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    Quote Originally Posted by supa View Post
    Another one that's hitting me at a time I need to be thinking about it. Thanks.
    no worries, yeah that clarified a lot of things for me which had been bugging me for a while. that dude seems to have an awesome knack for explaining concepts.
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    yeah i hate strategy, too. knowing/employing a good poker strategy never helped anybody win more at poker.
    Should I be surprised you didn't get what I meant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyPoker View Post
    Should I be surprised you didn't get what I meant?
    Prolly not since I didn't get it either.
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    more gold. this one's local

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    i'm back playing 50nl for now. two tables (not fast ones). not table selecting at all. taking heaaaaps of notes. using as much time as i need for each decision. trying be aware of/assess my own range+strategy while playing. been studying heaps. and i've stopped getting tired of playing poker after just 10 minutes. hopefully this is sustainable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpm View Post
    i'm back playing 50nl for now. two tables (not fast ones). not table selecting at all. taking heaaaaps of notes. using as much time as i need for each decision. trying be aware of/assess my own range+strategy while playing. been studying heaps. and i've stopped getting tired of playing poker after just 10 minutes. hopefully this is sustainable.
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    outa here bro, bans are funny things
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpm View Post
    - sharpen intuitive sense of SPR and knowledge of how to manipulate it in my favour + plan my line/sizing around it
    - improve preflop skills as regard the 3/4/5game vs regs who are so inclined (almost all of them)
    - learn to form more accurate 4b/call ranges vs above regs (never really had to do much of this)
    - sharpen thin value-betting skills via better understanding of the interplay between range elasticity/sizing.
    - improve mental pot equity calculations (both hand vs range and range vs range)
    - thin preflop value vs fish + learning to utilise thin, undersized value 3bs vs weaker players who will continue >90% of the time (aka "min-thin 3-bets", ty carroters)
    - all-in semi-bluff required FE calculations. spoon taught me a formula in our coaching sessions last year to do this. i've not really used it at all since. probably useful.
    - become more anticipative (is that a word?) in my play, be able to predict roughly what % of the time villain will call/fold/raise when i bet, and bet/check when i check. not just on the current street of the hand either. i want to get a feel for how villains will likely play their ranges over multiple streets on different runouts
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    these sound like some solid goals man.
    how are you going about improving these aspects of your game?

    also, anticipative...
    its a word


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    pretty soon after i made that post i basically stopped playing and studying poker altogether for a month or two due to having lots of stuff going on. lately i've been looking at the more "abstract" kind of theory stuff about exploitation, game theory-optimal strategies and balance and things - trying to start being more aware of BOTH my own and my opponents' ranges in a given hand, so that i'm not as susceptible to being beaten to a pulp by the more perceptive regs.

    as far as your second question goes, generally work away from the tables for me involves either studying concepts or whatever in strategy threads/books/etc, or doing excessively in-depth HH analyses where i go over villain's ranges and what they do vs different actions i can take, my own ranges, my plan in the hand, strengths and weaknesses of both strategies and etc etc etc

    i used to watch a lot of training videos but for whatever reason they didn't seem to sink in for me.
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    dude my bad...didnt even see the date.
    yeah I was just curious as to if you were book learning, doing hh's reviews, watching videos or what.


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    so. for the time being, i am playing online texas holdem again.
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    Nice to have you back bro, if only for a little while. GL wid the game.
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    cheers. the plan is to stick around. however to be honest it all depends on the strength of my mental game. which in turn depends on how much work i put into my mental game.
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    I'm a bit confused.. you were killing SSNL in 2011! what's been keeping you away from online poker?
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    i suppose a change in life situation (no longer a student with almost endless free time on my hands) and an overall increase in tilt which prevents me from being able to properly re-commit to poker since i took a break. tilt was also basically why i decided to stop playing a few months back.
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    Just read through the blog. Good luck! I'll be hanging out and watching your progress, hoping you get back to runnin' good.
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    thankyou sir. my biggest problem at the moment is getting my poker head screwed back on properly after a break. the logic is all still there but emotions and temperament are far from optimal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpm View Post
    so. for the time being, i am playing online texas holdem again.
    woot!
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    i suppose a change in life situation (no longer a student with almost endless free time on my hands)
    what ya doing now?

    as for tilt. it's fascinating. Good luck taming that dragon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daven View Post
    woot!

    what ya doing now?
    recently quit a terrible factory job and am currently unemployed watching my savings disappear. drinking too much, exercising too little, and not playing enough music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpm View Post
    recently quit a terrible factory job
    quitting a terrible job sounds good to me

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    and am currently unemployed
    can be good, can be bad - make it good!

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    watching my savings disappear.
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    Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pound ought and six, result misery.
    spend less/earn more somehow? savings are for disappearing, but make sure you do cool stuff with them as they go. The flush-broke-flush-broke pendulum is a ride people should spend more time on...
    what you need to earn for your savings to level out? 25nl cover that?

    Quote Originally Posted by rpm View Post
    drinking too much,
    drinking ain't bad, hell, some would argue it's never enough
    just don't destroy too many days...

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    exercising too little
    fix this.

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    not playing enough music.
    fix this.

    best of luck with everything. skype davenpoker. etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daven View Post
    what you need to earn for your savings to level out? 25nl cover that?
    no idea what my hourly EV would be any more. not even sure if i would be a long-term winner, to be honest. i feel like i can see my where my edges are quite clearly when i'm sitting and playing. but then inevitably i make a mistake, large or minor, or even just make a non-standard play that i'm unsure about and which doesn't work out, then tilt like crazy, quit the session immediately, and don't play for a week. so it's hard to really tell.

    Quote Originally Posted by daven View Post
    all the rest
    all good advice, cheers. do you use skype much? i'm pretty sure i have davenpoker in my account but i've never seen you online. that said, i'm not on there a heap myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpm View Post
    no idea what my hourly EV would be any more. not even sure if i would be a long-term winner, to be honest. i feel like i can see my where my edges are quite clearly when i'm sitting and playing. but then inevitably i make a mistake, large or minor, or even just make a non-standard play that i'm unsure about and which doesn't work out, then tilt like crazy, quit the session immediately, and don't play for a week. so it's hard to really tell.
    Sounds familiar....
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    Nothing else in my life has forced me to be as honest with myself as poker. Seems like you know your issues. Why not play some 10nl. Some money is better than none?
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    Find that love of the game, again, the one that drove you to success not so long ago. I am big believer in the connection between how much we enjoy poker and how successful we are at the tables. It sounds like your not happy with poker atm, and that's a hard way to grind.

    Good luck!
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    rpm you know your current downfalls and you know where you what to be, the only thing stopping that from becoming a reality is putting in the work. There is a finite number of hours of work that will make it a reality. How many hours? pretty much impossible to estimate, but the only way you will find out is work as hard as you can and don't slow down for anything. GL sir
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    thanks all for the wise words and support.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robb View Post
    Find that love of the game, again, the one that drove you to success not so long ago. I am big believer in the connection between how much we enjoy poker and how successful we are at the tables. Good luck!
    good idea. played a short, fun session at 25nl today. it's because of hands like these that i doubt i'll ever be able to completely stop playing poker, even if i wanted to.

    notes on this guy (all from this session) read:

    25nl 6m 05-11
    - completes/calls raise w/suited high cards+connectors in SB
    - likes to lead out/have the initiative with 9+ out draws
    - coldcall/4b in SB vs BU open+BB 3bet
    - OL/C 87s in SB
    - donk flop+turn w/ gutter + BDFD HU

    rationale for this was i don't expect him to be good enough to value bet Jx over 3 streets, so he basically only has 22,33,QJs, J9s, and Qxhh in his value range (and he may decide to C/C some of these hands some non-zero %) and then he will also have a decent chunk of missed hands like Axhh, Kxhh, suited-connected hearts, A4s, A5s, 54s.

    edit: long story short, villain is practically always has a polarised range on this river. my hand strength doesn't really matter much at all. all that matters is villain's bluffing frequency, or his value:bluff ratio or whatever you wanna call it. i only need him to be bluffing 30% or more of the time to make this a call even with hands as weak as AK/AT

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
    UTG ($25.58)
    MP ($52.01)
    CO ($27.83)
    Button ($24.30)
    SB ($30.89)
    Hero (BB) ($26.62)
    Preflop: Hero is BB with 2, 4
    4 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks
    Flop: ($0.50) 2, J, 3 (2 players)
    SB bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35
    Turn: ($1.20) Q (2 players)
    SB bets $0.85, Hero calls $0.85
    River: ($2.90) 9 (2 players)
    SB bets $2.77, Hero calls $2.77
    Total pot: $8.44 | Rake: $0.38
    Results:
    SB had K, 8 (high card, King).
    Hero had 2, 4 (one pair, twos).
    Outcome: Hero won $8.06
    Last edited by rpm; 05-08-2012 at 03:23 AM.
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    nh, sir - that's why you need to get back to grinding, that's one helluva read, and lots of guys (like me) can learn a lot from you
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    thanks robb. villain sat out and quit immediately after this hand (on his BU). i hate to admit that i derived pleasure purely from someone else's displeasure, but goddamn it felt good to know i had rattled his cage a little a bit. it was only $4 he lost, after all.

    on a more serious note, i think there's a lesson to be learnt in there about ego and tilt and how they are related. i have a tendency (coming from back when i used to be able to handread a little bit) to make some pretty marginal and questionable plays when i feel i have a read or my bullshit detector is going off. on this occasion, this one worked, and so i felt good. i don't often get to call down 3-barrels with worst pair/worst kicker. so when i made this call and saw his hand, my ego went "woohoo", or something like that. HOWEVER, quite recently in this thread, i said:

    Quote Originally Posted by rpm View Post
    i feel like i can see my where my edges are quite clearly when i'm sitting and playing. but then inevitably i make a mistake, large or minor, or even just make a non-standard play that i'm unsure about and which doesn't work out, then tilt like crazy, quit the session immediately, and don't play for a week. so it's hard to really tell.
    and so the times i call there and he shows up with one of the 20ish combos of value hands he has in his range (which still comprise <70% of his range, making my call +EV regardless of which actual hand he has) i will often become incredibly results-oriented, second-guessing the shit out of myself, probably convince myself it was FPS, and then yeah i think we all know what happens then.

    i had a point when i started writing this. hmmmm. i guess my point is there are two sides to the coin and we should try to detach our emotions from BOTH sides as best we can. i've always believed that positive and negative emotions from poker are actually part of the same process (ego). so celebrating less when you win/play well directly correlates with tilting less when you lose/play bad. i could well be wrong though. after all, i'm probably the most tilted guy around here since luckyslevin.
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    i've noticed people are posting pictures of shit they bought with their dirty, filthy gambling money. seeing as motivation is a pretty big problem for me, and i fucking love this guitar, i thought i'd do the same.



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    Quote Originally Posted by rpm View Post
    i'm probably the most tilted guy around here since luckyslevin.
    I srsly lol'd - twice. Actually, I'm still laughing.

    I get caught in two minds about not getting too high with the wins. Spoon always said that - zen like peacefulness when running good, zen like peacefulness when running bad. Tommy Angelo suggests much the same thing.

    But for me, the joy of playing is battling through the valleys to the next peak. Of course, we all know how much I tilt, so maybe my perspective isn't the one you should listen to!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpm View Post
    i've noticed people are posting pictures of shit they bought with their dirty, filthy gambling money.
    get back to the tote and spotting fast horses imo\

    as for who is the biggest tilt on ftr, pm me if you want an opinion
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    played >1k hands in a month for the first time this year last month. ran like god at 10nl and got my ass kicked at 25nl. games were really soft though even playing at anti-peak hour so hopefully i can focus on this shit and start siphoning some $ out of the micro steaks economy.
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    going to post up some hands for me to work through because it seems online forums are the only bearable HH format at my disposal in the absence of microsoft word. many of these spots will probably seem utterly trivial and over-analysed but i have certain things i want to work on. i don't expect people to comment on the hands or play, but feel free if you want and can be bothered. really this is just the only place i can go over hands the way i like to. here's one a i fucked up.

    BU is 15/8/20 over 14. has 3bet once from the CO, so i'm not particularly worried about being beaten down by 3bets or anything.

    this is second hand i've ever played with SB so no reads except his stack size and that he folded his BB. preflop sizing in this one suggests fish.

    BB is 43/14/50 over 14. stats and stack size suggest fish

    PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BB: $11.10
    UTG: $72.79
    Hero (CO): $25.00
    BTN: $32.36
    SB: $24.75

    SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 6 A

    fold, Hero raises to $0.62, fold, SB raises to $1.25, BB calls $1.00, Hero calls $0.63

    raising pre seems standard because we will be on the effective BU most times we go to a flop, and taking it down pre is fine as well. not sure what to think of SB's 3bet sizing, but from experience it could be as wide as like all pairs and like AJ+,KJ+,QJ. i cant really see myself folding much at all in position with 5:1 odds and a fish in the pot. i expect BB's range to be much the same (all pairs, most broadways) given he is a fish and the raise is small.

    Flop: ($3.75, 3 players) J 9 A
    SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

    don't know anything about SB's CB tendencies, or BB's donking freqencies so don't think their checks give me much information. i suppose either player would bet anything two pair+ for protection (with two pair or sets) or for value (with whatever flushes they can have)

    wasn't sure if i should check or bet here. the worst hands i imagine being called by are naked (better) flush draws, which have 35% vs me anyway. and any ace which calls will be in good shape vs me. this seems a reasonable calling range for either player.

    Board: Ad 9d Jd
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 43.287% 42.20% 01.08% 19220 493.00 { As6d }
    Hand 1: 56.713% 55.63% 01.08% 25334 493.00 { QcQd, QdQh, QdQs, JJ, TcTd, TdTh, TdTs, 99, ATs+, KdQd, QJs, AJo+, KcQd, KdQc, KdQh, KdQs, KhQd, KsQd }

    so i guess i don't hate a check but betting for value/equity protection could be better. don't know. i guess if sets are removed from that range i'd have more equity and might make it more of a bet

    Turn: ($3.75, 3 players) 3
    SB bets $2.00, fold, Hero calls $2.00

    i think this is usually going to be Ax, QQ/KK if he has them and maybe some slow-played nut flushy type hands. may still have some sets too. i called because i felt i had the best hand at least some, albeit probably small, % of the time and some suckout equity. probably my first mistake.

    River: ($7.75, 2 players) 3
    SB bets $4.00, Hero calls $4.00

    pretty sure i have close to 0% equity here and i need ~25%. i might chop SOME of the time but pretty rarely. and calling for a chop as best case scenario is pretty bad anyway. i can't imagine this river sizing ever being a bluff on this board. and especially not after a C/B/B line. pretty sure i'm losing $4 in EV every time i call the river. probably actually be more profitable to jam than call but that didn't cross my mind at the time.
    Last edited by rpm; 09-07-2012 at 02:02 AM.
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    Solid analysis of the hand rpm. I think your best line versus these villains is to b/f flop since you can get value from TT-KKd. If villain c/c's flop and leads turn/river you can be pretty sure you are beat (i.e. there are a lot more Ax than missed draws)

    Lately I've also been defending pretty wide in position to 3bets in multiway pots. However A6o has a lot of reverse implied odds and basically no drawmaking potential -- even with a fish in the pot I'm not sure defending is +EV
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    cheers. you're probably right about preflop. it's marginal at best and may cause me to spew a lot at later points in the hand if my game isn't good. which it currently isn't.
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    more hands. i'm not necessarily hero. just looking over people's plays/strategies, putting myself in their shoes to see if i think they are doing things right/wrong (and what) and trying to learn about poker in the process. my focus for the time being (until i play bad enough to tilt and re-become disillusioned with poker) is CB strategies

    hero is 34/26/7 over this ~120 sample. has been stealing lots (41/73/80 in CO/BU/SB). folded to 9/12 3bets and has CB 5/10

    BB is 26/22/9. has 3bet 2 or 3 times from the blinds, folded to 1/2 CB's. same sample. hasn't donked a flop, has C/R'd 1/2

    PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
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    BTN: $53.92
    SB: $60.32
    BB: $55.81
    UTG: $96.33
    Hero (CO): $76.91

    SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has J Q

    fold, Hero raises to $1.25, fold, fold, BB calls $0.75

    range:
    22-JJ(57),A9s-AQs(14),ATo-AQo(30),KTs+(10),KJo+(18),Q9s+(9),J9s+(8),T9s(4),9 8s(4),87s(4),76s(4)
    162 combos if i can count or add correctly

    probably smaller in reality but whatever.

    Flop: ($2.75, 2 players) 5 2 3
    BB checks, Hero?

    checking range:
    probably all of it.

    continues vs a bet (whether call or raise):
    22-33(6),44(6),55(3),66-JJ(33),A9s-AQs(14),ATo-AQo(30),76s(4)KTcc+(3),KTss+(3),KTdd+(3),Q9cc+(3), Q9ss+(3),Q9dd+(3)

    so all sets, overpairs, Ax (gutter + reasonable equity versus hero's range with high-card alone), 76s (probably C/R's if it continues) and some Kx and Qx suited w/BDFD's to represent some C/R bluffs which i expect from reggy looking villains vs CB's on this flop

    combos: 114, or roughly 114/162 = 0.70 of his preflop range continues vs a bet, folding 30% of the time.

    bet sizes:
    1/2P = 33% required FF in a vacuum
    3/4P = 42% required FF in a vacuum
    2/3P = 39% required FF in a vacuum

    so hero needs to bet slightly under 1/2P in order for the CB to be +EV in a vacuum. probably can do up to half pot given that he will have something around 8-10% turn suckout equity the times villain just C/C's. however doing this means hero will CB close to 100% of his range and is hugely exploitable to a C/R's on this board, even though villain can credibly rep verrrrry little in doing so.
    Last edited by rpm; 11-01-2012 at 05:53 AM.
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    If villain c/r, what would you continue with (even though he reps little)? Just seems that cbetting this flop much more than 50% seems far too exploitable given you whiff the flop more often than not when in late position.
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    i'd probably actually peel a x/r pretty liberally here in reality because it's so hard for villain to have a hand (as you said) and people rarely C/R like 99/TT/whatever the top of their pocket pair range is for thin value. this board actually hits my range better than his in the sense that i still most of the nut combinations in my range (probably all of them except 64o) when nut is defined as 2pr+. though when i CB it i obviously have whiffed a massive amount of the time, and that "nut" part of my range is a very very small part until i continue vs a x/r
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    fwiw i actually was hero in this one and i did check it back because i felt like any pair or Ax would continue because my CB range is so airy on this board.
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    JQ hand is interesting. Shame there isn't a heart among that flopped junk. Discount 22-66 a bunch vs this villain, but still check it back and prepare to raise the turn

    you have more nut hands in your range than he does, i'm not sure how relevant that is though, cos your range is still mostly a couple of overcards + sometimes a gutter
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    Quote Originally Posted by daven View Post
    JQ hand is interesting. Shame there isn't a heart among that flopped junk. Discount 22-66 a bunch vs this villain, but still check it back and prepare to raise the turn
    i'm curious as to the rationale for raising turn leads? seems like that's just too often going to perceived as the reg deciding too late in the hand that its time to start bluffing when he credibly reps nothing. obviously depends a lot on hero's strategy (or more specifically, villain's perception of it), i don't have any remotely strong hands i check back this flop with.

    Quote Originally Posted by daven View Post
    you have more nut hands in your range than he does, i'm not sure how relevant that is though, cos your range is still mostly a couple of overcards + sometimes a gutter
    certainly true when i make the initial CB, though the point i was trying to make by comparing the size of our "nut ranges" was that i feel i can peel vs C/R's pretty wide here because they will often just be Ax trying to attack a perceived weak range, and my range (once it's narrowed down by my continuing vs a C/R, when i will almost always just call) is far stronger than villains because he seldom has more than 9 combinations of nuts, and i have 3-4x times that many, all of which i will just call vs a C/R so villain can hang himself on later streets if he wants.

    ... maybe i'm thinking too deeply about this

    thanks for reading+commenting to both you and beano
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpm View Post
    i'm curious as to the rationale for raising turn leads? seems like that's just too often going to perceived as the reg deciding too late in the hand that its time to start bluffing when he credibly reps nothing. obviously depends a lot on hero's strategy (or more specifically, villain's perception of it), i don't have any remotely strong hands i check back this flop with.
    key is, does villain believe this is the case? it isn't the case for a lot of players. Think is, if you check back KJo type of hands then there are a lot of hands you hit a pair with, vs his turned still nada, right?

    people like to scoop unwanted pots. This pot looks unloved when you check back. People rarely raise turns, so when you do it's a hard spot for villain to play against most of the time when he donks. And villains will donk a lot here. You CAN check back nut hands on this flop, and probably should some of the time. As it stands, once you hit the turn your range turns top pair+ a lot.

    Quote Originally Posted by rpm View Post
    the point i was trying to make by comparing the size of our "nut ranges" was that i feel i can peel vs C/R's pretty wide here because they will often just be Ax trying to attack a perceived weak range, and my range (once it's narrowed down by my continuing vs a C/R, when i will almost always just call) is far stronger than villains because he seldom has more than 9 combinations of nuts, and i have 3-4x times that many, all of which i will just call vs a C/R so villain can hang himself on later streets if he wants.

    ... maybe i'm thinking too deeply about this
    if you peel vs check-raises then how are you planning to take it down given that you are only rarely winning at showdown unimproved?
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    i wouldn't actually call a C/R with the hand i had in this spot (and part of my reasoning for not CBing a seemingly standard CB spot here was because i expected most of his Ax to continue, and to C/R bluff me with some frequency), when i said i could continue vs a C/R range "liberally" (or something, cant remember) i was responding to a question bean counter asked about being too exploitable vs C/R's - speaking in terms my whole range and not this hand. ie with middleish pairs and perhaps even some of. my better Ahigh's. because villain rarely actually has a hand and i can believably have quite a few strong/nutted hands when i CB/call a C/R

    above mightnt make sense as ive also been drinking quite a bit. i'll make more sense of t tomorrow if needs be
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