Do any of you see an issue of Islamism in the UK?
06-07-2017 08:02 PM
#6601
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Do any of you see an issue of Islamism in the UK? |
06-07-2017 08:16 PM
#6602
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06-07-2017 08:20 PM
#6603
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Just wanna know what you make of it is all. |
06-07-2017 08:37 PM
#6604
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It's up there with worrying about getting hit by lightning. |
06-07-2017 08:47 PM
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Labour are definitely winning where I live, I'd vote for the guy anyway as he's the best option even if you disagree with labour nationally. No other party is remotely interesting to vote for & me voting for them won't be the difference between them getting their money back or not (i.e. the importance of choice) so I'll probably either not vote or spoil my ballot. |
06-07-2017 08:52 PM
#6606
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Nassim Taleb has likened this to thin tailed whereas terrorism is fat tailed. |
06-07-2017 09:03 PM
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The issue is a lot of our muslim communities aren't a new or recent thing. They have been around for generations and have never really been an issue in the sense that they are being touted as now. Now most of our immigration is from the EU and not muslim and doesn't create issues anywhere near on the level that terrorism gets talked about. |
Last edited by Savy; 06-07-2017 at 09:05 PM. | |
06-07-2017 09:05 PM
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06-07-2017 09:11 PM
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Terrorism being the image of an asian person is a fairly new thing for one. |
Last edited by Savy; 06-07-2017 at 09:18 PM. | |
06-07-2017 09:20 PM
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06-07-2017 09:27 PM
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06-08-2017 08:17 AM
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It's all bollocks. "Islamic" Terrorism is not religious, it's political. The goons blowing themselves up think it's religious, but those ordering the attacks, it's politics. | |
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06-08-2017 01:27 PM
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It's no secret that a large amount of isis funding comes from the UAE but the say "Saudi Arabia" does this or that is hopelessly blunt. It's like saying England plays football or Germany makes cars. SA by the nature of its wealth has a lot of unfathomably stupid people in very powerful positions but that doesn't mean it's a mad villains stronghold. I do not know much at all about sand country but the royal saudi family directly funding isis doesn't sound very credible to me. | |
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06-08-2017 01:47 PM
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You might not worry much about lightning, but you're not going to go kiting in a thunderstorm either. Both are avoidable. What grinds my gears about this debate is that nobody on the left is willing to acknowledge that if you boot out all the muslims the chance of a terror attack approaches zero. Just that fact alone is so offensive you can't even say it. Once you are able to acknowledge that you can say: ok, we're obviously not deporting anyone based on faith or denying asylum from people that are being prosecuted, but now that we know where it's coming from we can talk about steps to solve the issue which could be anything from closing or generally disallowing religious schools of all kinds to making sure immigrant distribution is well thought out to avoid ghettos and aid immigration andworking closely with the mosques to make sure nothing funky is going on. | |
Last edited by oskar; 06-08-2017 at 01:51 PM.
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06-08-2017 03:45 PM
#6615
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I don't believe the bolded statement to be true in any way close to what you're implying. |
06-08-2017 03:48 PM
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06-08-2017 04:04 PM
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Pretty much this. It sounds like Oskar is saying that we can solve the problem of terrorism by simply changing the way we interact with Muslims and muslim countries. |
06-08-2017 04:44 PM
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On the topic of integration, for example of non-westernized Muslims becoming westernized, probably the way to get that is not having welfare such that they don't work. Work is what assimilates. Tons of different peoples have assimilated into countries not of their origin; what those who haven't seem to have in common is their host countries sponsor their dis-assimilation via welfare. |
06-08-2017 04:48 PM
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06-08-2017 04:53 PM
#6620
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Though the book is bad news, people seem complex enough that they can worship a book without actually following the book. Even a religion oriented around a Jew-slaughtering child rapist can yield people who disagree with that behavior as long as they have skin in the game regarding assimilating into a culture that doesn't support that behavior. |
06-08-2017 05:02 PM
#6621
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In America, just about all immigrants from Europe and Asia have assimilated and are assimilating into the American nation. Jews, Irish, Italians, Greeks, Filipinos, Chinese, etc.. Welfare culture was not popular for most of the immigration of our country, though that is now changing and there are emerging some problems of assimilation due to welfare, though that's only regarding immigrants in a small way. |
06-08-2017 05:14 PM
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Exit poll being right would make my month. Hilarious, absolute shit show. |
06-09-2017 06:36 AM
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Tory + DUP coalition? Nasty nasty. This will ened in tears. | |
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06-09-2017 06:41 AM
#6624
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It's funny, MSM were all over Jez during the election for his sympathies for the IRA. | |
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06-09-2017 09:56 AM
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06-09-2017 10:56 AM
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06-09-2017 11:10 AM
#6627
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After the disastrous campaign that May ran I'm surprised she didn't lose her bloody seat to Lord Buckethead | |
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06-09-2017 12:18 PM
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Buckethead? | |
06-09-2017 12:59 PM
#6629
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UKIP woulda got 500 seats if Uncle Nige was still in town. |
06-09-2017 08:46 PM
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06-09-2017 11:17 PM
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06-10-2017 12:14 PM
#6632
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Brussels could use a couple well-placed moabs |
06-12-2017 10:53 AM
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06-12-2017 04:28 PM
#6634
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This is a different Lord Buckethead (I assume). Some of his progressive ideals can be read about here: | |
06-12-2017 08:24 PM
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Sorry. I thought you meant this guy: | |
06-16-2017 08:52 AM
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07-05-2017 11:32 PM
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So Wuf (rip) a bit topic in parliament is how there is a cap on public sector workers pay rises at 1% and no matter what it can't go above this. Now like yourself I'm against the public sector somewhat but do you not think that this is the biggest load of bollocks possible* people should get pay rises based on what they deserve not some bullshit cap implemented by the government. |
07-05-2017 11:33 PM
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07-06-2017 10:38 AM
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According to most who know me, all I do is fuck off. | |
07-06-2017 01:25 PM
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From my experience, I'd say labor economics is the most neat and applicable economics class offered in colleges (outside of principles of micro 101). Something I learned from that class applicable here: my professor is in charge of all labor oriented things for the university. He explained to us how they distribute wage increases. A common idea is for them to be percentage based, but what this actually does is benefit those with the highest wage already the most, benefit the least those with the lowest pay already, costs the college a ton of money it doesn't have, and increases the perception of inequality and harms morale. An example showing these is how, if a 1% across the board wage increase strategy is utilized, a tenured professor who has been there 25 years making 150k would get a pay raise of 1.5k while an adjunct with only 5 years making 50k would get only 500 increase. |
07-17-2017 07:48 PM
#6641
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Y'all lookin' forward to the junior senator from Michigan, Kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid Rock? |
07-18-2017 10:58 AM
#6642
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Ive sort of already come to grips with the idea of celebrities becoming politicians. But this one really irks me. |
07-18-2017 11:29 AM
#6643
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You've basically summed up what every politician does. |
07-18-2017 01:24 PM
#6644
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I'm open to him because he passes the skin in the game test. Career politicians do not. |
07-18-2017 01:37 PM
#6645
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Last edited by BananaStand; 07-18-2017 at 01:42 PM. | |
07-18-2017 01:41 PM
#6646
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Under budget, ahead of schedule. |
07-18-2017 01:48 PM
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07-18-2017 02:29 PM
#6648
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07-18-2017 03:03 PM
#6649
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07-18-2017 03:22 PM
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To the right, politics is slimy and business success is virtuous. To the left, business is slimy and the path of politics is virtuous. To the right, you speak such that you don't back down from hard truths. To the left, you speak such that you don't offend anybody. In my best judgment, Trump's authenticity to his base is that he's not political, is the quintessence of personal business success, and doesn't back down from hard truths and doesn't care if it offends anybody. Opponents of Trump don't view those attributes as demonstrating to them authenticity. |
07-18-2017 03:24 PM
#6651
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From the outside, he looks like a circus act. From the inside, he exemplifies a strong leader. |
07-18-2017 03:32 PM
#6652
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Trump is as authentic as Trump University | |
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07-18-2017 05:05 PM
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07-18-2017 05:41 PM
#6654
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07-19-2017 10:28 AM
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I think is has more to do with Hillary's unpopularity rather than Trump's popularity. Can't say I like either, but I know which one I'd have voted for if push came to shove. | |
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07-19-2017 11:32 AM
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Fine, then I'll just take issue with the idea that Kid Rock is somehow the opposite of these things, giving him skin in the game. | |
07-19-2017 12:15 PM
#6657
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If there were an election being contested by Kid Rock and Satan, it'd be a landslide in favour of Satan. | |
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07-19-2017 12:45 PM
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07-19-2017 12:52 PM
#6659
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07-19-2017 01:05 PM
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07-19-2017 01:32 PM
#6661
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Tether to reality depends on why somebody is rich and famous. Kid Rock is rich and famous because he worked. He built a skill, business, brand that people wanted to buy. Are entertainers the best example of skin in the game? No, they may not even be in the top ten. But they're still significantly better an example of it than career politicians who have little experience with anything other than receiving donations and making laws that don't affect them. |
07-19-2017 02:22 PM
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Jesus fellas. The guy got famous somehow!! |
Last edited by BananaStand; 07-19-2017 at 02:27 PM. | |
07-19-2017 05:25 PM
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There's a lot of famous talentless twats. | |
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07-19-2017 05:37 PM
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I think you guys are arriving at the crux of the problem with current politics. | |
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07-19-2017 07:43 PM
#6665
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The DNC and donors have already chosen who will represent the Democrats in 2020. She has all the best qualifications: no accomplishments, corrupt, black, woman. |
07-19-2017 08:20 PM
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07-19-2017 11:13 PM
#6667
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What don't you like about her? |
07-19-2017 11:45 PM
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Things that are happening: |
Last edited by wufwugy; 07-20-2017 at 12:05 AM. | |
07-20-2017 12:52 AM
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07-20-2017 01:05 AM
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Def an abysmal pick when you also have Tulsy Gabbard, Nina Turner, The Ol' Bern, Keith Ellison, Elizaeth Warren etc. Even TwoFaced Shkreli-in-training Cory Booker is a better pick. | |
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07-20-2017 03:33 AM
#6671
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07-20-2017 06:27 AM
#6672
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They spend too much time watching tv shows where all these elaborate plans people have where everyone acts exactly as they should all pan out and the main character looks like a smart dude. In reality for anything bar the most trivial situations in life you basically have to wing it at every step, which you can do very well but it's not in any way the same. |
07-20-2017 08:40 AM
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07-20-2017 09:08 AM
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07-20-2017 09:08 AM
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