This show is so fucking dull when watched on a week by week basis. Great to marathon but dull dull dull when spread out.
05-11-2015 04:29 PM
#1951
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This show is so fucking dull when watched on a week by week basis. Great to marathon but dull dull dull when spread out. | |
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05-11-2015 06:17 PM
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05-11-2015 06:23 PM
#1953
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it doesnt help that this season is not that good. |
05-12-2015 12:48 AM
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Maybe I'm a fan boy, I don't know, but I think you all are fucking crazy. | |
05-12-2015 02:56 AM
#1955
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I'm watching Mad men weekly now, the show delivers. I mean practically nothing happens but it works. I'm finding the complete opposite with got. | |
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05-12-2015 09:16 AM
#1956
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It's still the best thing on TV. I'm thoroughly enjoying it. It's an epos, that's why it tells its story slowly. Near the end of the season is when shit always hits the fan. | |
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05-12-2015 02:02 PM
#1957
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I like the season just fine. | |
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05-12-2015 03:54 PM
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The issue is that with the stuff they're changing, they're not actually making it better. I think they set up divergences but then waddle back to book plots. It's a little messy and it contributes to why people are confused about motivations of some of the characters. |
05-13-2015 12:52 PM
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The boltons are so unlikeable, downright cringey it has to be done on purpose. I guess Geoff's death left some shoes to fill. | |
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05-13-2015 09:22 PM
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05-13-2015 10:45 PM
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05-14-2015 01:21 AM
#1962
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I mean I think the issue is that so many game-changing deaths have occurred that Westoros and the show creators are in this period of sifting through the pretenders. | |
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05-14-2015 02:25 AM
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05-14-2015 04:20 AM
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It seems they like to build lots of stories and have them climax simultaneously, even when they don't necessarily interact with each other. Which means lots of slow episodes. It's a shame they can't have different arcs reaching points of interest at different times but they seem to love having a couple of episodes where the entire world has simultaneously simultaneous climaxes. | |
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05-14-2015 12:24 PM
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05-14-2015 03:50 PM
#1966
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Which ones? | |
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05-14-2015 04:41 PM
#1967
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hey let me just lend this bastard and some unruly folk my navy while im fighting a war |
05-14-2015 04:44 PM
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i thought ep4 was fine, but did not like 1-3 and hated ep5. but i think it's possible the reason behind that is this is where D&D are transitioning into fully new territory. they're workign with the source but also not, it's weird. im expecting things to get better tbh, and i wouldnt be surprised if the last two seasons are much better |
05-14-2015 04:52 PM
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Wuf I think yer just being that guy. You know, hate everything that deviates from the books. | |
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05-14-2015 04:54 PM
#1970
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The Dany arc is to show that she's every shred of the decisive leader. She's not picked at by the wolves of Meereenese culture. When she bows to it, it's her choice for her reasons on her terms. Typical girl power shortcut. I'm fine with this because the struggle between old families and new Dany in the books takes 4fugging ever. | |
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05-14-2015 05:09 PM
#1971
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Haha yeah all good points. I mean all except parading the girl around kinda make sense. But they're also all a bit stupid. | |
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05-14-2015 05:10 PM
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Oh new posts. | |
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05-14-2015 06:05 PM
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05-14-2015 06:47 PM
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My favorite parts of this season are deviations from the books. |
05-14-2015 06:49 PM
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05-14-2015 07:54 PM
#1976
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I vaguely remember some quote from the old dame from the flower house about how the people need the escapism of weddings for the distraction or else they get restless. Maybe she's following the same thought. The pits as a spectacle to show a return to normalcy and a wedding to show solidarity among the leadership. | |
Last edited by a500lbgorilla; 05-14-2015 at 07:57 PM. | |
05-15-2015 09:55 PM
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The biggest problem with this season is that they diverted from their formula. | |
05-17-2015 11:34 PM
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Liked this episode a lot. |
05-18-2015 08:16 AM
#1979
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Will watch tonight. I hoping for more aria, more Jamie and more tyrrion. | |
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05-18-2015 12:31 PM
#1980
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Disappointing when we don't see updates on key characters like Daenerys Targaryen, Jon Snow, Stannis Baratheon and Brienne. | |
05-18-2015 05:18 PM
#1981
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If Mad Men was a slow, comfortable, gentle but firm, caress filled, fuck with someone you care about and know just how to please then Game of Thrones would be finding a unsuspecting bitch jogging in a park, dragging her into a bush and raping her in the ass. | |
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05-19-2015 01:23 AM
#1982
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Mr. Ecko though! | |
05-19-2015 02:59 AM
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05-19-2015 09:46 AM
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Well things just sped up! Great episode. Only the part with Jamie was a bit silly. They just approached the Lannister girl in broad daylight when she wasn't even alone? I mean they came so far just to blow it like that? And then these 3 supposed kick-ass sisters showed up, who just look clumsy? Unconvincing. All the rest was great though. I like the faith guys, Littlefinger spinning stuff again (what side is he on?), Tyrion in action, Arya growing into her new role as nameless and then Sansa getting sucked into the madness. That girl just can't catch a break. | |
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05-19-2015 06:18 PM
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Arya stuff was p sweet. Jbear and Tyrion was also sweet. | |
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05-19-2015 11:03 PM
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jack and rilla, I think both your complaints can simply be chalked up to needing to trim fat for the show to actually make it to our screens. GoT has been really good at not having this show, but these two simply seem to be cases of underdeveloped plot lines and character arcs due to lack of overall screen time to go around to all the stories. Because the show has been so good, I tend to treat this like a reverse book, instead of using my imagination to flesh out the visual world, I'm using it to flesh out the leader of the fanatics deviation from his absolutism in favor of power, all the while deceiving himself into believing it is anything but that. | |
05-20-2015 12:32 AM
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I had this hope that Sansa was growing out of the victim stage and am kind of annoyed that we had another GoT rape scene. | |
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05-20-2015 12:37 AM
#1988
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Upset by rape scene; disappointed with lack of violent death of beloved character scene. | |
05-20-2015 12:42 AM
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05-20-2015 01:16 AM
#1990
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how you can connect the 2 makes zero sense. | |
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05-20-2015 06:29 PM
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Sansa's story has heavily strayed from what GRRM wrote. D&D have turned her into a side character. That scene had nothing to do with her. She has no arc. She is perpetual victim. We were told this from the beginning with her wolf dying, but it was too easy to ignore and too easy to see some grand learning experience for her. |
05-20-2015 06:45 PM
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05-20-2015 06:54 PM
#1993
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I'm hoping she'll toughen up from this experience and starts to take control of her life for once (not that I agree with the rape story at all, BTW... I mean, she knew it was going to happen and still stayed, all because of LittleFinger). |
05-20-2015 09:43 PM
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I have a feeling that you cannot comprehend the link because you harbor irrationally imbalanced feelings regarding these two acts of violence. | |
05-20-2015 09:48 PM
#1995
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In the context of GoT, rapes happen. | |
Last edited by baudib; 05-20-2015 at 09:52 PM.
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05-20-2015 10:08 PM
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One type of violence is acceptable to further the story, another isn't. Ok, I think this is a poor stance, but fine-- Oh, wait, that forbidden type of violence is acceptable so long as the source material included it? Let me get this straight. Diverging from the source material, as has been done plenty (from what I understand): Ok. Depicting a specific type of rape: Ok. Diverging from the source material in a way that ends up depicting that exactly same specific rape scenario: Resolutely NOT OK! | |
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05-20-2015 10:47 PM
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You can do whatever you want to your heroine as long as it isn't rape. Once it is rape, the audience sees her as weak and dominated and it subverts her role as the agent of her own destiny. I don't mean this as an opinion, but description of the history of cinema. I can't imagine a heroine getting raped and the audience's interest in her story not dying with it. It shouldn't be that way, but it appears to be. |
05-20-2015 11:43 PM
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Hey, so, umm, there's a book thread. Like, I appreciate your insight on this topic, but there is plenty of insight to be made without referencing the books. Seriously, you've been booking up this thread for pages now, and I'm not sure why you think it's ok. While I do think you're smart enough to not spoil, that doesn't give you a special pass to reference the book ITT, because no matter how good you are at not spoiling, it creates an atmosphere in which book talk is tolerated or even encouraged. In your last post, you have a ton to say and can make your point all without talking about the books, so why must you constantly do so? | |
05-21-2015 12:00 AM
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You should give us more credit than that. The show is almost entirely caught up on the books. In fact it's beyond the books with regards to Sansa, which is why I even said anything. |
05-21-2015 12:46 AM
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Right, but this is the show thread. There is a book thread. There are still two threads. People click this thread to discuss the show. I would assume in the other thread you guys talk about both the show and the books. Why do you think your book related insights belong in this thread as opposed to the other? Your assurances don't change any of these facts. | |
05-21-2015 08:54 AM
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lol@ rational discussion | |
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05-21-2015 09:27 AM
#2002
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Wasn't Jamie a one armed bandit by then? I thought it made sense him raping her given that he was being made to feel weak and needed to reassert his dominance. | |
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05-21-2015 05:54 PM
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I dont get the fuss over the Sansa rape scene, because I dont see how it furthers the victim storyline yall be upset about. | |
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05-21-2015 06:46 PM
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I have expressed zero book-related insights here. It has been entirely show. |
05-21-2015 11:20 PM
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So stop talking about the books. Stop talking about what is and isn't in the books. Again, I think you're smart enough to discuss the show without spoiling whatever is left to potentially spoil, but this still remains the show thread. You're being a huge asshat by thinking that since it is now you who has read the books, you can reference them in here. Whether there are major book spoilers left or not, there just is no reason to have that discussion here. Case in point: you're not making these posts in OOTV's GoT thread, and you won't because that thread is heavily moderated and you wouldn't get away with it. | |
05-21-2015 11:32 PM
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You're really going to serve up this weak sauce? Yes you can feel however you want and have whatever opinion you want-- but when you bring those feelings and opinions into a discussion, they are liable to be challenged. Retreating back to "I can think whatever I want to think!" is pitiful. | |
05-21-2015 11:38 PM
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05-21-2015 11:44 PM
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Right, because seeing Ramsay flay men alive or cut their penises off or have his ex-lover's eaten by dogs didn't drive home the villain part. | |
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05-21-2015 11:53 PM
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I'm not at all jazzed with this show's ability to write rape, but some of the cultural fascism is getting out of hand with protesting the use of rape in fiction at all. In a show like game of thrones which consistently pushes the envelope (something I'm in favor of) but isn't a particularly good show (something I'm against), it's hard for me to pick a side on an issue like this. I think I'll pick the side that doesn't have radical feminists on it, for now. | |
05-22-2015 12:27 AM
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I have done nothing of which you accuse me. The only reference of the books I have made is of the divergence. A reference everybody has made many times, and I thought was kosher. I can't say if I shit in your salad, but seriously, there's no need to imagine the worst. I did not do what you say I did. |
05-22-2015 12:28 PM
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I might come off as an asshole here, but can someone explain how the Sansa scene was actually a rape? | |
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05-22-2015 12:32 PM
#2012
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She didn't say yes! Have you not been reading spoon's posts I'm the rando thread? | |
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05-22-2015 09:04 PM
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05-22-2015 09:09 PM
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She didn't exactly have a choice with Baelish, and she certainly didn't think she was agreeing to rough sex in front of the broken shell of the man who was once like a brother and now who she believes brutally murdered he two young brothers. | |
05-22-2015 09:27 PM
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Again, why do you insist that rape is the straw that broke the camels back? It's hard to say, because I haven't experienced either, but I would hazard a guess that severe genital mutilation is objectively worse of an act of violence to suffer than rape. So why is rape the place for outrage? If you're upset at all the dark shit in this show, fine-- but that's not how it's coming across. | |
05-22-2015 09:47 PM
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I think it's bookreaders trying to preempt claims that they're posting with extra knowledge. |
05-22-2015 11:18 PM
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Yeah, I mean, I think we've gotten too deep into this, and in the end it doesn't really matter. You're a good dude, and I like seeing your posts in this thread and others. I get where you're coming from in regards to framing any predictions so that people don't think you're spoiling. | |
05-24-2015 10:17 PM
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Disappointed in this one. Not enough rape or Bronn death. | |
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05-25-2015 12:29 AM
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05-25-2015 01:07 AM
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Loved it. Finally going places. Bronn death would have been terrible. I can't see a single good reason to kill him. |
05-25-2015 02:21 AM
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I originally figured Melisandre would sacrifice Shireen somehow without Stannis knowing it, but now that he knows it, I don't see any way he can do it. He would become the biggest villain of the series if he allowed that. Fans would hate him worse than Ramsay or Joffrey for killing his sweet daughter. There's no way he can do it. |
05-25-2015 08:32 AM
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05-26-2015 04:58 PM
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Finally watched Sunday's episode last night (was out of town and didn't bother with hbo go). | |
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05-26-2015 11:48 PM
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Looks like I was wrong, and Sansa is just always gonna be a victim. Le sigh. | |
05-27-2015 03:02 AM
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Lovely episode. Started slowly, but did bring up strong emotions and development for many characters. |