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  1. #151
    Yeah I agree with zook. Most people aren't 4betting those hands and imo it's very bad to do so unless you know that you're calling a shove and why you are doing so.
  2. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by zook
    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24
    I think its safe to say that IF villain is 4-betting 99/TT and AQ that they ARE going to be calling a 5-bet shove. Otherwise, I can't imagine why they'd 4-bet/fold such strong hands. That's why I included those in the range.
    Yeah, you're right I should have said I don't think they're 4-betting them. Although AQ is still a fold if you 4bet it and get shoved on without history.
    Zook - Regs on fulltilt don't 4bet 99+/AQ+ and get it in? Idk I feel like it's totally standard and maybe even get it in lighter vs an aggro reg you have history with. Maybe it's just those scandis that 4bet 44 then get it in
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  3. #153
    Yah I agree with Alexos, maybe crypto is playing differently.

    I've definitely 4-bet/been getting it in a ton with 99/TT type hands if someone is 3-betting me a lot. If you don't widen your 4-betvalue/5-bet calling range, then they can just 5-bet bluff you to hell and once in a while you'll call with your premiums.

    And I've definitely had many ppl lately 4-bet/call my 5-bet shove with hands like 88 or AQ or worse even.

    Personally, I'd rather 4-bet/call off a hand like 99 than play to their 3-bet OOP. It could just be a preference thing.
  4. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexos
    Zook - Regs on fulltilt don't 4bet 99+/AQ+ and get it in? Idk I feel like it's totally standard and maybe even get it in lighter vs an aggro reg you have history with. Maybe it's just those scandis that 4bet 44 then get it in
    Some regs do but it's definitely not the rule. AQ is at least 4% worse equity wise than TT/99 vs. a tight 5-betting range so I just flat 3bets with it in and oop without a solid read that they'll 5bet shove a wider range. Why waste a hand that dominates a few hands in their 3betting range by turning it into bluff? 99+ I don't mind 4betting and getting in as much b/c they're hard to play post-flop in a 3bet pot, but I still like some history.
  5. #155
    Haven't posted in a bit, which is mostly cause I've toned down the playing the last week or so. Been going out too much I guess, though I really should concentrate on writing my thesis more in the day instead of slacking off :P

    Taking a break from this month is probably good, since I'm still solidly like 25ishk under EV for the month. last couple sessions I had a few small winning sessions and just stopped and booked the win, cause while in general I don't think ending sessions prematurely just cause you're up is good, I think psychologically I need some winning days under my belt this month.

    It also helps to see some green in HEM instead a sea of red!

    In other news, it sounds like pokerplex (a skin of crypto) has left the crypto network. It's kind of worrisome when skins start leaving the network. There has also been rumour of Will Hill leaving at some point
    ( http://www.casinomeister.com/news/ju...NTURE-SOLD.php )

    This would be pretty bad as it's the biggest skin on crypto. Not sure what kind of impact that would have though.. Anyone who knows better about this kind of thing, let me know!
  6. #156
    So the last few sessions I had been playing well. Had been making a minor comeback of sorts, playing more shorter sessions and booking wins and cutting losses more. Was up around 6kish last few days and felt like things were turning around.

    But alas.. the Poker Cooler Gods returned today and smacked me around.

    Few hands from today. First couple I'm interested in suggestions, last several are just cooler central.

    Hand 1:
    -what's the best turn play?
    -I decided on the river that the only hand he'd really shove with here for value was Kd or maybe Qd. Also after flop call, I decided that he couldn't have either the Kd or Qd unless he had KdXd or QdXd (so flush over flush on turn anyhow).
    -So I ended up calling river, good/bad?


    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    5 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG ($249.31)
    CO ($801.99)
    Hero ($500.00)
    SB ($729.96)
    BB ($543.65)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 5 players) Hero is BTN
    UTG raises to $10, CO calls $10, Hero calls $10, 2 folds

    Flop: ($37, 3 players)
    UTG checks, CO bets $20, Hero raises to $85, UTG folds, CO calls $65

    Turn: ($207, 2 players)
    CO bets $110, Hero calls $110

    River: ($427, 2 players)
    CO bets $596.99, Hero calls $295


    Hand 2:
    -I'm not sure what best way to play this is? Raise flop or just flat the 20? I feel like I'm getting close to good odds after the two shoves

    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    6 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG ($213.40)
    UTG+1 ($195.00)
    CO ($441.09)
    BTN ($311.00)
    Hero ($506.40)
    BB ($502.15)
    [CO posted $5]

    Pre-flop: ($12, 6 players) Hero is SB
    UTG calls $5, UTG+1 calls $5, CO checks, BTN calls $5, Hero calls $3, BB checks

    Flop: ($30, 6 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $20, CO calls $20, BTN calls $20, Hero raises to $90, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $190, CO folds, BTN raises to $306, Hero calls $216

    Turn: ($852, 3 players)

    River: ($852, 3 players)

    Final Pot: $852
    UTG+1 shows:
    BTN shows:
    Hero shows:


    AND NOW TO COOLERVILLE:

    Hand 3:
    -this hand was HU and he was calling most of my 3-bets

    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    2 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    BTN ($709.50)
    Hero ($788.00)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 2 players) Hero is BB
    BTN raises to $15, Hero raises to $60, BTN calls $45

    Flop: ($120, 2 players)
    Hero bets $110, BTN calls $110

    Turn: ($340, 2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN checks

    River: ($340, 2 players)
    Hero bets $295, BTN raises to $539.50, Hero calls $244.50

    Final Pot: $1419
    Hero shows:
    BTN shows:

    BTN wins $1418 ( won +$708.50 )
    Hero lost -$709.50


    Hand 4:
    -I'm not too happy at all being c/r'd on this flop. I guess AQ is the only hand doing this for value. I wonder if this is a fold even?... naaah who am I kididng, I can't fold!

    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    4 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    CO ($779.90)
    Hero ($650.00)
    SB ($806.25)
    BB ($1090.25)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 4 players) Hero is BTN
    CO raises to $20, Hero raises to $60, 2 folds, CO calls $40

    Flop: ($127, 2 players)
    CO checks, Hero bets $55, CO raises to $135, Hero raises to $295, CO raises to $719.90, Hero calls $295

    Turn: ($1436.90, 2 players)

    River: ($1436.90, 2 players)

    Final Pot: $1436.90
    CO shows:
    Hero shows:

    CO wins $1434.90 ( won +$655.00 )
    Hero lost -$650.00


    Hand 5:

    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    6 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG ($968.25)
    UTG+1 ($1426.90)
    CO ($494.00)
    BTN ($496.40)
    Hero ($488.00)
    BB ($940.25)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 6 players) Hero is SB
    4 folds, Hero raises to $15, BB calls $10

    Flop: ($30, 2 players)
    Hero bets $25, BB raises to $50, Hero raises to $155, BB calls $105

    Turn: ($340, 2 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks

    River: ($340, 2 players)
    Hero bets $318, BB calls $318

    Final Pot: $976
    Hero shows:
    BB shows:

    BB wins $973 ( won +$485 )
    Hero lost -$488.00
  7. #157
    Just interested in a vote on what the best line is here for this river.

    -This hand is 1/2 pounds
    -Villain has been playing pretty aggro preflop, 3-betting me a ton in position on a diff table (3bet of about 15%), but also folding to all 3-bets , so not getting crazy out of line vs aggression pre
    - I haven't seen him do anything too wild postflop either

    -best line for river: call? raise/call? or raise/fold?

    $1/$2 No Limit Holdem
    6 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG ($230.30)
    UTG+1 ($249.27)
    CO ($137.85)
    Hero ($243.05)
    SB ($91.00)
    BB ($132.45)

    Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BTN
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $8, SB calls $7, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $6

    Flop: ($26, 3 players)
    SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $17, SB folds, UTG+1 calls $17

    Turn: ($60, 2 players)
    UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

    River: ($60, 2 players)
    UTG+1 bets $36, Hero raises to $85, UTG+1 raises to $224.27, Hero??
  8. #158
    Are people scared to comment on hands? Don't be scared! It doesn't matter what limits you play etc, any suggestions are helpful.

    So it's september, and this is goooooood. September is usually one of those "fresh starts" kind of months, where people start new leases, new schools, new all sorts of stuff. So let's hope that this is a fresh start.

    The last few days I've been playing really well (aside from one head explosion 150bb hand with Alexos, that was pure idiocy), and my non-showdown winnings have been doing well. Hopefully I keep this up in September.

    New month, here we go! Let's try to not run $20k under ev this time!

    Goals for the month:
    -maintain a higher AF
    -maintain a higher contbet % (mine has been around 56-60% for a long time)
    -steady increase of non-showdown winnings (related to previous point)
    -stop bluffing alexos like a dumbass (see: stop river c/r'ing hands that have perfectly good showdown value)
    -keep playing more HU (which I had started to do last month)
    -stop running bad
    -start running good
  9. #159
    - stop playing alexos

    ill comment on hands when I can, been very busy in work.
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  10. #160
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    Yeah man I'll get to those hands soon (bwahahaha advice from me will probably fuck you over as you know)

    Anyways, we NEED to talk!

    P.S. 5 star thread
  11. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by kmind
    Yeah man I'll get to those hands soon (bwahahaha advice from me will probably fuck you over as you know)

    Anyways, we NEED to talk!

    P.S. 5 star thread
    hahaha if I keep complaining about running bad, I might get bumped down to 4 stars :P
  12. #162
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    I probably call the raise in that last hand just because it makes no sense so it feels like he plans to bluff you a lot.

    The only hand that beats you that makes sense is 99 and I cant imagine what someone so aggressive is doing limping that. Q9 shouldnt be in his limp/call range. Unless he decided to float with 55/22 you should be pretty good.

    Main concern is that a non-nutflush or QX shouldnt really be 3-betting this river and that should make up most of his range here, which means we're relying on him bluffing a lot.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
  13. #163
    Hand 1: im not sure we can put 65, 66, 55, 22 out of his range after flop right? pretty much leaves us with him having draws, pair+GS and complete air and air is so v unlikely. Since he leads turn its hard to put him on a more certain range but he seems like he has a strong hand for sure. I dont think he will bet a str8/2pair at all on river so it seems he has a better flush.

    Hand 2: I think id call the $20 getting great immediate odds.

    Unlucky with the other hands man, u played fine imo. man you get coolered alot
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  14. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by bjsaust
    The only hand that beats you that makes sense is 99 and I cant imagine what someone so aggressive is doing limping that. Q9 shouldnt be in his limp/call range. Unless he decided to float with 55/22 you should be pretty good.

    This was pretty much why I called, cause really only Q9 or 99 made sense at all in this spot. but yah... he had Q9. I agree that most of his range for jamming is bluff or boat though, so I guess its just a matter if he's bluffing more than X% of time.. which is kind of hard to figure out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    Hand 1: im not sure we can put 65, 66, 55, 22 out of his range after flop right? pretty much leaves us with him having draws, pair+GS and complete air and air is so v unlikely. Since he leads turn its hard to put him on a more certain range but he seems like he has a strong hand for sure. I dont think he will bet a str8/2pair at all on river so it seems he has a better flush.
    I get into these kind of spots a lot, where I tell myself that I would have stacked off with my flush on the turn, and I'm still pretty sure that the only hand he can have here that beats me is a turned flush on this river, so I'll stack off here anyhow. Even though river card sucks.

    I think this is pretty bad line of thinking, and I should probably just raise turn and hope he doesn't believe me with a straight or set. He had KdJd in this spot for a turned flush and nuts on river, wheeee.
  15. #165
    So I seem to be getting into an annoying trend lately. Play a pretty decent session and then play some ginormous hand with Alexos, and quit all my tables to avoid insta-mega tilt.

    Today was no different! For some reason it always has to be deep and always on pounds tables too, bah!

    What a luckbox imo :P

    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    6 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    Hero ($1427.35)
    UTG+1 ($287.90)
    CO ($498.00)
    BTN ($160.50)
    SB ($653.95)
    BB ($1093.45)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 6 players) Hero is UTG
    Hero raises to $20, 4 folds, BB calls $15

    Flop: ($42, 2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $30, BB raises to $95, Hero calls $65

    Turn: ($232, 2 players)
    BB bets $175, Hero calls $175

    River: ($582, 2 players)
    BB bets $440, Hero raises to $1137.35, BB calls $363.45

    Final Pot: $2522.80
    BB shows:
    Hero shows:

    BB wins $2185.90 ( won +$1092.45 )
    Hero wins $333.90 ( lost -$1093.45 )


    In general though, month is going ok. AF is improved along with non-showdown winnings which is good! I'll try to stop hitting boats against Alexos, and all will be great :P
  16. #166
    follow the advice in this thread and stay off my tables, imo!!!

    btw this hand created some badddd karma implications for my next 300 hands, lolll
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  17. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexos
    follow the advice in this thread and stay off my tables, imo!!!

    btw this hand created some badddd karma implications for my next 300 hands, lolll
    hmmm maybe I should sit on your tables right now, and take advantage of this karma balance since it should be coming to MEEEEEEE!
  18. #168
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    flop is an easy fold imo
  19. #169
    Lol no wonder Alexos has 80k months.
  20. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyes
    Lol no wonder Alexos has 80k months.
    lol yessss.. lets just turn my blog into the "omg Alexos luckboxed on me thread"

    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    6 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG ($799.64)
    UTG+1 ($552.00)
    Hero ($524.00)
    BTN ($939.15)
    SB ($510.40)
    BB ($507.85)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 6 players) Hero is CO
    2 folds, Hero raises to $20, 1 fold, SB raises to $70, 1 fold, Hero raises to $135, SB calls $65

    Flop: ($275, 2 players)
    SB bets $375.40, Hero calls $375.40

    Turn: ($1025.80, 2 players)

    River: ($1025.80, 2 players)

    Final Pot: $1025.80
    SB shows:
    Hero shows:

    SB wins $1022.80 ( won +$512.40 )
    Hero lost -$510.40


    In other Alexos news: him and I will be 4 tabling 200nl HU against each other at some point in the very near future. I'm not really sure how I think that will end up. He's probably +EV.. but not as much as in 6max I don't think.
  21. #171
    dude stop makin me look like a donk
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  22. #172
    hahahahahaha the J9 hand is awesome

    as in... Alex you seriously look like a donk! Agreed there's no good line to take after calling the 4-bet... can't really call AI with J hi but MAN does open-shoving ever not make any sense!
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  23. #173
    yeah, i think my best line there would be to c/r allin a bet of <150$, and c/f to a shove
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  24. #174
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    Umm, wheres the videos?
    Just dipping my toes back in.
  25. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by bjsaust
    Umm, wheres the videos?
    Good question! Alex is up first since I actually won a bet for once in my life
  26. #176
    Tilted post.. coming up...

    So yes I'm writing this tilted right now. But that's ok, its probably good that way.

    I just lost 4k in about 30mins. I don't mind most of the stack offs really. One of them was mega bad but the rest were ok.

    But I'm still tilted. Just more at myself and how I can't get anywhere right now. Where right now means months. I have no consistency in my game at alllll. Some days I am SOOOO sick on, and I'm really good those days. Then the next day, different person entirely, and undoubtedly lose everthing I won from the previous days in like 1/10th the time.

    I read a bit of "elements of poker" and it talks about your A game and your C game. The problem is I think my positive winrate for my A game is lets say x bb/100 but I think my winrate for my C game is actually like -3x bb/100. So that means to be a breakeven player I need to play at least 3x more hands under my A game than my C game.

    That's not happening right now at all. Right now its like an accomplishment when I play a solid full day and I'm like "wow I played good today"... instead of a rare occurrence when I play bad and am like "god I played bad today".

    DEATH TO MY C GAME! Seriously. Serously. If I wanna get anywhere, that's the only way.

    I'm contemplating putting postit notes on my monitor. They will say:
    "FOLD"
    "Do you think he's bluffing? He's not. FOLD"
    "Oh he might have a missed draw. He doesn't. FOLD"
    "You're gonna bluff aren't you? Don't. FOLD"
    "QTo UTG? wtf. FOLD"

    Ok. That's my tilted rant. Operation stop SUCKING starting NOW.
  27. #177
    the end of that post brought tears to my eyes
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  28. #178
    Other helpful post-it notes:

    "You have position? So what? Doesn't give you the right to make dumbass calls"

    "The term check/fold was invented for a reason. Learn it!"

    In all seriousness, that last point is really important. I'm really bad at check folding when I have a hand with some value. I try to value bet WAAAY too much in spots that really should be c/f's. I need to fix that up asap.

    Here are a couple hands that I think are c/f's and Alexos also felt they were c/f's.


    Hand 1

    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    6 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG ($724.40)
    UTG+1 ($493.00)
    Hero ($493.00)
    BTN ($633.41)
    SB ($217.25)
    BB ($360.50)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 6 players) Hero is CO
    2 folds, Hero raises to $15, BTN calls $15, 2 folds

    Flop: ($37, 2 players)
    Hero bets $20, BTN calls $20

    Turn: ($77, 2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN checks

    River: ($77, 2 players)
    Hero bets $50, BTN calls $50

    Final Pot: $177
    Hero shows:
    BTN shows:

    BTN wins $174 ( won +$89 )
    Hero lost -$85.00


    Hand 2:

    $5/$10 No Limit Holdem
    6 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG ($2048.00)
    UTG+1 ($1722.75)
    CO ($1067.00)
    BTN ($1764.50)
    Hero ($990.00)
    BB ($880.04)

    Pre-flop: ($15, 6 players) Hero is SB
    1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $30, 2 folds, Hero calls $25, 1 fold

    Flop: ($70, 2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $50, Hero calls $50

    Turn: ($170, 2 players)
    Hero bets $95, UTG+1 calls $95

    River: ($360, 2 players)
    Hero bets $165, UTG+1 calls $165

    Final Pot: $750
    UTG+1 shows:
    Hero shows:

    UTG+1 wins $747 ( won +$377 )
    Hero lost -$370.00
  29. #179
    sounds like you need to quit profitably, and I mean like 5mins in to a c game session.
  30. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyes
    sounds like you need to quit profitably, and I mean like 5mins in to a c game session.
    Yah I agree.. I really do need to do that.

    What NOT to do when you're already having a bad day.. is play a drunken guy HU. Actually... this is probably a good idea, but not when he's gonna have the poker gods on his side.

    -some reads I noticed pretty early on was to start, I was minraise the button and he was 3-betting EVERY SINGLE HAND hard from 10 to like 55 and I'd call and he'd spew postflop

    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    2 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    Hero ($1011.00)
    BB ($619.00)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 2 players) Hero is BTN
    Hero raises to $20, BB raises to $35, Hero calls $15

    Flop: ($70, 2 players)
    BB bets $39, Hero raises to $976, BB calls $545

    Turn: ($1630, 2 players)

    River: ($1630, 2 players)

    Final Pot: $1630
    BB shows:
    Hero shows:

    Hero wins $1629 ( won +$618 )
    BB lost -$619.00




    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    2 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    Hero ($502.00)
    BB ($601.78)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 2 players) Hero is BTN
    Hero raises to $10, BB raises to $45, Hero calls $35

    Flop: ($90, 2 players)
    BB bets $66, Hero raises to $457, BB calls $391

    Turn: ($1004, 2 players)

    River: ($1004, 2 players)

    Final Pot: $1004
    BB shows:
    Hero shows:

    Hero wins $1003 ( won +$501 )
    BB lost -$502.00


    Things started off well, and I got ahead by a pretty big amount to start. Then I made a really really big big mistake, and that was to bluff this guy or even try to. Not so much a mistake, cause he might have been a station. But a mistake since I had the momentum going, and I really shouldn't have tried a bluff.

    Though for the record, this hand was the second hand I had 3-bet him the ENTIRE match so far, and it was pretty far in.


    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    2 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    BTN ($1230.50)
    Hero ($1571.50)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 2 players) Hero is BB
    BTN raises to $15, Hero raises to $55, BTN calls $40

    Flop: ($110, 2 players)
    Hero bets $75, BTN calls $75

    Turn: ($260, 2 players)
    Hero bets $250, BTN calls $250

    River: ($760, 2 players)
    Hero bets $1191.50, BTN calls $850.50

    Final Pot: $2802
    BTN shows:
    Hero shows:

    BTN wins $2460 ( won +$1229.50 )
    Hero wins $341 ( lost -$1230.50 )


    Then this hand not so long after completely gave him the momentum back. A much better line against a station like this is to jam the river instead of turn, cause he's more likely to call with some nonsense on turn.

    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    2 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    Hero ($2057.00)
    BB ($754.00)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 2 players) Hero is BTN
    Hero raises to $10, BB raises to $55, Hero calls $45

    Flop: ($110, 2 players)
    BB bets $99, Hero raises to $295, BB calls $196

    Turn: ($700, 2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $404, BB calls $404

    River: ($1508, 2 players)

    Final Pot: $1508
    BB shows:
    Hero shows:

    BB wins $1507 ( won +$753 )
    Hero lost -$754.00


    And then he started luckboxing.. turn jam is full on value. He's calling all draws and all K's

    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    2 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    BTN ($2611.50)
    Hero ($500.00)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 2 players) Hero is BB
    BTN raises to $15, Hero raises to $55, BTN calls $40

    Flop: ($110, 2 players)
    Hero bets $70, BTN calls $70

    Turn: ($250, 2 players)
    Hero bets $375, BTN calls $375

    River: ($1000, 2 players)

    Final Pot: $1000
    BTN shows:
    Hero shows:

    BTN wins $999 ( won +$499 )
    Hero lost -$500.00


    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    2 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    Hero ($502.00)
    BB ($3732.50)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 2 players) Hero is BTN
    Hero raises to $10, BB raises to $25, Hero raises to $105, BB calls $70

    Flop: ($200, 2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $95, BB calls $95

    Turn: ($390, 2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $0, BB calls $312

    River: ($702, 2 players)

    Final Pot: $702
    BB shows:
    Hero shows:

    BB wins $1003 ( won +$501 )
    Hero lost -$200.00




    Then I realized that if I 4bet, he was calling EVERY SINGLE 4Bet.. after also 3-beting me with his ENTIRE RANGE practically. Certainly this should be exploited...

    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    2 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    Hero ($1969.00)
    BB ($498.00)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 2 players) Hero is BTN
    Hero raises to $15, BB raises to $55, Hero raises to $180, BB calls $125

    Flop: ($360, 2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $1789, BB folds

    Final Pot: $2149

    Hero wins $2148 ( won +$179 )
    BB lost -$180.00


    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    2 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    Hero ($1788.00)
    BB ($501.00)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 2 players) Hero is BTN
    Hero raises to $10, BB raises to $55, Hero raises to $180, BB calls $125

    Flop: ($360, 2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $1608, BB folds

    Final Pot: $1968

    Hero wins $1967 ( won +$179 )
    BB lost -$180.00



    This was the last hand... I couldn't handle how lucky he was getting in spots and I had already lost enough for the day. Maybe its a mistake leaving this guy cause he was playing SOO BAD.. but I don't think I was up for teh variance on this day.

    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    2 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    Hero ($488.00)
    BB ($4848.00)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 2 players) Hero is BTN
    Hero raises to $10, BB raises to $25, Hero raises to $160, BB calls $135

    Flop: ($320, 2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $328, BB calls $328

    Turn: ($976, 2 players)

    River: ($976, 2 players)

    Final Pot: $976
    BB shows:
    Hero shows:

    BB wins $975 ( won +$487 )
    Hero lost -$488.00
  31. #181
    I've been on a poker break lately, or at least an online poker break. I just needed some time away to kinda get back to basics and regroup. I was in montreal this past weekend so that was a good getaway. It was my bday on the sat and then a good friends wedding on the sunday.

    I hung around there longer on monday, and met up with Alexos and Genitruc (and Gen's brother) there. Was cool chilling with those guys and we played some $60nl (0.25/0.50 blinds) 4-handed between us.

    The game was going pretty well. Alexos was being the table mega fish (obviously!), playing like 80 vpip and was in for like 5 buyins. Genitruc was being pretty aggro pre (treating AJs like it was the nuts, 4bet and 5-bet jamming with it - AND being ahead... good reads?). I was definitely playing the tightest of everyone, and none of my hands had gone to showdown unless I voluntarily showed.

    Gen kept saying he wanted a big hand with me since we were both 250bb's deep. Then this hand happened.

    Alexos is UTG ($60ish?)
    Genitruc is Btn ($150ish)
    Gen's bro is SB posts $0.25 ($100ish)
    Griffey24 BB posts $0.50 ($150ish)

    Griffey24 is dealt :Kc: :Ks:
    Alexos raises to $2, Genitruc calls $2, 1 fold, Griffey24 raises to $8,
    Alexos folds, Genitruc calls.

    Dealing flop: :Ad: (pot $18)

    Griffey24 bets $12, Genitruc calls

    Dealing turn: :Ad: :Js: (pot $42)

    Griffey24 checks right away (Genitruc doesn't notice for like 3 mins waiting around, till we tell him action is on him). He insta JAMSSS for $135 into $42 pot!

    I tank and tank.. and he says he'll show one card and I pick. I pick one
    and he shows

    $135 to me, in $42 pot... HERO??

    (sorry.. thats the only interesting hand I've played in the last week, and its a live hand!)

    Thanks for the game guys!
  32. #182
    loooool you're such a fish
  33. #183
    I call for sure.
  34. #184
    Just to look like a sick bastard the times I'm right. Fuck the EV.
  35. #185
    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyes
    Just to look like a sick bastard the times I'm right. Fuck the EV.
    lol.. soo true! Who shoves $135 into 40ish?? Genitruc.. you're such a sicko.. don't you know how often a bluff has to work in that spot? :P

    I levelled myself into a fold... and he showed . .. gaaaaaah.. nice blufff sir
  36. #186
    In other news, my blog will unofficially be named "start check/folding" instead of "stop spewing", though I suppose these things go hand in hand.

    I've concluded that NOT check/folding (marginal hands anyhow) is in fact one of my biggest leaks.

    So as of today, I will now start check/folding.

    As of today, I will also start posting HH's of hands where I think I SHOULD have check/folded but didn't.

    check/folding my way to riches..... here we go!
  37. #187
    zomg check/folding is amazing! Everyone should try it, all the cool kids are doing it!

    I check/folded my way to a solid 5.5k sesh this morning. It feels nice to have played solid for once.

    I made one spewtard bluff forr $700, but that was it. I played like a pretty big meganit though, like 19/15. I think this is good though. The nittier I play, the less hands I play. The less hands I play, the less chances I get to make crazy bluffs and spews. So good!

    I actually don't think I have any "spots I should have c/f'd HH's" to show at all. I c/f'd a lot. Another good thing about c/f is that it boosts your AF! Solid AF of 4 today.

    19/15/4.0 and 3-bet 8.6%. I like thisssss.

    more check/folding to come.. stay tuned.
  38. #188
    Fwiw I think you have a better chance in that KK hand 250bb's deep if you start by check-calling the flop. That defines your hand a lot better to both of us than making a small c-bet on an A hi rainbow board with lots of money behind.

    Way to go on the check-folding. Exciting implications for the future imo.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  39. #189
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    Fwiw I think you have a better chance in that KK hand 250bb's deep if you start by check-calling the flop. That defines your hand a lot better to both of us than making a small c-bet on an A hi rainbow board with lots of money behind.

    Way to go on the check-folding. Exciting implications for the future imo.
    Doesn't defining my hand as mostly KK make it easier for you to play against? You know I'm not that strong after check/calling and we're deep so you can just barrel my ass down there hard.
  40. #190
    yup but at least you're letting me bluff and YOUR hand is clearly defined

    the problem with betting the flop is that your hand isn't defined at all so you have less of an idea of what I think you have.

    Knowing that I know that you know that I know what you have makes your decision 1 level easier imo.

    Might sound like I'm being sarcastic but I'm actually pretty serious here.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  41. #191
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    yup but at least you're letting me bluff and YOUR hand is clearly defined

    the problem with betting the flop is that your hand isn't defined at all so you have less of an idea of what I think you have.

    Knowing that I know that you know that I know what you have makes your decision 1 level easier imo.

    Might sound like I'm being sarcastic but I'm actually pretty serious here.
    I definitely agree with you to some extent, but its all kind of levelling right.

    Like what you're saying is true. If I check/call flop, then at least I know that you know I have showdown value and have some sort of a hand on this A high board. So by that measure, if you keep firing at me, I can potentially assume you have something as well, since you can't necessarily expect me to fold.

    By the same token, after check-calling, I know that you think I'm weak now. So I might think you're trying to take me off what seems to be QQ/KK on an A high board, which often ends up in levelling into really bad stack offs.

    This is a hand I played against L oibedo last night HU:

    Obviously if I bet this flop and get raised or called I have an easy to just c/f turn or folding to a raise or whatever. But as played, I level myself into him thinking I'm just weak and so I put way more bluffs in his range now than I probably should?

    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    2 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    BTN ($462.39)
    Hero ($426.50)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 2 players) Hero is BB
    BTN raises to $20, Hero raises to $70, BTN calls $50

    Flop: ($140, 2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $100, Hero calls $100

    Turn: ($340, 2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $292.39, Hero calls $256.50

    River: ($888.89, 2 players)

    Final Pot: $888.89
    BTN shows:
    Hero shows:

    BTN wins $887.89 ( won +$425.50 )
    Hero lost -$426.50


    So I lost that level, but that's ok I won the next level. The next level was a few minutes later where the same situation played out, but this time he was on the level where he just showed down a real hand in this spot, so he thought I'd give him more credit this time around. I figured he'd be on that level, so I just let him bluff this time:

    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    2 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    BTN ($1487.05)
    Hero ($412.00)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 2 players) Hero is BB
    BTN raises to $15, Hero raises to $55, BTN calls $40

    Flop: ($110, 2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $85, Hero calls $85

    Turn: ($280, 2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $1347.05, Hero calls $272

    River: ($1899.05, 2 players)

    Final Pot: $1899.05
    BTN shows:
    Hero shows:

    BTN wins $1075.05 ( lost -$412 )
    Hero wins $823 ( won +$411 )
  42. #192
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    [] c/f turn in hand 1.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
  43. #193
    Quote Originally Posted by bjsaust
    [] c/f turn in hand 1.
    haha agreeed!

    and see what happens?

    bad things!
  44. #194
    Alexos and I played our HU session today. The plan was to 4-table 200nl until one of us lost 10 buyins (or $2k). He thought it would take like an hour, which I wasn't convinced about.

    I started the session out pretty bad. I think like the second hand of the session I had AA vs his flopped set of 3's. I had a bad feeling about things from that point on. Soon after that there were a ton of big pots, as he was 3-betting EVERYTHING from the BB and I was 4-betting him like a mad man.

    I dropped buyin after buyin pretty quick getting allin pre in 5bet pots. My A6s< his AQ, my TT < his T8o, my JJ > his TT (though this was kinda short as I hadn't topped up yet) etc etc. I was down like 6 buyins really quick. At which point he cursed himself by saying "see I told you it would be an hour", see graph below where hand 431 is where he cursed himself.




    After my 6 buyin drop, I decided that my 4-bet strategy wasn't working, as I was getting it in bad a lot and wasn't taking advantage of position. At this point I started calling a ton of his 3-bets and raising a lot of flops (as he was cont betting a lot and his range was weak given his frequency of 3-betting)

    I think he went on tilt after this hand:

    $1/$2 No Limit Holdem
    2 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    Hero ($203.00)
    BB ($589.80)

    Pre-flop: ($3, 2 players) Hero is BTN
    Hero raises to $6, BB raises to $21, Hero calls $15

    Flop: ($42, 2 players)
    BB bets $24, Hero raises to $48, BB raises to $568.80, Hero calls $134

    Turn: ($792.80, 2 players)

    River: ($792.80, 2 players)

    Final Pot: $792.80
    BB shows:
    Hero shows:

    BB wins $386.80 ( lost -$203.00 )
    Hero wins $405 ( won +$202 )


    And then everything went crazy! Bring on the comeback!


    $1/$2 No Limit Holdem
    2 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    Hero ($198.00)
    BB ($486.00)

    Pre-flop: ($3, 2 players) Hero is BTN
    Hero raises to $6, BB raises to $21, Hero calls $15

    Flop: ($42, 2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $30, BB calls $30

    Turn: ($102, 2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $147, BB calls $147

    River: ($396, 2 players)

    Final Pot: $396
    Hero shows:
    BB shows:

    Hero wins $395 ( won +$197 )
    BB lost -$198.00



    $1/$2 No Limit Holdem
    2 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    Hero ($357.40)
    BB ($429.00)

    Pre-flop: ($3, 2 players) Hero is BTN
    Hero raises to $6, BB calls $4

    Flop: ($12, 2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $8, BB raises to $25, Hero calls $17

    Turn: ($62, 2 players)
    BB bets $44, Hero calls $44

    River: ($150, 2 players)
    BB bets $354, Hero calls $282.40

    Final Pot: $786.40
    BB shows:
    Hero shows:

    BB wins $71.60 ( lost -$357.40 )
    Hero wins $713.80 ( won +$356.40 )


    -double check/raise line is SUPPPER weird and was really bluffy
    -really tanked on this river and wanted to call but didn't have it in me
    -apparently he had 34 or some crap for a gutter on the flop
    -nh sir!

    $1/$2 No Limit Holdem
    2 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    Hero ($244.00)
    BB ($406.00)

    Pre-flop: ($3, 2 players) Hero is BTN
    Hero calls $1, BB checks

    Flop: ($4, 2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB raises to $12, Hero calls $9

    Turn: ($28, 2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $20, BB raises to $65, Hero calls $45

    River: ($158, 2 players)
    BB bets $327, Hero folds

    Final Pot: $485

    BB wins $484 ( won +$78 )
    Hero lost -$79.00


    -I tanked on this river again. AFter thinking about it, the way this match
    was going I really can't imagine him not barelling the turn with like
    QJ or JT or something like that
    -on the river it looks like I'm going for thin value, as I checked through the turn so I think his c/r range can be wide. Also he probably figures AK isn't in my range and he's clearly trying to rep AK or something I guess
    -given dynamic I think this shoulda been more of an insta call than I made it

    $1/$2 No Limit Holdem
    2 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    Hero ($375.40)
    BB ($464.00)

    Pre-flop: ($3, 2 players) Hero is BTN
    Hero raises to $6, BB raises to $21, Hero calls $15

    Flop: ($42, 2 players)
    BB bets $32, Hero calls $32

    Turn: ($106, 2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks

    River: ($106, 2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $75, BB raises to $411, Hero calls $247.40

    Final Pot: $839.40
    BB shows:
    Hero shows:

    BB wins $88.60 ( lost -$375.40 )
    Hero wins $749.80 ( won +$374.40 )


    He decided he needed to quit due to tilt, and I agreed since he was mega tilting. Just glad I was able to get back to even pretty much after that bad start.

    Lessons learned:
    -folding or 4-betting in position HU kinda sucks, as you're letting your opp off easy by never having to play postflop OOP.
    -things started to go a lot better once I started calling 3-bets, esp since his range was so wide
  45. #195
    I'm pretty confident that right now the biggest thing in my way from this break-even marginal winning nonsense and winning something legitimate is big folds. I can't make big folds for the life of me... gaaaaaaaah


    Hand 1
    -this hand is debateable. Most people will probably just say raise flop and ram this puppy and get it in
    -I don't perceive villain as spewy at all though and I think river might even be a really tight fold. I don't mind how I played it against this particular player though

    $5/$10 No Limit Holdem
    6 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    Hero ($1019.00)
    UTG+1 ($3671.50)
    CO ($1134.00)
    BTN ($1827.75)
    SB ($1201.50)
    BB ($1227.75)

    Pre-flop: ($15, 6 players) Hero is UTG
    Hero raises to $30, 3 folds, SB calls $25, 1 fold

    Flop: ($70, 2 players)
    SB bets $30, Hero calls $30

    Turn: ($130, 2 players)
    SB bets $30, Hero calls $30

    River: ($190, 2 players)
    SB bets $170, Hero calls $170

    Final Pot: $530
    SB shows:
    Hero shows:

    SB wins $527 ( won +$267 )
    Hero lost -$260.00


    Hand 2
    -I really think this needs to be a fold here. Especially given his bet sizing with the flop raise and turn bet.

    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    5 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG ($985.30)
    CO ($1518.57)
    BTN ($315.65)
    SB ($640.90)
    Hero ($538.80)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 5 players) Hero is BB
    1 fold, CO calls $5, BTN calls $5, 1 fold, Hero raises to $25, CO folds, BTN calls $20

    Flop: ($57, 2 players)
    Hero bets $35, BTN raises to $80, Hero calls $45

    Turn: ($217, 2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $100, Hero raises to $200, BTN raises to $210.65, Hero calls $10.65

    River: ($638.30, 2 players)

    Final Pot: $638.30
    BTN shows:
    Hero shows:

    BTN wins $635.30 ( won +$319.65 )
    CO lost -$5.00
    Hero lost -$315.65


    Hand 3
    -This hand I'm really torn about. Feedback would be appreciated. So annoying always getting into these spots at 2/5 pounds and deep
    -I SUCK at playing big pairs OOP for 200bb's. I always end up doing this dumbass c/c nonsense to avoid getting raised on flops.
    -I have no idea what the best line is here at all
    -villain was playing somewhat tight pre and had made a move or two earlier but I caught him in the bluff. That could make this even more likely to be real
    -river fold??

    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    6 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG ($1058.40)
    UTG+1 ($474.15)
    CO ($357.22)
    BTN ($573.00)
    SB ($732.89)
    Hero ($1433.75)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 6 players) Hero is BB
    UTG raises to $20, 4 folds, Hero raises to $80, UTG calls $60

    Flop: ($162, 2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG bets $100, Hero calls $100

    Turn: ($362, 2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG bets $220, Hero calls $220

    River: ($802, 2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG bets $500, Hero ??
  46. #196
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    Hand 1 I'd play the same.

    Hand 2 I probably just fold turn. Hmm, although I notice he's short, so meh its probably fine. I think the choice comes on the flop then, and I dont think I could fold this flop.

    Hand 3 arrg this ones ugly. 100bbs I'm c/r'ing flop and getting it in. We've kind of taken a line to induce a 3 barrel bluff but really dont want to call river now we're there. I think river is a fold but I dont think calling is a big mistake. Its the sort of spot I'll make a tilty call and be pleasantly surprised sometimes but walk away realising I should have folded.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
  47. #197
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    in 3, for some reason, i see Ks or Qs as a huge part of his range

    sets probably bet turn bigger

    since we have As, i lean towards calling

    if he has exactly KsXs, will he not, like, ship it in on river?
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  48. #198
    Thanks for the replies guys.

    bjsaust - yah he's short in the AK hand so its prob ok to ship it in on the flop, since there are so many draws.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
    in 3, for some reason, i see Ks or Qs as a huge part of his range

    sets probably bet turn bigger

    since we have As, i lean towards calling

    if he has exactly KsXs, will he not, like, ship it in on river?
    With regards to bet sizing,I actually thought something similar to your line of thinking. That he might bet smaller on river with a bluff or something, instead of shoving, so it looks more like he wants to call. Kind of like a level, where he doesn't want to shove with a bluff in case it looks bluffy.

    I think having the As though, should make us lean towards folding, as he's not barrel bluffing with the bare As here?
  49. #199
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    yes, but, what does he think you have?

    what range do you think he puts you on?
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  50. #200
    1 is fine but I'm never folding the river.

    2 I don't see how you're ever folding vs. a 60bb stack.

    3 I like your line and I think the river's a fold.
  51. #201
    zook would you fold 555 in hand 3 if we got to the river with this line?
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  52. #202
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
    yes, but, what does he think you have?

    what range do you think he puts you on?
    Well this is what I always get torn about in these hands, when I 3-bet pre and then start c/calling post.

    I'm torn between them thinking my c/c looks weak ass .. or at least me thinking that.. and me thinking they are trying to blow my perceived weak hand off the pot. Or that they think my hand looks like I have definite showdown value and they are value towning me.

    I always resort to concluding the first.. which convinces me to call.. but it always seems to be the second is true.
  53. #203
    in the AA hand it looks like you have AQ with the As or TT-JJ so I think it comes down to history and what you think about villain
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  54. #204
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    zook would you fold 555 in hand 3 if we got to the river with this line?
    Sure... the only advantages it has over AA are beating 87s and taking 55 out of his range. btw, I'm saying I think hero's beat here, not that I would fold if playing the hand. Villain's range is polarized on the river and I just don't think there are enough bluffs in his range.
  55. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by zook
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    zook would you fold 555 in hand 3 if we got to the river with this line?
    Sure... the only advantages it has over AA are beating 87s and taking 55 out of his range. btw, I'm saying I think hero's beat here, not that I would fold if playing the hand. Villain's range is polarized on the river and I just don't think there are enough bluffs in his range.
    so we don't think villain can be betting KK or AQ w As on river for value pretty much ever?

    edit : gg me (we have As oops)
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  56. #206
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    so we don't think villain can be betting KK or AQ w Qs on river for value pretty much ever?
    FYP, this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    in the AA hand it looks like you have AQ with the As or TT-JJ so I think it comes down to history and what you think about villain
    and also this
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  58. #208
    I think a better question is if WE are villain with KK (with or without spade on river) should we be value betting our hand given how hero played hand?
  59. #209
    So yesterday sucked pretty solidly. I don't think I played too bad at all, but lost quite a bit at 2/5 pounds and ended up down 7kish.

    One of my reoccuring mistakes was 4-betting AK and getting flatted by an OOP player. Then with maybe a bit more than potsize bet left, I'd just jam any flop and they'd undoubtedly call with any pair since the flop had no A or K on it. My logic was that I have to b/c if I bet so might as well jam. I think my default instead should be to just check flop in position, and fold turn if missed.

    Here are some of my 2/5 pounds hands:

    Hand 1:
    -Always good to start a hand with Alexos
    -I know he's capable of squeezing light so I 4-bet small here to hopefully either induce a shove from hands like A4-A6s which I know he loves or to just allow me to 4-bet bluff small here in the future
    -it's a marginal spot for sure either way

    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    5 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG ($601.00)
    CO ($500.00)
    Hero ($466.00)
    SB ($406.00)
    BB ($957.00)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 5 players) Hero is BTN
    1 fold, CO raises to $17, Hero calls $17, 1 fold, BB raises to $77, CO folds, Hero raises to $140, BB raises to $957, Hero calls $326

    Flop: ($1442, 2 players)

    Turn: ($1442, 2 players)

    River: ($1442, 2 players)

    Final Pot: $1442
    Hero shows:
    BB shows:

    BB wins $1439 ( won +$482 )
    CO lost -$17.00
    Hero lost -$466.00


    Hand 2:
    -This player calls ALL 3-bets pretty much no matter what. Something like
    folds to 3-bet low 30%

    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    4 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    CO ($324.41)
    BTN ($661.00)
    SB ($776.65)
    Hero ($540.00)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 4 players) Hero is BB
    1 fold, BTN raises to $15, SB calls $13, Hero raises to $60, BTN folds, SB calls $45

    Flop: ($135, 2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $100, SB raises to $250, Hero raises to $480, SB calls $230

    Turn: ($1095, 2 players)

    River: ($1095, 2 players)

    Final Pot: $1095
    SB shows:
    Hero shows:

    SB wins $1093 ( won +$553 )
    Hero lost -$540.00
    BTN lost -$15.00


    Hand 3:
    -I'm interested in thoughts on this hand
    -this is the type of player that also calls a ton of 3-bets and peels all low boards and folds all A/K high type boards. So I think that flatting hands like AQ/AK against this player is sometimes best
    -once I c/r flop can I really fold to bomb ever?

    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    5 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG ($664.00)
    CO ($500.00)
    BTN ($796.24)
    SB ($588.40)
    Hero ($626.30)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 5 players) Hero is BB
    2 folds, BTN raises to $20, 1 fold, Hero calls $15

    Flop: ($42, 2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $40, Hero raises to $140, BTN raises to $776.24, Hero calls??


    Hand 4:
    -meh dumb hand.. had 4-bet this guy twice already and thought he might even ship it in pre light given how deep we were. I should probably
    start sizing my 3-bets/4-bets better to stacksizes
    -postflop staaaaaandard

    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    3 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    Hero ($826.00)
    SB ($823.50)
    BB ($513.00)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 3 players) Hero is BTN
    Hero raises to $15, SB raises to $50, BB folds, Hero raises to $135, SB calls $85

    Flop: ($275, 2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $175, SB raises to $688.50, Hero calls $513.50

    Turn: ($1652, 2 players)

    River: ($1652, 2 players)

    Final Pot: $1652
    Hero shows:
    SB shows:

    SB wins $1650 ( won +$826.50 )
    Hero lost -$823.50
  60. #210
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    Wow, what was your ai EV for the session?
    Just dipping my toes back in.
  61. #211
    Quote Originally Posted by bjsaust
    Wow, what was your ai EV for the session?
    not too hot! It's hard to tell in HEM cause these hands are pounds but it doesn't convert properly. So I'd say prob around 2k under in USD.
  62. #212
    villain seems to have gotten better so I'd be pretty happy to ship it in in the AK hand since you can't really have anything and he could therefore probably be shipping with random bluffs like any oesd or broadway gutter figuring he has pretty good fold equity when you re bluffing and some equity even when you have a monster.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  63. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    loibedo seems to have gotten better so I'd be pretty happy to ship it in in the AK hand since you can't really have anything and he could therefore probably be shipping with random bluffs like any oesd or broadway gutter figuring he has pretty good fold equity when you re bluffing and some equity even when you have a monster.
    haha I like how you knew who it was without me even saying!

    And yah I agree that given that my line makes no sense, he could definitely be shipping like AJ/AQ type hands for value even. I was trying to avoid names from now on though cause ppl damn google themselves :P
  64. #214
    stupid monitors!

    I'm currently running two 19 inchers, one LG and one DCLCD. The DCLCD is acting up lately which makes me just wanna get two new monitors entirely.

    Any suggestions??
  65. #215
    I got a 24" Samsung 245BW a couple of months ago to go with my old 19". It's ok, nothing special but I haven't had any problems with it. It was cheap at Costco and max res. is 1920x1200 which makes for easy 6 tabling without overlap (with tables resized slightly smaller).
  66. #216
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    My dream... is to fly... over the rainbow... so high...


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  67. #217
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
    wow thats pretty damn sick! And cheaper than the cost of getting like 2 new 24's.

    Anyone have any thoughts on one like 27 or 30 incher vs two 24's or maybe 2 22's?
  68. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
    wow thats pretty damn sick! And cheaper than the cost of getting like 2 new 24's.

    Anyone have any thoughts on one like 27 or 30 incher vs two 24's or maybe 2 22's?
    Little point getting a 27" over a 24" because they have the same max resolution. 30"ers go up to 2560x1600 so they're worthwhile but a lot more expensive.
  69. #219
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    in 27" vs 24"; while they do have the same screen res, the actual pixels are obviously a little bigger, meaning everything will look a little bigger. easier on my tired eyes imo.

    30" have the same aspect as 24", that is, if something is 1x1cm on a 24", it will be 1x1cm on a 30", but 1.1x1.1cm on a 27"

    (example figures to show difference, actual difference may vary)
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  70. #220
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    Resolution is the thing you're most worried about. For instance I run a 2nd monitor with my laptop. My laptop screen is only 19" but runs 1920x1200, but my 2nd monitor is 22" however only runs 1680x1050. In simple terms it means I can run 4 noIQ tables with little overlap on the laptop part, but only 2 tables on the 22" which kind of sucks.

    If you're only really interested in poker and webbrowsing/vids/etc then go for the most resolution in whatever size you prefer and ignore all the other numbers. If you can get the same res in bigger or smaller monitors then just go for the one you want most.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
  71. #221
    Good points guys!

    I'll probably look into a couple high res 24's or something. That seems like the best fit, and would probably work decently on my desk.

    I guess I should figure out my budget on this. I think I'm gonna buy this as a reward for going on a 20k upswing. Whenever I reach 20k from where I'm at now.. its new monitor time!
  72. #222
    I'm scared to say it out of fear of jinxing myself... but I think I'm back! I've finally (after like a year) found myself. Let's see if I can keep it up now.. more 3-betting, more squeezing, more 4-betting and just more preflop madness in general!

    Here are a couple of hands from today.


    Hand 1 - "Can I call??"

    -villain is west park on crypto
    -he 3-bets pretty often, never ever folds to 3-bets and squeezes often as well (around 8ish)
    -shorty is well.. a donkish shorty and no big reads other than that. not a good shortstacker at all
    -I've seen villain make several suspect calls of shorty shoves today with weird hands like J9s and other nonsense blatantly not getting odds
    -can I ever call here?? should I ever call? I'm pretty sure villain perceives me as weak and that he's tryin to iso shorty with all the dead money

    $2/$5 No Limit Holdem
    5 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG ($782.10)
    Hero ($493.00)
    BTN ($500.00)
    SB ($195.00)
    BB ($838.65)

    Pre-flop: ($7, 5 players) Hero is CO
    1 fold, Hero raises to $15, 1 fold, SB calls $13, BB raises to $70, Hero calls $55, SB raises to $195, BB raises to $838.65, Hero ??


    Hand 2 - "How's my bluff?"

    -villain is the 2jetsr
    -villain calls ALLLLL 3-bets practically, his fold to 3-bet OOP or IP is like 30% folds and 70% calls. He calls with such nonsense, suited connectors, pairs, crappy suited aces etc etc. Pretty much his calling range is like his opening range (though he has a 'tightish' opening range)
    (aside: I really shouldn't be 3betting such an ass hand in the first place, given above)
    -my read on the situation is that most ppl would bet a FD on turn after I checked flop (good read??) and that he can't be that strong ever as played
    -river is an overbet into a pot of like 500ish

    $5/$10 No Limit Holdem
    5 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG ($1000.00)
    CO ($1553.50)
    Hero ($1392.00)
    SB ($1895.00)
    BB ($1522.00)

    Pre-flop: ($15, 5 players) Hero is BTN
    1 fold, CO raises to $30, Hero raises to $100, 2 folds, CO calls $70

    Flop: ($215, 2 players)
    CO checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($215, 2 players)
    CO checks, Hero bets $150, CO calls $150

    River: ($515, 2 players)
    CO checks, Hero bets $875


    Hand 3 - "am I a tool for worrying here?"

    -no reads on villain at all. I don't why but sometimes I get tunnelvision where I convince myself that certain hands are most likely. After the flop
    flat of shorty and then flat of my raise I was pretty scared and thought his most likely holdings were QT, KJ, J9 (bad assumption?)
    -given my tunnel vision, turn doesn't help my cause at all and I slow down..
    -am I a complete donkass for flatting this river?


    $5/$10 No Limit Holdem
    5 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    Hero ($1011.50)
    CO ($1426.00)
    BTN ($122.78)
    SB ($1013.00)
    BB ($990.00)

    Pre-flop: ($15, 5 players) Hero is UTG
    Hero raises to $40, 1 fold, BTN calls $40, 1 fold, BB calls $30

    Flop: ($125, 3 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $82.78, BB calls $82.78, Hero raises to $255, BB calls $172.22

    Turn: ($717.78, 3 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks

    River: ($717.78, 3 players)
    BB bets $100, Hero calls $100
  73. #223
    New month.. new hope.. blah blah blah. Playing 5/10 is a weird thing. You can run even for a long while, run bad for a long while.. play bad for a long while. But you know that you're just one "fix".. one good month away from like a $30k+ month or something. So it keeps you stuck there.. to the hope that things will turn around! Cause let's get real, in the grand scheme of working and all that, $30k in a month (untaxed) is madness.

    I'm pretty sure I'd have made way way way more the last.. geez who knows.. whole year.. if I had dropped down to 2/5 sooner or down to 1/2 even. It's just a matter of whether what I'm learning through these rough times at 5/10 and stuff is worth it! (not to mention that its hard dropping down 2 levels from what you're used to).

    Alex and I made a prop bet.. as per usual. If he wins 50k this month, I owe him 1k. (that almost seems like a lock with how many hands he plays (80k per month) and how good he's been of late). If I win 25k, he owes me 1k. I'm going balls out on this bet. My last several months have been nothing to write home about, but I think the last week or my game has turned. I think the most likely occurrence in this bet is that we break even, which is gooood!

    goals for this month are simple:
    -lower my went to SD
    -translation: fold goddamn rivers

    soooo here we go October! 25k month coming up!
  74. #224
    ...awaiting the comments on how much of a prop bet fish I am, given we play the same limits
    Nine to five is how to survive - I ain't trying to survive / I'm trying to live it to the limit and love it a lot //

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  75. #225
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexos
    ...awaiting the comments on how much of a prop bet fish I am, given we play the same limits
    I think you got the better end of this one.

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