**** Elections thread *****

[OngBonga]

Well by that same measure, a bank repossessing a house is a violent act of capitalism, which means capitalism is inherently violent.

Of course, the bank feels justified in using such violence to recover debts, so it doesn't recognise the act as violent.

When I talk about the violence of Marxism, I'm thinking of violent revolution, the overthrow of government instead of defeating them at the ballots. That isn't a critical aspect of Marx's economic model. It's possible to simply win an election.

[wufwugy]

Well by that same measure, a bank repossessing a house is a violent act of capitalism, which means capitalism is inherently violent.

The world is inherently violent. We're not going to get away from it. The distinction between Marxism and anarcho-capitalism in this regard is that the former requires initiation of violence and the latter does not (it helps defend against initiation of violence too).

When I talk about the violence of Marxism

A small portion of its historical violence came from revolution. Most of it was just from standard governing according to the principles.