some long and important alliances |
06-16-2011 06:03 AM
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I wanna join this thread but I've read the books. I shall leave you be, enjoy people, enjoy. | |
06-16-2011 10:05 AM
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Whilst we wait for more theories and the last episode... Let's hear your favorite quotes from Season 1. Mine might just be this one -- | |
06-16-2011 12:29 PM
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06-16-2011 12:30 PM
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i already quoted my favorite, where robert smacked cersei and then she was like "ill wear it as a badge of honor" and he said "where it in silence or ill honor you again" rofl | |
06-16-2011 12:44 PM
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06-16-2011 02:38 PM
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no |
06-16-2011 02:46 PM
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screenshots of walkers. im sorry but that shit is creepy |
06-16-2011 03:34 PM
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that is the quote you picked wuf?!?!? .....-_____________________- | |
06-16-2011 03:34 PM
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and yes i understand that was when she first started to come to power and realize her own strength and it was the first time drogo saw her as more than just a piece of bed meat...still doesnt mean it was a cool quote. | |
06-16-2011 04:51 PM
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somebody getting raped stops getting raped by loving the man raping her. sounds pretty epic to me. that whole side story was one of the best in show, and that line summed it up quite well |
06-20-2011 03:33 AM
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holy shit... this shit just got real. | |
06-20-2011 04:05 AM
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At the risk of scrunching up my panties and jamming them up my dandy, I'm not entirely thrilled. I find a likely disconnect between "A Song of Ice and Fire" and "Game of Thrones". I want to watch a game of thrones. The story smacked the shit out of every other show on that alone, but the magic and fire and ice seems to be overtaking it all. |