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    Let's skip over the fact that a two-party system is broken by default; people are not just black or white. There's at least 50 (?) shades of gray in between
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    Why does this always seem to happen in one direction?
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    Probably because you're watching leftist channels.
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    Or, more likely, because it's easier to suppress minorities/poor people who would vote D than to suppress majorities/rich people who would vote R.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Probably because you're watching leftist channels.
    What are some examples that go the other way?
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    I'm sure I saw some right-wing accusations about how Hillary rigged the vote against Bernie, but obviously that's just conspiracy nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I'm sure I saw some right-wing accusations about how Hillary rigged the vote against Bernie, but obviously that's just conspiracy nonsense.
    Oh that happened, however,

    Does D on D violence count?

    You do understand that we are talking here about Republicans fucking with the voting process in order to get elected, right? Countless examples of Republicans vote shenanigans to beat Democrats by mainly surpassing votes and also gerrymandering, but how many of Democrats shenaniganing with votes and the voting process to beat Republicans? Can you put up a few examples, please?

    You also do understand how this threatens democracy, right?

    And yes, Hillary did fuck Bernie up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    You also do understand how this threatens democracy, right?
    Please. A democratic statement was made by USA, and the world cried about it. The UK made a democratic statement, and Europe cried about it. Yet a dodgy machine threatens democracy?

    You're on a different planet to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Please. A democratic statement was made by USA, and the world cried about it. The UK made a democratic statement, and Europe cried about it. Yet a dodgy machine threatens democracy?

    You're on a different planet to me.
    Last time I checked, democracy was about letting people decide, not letting machines decide.
  11. #7586
    Machine voting is 100% bent as fuck. I don't trust any technology company to do basic user shit right, to think a company makes unhackable tick a box machines is hilarious. That being said they are very likely to be good enough for what they have to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Last time I checked, democracy was about letting people decide, not letting machines decide.
    It's about the illusion of letting people decide surely?
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    I can't imagine a single IT guy being in favor of machine voting. It makes no fucking sense. You need a piece of paper with 2 circles and you got a system that's very hard to cheat in a significant way. You use any sort of software and you got a system that's cheatable in a million ways, none of which are intuitive or obvious to the average person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    I can't imagine a single IT guy being in favor of machine voting. It makes no fucking sense. You need a piece of paper with 2 circles and you got a system that's very hard to cheat in a significant way. You use any sort of software and you got a system that's cheatable in a million ways, none of which are intuitive or obvious to the average person.
    I agree but logistics and the whole tick a box with a pencil way of thinking isn't exactly impossible to cheat.
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    You'd need an entire polling station working together to cheat. Double voting is a thing, but it takes a massive effort to make that statistically significant.
    It's not impossible, it's just a lot harder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Last time I checked, democracy was about letting people decide, not letting machines decide.
    Last time I checked, democracy was about majority decision wins.

    If any machine, however it voted, is proven to be faulty, then take it out of service, and analyse the votes it has dealt with. Better still, get rid of the machines altogether.

    But whatever you do, don't ignore the point I just made about how democracy is actually under threat from cry baby losers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Last time I checked, democracy was about majority decision wins.

    If any machine, however it voted, is proven to be faulty, then take it out of service, and analyse the votes it has dealt with. Better still, get rid of the machines altogether.

    But whatever you do, don't ignore the point I just made about how democracy is actually under threat from cry baby losers.
    Yeah you're right. It's not right to ask why machines are only faulty in one particular way in particular areas that serves one particular party. Fairness has nothing to do with it.
  18. #7593
    So investigate. Who made these machines? Are they hackable? Is it a case of small sample size skewing results?

    I'm fine with taking them out of service, but not fine with assuming it's a Republican attempt to fiddle elections, less so if you're immediately pointing to the top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    So investigate. Who made these machines? Are they hackable? Is it a case of small sample size skewing results?

    I'm fine with taking them out of service, but not fine with assuming it's a Republican attempt to fiddle elections, less so if you're immediately pointing to the top.
    Why would anyone suspect it was an R attempt to fiddle? Oh yeah, because it is working in the R direction 99/100 times.

    For a tinfoil hat guy who questions everything when there's no evidence it's funny how you don't find this suspicious at all, when the evidence is smacking you in the face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    For a tinfoil hat guy who questions everything when there's no evidence it's funny how you don't find this suspicious at all, when the evidence is smacking you in the face.
    There's no evidence smacking me in the face. If I were going to going down the path of suspicion, I'd be more inclined to think the Dems are doing it in order to make the Reps look like cheats. I mean, how can you know that isn't the case? Have you analysed all the evidence and thus have the luxury of ruling out such a theory?
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    I'm going to take this as a yes, they are hackable. If that's the case, then how can anyone know the agenda of those doing the hacking? Have they been identified? And if so, by whom?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    There's no evidence smacking me in the face. If I were going to going down the path of suspicion, I'd be more inclined to think the Dems are doing it in order to make the Reps look like cheats. I mean, how can you know that isn't the case? Have you analysed all the evidence and thus have the luxury of ruling out such a theory?
    So prima facie, the election machines are hacked in close elections to give the R candidate an edge, and your first thought is the D's are doing it to make the R's look bad.

    I suppose the D's are also the ones using voter suppression against black voters. In fact, the D's are probably trying to rig all the elections so they'll lose and then not have any power, just as long as they can accuse their opponents of cheating.

    In fact, the whole point of the D party is not to try to govern but to try to frame the R party as cheats.

    The D's probably planted the evidence about 9/11 being a hoax just to discredit the R's too.

    I think the D's probably also did Watergate and then found a way to blame it on Nixon.

    Fuck that Soros is an evil genius.

    Brilliant.
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    All this because I don't trust the media. It's like I'm committing a fucking hate crime.
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    I suppose the D's are also the ones using voter suppression against black voters
    Voter suppression? Is that where they exploit the poor by making victims out of them? Because yes, they totally do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    There's no evidence smacking me in the face. If I were going to going down the path of suspicion, I'd be more inclined to think the Dems are doing it in order to make the Reps look like cheats. I mean, how can you know that isn't the case? Have you analysed all the evidence and thus have the luxury of ruling out such a theory?
    LOL, the dems are doing an awful lot lately to make the Rs look bad. Like the bodybuilder magabomber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    All this because I don't trust the media. It's like I'm committing a fucking hate crime.
    One thing is not trusting the media, another is malinterpreting facts constantly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I'm going to take this as a yes, they are hackable. If that's the case, then how can anyone know the agenda of those doing the hacking? Have they been identified? And if so, by whom?
    Does the end result not *kind of* show the agenda?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    Does the end result not *kind of* show the agenda?
    Of course not. Have you ever heard of the term "false flag"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Of course not. Have you ever heard of the term "false flag"?
    How many examples have there to be for you to stop crying "false flag" on all of them? I mean, one has to be true at the very least. Or are they all just, particularly, Dem lies as the Rs are incapable of any wrong? And not the same wrongs over and over?

    Are the Dems that good at contraespionage or whatever?
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    afaik the game isn't so much direct vote manipulation like hacking into voting machines. It's more a concerted effort to reduce opportunity of access for blacks (sitting at 3% trumple percentage, compared to 40+ for whites) and russians pouring millions into disinformation campaigns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    How many examples have there to be for you to stop crying "false flag" on all of them? I mean, one has to be true at the very least. Or are they all just, particularly, Dem lies as the Rs are incapable of any wrong? And not the same wrongs over and over?

    Are the Dems that good at contraespionage or whatever?
    I'm half asleep right now, I mean more like

    Let's take the magabomber as an example. I seem to remember you said it's all staged. Do you really believe that the dems were in for the long con? As this dude has been spotted ages before with his same decals in place

    Same decals you said looked too pristine to be true

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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    afaik the game isn't so much direct vote manipulation like hacking into voting machines. It's more a concerted effort to reduce opportunity of access for blacks (sitting at 3% trumple percentage, compared to 40+ for whites) and russians pouring millions into disinformation campaigns.
    It's funny how I say "conspiracy" and I'm a nutter, but them Russians...

    And Jack, I don't think I've ever suggested that the Dems are bad and the Reps are not. I'm not an American, I have no horse in this race. I simply prefer Reps at this moment in time. I don't think I'd have said that in Bush Jnr's day.
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    I'd post sources, but they are both readily available and in recent memory. It seems pretty pointless to refer to facts for someone who operates purely on feelings.
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    I like how you refer to a "source" one minute, and then a "fact" then next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I like how you refer to a "source" one minute, and then a "fact" then next.
    How do you get your facts then if not through a source?
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    I don't do facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I don't do facts.
    Which perfectly explains this then

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    Probably because you're watching leftist channels.
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    I don't like the "just google it" but there's literally FBI sources for this. Nobody except right-wing extremist sources and Trump are denying this is happening. If you think that the FBI is part of the jew-lizard deep state trying to sacrifice jesus-trump to the dark angel, then that's not going to do it for you I realize.

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    I hope the republican in Florida wins otherwise I'm going to have to spend the next few months getting told how much the democrat is a communist and ruining america.
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    Which perfectly explains this then
    I was careful to use the word "probably".

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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    If you think that the FBI is part of the jew-lizard deep state trying to sacrifice jesus-trump to the dark angel, then that's not going to do it for you I realize.
    Yeah I mean this isn't outside the realm of possibility, although jew-lizard is a bit much.
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    lol rip america.

    Rick Scott wins, Ted Cruz wins. Doesn't matter if they take back the house, this is a disaster. Even with the $200M military parade that Trump threw for Cruz I didn't see this. I'm kinda rooting Republicans to keep the house now. Let them fire Mueller and Rosenstein and bury the whole investigation. Make it 4 more years of Trump and see what happens. You can't say this isn't entertaining... Let's do some real-world Man In The High Castle shit. Gotta pass the time somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    lol rip america.

    Rick Scott wins, Ted Cruz wins. Doesn't matter if they take back the house, this is a disaster. Even with the $200M military parade that Trump threw for Cruz I didn't see this. I'm kinda rooting Republicans to keep the house now. Let them fire Mueller and Rosenstein and bury the whole investigation. Make it 4 more years of Trump and see what happens. You can't say this isn't entertaining... Let's do some real-world Man In The High Castle shit. Gotta pass the time somehow.
    Ah, I think it's ok. Texas is mega-red and Cruz barely won it. Florida is, has been, and probably always will be, a weird state.

    Big thing is Ds got the House. Now they can stop some of Trump's stupider plans.

    And better yet, SUBPOENA POWER baby!!
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    There's also some hope for Trumptards. Even if he does get impeached, he could still run and get re-elected!

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/07/p...dez/index.html
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    Trump is losing his shit at questions asked at presser hee hee. Waiting to see if he tries to body slam a reporter.

  47. #7622
    From what I was reading about I'm not sure how yesterday was anything but disappointing for the dems
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    From what I was reading about I'm not sure how yesterday was anything but disappointing for the dems
    ...only because they set their expectations too high. It worked out pretty much as I figured it would. R senate, D congress, Rs win red states' gubers. Maybe the only disappointment was Gilliam losing in Florida but meh Florida is fucked. Anyone thinking Cruz would lose in Texas was ignoring the polls. It was close anyways. So unless they thought they would win every tossup and a few things that weren't tossups it went about as expected.
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    Lolz, highlight of the whole election.

  50. #7625
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    ...only because they set their expectations too high. It worked out pretty much as I figured it would. R senate, D congress, Rs win red states' gubers. Maybe the only disappointment was Gilliam losing in Florida but meh Florida is fucked. Anyone thinking Cruz would lose in Texas was ignoring the polls. It was close anyways. So unless they thought they would win every tossup and a few things that weren't tossups it went about as expected.
    Why even use polls if you can just predict it?

    If you set your sights too high and then fail to deliver that's disappointing. I'm under the impression it was a fairly worse swing in comparison to swings usually seen in these elections and considering Trump is meant to be evil incarnate and millions more voters turned out nothing happened.

    It did make me laugh that the BBC headlines in the early hours (i.e. as results were coming in) were talking about how the dems had under-performed and were only likely to take the house and not the senate then this afternoon it was DEMS TAKE THE HOUSE!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    Why even use polls if you can just predict it?
    Huh? You use the polls to predict it, within some margin of uncertainty. That's like saying why even look at a thermometer when you know what temperature it is already by looking at the thermometer.



    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    If you set your sights too high and then fail to deliver that's disappointing. I'm under the impression it was a fairly worse swing in comparison to swings usually seen in these elections and considering Trump is meant to be evil incarnate and millions more voters turned out nothing happened.
    It doesn't matter really. Ds got the House, and the Senate was never realistically within reach. Same for a lot of those guber races. If you were listening to Trumptards you were expecting everything to go even further in his direction, a "red Tsunami." So both sides typically overestimate their chances. It's like sports that way.



    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    It did make me laugh that the BBC headlines in the early hours (i.e. as results were coming in) were talking about how the dems had under-performed and were only likely to take the house and not the senate then this afternoon it was DEMS TAKE THE HOUSE!!!!!
    I saw a similar reaction on CNN. First they were like "zomg D's aren't going to win everything and then some, what a disappointment." And then later it's like "oh wait this isn't so bad." Really I don't understand how the feeling changed so much over a few hours when the outcome was basically the same at both times.
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    Bernie endorsed Andrew Gillum, he won his primaries.

    Afterwards, he did a 180 and started campaigning with none other than Hillary, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz of all people.

    He now lost the actual election.

    I pity the fool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Ah, I think it's ok. Texas is mega-red and Cruz barely won it. Florida is, has been, and probably always will be, a weird state.

    Big thing is Ds got the House. Now they can stop some of Trump's stupider plans.

    And better yet, SUBPOENA POWER baby!!
    Beto bungled it, how do you lose to the Cruz?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    Bernie endorsed Andrew Gillum, he won his primaries.

    Afterwards, he did a 180 and started campaigning with none other than Hillary, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz of all people.

    He now lost the actual election.

    I pity the fool.
    What is it with the Dems and Hillary? I mean she fucking lost to Trump, and that would have been a slam dunk for pretty much anyone else in the universe. That alone should put her on some all time biggest list of major losers right there. But Dems still treat her like some kind of folk hero and want to be seen with her.

    Gilliam should have got Oprah to come out with him, or better yet, Taylor Swift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    Beto bungled it, how do you lose to the Cruz?
    Have you been to Texas? What about gun-toting and cowboy-hat-and-boot-wearing says 'Democrat' to you?

    Edit: I forgot bible-thumping and Fox-News-watching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    Bernie endorsed Andrew Gillum, he won his primaries.

    Afterwards, he did a 180 and started campaigning with none other than Hillary, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz of all people.

    He now lost the actual election.

    I pity the fool.
    So you campaign as a populist to win the primary, and then you bring out the corporate dems to win the election.

    What a two-faced idiot.

    In other news, Hillary is still toxic. And she still says "I want to be president in 2020".

    Go fishing Hillary. Permanently. Like stay at the lake all day. Get some nice rods. A beautiful boat. And concentrate on that.
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    Go fishing Hillary. Permanently. Like stay at the lake all day. Get some nice rods. A beautiful boat. And concentrate on that.
    Ikr. I don't know what bothers me more; that she's still got that smug look on her face after losing to Trump or that anyone pays any attention to her at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Have you been to Texas? What about gun-toting and cowboy-hat-and-boot-wearing says 'Democrat' to you?
    Nah, Beto had Cruz in a vice grip. Then he bungled the debate because "civility". Cruz attacked him and won.

    This is bringing in your closer in the 9th and then blowing a 3 run lead on a bloop single and a hit-by-pitch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Ikr. I don't know what bothers me more; that she's still got that smug look on her face after losing to Trump or that anyone pays any attention to her at all.
    Tonedeafness.

    And corporate dems preferring to lose to republicans every single time rather than cede control of the party to progressives.

    I really don't know what the fuck Gilliam was thinking about. He ran on single payer, and then literally backtracked on what he was saying. He really wanted to pull off the ol' bait-and-switch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    Nah, Beto had Cruz in a vice grip.
    Define 'vice grip'. Afaik Beto was behind in the polls the whole way. Cruz almost blew it but not quite.

    I'm sticking with my 'Texas is Texas' theory. The R won Texas by 20 points in 2014, and 13 points in 2010. It's a pretty red state.
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    After he won the candidacy. Boom, headshot

    And he was leading De Santis.

    LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Define 'vice grip'. Afaik Beto was behind in the polls the whole way. Cruz almost blew it but not quite.

    I'm sticking with my 'Texas is Texas' theory. The R won Texas by 20 points in 2014, and 13 points in 2010. It's a pretty red state.
    Because of civility. Also Cruz pulled off a lot of shenanigans he failed to call him out on.

    Here is an example of an ad he could have run.

    ==================

    "Do you really want to vote for this guy?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    After he won the candidacy. Boom, headshot

    And he was leading De Santis.

    LOL.
    Sometimes you can't help but wonder if certain people actually want to win.
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    In other news, Sessions just resigned. Hmmm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Sometimes you can't help but wonder if certain people actually want to win.
    The people want left. They actually want real left policies. He ran left and won.

    The politicians want center or right. They want nothing to do with left. He ran center-right and lost.

    The democrats literally prefer to lose rather than go anywhere near actual left. This is why Bernie was fucked left, right and center by the party he was running for.

    Right now, USA has Republicans and Diet Republicans. And no one wants diet anything. But the Republicans moved so much right that they are crazy right now. Like, past the right scale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    In other news, Sessions just resigned. Hmmm.
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    This is what happens when corporations run the government I suppose. Hard to exploit poor people in a socialist state; there's not enough of 'em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Hard to exploit poor people in a socialist state; there's not enough of 'em.
    Is this a joke? Or is the idea of "poor" redundant when everyone has fuck all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Is this a joke? Or is the idea of "poor" redundant when everyone has fuck all?
    Compare GDP to % below poverty line in US versus socialist countries. Make a graph if you want.
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    Another way for Trump to win in 2020!

    https://apnews.com/afd73fee87e5442ca...&utm_medium=AP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Compare GDP to % below poverty line in US versus socialist countries. Make a graph if you want.
    You don't need facts when you have first hand experience of living in a socialist country, like Ong does. Ong has rats for breakfast! You might call it a choice, but those are the feelings. And feelings don't care about your facts, Poop!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Lolz, highlight of the whole election.

    Wow you're laughing at a video of a reporter assaulting a young white house intern? Good thing they removed Acostas credentials for this unprecedented act of violence!
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    https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...as_pointed_at/

    He put his hands on a woman inappropriately. If he’s willing to do that in public, Lord only knows what he does to women off-camera and in private.
    Flood it (the video) to CNN. Let them deal with a woman beater
    Wow. Everyone saw what happened, Jim. Millions of people all over the world.
    What you're seeing and what you're hearing is not what's happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Compare GDP to % below poverty line in US versus socialist countries. Make a graph if you want.
    Are we living in this crazy world where Finland and Denmark are shining beacons of socialism? Despite the fact that capitalist businesses thrive?

    Socialist states are places like Cuba, Laos, Vietnam and North Korea. What you see in Scandanavia and the like is still a free market economy.

    So unless you intend to ignore why places like Finland and Denmark have a high GDP (hint - it's capitalism), then you should probably make a GDP graph of Laos et al vs USA.
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