Diablo 3

[JKDS]

Hrm, apparently theres a fetish build thats had a lot of success. It uses the fetish passive and like, 2.0 attack speed to constantly spawn the minions that dont autodie in one hit.

[jackvance]

estimated real dollar value of 1m g?

$30

Hrm, apparently theres a fetish build thats had a lot of success. It uses the fetish passive and like, 2.0 attack speed to constantly spawn the minions that dont autodie in one hit.

Would that really work? The passive is only 3% chance per cast. So with 2.0 you need 17 seconds of pure attacking to get one.

[JKDS]

Fetish Sycophants : the WD's secret weapon? - Forums - Diablo III

I see your point, but idk. Combination of wall + kiting forever might eventually spawn 1...which can live for quite awhile it seems. I need to get my shitty AS up to try it out

[a500lbgorilla]

1 mil coins is 30 dollars to people spamming the chat box. I would never buy at that price, though.

[JKDS]

Ya not yet anyway. The good gear is going for about 20 million, so just pay $600 to get one lolol.

[Imthenewfish]

i think its going to be around $4-5/m after the first few days

[jackvance]

Yeah prices for gold are going to bottom out real fast once the RMAH comes around. From what I hear there is already major botting going on to acquire gold. I saw a screenshot of one bot and it was getting 400k per hour, just for smashing pots and vases.

Also JKDS i did most of act 3 yesterday and tried that build - it doesn't work, the summons get oneshot by even the puniest mob. Too bad I would really like a build with minions that works on inferno.

[a500lbgorilla]

The thing I hate most about this game: when I'm attacking something with right click and run out of power, I run at them and die. When I'm trying to run from something and left click, I start attacking and die.

Also, spammers.

Other than that, it's super addicting.

No idea how people get to lvl 60 so quickly.

[jackvance]

That is why you always hold shift when you do a ranged attack, you will never move forward.

And just got my demon hunter to level 60 with a total of 17 hours played on him, power leveled 25-50 with siege runs (like in a vid i linked) and had friends do diablo for me to get to the next difficulty and give me quests so I basically skipped whole acts just got to whatever I needed :P. He has nice damage but my god he dies so much easier than anything else.. I can understand why noone plays demon hunter on hardcore.

[a500lbgorilla]

Yeah, I even bound it to tab since I didn't have the pinky range to work 1-4 and shift but i still don't like it. I guess I'm not used to thinking with this key setup like I am awsd+qer like in TF2.

I think I'm going to try to develop an eye for my arcane power so I know to stop attacking before it runs fully dry.

Wizard is pretty bad ass. I switch up my build all the time and a lot of things seem to still work in Hell... unless I run into a quick mob with invincible minions in a tight space.

[jackvance]

It still helps a lot on the higher difficulties (hell+inferno) to get your pinky action up. You will often want to shoot at targets which are out of your vision and there is no way to do this without shift. For example the butcher on inferno, I always try to run out of vision and then shoot at him (you can see on the mini map where he is), this way his attacks cannot reach me while I keep firing at him. He is on an enrage timer of about 3 minutes, if you don't kill him in enough time he will set the whole room on fire. And inferno generally is all about kiting, run and shoot.

For me personally, I kept running towards mobs too often even when I had mana because I kept misclicking so I was forced to use it.

[a500lbgorilla]

Damn.

I often wish elites and champions would show up on the mini-map since I usually find myself hydra-kiting them unless I'm playing around with blizzard/wave of force.

[WildBobAA]

I have the "attack while standing still button" bounded to spacebar. Works perfectly.

My firsts character was a WD and I leveled it to 60...what a massive waste of time. Only really good spell it has is the zombie bears but you need to be right next to the enemies to use it and in inferno, that means you die. DH is so much easier.

[a500lbgorilla]

I have the "attack while standing still button" bounded to spacebar. Works perfectly.

A+ tip.

[JKDS]

Hey JV, tips on getting through act 2? These fucking snake lady's man...

23.7k dmg, 2.7 atkspd, 25k health, 300 resist, 2200 armor, 1500 intel. Snakes dont give a fuck and one shot me...unless i have spirit vessel...then they ghost and repeat. CC useless!!! HOW KILL ashsldfkjas;dkfjas;kg;kh;kj

[a500lbgorilla]

If there's a perfect elite, it definitely has invulnerable minions.

[jackvance]

I played through most the content in coop so not too sure about witch doctor solo. I cleared act 2 and 3 with monk+WD(me)+2 DH. Act 4 still impossible atm. Still, some elite packs that spawn crazy abilities you just have to skip, there is no way around this. This is easier in coop because one person can lure them away while you teleport to the furthest out body to bypass them. As solo you need to do something similar, lure em and park them somewhere, then revive and run the other way. If they are too crazy strong and you cannot skip, don't be afraid to remake the game. As for killing them, you need hex and wall of zombies to block them off, and enough room to kite backwards while you dwiddle them down. Also get Fetishes to block them off and Big Bad Voodoo to increase your damage output. It will still be impossible if you don't have enough dps to take them down fast enough.

Your stats are from my experience the minimum to clear act 1 but not enough for act 2. The most important thing you have to do now to deal with act 2 (which is the common roadblock for everyone) is gear up more. For reference I have 32k hp and 35k dps. Not a single piece of gear I bought for more than 80k gold, only my weapon would be worth more but I found it myself. Off the top of my hat looking at your stats, you have very high attack speed, that is very good if you have enough mana regen to not run yourself out of mana. Now you will want to get all the +dmg and +int you can. First thing buy a mojo with the highest +damage you can find, this will be a good upgrade. If the dps on your weapon is low you need a new one too, I have 900 dps 1-hander with +120 int. You need atleast 800 raw damage on it.


And yesterday I played on my Demon Hunter and did act 1 solo. I had spent all the gold I had, 1 million, on gear and my stats are 25k hp and 55k dps with sharpshooter. It was seriously retarted to play like this coming from a Witch Doctor. I melted everything I came across before it even got to me, including all elites. Just spam Nether Tentacles, everything dies. There was a mini-boss I found dead offscreen without even seeing him alive! Apart from the butcher who oneshot me a few times it felt like playing normal difficulty not inferno. Will try act 2 solo later, that should be a lot harder.

[WildBobAA]

Tip for getting through A2 inferno: Wait for the difficulty nerf in the next patch.

Patch 1.0.3 Design Preview - Diablo III

[bode]

does anyone else have a problem with horrible lag lately? the first 2 weeks the game was out i never had a problem. The last 4-5 days i've tried to log in to play between 8-12pm and the lag is so bad i can't even kill one mob without getting mowed down before i get a shot off. And its not just an issue with too much going on in the game. I look like i'm running in slow motion through town.

[JKDS]

Oh well fuck me. Most my dmg comes from attack speed

At least ill be able to get out of act 1 now though i guess...not sure if i like the difficulty nerf or not. I mean, act 1 is such a joke and i hope the others dont get like that.

[jackvance]

So they are going to tone down inferno act 2-4 difficulty to make it more like act 1 *and* stop the damage scaling in groups? Inferno is gonna become a breeze.

And I just started progressing in act 4 too. Killed ikatsu (first mini-boss) solo with my DH and Rakanoth (first boss) with my WD. It's going to become a lot easier once the patch hits, maybe hardcore will become possible now atleast that is a good thing.

[jackvance]

Currently at diablo inferno. Or rather Shiablo. Pretty hard, but despite still being in crappy gear the rest of act 4 was really easy for my DH, I went through it solo in a few hours. My current assesment of inferno is that for a DH, if you buy a decent bow with 1k+ dps (~700k gold) and some cheap other gear (~300k) that you can do all acts, and the only big problems will be Belial (endboss act 2) and Rakanoth (boss in act 4).

[JKDS]

Thats what my friend is saying too. Hes rockin some high dps bow and is bragging about how all his gear is super cheap. I HATE HIM

[jackvance]

Apart from weapon you can get quite decent gear for a pretty cheap price. The main problem is that if you want to upgrade it you are suddenly looking at millions of gold for a single item..

I don't know how much I will be able to play D3 in the near future, gonna be moving soon, and I in a few hours I leave for a bachelor party weekend so I'll be afk from WW for that time.

[!Luck]

I can finally play act 1 on farm, but still die to certain elite packs.

800+ resists (with shout), 14k dps, 26k life (LOL), 5k armor. Prob will be able to do act 2 once nerfs hit... though need a little bit more life.

[jackvance]

Yeah the whole patch is basically going to be a buff to melee classes. A blizzard dev talks about it here:

The Unanswered Question - Forums - Diablo III

[bode]

so it turns out that it was patch 1.02a that is fucking up the game for me and tons of other people that was released on 5/31. 1.02b didnt do shit to correct it, so hopefully 1.03 will.

[a500lbgorilla]

lol Act 2 inferno. I lowered my head and rushed through to Magda but I can see why everyone hates this act. So many mobs have the ability to kill you from off screen.

I thought I saw them lower the cost of gem upgrades to 2 but that doesn't seem to be the case?

[JKDS]

Thats not till the next patch rilla.

and fuck everything in act 2. just, fuck it. FUCK IT ALL. Im geared to the point that i can run pretty much any build in act 1 now...but none of that matters. So stupid! Rarghhhhhhhhhh

[jackvance]

lol Act 2 inferno. I lowered my head and rushed through to Magda but I can see why everyone hates this act. So many mobs have the ability to kill you from off screen.

I thought I saw them lower the cost of gem upgrades to 2 but that doesn't seem to be the case?

This will only be for lower level gems, the highest gem you can get in a drop is flawless square (9) and these fixes are only for gems 1-8, you'll only need 2 gems and the gold price will drop significantly for those lower level ones. (I heard 100 gold instead of 20k, but not sure about those numbers)

This patch will come at the end of the month.

Thats not till the next patch rilla.

and fuck everything in act 2. just, fuck it. FUCK IT ALL. Im geared to the point that i can run pretty much any build in act 1 now...but none of that matters. So stupid! Rarghhhhhhhhhh

You should be able to gear up from the AH rather cheap, to the point where the only big problem in act 2 is Belial. Use smoke screen with move speed passive (tactical advantage), just max range everything constantly and spam nether tentacles and hungering arrow (devouring arrow rune) at them. Put down caltrops with the disable rune and run backwards. Especialy hard mobs you will want to max range, kill them from more than a screen away while caltrops and your Templar to slow them down a bit.

This is good practice anyway because in act 4 you need to kill everything by not even being on the same screen as them, or you insta-die, they all hit 4x as hard as the mobs in act 2. Also use Rain of Vengeance with knockback rune. This is pretty amazing to keep faster mobs at bay. On bosses switch this to stun.

(don't forget to switch Elective Mode on so you can use multiple skills from the same tree)

I just read that they already hot-fixed the mob damage scaling in inferno (used to be +15% dmg per extra player so at 4 man team you were lookingat mobs smacking you around with +45% dmg) but now they will hit the same no matter how many people you have. So if you can't do it alone just run with a decently geared tank and it should become easy.

[a500lbgorilla]

Yeah, I'm about ready to call it with this one. Apparently they nerfed act 2 and beyond, but I'm doing worse than I was before. I can't find any place to farm or earn gold while enjoying the gameplay and I can't progress forward in the game without the grind.

On the plus side, I made 35 bucks selling an elite pair of boots. Hopefully my 880 dam wand with big vit can make me the other 35ish bucks and I can call it even with Blizzard.

I was really hoping for this to be a game I could play for a while but it's just nowhere enjoyable. Maybe I'll just wait for Boarderlands 2 which is an FPS with shiny random dice role items.

[JKDS]

Boarderlands1 was awesome, and i liked their random dice role items a lot better. Ive been waiting for my other friends to catch me in inferno...then maybe i can have fun with them...but it seems like im just gonna wind up going back to leagueoflegends.

[Renton]

A few thoughts/questions:

1) i can't get my latency below 300ms. I'm in thailand but from what I understand this is pretty standard everywhere. This makes gameplay almost unbearable as thats nearly half a second of delay for all my input actions, my reaction time, etc.

2) Does Blizzard think that one yard = one foot? I seriously don't fuckin get this. 10 yard radius should be like 1/3 of the screen and its like barely melee range.

3) In diablo 2, by mid-end game your had enough FRW gear that you didn't run slow as shit. This does not appear to be the case with D3 which seems very stingy with faster run stats. Does this get better?

[a500lbgorilla]

A few thoughts/questions:

1) i can't get my latency below 300ms. I'm in thailand but from what I understand this is pretty standard everywhere. This makes gameplay almost unbearable as thats nearly half a second of delay for all my input actions, my reaction time, etc.

2) Does Blizzard think that one yard = one foot? I seriously don't fuckin get this. 10 yard radius should be like 1/3 of the screen and its like barely melee range.

3) In diablo 2, by mid-end game your had enough FRW gear that you didn't run slow as shit. This does not appear to be the case with D3 which seems very stingy with faster run stats. Does this get better?

Yeah, I don't know if it's lag but one of the more annoying bits is how some mobs will queue up their attack animations, I'll put some space between us, they'll finish their attack, and I'll be hit. Especially if I'm running from something fast, it'll get close enough to attack, but by the time its jaws are chomping, it's biting air and still damaging me.

The whole game has a feeling of being turned based instead of responsive, which I didn't like and that was worsened by my drop in attack speed. If those deranged fallen can close the distance and explode before I can even put through a valid command teleport away, I become sad.

And other than 12 move boots, all I ever saw was Tyrael's unique chest armor with 7 more move speed which auctions at 5 times all the gold I've ever seen.

I may pick up the game sometime down the road when they figure out what it is they want me to be doing with all the balance stuff and hopefully so many ilvl 63 items will have been found that the game is saturated with them and I can gear up like a champ.

[dneureiter]

Zomg number 2. That or everyone is just 5 yards tall.

[WildBobAA]

3) In diablo 2, by mid-end game your had enough FRW gear that you didn't run slow as shit. This does not appear to be the case with D3 which seems very stingy with faster run stats. Does this get better?

The only non-legendary items that give move speed are boots. However, there are multiple legendaries that have move speed on them.

[WildBobAA]

Yeah, I'm about ready to call it with this one. Apparently they nerfed act 2 and beyond, but I'm doing worse than I was before. I can't find any place to farm or earn gold while enjoying the gameplay and I can't progress forward in the game without the grind.

Yeah, they made it harder for DH's/Wizards for sure. Before the patch I was a 100% glass cannon and got one shot by everything while doing 71k (non-sharpshooter) to 143k (sharpshooter) dps. After the patch, I had to completely adjust my playstyle and invest in some all-res gear. I'm only doing 40k dps now but the game is pretty easy since I can tank a couple hits and spam gloom (I have the natayla set) and recover that hp almost instantly.

[lolzzz_321]

Ya I had like 100k gold and my glass cannon DH was getting smashed in Act I (inferno ldo) . I found some cheap resist all stuff and a couple things with armor and it made a big difference. Rilla, you might try picking this up because I was in the same boat a you (about to put game down). I sacrificed some DPS but I can actually survive.

I only have a little over 150 resist all + 52% damage reduction from armor (you can get enchantress companion and she has an armor buff). Weeee not getting 1 hit by trash mobs and even elites. Like Bob, I use shadow power + gloom but I'm not rich enough to afford natalya set so my disc isn't unlimited. Even in Act 1, I just run away from elites like fucking fast frog with vortex, fast, refelect damage, invulnerable etc. I think if I can raise my DPS from 35k to 40k or 45k I can just blast them.

I think this is a pretty good Act I farm video - Diablo 3 - Inferno Magic Find run - 15-20 Possible Elites in 15-20 minutes - YouTube

Act One 9-2

- North Highlands: Watch Tower L1 and L2 (It's NW of the Waypoint, restart game if it doesn't spawn). Small area and I've seen up to 4 elites. Sometimes there is an elite when you first get to North Highlands too.

Cemetery Of The Forsaken - There is at least 1 in each defiled crypt and I've run into as many as 3 in one crypt.

Festering Woods - 2 guaranteed mobs in Warriors Rest and Crypt of the Ancients. I think 1 guaranteed in Festering woods and I've run into as many as 3.

Cathedral Level 3 - Might be a quick one just north of WP, if not go to Lerorics Manor.

Leorics Manor - According to Reddit - "Go outside, 1 pack always spawns, also cross the bridge for 1-3 Elites"

Probably not as efficient but I also add Halls of Agony Lvl 2 so I can exit and get to Cursed Hold. There is at least one elite pack in there + the Warden who is super easy and drops tons of shit when you have 5 stacks. I don't go to Butcher becuz w/ 1.03 he takes forever to killlllll.