baudib, if you read the ootv thread or the twop thread, both of which are strictly moderated against book spoilers, you will see that a ton of interesting and fruitful discussion happens. Esp in the twop thread which is far more strictly moderated.

The thing is, if you want to know what is (very likely) going to happen, then you can simply read the books, read cliff notes of the books, read any of several dozen decent book-spoilers-allowed threads (including one on this very forum) and so on. But there are also people who would like to discuss the show, without book readers tainting their experience. There are people who enjoy speculation and are ok with being wrong in their predictions.

So yes, now that we have two threads, if you want to know the answers without a doubt, go read the book thread which is on this very forum, or go read some wikis, or spoiler threads on other forums, etc. I keep reading this thread because I like FTR and there have been moves made to facilitate both a book-knowledge-included and a spoiler-free thread. Why you and others seem to be so against the idea of a spoiler free thread is beyond me.