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  1. #151
    Woohoo. Hit 4 pages.
    On second thought , it's taken me 4 pages to move back up to 25NL? I retract the Woohoo

    Played in the FTR300 and finished 25th.
    AK(AI pf)<99
    villian hit quad 9s

    I usually run good in my cash games while playing the FTR300. Yesterday was no exception. In the last few days I was getting cold cards and never hitting sets, oesd's, or FD's so the BR was down about 3.5 BIs.

    First hand in cash game last night my AA got busted by 97o. Almost tilted and quit but remained calm. By the end of the night I was up 4BIs. Hit many sets, flushes, and str8s. BR is at about $300 again.

    I've also been trying to play more hands which hasn't gone so well. If I turn off my stats on HEM (and leave others) I tend to run at about 17/13 and never really get into difficult situations.

    When I try to play more hands I run about 20/16 but I get in difficult spots and tend to lose more pots such as QJ<AJ,QQ,KK on a J83 board when villian is a calling station. I want to play as a 20/17/2 but I lose alot of hands playing this way. As a 17/13/3 I am more confortable and relaxed and have more fun.

    I've been stealing more which is upping my vpip and pfr but I have a tendency to get into trouble when I hit the flop with TPWK.

    I have been reading about value betting more lately and I think I'm understanding it more now. Before I would bet to get villian to fold even when I should be value betting. Still working on that.
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  2. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquach991
    Woohoo. Hit 4 pages.
    On second thought , it's taken me 4 pages to move back up to 25NL? I retract the Woohoo

    Played in the FTR300 and finished 25th.
    AK(AI pf)<99
    villian hit quad 9s

    I usually run good in my cash games while playing the FTR300. Yesterday was no exception. In the last few days I was getting cold cards and never hitting sets, oesd's, or FD's so the BR was down about 3.5 BIs.

    First hand in cash game last night my AA got busted by 97o. Almost tilted and quit but remained calm. By the end of the night I was up 4BIs. Hit many sets, flushes, and str8s. BR is at about $300 again.

    I've also been trying to play more hands which hasn't gone so well. If I turn off my stats on HEM (and leave others) I tend to run at about 17/13 and never really get into difficult situations.

    When I try to play more hands I run about 20/16 but I get in difficult spots and tend to lose more pots such as QJ<AJ,QQ,KK on a J83 board when villian is a calling station. I want to play as a 20/17/2 but I lose alot of hands playing this way. As a 17/13/3 I am more confortable and relaxed and have more fun.

    I've been stealing more which is upping my vpip and pfr but I have a tendency to get into trouble when I hit the flop with TPWK.

    I have been reading about value betting more lately and I think I'm understanding it more now. Before I would bet to get villian to fold even when I should be value betting. Still working on that.
    It sounds like, and looks like, things have improved a ton. Nicely done.

    What you describe above is something I'm working on too right now. With position it's easier to control the pot when we've got the marginal decisions you describe above. Pot control and bet/fold are our friends in these spots. The more times we put ourselves in these situations, the better we'll get at playing them. I'm telling myself this too btw. Hopefully I'll see you at the tables.
  3. #153
    July stats:

    My name is Sasquach and I'm a nit.

    AI-EV for 5NL and 10NL

    10NL starts at hand 11k



    Position stats for 5NL and 10NL combined.

    I'm such a nit




    Position stats for 10NL only



    Overall stats for 5NL and 10NL

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  4. #154
    Played in a home game Saturday night. Not a big money game.

    $10 BI with 11 players and a 50/30/20 payout.

    I was heads up with the host so we split as it was -EV to continue as the cash game that starts after you're put out of the tourney was moving lots of money. I heard one guy reload at least 3 times.

    Cash game has a $5 BI and you can't reload until you have less than $1 in chips. It's actually a 10NL game (0.05/0.10 blinds) with a $5 BI. I've never asked why. First time I've been in 2 months. Gonna have to go more often. Fun as hell.
    I left after losing one BI as it was late.
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  5. #155
    You need to find a $20, $50, or $100 home game Yeah, I have a weekly game that is $20 buy-in, but $0.25/$0.50 blinds. It's irritating to me. Where do you live?
    - Jason

  6. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Jason
    You need to find a $20, $50, or $100 home game Yeah, I have a weekly game that is $20 buy-in, but $0.25/$0.50 blinds. It's irritating to me. Where do you live?
    North Alabama
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  7. #157
    Hand 1

    villian was 27/22/3.6 over 170
    3bet alot. Got passive on this hand.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (SB) ($18.35)
    BB ($10)
    UTG ($13)
    MP ($4.40)
    Button ($16.65)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with K, A
    UTG bets $0.40, 1 fold, Button calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.35, 1 fold

    Flop: ($1.30) K, 4, Q (3 players)
    Hero checks, UTG bets $0.70, Button calls $0.70, Hero calls $0.70

    Turn: ($3.40) 2 (3 players)
    Hero checks, UTG checks, Button bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, UTG calls $1.50, 1 fold

    River: ($6.90) A (2 players)
    Hero bets $3, UTG raises to $10.40 (All-In), Hero calls $7.40

    Total pot: $27.70 | Rake: $1.35

    Results below:
    Hero had K, A (two pair, Aces and Kings).
    UTG had A, A (three of a kind, Aces).
    Outcome: UTG won $26.35


    Hand 2
    59/24/0.9 over about 20 hands

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (UTG) ($12.65)
    MP ($10)
    Button ($3.50)
    SB ($10)
    BB ($11)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, A
    Hero bets $0.40, 2 folds, SB calls $0.35, BB raises to $0.90, Hero calls $0.50, SB calls $0.50

    Flop: ($2.70) A, 10, K (3 players)
    SB checks, BB bets $1, Hero raises to $2.50, 1 fold, BB raises to $10.10 (All-In), Hero calls $7.60

    Turn: ($22.90) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($22.90) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Total pot: $22.90 | Rake: $1.10

    Results below:
    BB had A, A (full house, Aces over tens).
    Hero had K, A (two pair, Aces and Kings).
    Outcome: BB won $21.80


    Hand 3

    Same villian as above in hand 2

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (Button) ($10.30)
    SB ($10.05)
    BB ($5.05)
    UTG ($4)
    MP ($11.10)
    CO ($19.95)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J
    1 fold, MP bets $0.30, CO raises to $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 2 folds, MP calls $0.20

    Flop: ($1.65) 6, 10, 4 (3 players)
    MP checks, CO bets $1, Hero calls $1, 1 fold

    Turn: ($3.65) 5 (2 players)
    CO checks, Hero bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50

    River: ($6.65) J (2 players)
    CO checks, Hero bets $7.30 (All-In), CO calls $7.30

    Total pot: $21.25 | Rake: $1

    Results below:
    Hero had J, J (three of a kind, Jacks).
    CO had Q, Q (one pair, Queens).
    Outcome: Hero won $20.25
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  8. #158
    Those hands look fine to me. Do you take player notes? Those might be a good complement with stats.
    - Jason

  9. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by Jason
    Those hands look fine to me. Do you take player notes? Those might be a good complement with stats.
    Hand 1- The only note I had was that he 3bet alot. This was about his 5th hand at the table. Stats and note were from before. He pushed a short stack with AA on his first or second hand. The turn check confused me. I checked as I thought he would bet. I figured he would try to push out the flush draw if he had Kx or AA.

    In hands 2 and 3 villian had only played 17 hands so no notes. I almost tilted after hand 2. My top 2 had lost twice in about 15 minutes to a set. I sat out for a couple of hands and came back and within a few hands I got Hand 3.
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  10. #160
    Those hands look pretty standard to me. I get the feeling you're posting them more for therapeutic reasons than to learn from poker, which I guess is fine if it helps you. Against very loose and aggressive villains, you're probably going to lose your stack 6 max with AK when you get an ace or a king and they have pocket aces. I doubt many players would fault you for that. These types of hands happen to everyone. I'm pretty good at controlling my emotions, but I was card dead last night for a while, got AT and the flop came 3Q8. I planned to get my stack in and villain was more than willing to accommodate. The turn came 3 and the river came Q and villain had KQ. I was pretty ticked off being 97% to win on the flop and couldn't remember the last time I got a nut flush period, let alone flop one. But, that's poker. I wouldn't post that hand because there's not really much to learn from it.

    I'd say try to objectively look for a mix of hands you won and lost that have some tough or interesting spots. That last hand you won doesn't really seem all that interesting either, except I'd maybe wonder if you put him on an over pair or were just hoping to get called. If the river had been a deuce instead of a Jack and villain still checked, what would you have done?
    - Jason

  11. #161
    Thanks Jason.
    Two reasons:
    1. Therapeutic reasons
    2. To remind myself that if I keep my cool and just play I can still play well
    I just realized that these are the same

    I had been running cold forever last night when these hands came along. They are in order within about a 15 minute timespan(not including the un-tilt time).

    First one kinda tilted me.
    Second one did tilt me.

    I sat out after Hand 2 to untilt. I got up and wasted time for about 5 minutes then came back.

    Hand 3 was against the same villian as Hand 2. By remaining calm and just playing, I was able to completely recover my lost stack from this villian.

    I was reading some of my old posts and I found this from Spenda

    "..point is you need to find a game that matches your personal style. If someone likes to run 16/10 they shouldn't be playing 5/6-max, they should be playing FR. If they don't like getting in marginal situations against wide ranges, that's a FR player. If someone likes to mix things up, 3bet light, and get into battles, 6max/HU might be the game for them. Find a game where your style makes you the most money."

    According to this, I have more of a FR style of playing than 6 max style as I run about 17/13. I have played only played 6max in cash games for the most part. I may have 15 hands at FR. I may play FR tonight and see how it goes. I know M2M switched from 6max to FR.
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  12. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by Jason
    If the river had been a deuce instead of a Jack and villain still checked, what would you have done?
    I would have checked. Between the min 3bet and the called turn bet, I figured he had an overpair and there's no way he was folding to any river bet.
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  13. #163
    It's a love hate relationship. Sometimes I play nit ring, other times I play 6max. 6max is probably better for me though because I seem to like getting into pissing wars with bad regs.

    I think my true game is LHE but I'm too chicken to dig in and discover that :/

    Anyway good luck playing full ring for a change. Remember to keep it tight in early position.
  14. #164
    Thanks M2m.
    If I suck, I'll just blame you... and Spenda
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  15. #165
    Sasquatch, you live in bamaland? Only a coupla hours from here.

    About full nit, you'll do well I think. Nit it up in EP/MP, open it up HJ, CO and BTN. I think 6m teaches you TONS about how to play FR, especially postflop. I'm playing a lot more FR these days as I try to stabilize my poker income, and there are quite a few feesh at the FR tables right now, and many exploitable TAGG-regs. Stay aggressive, but remember to tighten your postflop ranges since everyone's nitty.

    Good luck!!
  16. #166
    Opened 4 tables at FR and was bored outta my head. I started opening too many hands OOP (small pp, unsuited broadways, and Axs) when limped to and getting into difficult situations. (KQo<AQ on Q49r board against a 59/23/3) Add in a little FPS and before I knew it I was down 1.5 BIs without going AI on any hands and I didn't realize it until later. At 6max I can keep up with it better.

    I think I lost track because of the hands where you get 3-4 limpers and you raise in late position to 6-7bb and then make a cbet. After several hands like this and reloading it can add up.

    So I sat out and thought about it some. To keep from playing too many hands outta boredom I added another table. Still was bored so I added another for a total of 6 (This bothered me some as I had $60 in play at one time). Play was still slower than 4 tabling 6 max but it seemed to be a good balance.

    My stacks started rising slowly and I should have quit as I was right at my stop loss but then AKs<Q2o and KK<AA so I had to stop for the night. Overall I was down 3 BIs which is over my stop loss for one day. Cost me 1.5 BIs to find a comfort zone and another 1.5 BIs on bad beats so I blew BRM for the day. This really bugged me.

    What's a good table in-game vpip for FR for table selection? In 6max I usually leave when the table vpip is <25.

    I may play 2NL FR tonight just to get more confortable with it and because I busted BRM for the day. Once I got comfortable I actually enjoyed it.
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  17. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquach991
    Opened 4 tables at FR and was bored outta my head. I started opening too many hands OOP (small pp, unsuited broadways, and Axs) when limped to and getting into difficult situations. (KQo<AQ on Q49r board against a 59/23/3) Add in a little FPS and before I knew it I was down 1.5 BIs without going AI on any hands and I didn't realize it until later. At 6max I can keep up with it better.
    At FR you can play almost twice as many tables as 6m. I think it's important to get ENOUGH FR tables open that you're not tempted to play loose. But you still have to have enough time for every decision when there's action on half your tables at once.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquach991
    I think I lost track because of the hands where you get 3-4 limpers and you raise in late position to 6-7bb and then make a cbet. After several hands like this and reloading it can add up.
    It's just a game feel thing - you'll get used to it with some FR experience.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquach991
    So I sat out and thought about it some. To keep from playing too many hands outta boredom I added another table. Still was bored so I added another for a total of 6 (This bothered me some as I had $60 in play at one time). Play was still slower than 4 tabling 6 max but it seemed to be a good balance.
    I'd go for 7 if 4 6m is standard. Can't worry about the bankroll, though. If you're not rolled for it, move down a level to learn FR till your comfortable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquach991
    My stacks started rising slowly and I should have quit as I was right at my stop loss but then AKs<Q2o and KK<AA so I had to stop for the night. Overall I was down 3 BIs which is over my stop loss for one day. Cost me 1.5 BIs to find a comfort zone and another 1.5 BIs on bad beats so I blew BRM for the day. This really bugged me.
    Variance happens - glad you're upset about BRM, though, that's good poker discipline starting to happen. I don't care so much about what the specifics are for someone's BRM, just that they rigidly follow whatever guidelines they thoughtfully set up for themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquach991
    What's a good table in-game vpip for FR for table selection? In 6max I usually leave when the table vpip is <25.
    LoL. For full nit, anything north of 20 is awesome. I'll play 18's some times when there's only a few games running. Major nit fest at 50nl, dunno about 10nl since I haven't played 10nl FR in ages. I was almost exclusively 6m at 10nl a year ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquach991
    I may play 2NL FR tonight just to get more comfortable with it and because I busted BRM for the day. Once I got comfortable I actually enjoyed it.
    5nl FR?

    Good luck, it takes a few hands to learn the game. Sorry you started with a downswing, but stick with it and you'll get better.
  18. #168
    Dropped down to 5NL and opened 6 tables. Much more comfortable than the first day. I was even up a couple of 5NL BI's after I finished. Seems to be much less swongy than 6 max. I guess because you're nut camping.
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  19. #169
    Everyone is different, but I play 4 tables NL full ring and rarely feel bored, although I think I may be ready to step up to 5 tables once I get my new monitor because I've gotten rather proficient with 4 I think. I also don't feel like I nut peddle. I try to get reads and play premium hands and trash if the situation calls for it. If I was just clicking buttons nut peddling, then yes, 4 tables would get boring quickly and I could probably play 10 to 12 tables, but as I've advocated many times in many threads, paying attention, taking notes, getting reads, and playing real poker is ESSENTIAL. I think my stats are 24/18, which I would classify as semi-tight although some may consider it semi-laggy or laggy.
    - Jason

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    I figured it was you....I was sitting to your right at one of the 5nl tables last night....
    So you're trying to get into FR?
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    About VPIP for the table, I try to join FR tables w/ VPIP > 30. After you join and play for a while, it WILL go down b/c you raise your good hands properly, and the passives don't like to call so less people will join you postflop.
    Its best to try and get to a table where there is a maniac of course, as sometimes even a VPIP<30 can be fun if there's a guy who wont fold his 2nd pair.

    The table I was at with you last night was perfect...there was a guy to your left a seat or two who was donating to all w/ a 45 VPIP...
    I believe I doubled through him.....
    Just keep being patient, and play enough tables to keep you occupied....
  22. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by Vinland
    I figured it was you....I was sitting to your right at one of the 5nl tables last night....
    So you're trying to get into FR?
    SN?
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  24. #174
    I may play some tonight but tomorrow I'm going to do something that I haven't done in quite a few years and I'm really looking forward to it.

    Bass fishing in a tournament...at night...for smallmouth bass...

    I stopped fishing when my son was small as he always had something else for me to do on Saturdays (baseball, soccer, hockey, etc.) but now he'd rather hang out with his friends so I can do other activities.
    Woohoo. Can't wait.

    Hell, I may even take up golf again.
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  25. #175
    Tournament
    Lost a biggun 20 minutes into the tournament. Caught a few but only one was a keeper. Limit on largemouth is 12" and limit on smallmouth is 14". Caught all smallmouth but only one was a keeper at 15". We got spanked in the tourney but I had a helluva time.

    Poker
    Finnaly got comfy at FR and 6 tables. I've recovered the 3 BIs I lost after starting and I'm up a little. FR is not near as swongy as 6max. I guess because you play nittier. So far a good day is up 1.7 BIs and a bad day is up 0.4 BIs (not counting the - 3BI day)

    I may switch between 6m and FR just for a change.
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  26. #176
    After recovering my 3BIs at FR I proceeded to lose 1.5 BIs again. Swongy as hell this month. I decided to play 6max again for a few days.

    Since there aren't as many games at FR I joined waiting list for games with good stats and waited patiently. I never did this at 6max as there are always games available with decent stats.

    So for the last couple of days I played 6m and actually joined the waiting list for the really good tables. The first day I was up 3 BIs and the second I was up 2 BIs, temporarily. But on the second day I got coolered a couple of times towards the end of the session (one was AA<23s by a 68/23/2) and was down 0.5 BIs. I started off playing 3 tables at 6 m and as usual, I was playing with crap hands so I added another

    I think played FR has helped my 6m game. I noticed alot more players pushing at FR. It's also strange at FR when you open UTG with AA and get 7 callers. WTF? Villians at FR are nittier but not by much. Maybe it's the tables I'm selecting. I also need to stop playing marginal hands in EP. I'm getting in trouble in the HJ with 66-99 when limped to.

    I can't decide which I like best so I'll just mix it up some. It's like having to chose between Loni Anderson and Lynda Carter (ok so I'm old). Kinda depends on your mood at the time.
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  27. #177
    Went through a pretty bad downswing at 10NL, both at FR and 6m. Down almost 9 BIs for the month at 10NL. Got coolered and rivered several times.

    BR was at $200.

    After that I decided to drop down to 5NL-6m today to get my confidence back up. Up a little over 7 BIs at 5NL today so BR now is at $237.

    I think I'll stay at 5NL for a little while. BRM at 10NL was forcing me to quit for the day after I lost one BI. Still deciding when I'll move back up to 10NL.
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  28. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquach991
    Went through a pretty bad downswing at 10NL, both at FR and 6m. Down almost 9 BIs for the month at 10NL. Got coolered and rivered several times.

    BR was at $200.

    After that I decided to drop down to 5NL-6m today to get my confidence back up. Up a little over 7 BIs at 5NL today so BR now is at $237.

    I think I'll stay at 5NL for a little while. BRM at 10NL was forcing me to quit for the day after I lost one BI. Still deciding when I'll move back up to 10NL.
    Stay strong. Play 5nl until you feel like you're playing really well and have the confidence, then get back in there and kick ass at 10nl. Sometimes, the move up is more in your head and about confidence than it is about skill.

    Anyway, glglgl.
  29. #179
    Going ok at 5NL. Up 3 BIs a few days ago, then lost some the next day.

    Yesterday I started off ok depending on how you look at. Got in some good pots with good hands and ended up splitting. I had 6 hands last night that I split. I was up about 3 BIs when I got coolered and was back down to even. No biggie. I took a break and came back ready. I recoved it all back except $0.01. Couldn't do that if I tried. I'm trying to concentrate more on ranges lately and it seems to be helping. I'm actually saying out loud what I think villian has and I'm actually right now and then, unlike before.

    Taking a break from poker starting Saturday. I was fortunate enough to get invited to KSC for the shuttle launch on Tuesday. Never seen a launch before so I'm looking forward to it.
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  30. #180
    This month I've been on FTR for one year. I know, I should be at least at 50NL by now but you have to consider how much of a newb I was a year ago. I also withdrew most of my roll at one time after about a 20BI downswing a few months ago. I never re-deposited as it would only help me to build it back up.

    I was going to post everything I have learned in the last year but I don't have the time to do that so I'll just say this:
    About a year ago, here's everything I knew about poker.

    1. hand rankings

    That's it!!!

    I know a little more now and I consider myself a winning player only because I haven't completely blown my BR to hell due to mostly good BRM.

    For the next year, I'm going to do some things I haven't done thus far:

    1. Read a poker book (I didn't see the use as there's so much on FTR that I didn't know)

    2. Sweat session(s) if I can get some sweaters. My brother in law was in town this past weekend and he wanted to watch me 4 table 6max. While I was playing, I was telling him why I was doing everything I was doing and what range I put villians on. It's usually distracting to have someone watch but by the end of the session (about 1.5 hours) I was up a couple of BIs.

    3. Participate in the IRC. I'm usually on IRC when I play but all I do is read what othere write. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I don't understand alot of what is said in IRC. Most of the poker stuff I understand but everything else may as well be Latin.

    4. Post more hands on IRC

    5. Study at least half as much as I play. This has been hard to do as I only have a couple of hours a day to play/study but I do play almost every day. What I may do is study one day and then play the next.

    6. Move up to at least 25NL in the next few months. If I don't? meh

    7. Try to play more hands. #5 may make this more difficult.

    8. Make it a point to put villians on a range. I've been doing this more and more lately.

    9. Make another video of my play with audio this time.

    10. Get better at golf. I haven't played for 20 years and I dug my clubs out of the garage yesterday and went to the driving range and hit about 200 balls (I can prove it as I have several blisters). All the guys I play home games with play so I thought why not. I'm not as bad as I thought but still not pretty. And what's up with woods the size of grapefruit now? You need a tee the size of a pencil now? I'll spend some more time figuring out ranges (pun intended) before I actualy playing but by then it won't be as embarrassing when I hit that worm burner or two.

    I'm back at 10NL and the BR is at about $330. August wasnt so good but Sept is looking up. I also decided that I don't like FR. If it's more swongy at 6m then so be it.

    BTW, the shuttle launch I went to was amazing.
    We were 3 miles from the pad near the VAB

    Here's a portion of it I put on Youtube. Kinda wobbly video but hard to hold the camera steady while zoomed.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng16oXDg6n0
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  31. #181
    My last few days

    KK<JJ set
    AKs<A7o
    QQ<AA
    KK set<AA set
    Q hi flush <K hi flush



    At least I'm still up for the month
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  32. #182
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquach991
    At least I'm still up for the month
    running bad and still beating the stake = winning player at that stake. Nice work. I'll be playing a FR session sweat thing during the next few days. I'll check if you're in IRC.

    also
    http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...nt-t87577.html
  33. #183
    This was not a running bad post. I played horribad on 3 out of 5 of these. This was a reminder.

    KK<JJ set
    Calling station did what calling stations do. I bet my pp on every street and villian called. He hit his set on the river and pushed with a big stack(200 bb deep) and dumbass me (who was 180 bb deep) called when his AF was 1.2 and I knew he had a set or 2 pair

    AKs<A7o
    I need to stop calling AI without a reason when passive players push and I have TPTK


    QQ<AA
    22/18/2.2
    I 3bet him when he has a fold to 3bet of 75% and he 4 bets me then the flop is 259r and I call a push because I'm a dumbass

    Have two bad beats and three "Play Like Shit" hands with big stacks in a few days and watch the other 7k hands for the month get pissed away because you deserve it.

    Thanks daven
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  34. #184
    Had a much better game last night with the exception of my first hand of the night.
    AA<QQ>TT in 3-way AI preflop all with full stacks. That would have been a helluva way to start the night if I could have taken that one down.

    I need to find the fold button again. I caught myself about to go AI with TP again. Don't know why I started doing that shit all of a sudden.

    Things improved after that.

    Hand 1

    Villian was a total maniac and I had been waiting forever to get something. He had 3bet of almost 30%. I nearly shit when he flipped his cards then nearly shit again after the turn. Range was waaay off on this one.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP ($17.90)
    Button ($5.70)
    Hero (SB) ($10.55)
    BB ($18.70)
    UTG ($10.60)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A
    1 fold, MP calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, MP raises to $0.70, Hero raises to $2.30, MP calls $1.60

    Flop: ($4.70) K, 7, 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $2, MP raises to $15.60 (All-In), Hero calls $6.25 (All-In)

    Turn: ($21.20) A (2 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($21.20) 10 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $21.20 | Rake: $1.05

    Results below:
    Hero had A, A (full house, Aces over sevens).
    MP had K, K (full house, Kings over sevens).
    Outcome: Hero won $20.15


    Hand 2

    Villian is another maniac who just reloaded losing TT to AA to a calling station. I think he was tilted. I just knew he would bet flop. What does he raise on the Turn and then fold on the River? Tx? I though about checking the River and letting him bet but I though he may shove and KJ, 44, TT was def in his range.

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    Hero (SB) ($12.15)
    BB ($15.80)
    UTG ($10)
    MP ($3.95)
    Button ($26.70)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, A
    UTG bets $0.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold

    Flop: ($0.70) 4, Q, A (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG checks

    Turn: ($0.70) 10 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.60, UTG raises to $1.95, Hero calls $1.35

    River: ($4.60) 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets $2, 1 fold

    Total pot: $4.60 | Rake: $0.20

    Results below:
    Hero didn't show Q, A (nothing).
    Outcome: Hero won $4.40



    I wasn't in this hand but I was amazed at how BB played this. He was 85/0/0.7 and I he limped everything. He took half my stack earlier playing this exact way when I hit 2 pair and he rivered an A for a set

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    BB ($5.80)
    Hero (UTG) ($19.25)
    Button ($17.55)
    SB ($10.45)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, 8
    2 folds, SB calls $0.05, BB checks

    Flop: ($0.20) 2, 6, 3 (2 players)
    SB checks, BB checks

    Turn: ($0.20) 6 (2 players)
    SB checks, BB checks

    River: ($0.20) 5 (2 players)
    SB bets $10.35 (All-In), BB calls $5.70 (All-In)

    Total pot: $11.60 | Rake: $0.55

    Results below:
    SB had A, A (two pair, Aces and sixes).
    BB had 4, 7 (straight, seven high).
    Outcome: BB won $11.05
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  35. #185
    I must learn to fold TP, I guess. I don't know why I started doing this. Still up for the month but only by a couple BIs though.


    Hand 1

    37/25/1.5 over 117
    40% fold to steal
    48% steal

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    UTG ($10.70)
    MP ($6.85)
    Hero (Button) ($10.05)
    SB ($11.85)
    BB ($10.15)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with A, 10
    2 folds, Hero bets $0.30, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold

    Flop: ($0.70) J, A, Q (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.50, SB raises to $1.40, Hero calls $0.90

    Turn: ($3.50) 7 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, SB raises to $6.10, Hero calls $3.60

    River: ($15.70) Q (2 players)
    SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

    Total pot: $19.70 | Rake: $0.90

    Results below:
    Hero mucked A, 10 (two pair, Aces and Queens).
    SB had K, 10 (straight, Ace high).
    Outcome: SB won $18.80


    Hand 2

    13/8/5.3 over 263
    fold to 3bet 50%
    spew

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    Button ($10.10)
    Hero (SB) ($10.05)
    BB ($12.80)
    UTG ($10)
    MP ($6.90)
    CO ($22.75)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q
    3 folds, Button bets $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, 1 fold, Button calls $0.60

    Flop: ($1.90) 4, 10, 8 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.90, Button raises to $2, Hero calls $1.10

    Turn: ($5.90) 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button checks

    River: ($5.90) 10 (2 players)
    Hero bets $2.50, Button raises to $5.50, Hero calls $3

    Total pot: $16.90 | Rake: $0.80

    Results below:
    Button had J, 10 (three of a kind, tens).
    Hero mucked Q, Q (two pair, Queens and tens).
    Outcome: Button won $16.10


    Hand 3

    52/7/1.4 over 43
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    CO ($8.35)
    Button ($13.40)
    SB ($6.05)
    Hero (BB) ($10.10)
    UTG ($4.40)
    MP ($10)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K, K
    UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, Button calls $0.10, SB bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.30, 2 folds, SB calls $0.90

    Flop: ($2.80) 2, 3, 4 (2 players)
    SB bets $4.75 (All-In), Hero calls $4.75

    Turn: ($12.30) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($12.30) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Total pot: $12.30 | Rake: $0.60

    Results below:
    SB had Q, A (flush, Ace high).
    Hero had K, K (one pair, Kings).
    Outcome: SB won $11.70


    Hand 4

    68/29/3 over 40

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    BB ($4.15)
    Hero (UTG) ($13)
    MP ($6)
    Button ($11.65)
    SB ($6.55)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, K
    Hero bets $0.50, MP (poster) calls $0.40, 1 fold, SB calls $0.45, BB calls $0.40

    Flop: ($2) 3, Q, J (4 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, MP raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.50

    Turn: ($8) 4 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $2.50 (All-In), Hero calls $2.50

    River: ($13) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Total pot: $13 | Rake: $0.60

    Results below:
    Hero had K, K (one pair, Kings).
    MP had Q, 4 (two pair, Queens and fours).
    Outcome: MP won $12.40


    Hand 5


    34/12/1.9 over 151

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    BB ($10)
    Hero (UTG) ($9.85)
    MP ($12.10)
    Button ($11.15)
    SB ($8.70)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A
    Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, Button calls $0.40, 2 folds

    Flop: ($0.95) 4, 4, 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button checks

    Turn: ($0.95) 6 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.80, Button raises to $1.60, Hero calls $0.80

    River: ($4.15) 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button bets $2, Hero calls $2

    Total pot: $8.15 | Rake: $0.35

    Results below:
    Button had 2, 5 (straight, six high).
    Hero mucked A, A (two pair, Aces and fours).
    Outcome: Button won $7.80



    Hand 5

    78/11/1.4 over 36

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    CO ($10.20)
    Button ($13.15)
    Hero (SB) ($9.90)
    BB ($10)
    UTG ($10.05)
    MP ($13.10)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 10, 10
    2 folds, CO bets $0.30, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold

    Flop: ($0.70) 9, 6, 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

    Turn: ($1.90) J (2 players)
    Hero bets $1.30, CO calls $1.30

    River: ($4.50) Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

    Total pot: $6.10 | Rake: $0.25

    Results below:
    Hero mucked 10, 10 (one pair, tens).
    CO had 10, J (one pair, Jacks).
    Outcome: CO won $5.85



    Hand 6

    This one was just too funny to tilt

    villian was 57/1/1

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    Button ($13.45)
    SB ($11.10)
    Hero (BB) ($10.90)
    UTG ($5.65)
    MP ($10)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, Q
    3 folds, SB calls $0.05, Hero checks

    Flop: ($0.20) 6, Q, 6 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.20, SB calls $0.20

    Turn: ($0.60) 6 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.50, SB calls $0.50

    River: ($1.60) 10 (2 players)
    SB bets $1.60, Hero calls $1.60

    Total pot: $4.80 | Rake: $0.20

    Results below:
    SB had 2, 6 (four of a kind, sixes).
    Hero mucked 7, Q (full house, sixes over Queens).
    Outcome: SB won $4.60
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  36. #186
    I posted these in the bc and I'm posting them here for record.

    After looking at them again I think I'm getting gun shy as my TPTK hands keep getting crushed and my other made hands are doing likewise. For the last few sessions I am having to play catch up as I'm getting coolered in the first 30 minutes of play with good hands and losing on the river.


    Hand 1
    villian is typical calling station 74/1/1. Calls down just about ATC. Will never fold a pair. I did not think villian had flush but the river 3 scared me some as he has alot of 34,35,36 hands.

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    MP ($10.95)
    CO ($13.50)
    Button ($10)
    SB ($10.05)
    Hero (BB) ($12.65)
    UTG ($3)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 8
    UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, CO calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero checks

    Flop: ($0.35) 6, 3, 4 (3 players)
    Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks

    Turn: ($0.35) 5 (3 players)
    Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, CO calls $0.40

    River: ($1.15) 3 (2 players) Hero ?


    Hand 2

    villian is 14/8/0.7 and on the nitty side. Never 3bets. Rarely raises. I think AA,AK,KK,KQ, JJ, some suited broadways are definitely in his range. Turn?

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    Button ($11.45)
    SB ($9.50)
    Hero (BB) ($10)
    UTG ($4.45)
    MP ($11.05)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, Q
    2 folds, Button bets $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30

    Flop: ($0.85) Q, 4, J (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

    Turn: ($2.05) K (2 players)
    Hero ???

    Hand 3

    villian was 78/60/4. I had folded several marginal hands to this villian and also folded KK on A high board a few hands earlier. I know I totally screwed this on up. I expected villian to bet on flop. Is he slowplaying flush? Bluffing flush?

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    CO ($12.20)
    Button ($13.30)
    Hero (SB) ($11.85)
    BB ($13.35)
    UTG ($10)
    MP ($25.75)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A
    1 fold, MP calls $0.10, 1 fold, Button calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.40, MP calls $0.40, Button calls $0.40

    Flop: ($2) 10, K, 6 (4 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, Button checks

    Turn: ($2) Q (4 players)
    Hero bets $1, 1 fold, MP raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero ?

    Hand 4

    Another cs. 65/2/1.2 over only 20 or so.

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    Hero (UTG) ($9.85)
    MP ($10)
    CO ($20.75)
    Button ($10)
    SB ($14.30)
    BB ($3.15)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, K
    Hero bets $0.40, 4 folds, BB calls $0.30

    Flop: ($0.85) A, 6, 5 (2 players)
    BB bets $0.30, Hero raises to $0.80, BB calls $0.50

    Turn: ($2.45) 3 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero ??
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  37. #187
    Dude just fucking bet I swear to god WTF is this shit. Quit dicking around and put the money in. C/r is cool in the QQ hand but just BET ffs. You have clear value hands in all these pots Sas.
    Ich grolle nicht...
  38. #188
    Quote Originally Posted by Illfavor
    Dude just fucking bet I swear to god WTF is this shit. Quit dicking around and put the money in. C/r is cool in the QQ hand but just BET ffs. You have clear value hands in all these pots Sas.
    Thanks. I did
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  39. #189
    Sorry, I was in a bad mood this morning.
    Ich grolle nicht...
  40. #190
    I bet and still got reamed by spenda and iopc

    http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ds-t89145.html
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  41. #191
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  42. #192
    I know why you're so weak tight.

    The answer may hurt, though not intended to. Perhaps it will inspire you to improve.
  43. #193
    Quote Originally Posted by Micro2Macro
    I know why you're so weak tight.

    The answer may hurt, though not intended to. Perhaps it will inspire you to improve.
    Are you going to tell me?

    Is it a money scared thing?
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  44. #194
    No it's not a scared money thing.

    You just suck really bad at hand reading/thinking about ranges. Thus failing to accurately take into account the relative strength of your holding vs your opponents possible holdnigs.

    In other words, it's just 'easier' to be tight.
  45. #195
    Yesterday I watched a few grinderschool vids. One was spenda's where he plays with a vpip of almost 100%. I saw how many pots he took down just by being aggressive in correct spots. I also watched the first lecture where he talks about ranges and hero calls. I NEVER make hero calls because I think I'm always beat.

    Last night I decided to be more agressive and make a few hero calls.

    I usually play 16/14/2 in 6max. 3% 3bet and 20% steal

    Last night I played as a 19/16/3 5.7% 3bet and 30% steal.

    Had a couple of coolers and made 2 dumbass calls but ended up over 2 BIs.

    I think this is related to m2m's comment...or not
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  46. #196
    Quote Originally Posted by Micro2Macro
    No it's not a scared money thing.

    You just suck really bad at hand reading/thinking about ranges. Thus failing to accurately take into account the relative strength of your holding vs your opponents possible holdnigs.

    In other words, it's just 'easier' to be tight.
    I agree completely. The range I usually put villian on is the range that beats me so I fold when villian bets.

    One reason I believe I do this is because I never bet for information. I know spenda hates this term. I also did this alot last night and it helped me narrow the ranges and I also took down a few pots doing this. This also helped in the hero calls.

    I also went through HEM showing known hole cards just to see what kind of crap that villians play with. I was very surprised.


    I'll be playing in a home game tonight so I'm really looking forward to that. Haven't played in a month or so.

    Golf Update:
    I refused to play until I had spent some time at the range/putting green/chipping green.
    I hit over 600 range balls and probably the same chipping and putting. I played 9 holes yesterday afternoon. I intended to play alone but some guy at the course asked me to play with him so I did. He told me he plays 3 or four times a week so I thought I would get my ass spanked. He sucked as much as I did.

    My best was putting. Worst was driving. I try to hit it too hard. I think I hit it too hard because I expect myself to be able to easily hit 250+ yard drives because of my size. I also decided to walk instead of ride and it was humid as hell (Alabama). I played about as bad as I expected but still had fun. Only tilted a couple of times.

    Overall my first two shot sucked and everything after that was ok. Now I know what to practice more at the range.
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  47. #197
    The other day I watched a grinderschool video where spenda plays at 100 vpip. I thought this may help me with my game to try it.

    So I dropped down to 5NL, opened one table, and played as a 94/65/6 for about 45 minutes. My cbet % was at 88. My steal % was 75. I wanted to make it 100 vpip but a didn't raise in the bb a few times so it dropped a bit.

    There were about 3 players with vpip > 40 and the rest were <25. During the entire session only one player adjusted to my play. I don't think the other players even realized I was doing this. This was an eye opening experience and I was very surprised at some of the trash people play with. This also forced me to think about ranges.

    I reloaded once when my stack dropped to $4.50 but other than that I was ok. Once I got up to about $15 I lost a hand to the player who adjusted and dropped down to $10. By the end of the session I was at about $17.

    I played in a home game and was first out of the tourney. Broke even in the cash game but I played much looser than I normally do at these games.

    Got home and opened up 4 tables of 10NL. I decided I was going to play a bit looser and much more aggressive. Over about 600 hands I was a 25/21/4 with a 3bet % of 7. I usually play a nitty 16/13/2 at 6 max. At the end of the session I was up a little over 3 BIs.
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  48. #198
    These types of hands are killing me

    Hand 1

    villian is 40/20/15 over 35 hands


    villian got caught bluffing several times. A few hands before he had 200 bb and bluffed with air.

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    CO ($3.30)
    Button ($12.25)
    SB ($3)
    BB ($22.75)
    UTG ($13.60)
    Hero (MP) ($19.90)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with A, K
    UTG calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.50, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.40

    Flop: ($1.25) 8, 6, K (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $0.90, UTG calls $0.90

    Turn: ($3.05) 9 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $2, UTG raises to $5, Hero calls $3

    River: ($13.05) Q (2 players)
    UTG bets $7.20 (All-In), Hero ???

    Hand 2

    villian was 28/24/2.7 over 25 no reads to speak of

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    Hero (BB) ($10.10)
    UTG ($3.85)
    MP ($9.65)
    Button ($11.35)
    SB ($2.80)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 7
    UTG calls $0.10, MP bets $0.40, 1 fold, SB calls $0.35, Hero calls $0.30, UTG calls $0.30

    Flop: ($1.60) 7, 9, 9 (4 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks

    Turn: ($1.60) 6 (4 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $1.20, 1 fold, MP calls $1.20, SB calls $1.20

    River: ($5.20) 5 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, MP raises to $8.05 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero ???


    Hand 3

    42/10/2.1 over 129
    only read I had was will bet draws to sd.

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    Button ($8.95)
    SB ($1.05)
    BB ($9.85)
    Hero (UTG) ($11.60)
    MP ($3.25)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8, 8
    Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, Button calls $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30

    Flop: ($1.25) 7, 8, 5 (3 players)
    BB bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.20, Button calls $1.20, BB calls $0.70

    Turn: ($4.85) 4 (3 players)
    BB bets $2, Hero calls $2, Button calls $2

    River: ($10.85) 10 (3 players)
    BB bets $4, Hero ???

    Hand 4

    21/16/3.3 over 24 so no reads

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    MP ($10.10)
    Button ($8.15)
    SB ($16.45)
    Hero (BB) ($17.65)
    UTG ($9.80)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 7
    1 fold, MP bets $0.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.20

    Flop: ($0.65) A, 8, 10 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP checks

    Turn: ($0.65) 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.40, MP calls $0.40

    River: ($1.45) A (2 players)
    Hero bets $1, MP raises to $3.50, Hero ???
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

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  49. #199
    • In hand 1, villain is 1/2 stacked and very loose and aggressive. Once you get an ace or a king, you are stacking off unless it's a super scary board like 1 liners to a flush or straight.
    • This is an auto-call. You've basically got the nuts. Only 97, 96, and 95 beat you and those are pretty unlikely hands for anyone to have.
    • I might have folded the turn, but definitely fold the river. Any 6 or 2 clubs has you beat and you have to ask yourself, what is he sticking around with? Don't get me wrong, with reads, you can make calls in these situations, but if you thought this was a call, I'd want to know what hands do you expect him to turn over that you can beat?
    • I probably stack off here because I put him on an ace and not pocket aces. The only hand that could reasonably show up that beats us I think is AT (6 combos) or possibly TT (3 combos) , and 88 (3 combos) - 12 total combos. There are more hands that show up that we can beat like AK (8 combos), AQ (8 combos), and AJ (8 combos) - 24 total combos.
    - Jason

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    your bet sizing on early streets is causing you problems

    hand 1 - bet turn a little harder. Fold to the turn raise or jam over. With state reads, I prefer jamming.

    hand 2 - that many players you can bet the flop> turn is fine, river bet bigger. You gotta call here cos he has a random 8 or trips more often than a better boat

    hand 3 - raise flop bigger, like 5x or even 6x, too many players, board is too drawy, someone is coming along for the ride. You should be happy to get it in on the flop if at all possible. Turn is fine as played. River is gross.

    hand 4 - river is a call. There could be an argument for jamming, but i don't buy into it.
  51. #201
    Edit: Oh goody. Now I'm at 5 pages and not even close.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason
    In hand 1, villain is 1/2 stacked and very loose and aggressive. Once you get an ace or a king, you are stacking off unless it's a super scary board like 1 liners to a flush or straight.
    Villian's not half stacked. He's 136 bb deep

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason
    This is an auto-call. You've basically got the nuts. Only 97, 96, and 95 beat you and those are pretty unlikely hands for anyone to have.
    And 99
    Should I have bet the flop?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason
    I might have folded the turn, but definitely fold the river. Any 6 or 2 clubs has you beat and you have to ask yourself, what is he sticking around with? Don't get me wrong, with reads, you can make calls in these situations, but if you thought this was a call, I'd want to know what hands do you expect him to turn over that you can beat?
    Good point. Problem I had was he called a raise on the flop and bet almost 1/2 pot on turn on an A high FD and then hit the river for his flush. If he had 6x it would not have tilted me so much. I did make some good notes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason
    I probably stack off here because I put him on an ace and not pocket aces. The only hand that could reasonably show up that beats us I think is AT (6 combos) or possibly TT (3 combos) , and 88 (3 combos) - 12 total combos. There are more hands that show up that we can beat like AK (8 combos), AQ (8 combos), and AJ (8 combos) - 24 total combos.[/list]
    I did think I was ahead on this one. You would think a 21/16/3.3 would bet AA. I also think he made the perfect value bet on the river but I don't know why he didn't raise river at all. If he pushed river should I call?
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

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  52. #202
    Quote Originally Posted by daven
    hand 1 - bet turn a little harder. Fold to the turn raise or jam over. With state reads, I prefer jamming.
    I like the jamming turn. Makes sense but I have been getting into trouble lately shoving TPTK hands.

    Quote Originally Posted by daven
    hand 2 - that many players you can bet the flop> turn is fine, river bet bigger. You gotta call here cos he has a random 8 or trips more often than a better boat
    I bet a little less than half pot hoping he would shove his 8x and I insta called.

    Quote Originally Posted by daven
    hand 3 -..River is gross.
    Beyond gross
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

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  53. #203
    More of the same. I'm going to drop down to 5nl for a while as I can't take this much longer.

    Not showing any winning hands because they are very few. Biggest one at $5. Lots of JJ+ hands with minimum wins.

    BR is at $220.
    I've played 26k hands this month and I am down 2.5 BIs.

    Made silver star so maybe I can get a bonus.

    Hand 1

    villian is 32/25/2 over 460
    3bets at about 30%
    always opens from the button
    will push with middle pair on flop
    fold to 3bet is 30%

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    UTG ($17.65)
    MP ($19.50)
    Hero (Button) ($11.35)
    SB ($35.90)
    BB ($3.55)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with K, K
    UTG bets $0.40, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.20, SB calls $1.15, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.80

    Flop: ($3.70) 3, 6, 9 (3 players)
    SB bets $3.40, UTG calls $3.40, Hero raises to $10.15 (All-In), 1 fold, UTG calls $6.75

    Turn: ($27.40) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($27.40) 4[img]


    Hnad 2

    18/12/1.4
    so many hand that beat me here. A bit of spew

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    SB ($18.85)
    BB ($5.90)
    Hero (UTG) ($10.20)
    MP ($36.05)
    CO ($16.35)
    Button ($12.20)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q
    Hero bets $0.40, 2 folds, Button calls $0.40, 2 folds

    Flop: ($0.95) 8, 10, 10 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.80, Button raises to $1.60, Hero calls $0.80

    Turn: ($4.15) 4 (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button checks

    River: ($4.15) 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets $2, Button raises to $10.20 (All-In), Hero calls $6.20 (All-In)

    Total pot: $20.55 | Rake: $1

    Hand 3

    villian is 38/5/1.7

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    SB ($13.60)
    BB ($38.10)
    UTG ($1.10)
    Hero (MP) ($9.85)
    CO ($6.10)
    Button ($6.15)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with Q, K
    1 fold, Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, Button calls $0.40, SB calls $0.35, BB calls $0.30

    Flop: ($1.60) K, 2, J (4 players)
    SB bets $0.10, BB calls $0.10, Hero raises to $1.30, Button calls $1.30, 2 folds

    Turn: ($4.40) 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets $2, Button calls $2

    River: ($8.40) 9 (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button checks

    Total pot: $8.40 | Rake: $0.40

    Hand 4

    I have a ton of hands like this one. I lost about 15 hands like this one from folding when I couldn;t hit anything.

    villian was 38/28/2

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    Hero (BB) ($12.85)
    UTG ($7.90)
    Button ($18.85)
    SB ($10.35)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K, A
    2 folds, SB bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, SB calls $0.80

    Flop: ($2.40) Q, 8, 9 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $1.40, SB calls $1.40

    Turn: ($5.20) 7 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    River: ($5.20) 5 (2 players)
    SB bets $2.55, Hero ???

    Total pot: $5.20 | Rake: $0.25

    Hand 5
    38/5/1.2

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    Button ($9.85)
    SB ($16.65)
    Hero (BB) ($15.30)
    UTG ($8.30)
    MP ($10.05)
    CO ($10.30)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, K
    2 folds, CO bets $0.40, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.30

    Flop: ($0.85) 10, 4, 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

    Turn: ($2.05) A (2 players)
    Hero bets $1.40, CO calls $1.40

    River: ($4.85) 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $2.50, Hero ???


    Hand 6

    villian is 55/16/2

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    UTG ($11.10)
    MP ($12.30)
    Hero (Button) ($11.70)
    SB ($11.75)
    BB ($2.45)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 2, 2
    UTG bets $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40, 2 folds

    Flop: ($0.95) 2, 6, 6 (2 players)
    UTG bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

    Turn: ($2.15) 6 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero checks

    River: ($2.15) 4 (2 players)
    UTG bets $1.10, Hero calls $1.10

    Total pot: $4.35 | Rake: $0.20
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

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  54. #204
    More of the same

    hand 7

    44/2/1.9

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    SB ($3.90)
    BB ($26.30)
    Hero (UTG) ($11.20)
    MP ($21.55)
    Button ($8)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, A
    Hero bets $0.40, 2 folds, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold

    Flop: ($0.90) K, 8, 6 (2 players)
    SB bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.60, SB calls $0.50

    Turn: ($2.10) 10 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    River: ($2.10) J (2 players)
    SB bets $1.70, Hero raises to $10.20 (All-In), SB calls $1.20 (All-In)

    Total pot: $7.90 | Rake: $0.35

    Hand 8

    50/0/5
    limps with everything including JJ+

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    UTG ($2.55)
    MP ($10.75)
    Hero (Button) ($10.55)
    SB ($5.65)
    BB ($10.30)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, J
    2 folds, Hero bets $0.30, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold

    Flop: ($0.70) 7, K, 9 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.40, SB calls $0.40

    Turn: ($1.50) J (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.80, SB raises to $1.60, Hero calls $0.80

    River: ($4.70) 2 (2 players)
    SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

    Total pot: $7.70 | Rake: $0.35

    Hand 9

    35/1/3
    another one that limps and only bets river if limped to.

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    UTG ($6.80)
    Hero (MP) ($10.50)
    CO ($16.50)
    Button ($8)
    SB ($13.95)
    BB ($13.80)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with A, K
    UTG calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.50, 2 folds, SB calls $0.45, BB calls $0.40, 1 fold

    Flop: ($1.60) 10, K, 10 (3 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.80, SB calls $0.80, 1 fold

    Turn: ($3.20) J (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    River: ($3.20) Q (2 players)
    SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

    Total pot: $7.20 | Rake: $0.35
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

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  55. #205
    looks like I was wrong. DOwn 4.5 BIs

    Heater , even, cooler, even, heater, even...

    Towards the end I could not hardly win a hand




    Stats for September
    looks like I need to always fold in SB and BB and I'm 3betting alot from SB and BB and stealing a helluva lot from SB.

    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

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    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  56. #206
    Hey man im no pro but. Looks like you have no confidence left. At the micros they are going to have something. Its okay to let go of hands like AK and QQ when you dont hit. That hand with the FH on flop 22266. Please raise the flop theres NO need to try and slowplay here. I think you should give people a little more credit for there bets / raises. Youve done this before, your spirits are just low at the moment.
  57. #207
    use 2500 Fpps(if you have them) to buy the 40 dollar instant cash credit. Then 500 fpps for the 8 dollar cash credit.......

    SO you will be up by 2dollars.

    by the way you seem very tight on the button/CO and you seem to like to bet 1/2 pot a lot.
  58. #208
    you should sweat me sometime because I have like double your pfr
  59. #209
    I was pretty tilted when I posted this last night. I usually play til about 12:30 or so but I quit early. I knew I was down about 1.5 BIs and was getting ready to quit. When I saw I was down almost 4 BIs I tilted. After reviewing HEM I realized it was the hands where I could never hit with broadways, 9 outers, or even 13 outers that I lost another 2.5 BIs.

    I've been watching lots of GS vids lately and I'm trying to do a better job of putting villians on a range. My ranges are going to shit though because they seem to always be at the top of the range lately. I also think I'm making waay to many hero calls.


    Sometime soon I should go on a major heater

    Schya,
    Thanks for the encouragement. I try to fold when I think I'm beat but lately I always have second best, get rivered, or the famous four flush board when I have a set.

    Clvacva,
    I will do the bonus thing. Thanks for the reminder.

    I do seem to bet 1/2 pot alot. This a leak?

    Micro2Macro,
    I'd love to. I'll hit you up on IRC.

    Maybe I can get someone to sweat me too.
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

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    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  60. #210
    Got me some $48 bonus last night. Feel much better now. Haven't gotten a bonus in a while. Hard to get FPPs at 5nl. I'm going to try to maintain Silverstar for awhile. Should help with the downswings.

    I did not play at all yesterday.

    Watched m2m play for a while yesterday on teamviewer and skype.
    A few things I noticed:
    He reviews winning hands probably more than losing hands.
    He rarely goes to showdown and loses.
    He rarely just calls.
    He ALWAYS puts villian on a range.
    He shrugs it off when he loses.
    He opens pokerstove occasionally
    He adjusts his play based on how the table and individual players are playing (tightens up when his image gets loose and visa versa)
    He makes lots of notes
    He thinks everything through instead of just pushing buttons
    He plans his hands
    He says oot (that canadian thing)
    He didn't make one comment aboot my accent.
    He told me what some of those damn chat acronyms mean
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

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    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  61. #211
    fwiw, I never used to do half that crap - I just clicked buttons.

    oh but the Canadian accent was always there lol
  62. #212
    Within 2.5 days after getting my bonus, I lost all of it ($48). Got very frustrated.

    Then....

    I went on a major heater (about time)

    within the next two days I was up 14 BIs with 8 of those in one session.

    Golf update:
    I still suck but I'm getting better.
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

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    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  63. #213
    The heater continued. I won 4BIs while playing in the FTR300 today.

    I got some nice volume in this month also. Made Silver Star and got a bonus for the first time in a while.

    BR at $410

    Finally over rolled for 10NL.

    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

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    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  64. #214
    Heater continues...

    Up 14.5 BIs since October 1. Yep, that 's 2 days

    WTF is going on? BR is at $560

    Am I playing well or just on a major heater?

    I don't know and I don't care.



    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

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    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  65. #215
    VN sir! It's about damn time things started going your way. Congrats on the heater!
  66. #216
    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquach991
    Up 14.5 BIs since October 1
    sick
  67. #217
    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquach991
    I don't know and I don't care.
    For real: let the good times roll for as long as they want!
    - Jason

  68. #218
    Thanks guys.

    Heater continues...

    Lost a couple of BIs early tonight but came back to up a little over 5 BIs for the session.

    Up over 20 BIs for October

    BR is at $613
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

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    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  69. #219
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquach991
    Up over 20 BIs for October
    BR is at $613
    vnh
  70. #220
    BR is at $690

    The highest it's even been.

    Up a whopping 27 BIs for October.

    At $750 or $800 it's 25NL time.
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

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    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  71. #221
    nice progress. seems like ever since our sweat session you've been killing it - what gives
  72. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by Micro2Macro
    nice progress. seems like ever since our sweat session you've been killing it - what gives
    I used to think "What would Spenda do?" and I'd fold.

    Now I think "What would M2M do" and I'd bet.

    Yeah, that's it.

    Actually the sweat session combined with all the GS videos I've been watching has opened my eyes to several things.

    1. Value Bet-this is the biggest. Sweating you and watching Spenda's and Colossus' 10nl videos on GS has made a big change in my play and really showed me how to value bet. You really started it. Added a yellow sticky note to my monitor that says value bet.

    2. Fold to a raise without a really good reason to call or reraise. Added a yellow sticky to the monitor that says FOLD

    3. Make hero calls when villians half pot river bet doesn't make sense and looks real bluffy.

    4. Here's one that has really made a huge difference and saved me from losing a lot of pots or helped me win a lot of huge pots
    -Start 3 tables and take notes on at least half of all the players at every table before adding a 4th table.

    5. Don't call a shove without a really good reason and without alot of stats or notes on a player. I also added a sticky that says No AI with TP. There are exceptions to this one.

    6. Wait one full rotation before making any big moves.

    7. Plan my hands.

    8. Set it or forget it. Exception is when I call with say 44 against one villian and he checks or minbets flop.

    9. Be more selective where I Cbet.

    10. If I lose a couple of BIs, stop playing and open pokerstove to see if I was playing like a tard.

    11. I started saying oot Sweating you really did help alot. I didn't say much but I made lots of notes.

    Forgot one...

    12. Adjust to the table. Previously when the vpip of the table dropped to about 18 or so, I'd leave and find another. Now I open up more and steal pots/blinds until the table adjusts and then wait til I get a monster and stackem.
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

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    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  73. #223
    Been on a cooler lately.

    Hit my stop loss of about 5% every day for the past 4 days.

    Down about 11 BI

    BR at $580

    Update:
    Went from $690 to $540 in 5 days

    The cooler continues...

    And just when I thought I was approaching 25NL.

    Still running at 8.6bb/100

    It pretty bad for the poker ego to lose 15 BIs in 5 days
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

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    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  74. #224
    I don't know what to do now.

    BR is at $512

    I think I'll take a break for a few days.
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  75. #225
    dilemma:
    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquach991
    BR is at $512
    solution:
    Quote Originally Posted by sasquach991
    I think I'll take a break for a few days.
    hope things turn around for you. glgl.

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