11-02-2016 09:01 PM
#3301
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11-02-2016 09:05 PM
#3302
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11-02-2016 09:07 PM
#3303
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11-02-2016 10:05 PM
#3304
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It's gotten to the point that you'd oppose me if I called your mom swell. |
11-03-2016 01:43 AM
#3305
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It's a difference without distinction, imo. | |
11-03-2016 02:07 AM
#3306
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11-03-2016 05:05 AM
#3307
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You bring up a good point here but seem to miss what it was. In the first example a single person decides something without majority consent, that is unjust. In the latter the decision is justified, if the majority agrees to it. Democracy in a nutshell. If the majority agrees that something is morally justified, then by definition it is. Somebody's jewelry has to go to pay for the roads and the army, I happen to think it's justified to take from each according to their ability rather than from each equally, since not everybody has jewelry. | |
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11-03-2016 05:41 AM
#3308
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Regulating eligibility is acceptable so long as it's applied without prejudice. We already do this. Children can't vote. We also don't allow convicts to vote, which I personally think is wrong, but it's applied uniformly so it's acceptable. When we start saying people of a certain political lean can't vote, that isn't acceptable. Or if we use intelligence as a guide, again I can't accept that. | |
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11-03-2016 06:29 AM
#3309
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Trump goes from 9:1 dog to 2:1 in 72 hours time. My boy surgin'! | |
11-03-2016 06:31 AM
#3310
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11-03-2016 04:00 PM
#3311
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Then let's change it to only three people exist: me, my buddy, and jewelry lady, and we take her jewelry. |
Last edited by wufwugy; 11-03-2016 at 04:09 PM. | |
11-03-2016 04:06 PM
#3312
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I want to make clear that this idea you expressed is itself a "political lean." The idea that people should not be restricted from voting based on intelligence is a political position. Granted, it is really hard to figure out some equitable way to regulate the vote well. In fact, I think it's ultimately a paradox and cannot be done, which is one of the many reasons why I think the solution involves a moving away from government in the first place. |
11-03-2016 04:08 PM
#3313
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11-03-2016 05:09 PM
#3314
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I understand my position is a political one. I'm not asking for any special privileges based on my political opinion though. I'm not saying those who differ in opinion shouldn't be allowed to vote. | |
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11-03-2016 05:13 PM
#3315
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The absolute best thing for the legitimacy of government would be if the key players in the Clinton Mafia Foundation corruption went to prison. This would mean Hillary and probably Obama among other politicians and staff. |
11-03-2016 05:17 PM
#3316
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11-03-2016 05:23 PM
#3317
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11-03-2016 05:36 PM
#3318
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Does not change a thing. Of course, if you mean that the 2 just take the jewelry and themselves provide nothing, most people would deem this unethical. Luckily with larger sample sizes people tend to converge to more fair views and would mandate different policies, as we see in modern societies. Again, this is democracy in full swing, you get what the people want. | |
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11-03-2016 05:37 PM
#3319
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11-03-2016 05:38 PM
#3320
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11-03-2016 05:39 PM
#3321
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11-03-2016 05:40 PM
#3322
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11-03-2016 05:41 PM
#3323
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11-03-2016 05:48 PM
#3324
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Definitely a ton that show the elements, but none that I've read that I can name from memory. |
11-03-2016 05:50 PM
#3325
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There may be other things in a society that matter to people besides having it achieve maximum productivity. | |
11-03-2016 05:51 PM
#3326
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11-03-2016 05:54 PM
#3327
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When we think in terms of what productivity is in essence (which is what I did), productivity is at the heart of everything people care about. Wanna be happy? Well you're gonna be less happy when the ways that happiness develops are less productive. |
11-03-2016 05:56 PM
#3328
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An example is that incentivizing people to leech off of other people makes them less productive at building quality character, and even less productive at finding satisfaction (on average). |
11-03-2016 05:59 PM
#3329
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11-03-2016 06:01 PM
#3330
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I believe this is the post where Adams explains it much better than I could |
11-03-2016 06:03 PM
#3331
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Having some small proportion of the population on welfare doesn't make me unhappy because that's one less CD I and everyone else could have bought that year with the miniscule amount of taxes we each contributed to it. | |
Last edited by Poopadoop; 11-03-2016 at 06:06 PM. | |
11-03-2016 06:05 PM
#3332
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11-03-2016 06:06 PM
#3333
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11-03-2016 06:06 PM
#3334
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11-03-2016 06:13 PM
#3335
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If I create a company, and then employ people to do all the work while I rake in the profit, I am leeching off people. | |
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11-03-2016 06:17 PM
#3336
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11-03-2016 06:18 PM
#3337
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11-03-2016 06:20 PM
#3338
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11-03-2016 06:21 PM
#3339
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TIL that when people have jobs because of you, you're leeching. |
11-03-2016 06:22 PM
#3340
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11-03-2016 06:23 PM
#3341
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11-03-2016 06:28 PM
#3342
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11-03-2016 06:32 PM
#3343
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It's pretty easy actually, and just as plausible as the "Comey the patriot" story. | |
11-03-2016 06:36 PM
#3344
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Yup, you're leeching off their labour. | |
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11-03-2016 06:39 PM
#3345
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11-03-2016 06:41 PM
#3346
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11-03-2016 06:42 PM
#3347
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11-03-2016 06:45 PM
#3348
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11-03-2016 06:50 PM
#3349
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But he could bury her with the evidence (according to you). She'd never win the election and he'd be an even greater hero patriot than he already is. | |
11-03-2016 06:57 PM
#3350
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Here's Comey's letter to the FBI: | |
11-03-2016 07:00 PM
#3351
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That isn't leeching. |
11-03-2016 07:01 PM
#3352
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Comey may very well be making this public with honest intentions and thinking it's the right thing to do. But for Adams to go from that to assuming he did it because he already has damning evidence is not only a leap, it contradicts what Comey himself says to his own dept. | |
11-03-2016 07:09 PM
#3353
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If he was rogue in this he would already have been forced to resign. |
11-03-2016 07:11 PM
#3354
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You're assuming here that everyone who doesn't work is either a) employable, but just prefers to spend their time drinking tea, smoking weed, and talking it up on the interwebs; or b) going to get a job the day they get off welfare. It's just not that simple. | |
11-03-2016 07:15 PM
#3355
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The difference between me and you Wuf is I'm willing to consider a lot of possible reasons why things are the way they are, and even change my views from time to time, whereas you think you already know why things are the way they are. And then you have the nuts to tell me I'm the one who doesn't think. | |
11-03-2016 07:20 PM
#3356
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TIL that individuals owe society their labour for the benefit of everyone. | |
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11-03-2016 07:22 PM
#3357
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11-03-2016 07:34 PM
#3358
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Wuf's a commie! | |
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11-03-2016 08:50 PM
#3359
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I stated as much in the very same post. |
11-03-2016 08:57 PM
#3360
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"Owe" has nothing to do with it. Don't sidestep the issue. |
11-03-2016 10:01 PM
#3361
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The opposite is true. You're arguments are challenged because they are weak. | |
11-04-2016 07:30 AM
#3362
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But you're implying an obligation on my part to be productive, which benefits you. You say it's because it benefits me, but I'll be the one who decides what is of benefit to me. Time and sanity and more important to me than money and productivity. | |
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11-04-2016 08:21 AM
#3363
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Sorry if I don't have time to read every word you post and occasionally miss something. But it doesn't change what I said before. | |
11-04-2016 08:29 AM
#3364
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By whom? FBI director has 10 year tenure. He can't get fired unless he actually does something illegal. He didn't. | |
11-06-2016 01:39 AM
#3365
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Another sad tally to add to my election experience is that I (after many Wuf posts) decided to look into this Scott Adams blog. What a nutjob. His hypnotizing posts are reminiscent of the Pickup Artist movement I remember reading about years ago, the fictitious Jordan Chase villain from Dexter season 5 ("Take it!"), and other ego-centric characters who think manipulation is synonymous with influence and there is no cost too great to establish control over others. Very Ayn Randish (not a compliment). | |
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11-06-2016 05:36 AM
#3366
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11-06-2016 05:49 AM
#3367
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11-06-2016 06:52 AM
#3368
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"Run for your life! He has a sign!" | |
11-06-2016 09:07 AM
#3369
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looks like the clintons are now being linked to peadophile tripsdown to the bahamas as a result of the weiner laptop and emails |
11-06-2016 11:04 AM
#3370
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Mel Gibson in Blood Father wasnt bad. I liked the movie | |
11-07-2016 01:59 AM
#3371
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MY PREDICTION | |
11-07-2016 09:59 AM
#3372
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I heard a interview with him a few months back, and he definitely didn't seem to be pro trump. He seemed to be convinced that Trump is intentionally using hypnosis, and he seemed to be in awe of his ability to do so, but he definitely didn't come across as pro Trump. | |
11-07-2016 02:40 PM
#3373
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Inb4 hillary decidedly, and predictably, wins the election | |
11-07-2016 03:33 PM
#3374
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Here's why I'm not so sure about that: If I was someone who was going to vote for Trump and someone asked me who I was going to vote for, I would not tell them that I'm going to vote Trump. | |
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11-07-2016 04:48 PM
#3375
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I can see him possibly winning too. I think it will be pretty close, but gawd I hope he doesn't win. | |