Operation Get Better

Up another buyin today over 680 hands. Includes AK>KK vs. like 40bb but also lost an allin to a gutter ball vs. 75bb. I may not be able to play much later tonight. Over last 2k hands I am up nearly 4 buyins running at 8.86BB/100. 18/12/2.4 stats...too nitty?

Originally Posted by kmind

Over last 2k hands I am up nearly 4 buyins running at 8.86BB/100. 18/12/2.4 stats...too nitty?

Don't fix what ain't broke.

Well if you want to disguise every post-flop leak you have running 18/12 isn't a bad way to go about doing it.

Or you could get better, run 20/18 and pwnasaurusRex 50nl next time you get up there.

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

Well if you want to disguise every post-flop leak you have running 18/12 isn't a bad way to go about doing it.

Or you could get better, run 20/18 and pwnasaurusRex 50nl next time you get up there.

Am getting better. I used to run like 15/12 4 tabling. Now it's 18/13 (yeah small typo when I said 12 and I know doesn't help much) and I doubled the amount of tables. It's not all about the hourly winrate now is it? If I run less tables and play more post flop I'll make less. I still think my postflop is a lot better than it was. Is it safe to say your vpip should tighten a bit vs. short stacks?

Back down almost a buyin now over 1.1k hands. Here are some hands:

1.
POKERSTARS GAME #13949798998: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/12/18 - 19:05:51 (ET)
Table 'Michel II' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: >Sir<Lorenz ($53.10 in chips)
Seat 2: crouchinho15 ($38.35 in chips)
Seat 3: RedPlacebo ($29.40 in chips)
Seat 4: toddanderson ($24.65 in chips)
Seat 5: xpaka ($59.85 in chips)
Seat 6: biggs615 ($25 in chips)
>Sir<Lorenz: posts small blind $0.10
crouchinho15: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Ad Ah]
RedPlacebo: raises $0.75 to $1
toddanderson: raises $2.50 to $3.50
xpaka: folds
biggs615: folds
>Sir<Lorenz: calls $3.40
crouchinho15: folds
RedPlacebo: calls $2.50
*** FLOP *** [Jc Js 9d]
>Sir<Lorenz: checks
RedPlacebo: checks
toddanderson: bets $6.50
>Sir<Lorenz: raises $6.50 to $13
RedPlacebo: folds
toddanderson: folds


2. Gay attempt to bluff
POKERSTARS GAME #13945389821: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/12/18 - 15:27:21 (ET)
Table 'Proserpina' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: grimsly4523 ($24.25 in chips)
Seat 2: paluan ($43.10 in chips)
Seat 3: narbet ($12.15 in chips)
Seat 4: ckhfarm ($24.35 in chips)
Seat 5: huse67 ($9.60 in chips)
Seat 6: toddanderson ($25.75 in chips)
paluan: posts small blind $0.10
narbet: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [9h Jh]
ckhfarm: folds
huse67: folds
toddanderson: raises $0.75 to $1
grimsly4523: folds
paluan: folds
narbet: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [Kh 5d 3c]
narbet: checks
toddanderson: bets $1.50
narbet: calls $1.50
*** TURN *** [Kh 5d 3c] [Qh]
narbet: checks
toddanderson: checks
*** RIVER *** [Kh 5d 3c Qh] [Ad]
narbet: checks
toddanderson: bets $4



3.flip flip
POKERSTARS GAME #13945367901: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/12/18 - 15:26:21 (ET)
Table 'Mufrid III' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Danny.N ($25.25 in chips)
Seat 2: l0l3rsk8z ($24.05 in chips)
Seat 3: toddanderson ($36.40 in chips)
Seat 4: paluan ($24.40 in chips)
Seat 5: 66Fat Boy66 ($6 in chips)
Seat 6: JPBel ($16.55 in chips)
Danny.N: posts small blind $0.10
l0l3rsk8z: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [8h 8c]
toddanderson: raises $0.75 to $1
paluan: folds
66Fat Boy66: raises $0.75 to $1.75
JPBel: folds
Danny.N: folds
l0l3rsk8z: folds
toddanderson: raises $34.65 to $36.40 and is all-in
66Fat Boy66: calls $4.25 and is all-in


4.what the hell do i do here with moderate showdown value?
POKERSTARS GAME #13945931958: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/12/18 - 15:53:04 (ET)
Table 'Orion IV' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: JeromW ($47.65 in chips)
Seat 2: nomanirvana ($25.55 in chips)
Seat 3: inductive ($22.80 in chips)
Seat 4: Picazzo ($27.15 in chips)
Seat 5: paluan ($25.15 in chips)
Seat 6: toddanderson ($25.30 in chips)
Picazzo: posts small blind $0.10
paluan: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [7d 7s]
toddanderson: raises $0.75 to $1
JeromW: calls $1
nomanirvana: folds
inductive: folds
Picazzo: folds
paluan: folds
*** FLOP *** [9h 5d 6s]
toddanderson: bets $1.50
JeromW: calls $1.50
*** TURN *** [9h 5d 6s] [6h]
toddanderson:


5.do i raise flop or fold flop or what?
POKERSTARS GAME #13945613531: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/12/18 - 15:37:41 (ET)
Table 'Orion IV' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: nomanirvana ($25.95 in chips)
Seat 3: Carpio70 ($14.35 in chips)
Seat 4: tilt.rob ($29.95 in chips)
Seat 5: paluan ($25.70 in chips)
Seat 6: toddanderson ($24.90 in chips)
nomanirvana: posts small blind $0.10
Carpio70: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Jc Ks]
tilt.rob: calls $0.25
paluan: folds
toddanderson: raises $1 to $1.25
nomanirvana: folds
Carpio70: calls $1
tilt.rob: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [8d Kd Ad]
Carpio70: bets $1
tilt.rob: folds
toddanderson: calls $1
*** TURN *** [8d Kd Ad] [3c]
Carpio70: bets $1.50
toddanderson: calls $1.50
*** RIVER *** [8d Kd Ad 3c] [9h]
Carpio70: bets $2
toddanderson: calls $2


6.cooler?
POKERSTARS GAME #13944996422: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/12/18 - 15:09:15 (ET)
Table 'Kentaurus III' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: Pyk123 ($11.05 in chips)
Seat 3: toddanderson ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: Jellan ($14.30 in chips)
Seat 5: tilt.rob ($18.20 in chips)
Seat 6: Kekeey ($5.25 in chips)
Pyk123: posts small blind $0.10
toddanderson: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [4d 6s]
Jellan: folds
tilt.rob: calls $0.25
Kekeey: folds
Pyk123: calls $0.15
Kekeey leaves the table
toddanderson: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qs 4c 6h]
Pyk123: checks
toddanderson: bets $0.50
tilt.rob: folds
Pyk123: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [Qs 4c 6h] [5d]
Pyk123: checks
toddanderson: bets $1.25
Pyk123: raises $1.25 to $2.50
toddanderson: calls $1.25
*** RIVER *** [Qs 4c 6h 5d] [Ad]
Pyk123: bets $1.25
toddanderson: calls $1.25



7.gay don't call right?
POKERSTARS GAME #13949836592: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/12/18 - 19:07:48 (ET)
Table 'Rotanev III' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: toddanderson ($25 in chips)
Seat 2: pagone ($22.80 in chips)
Seat 3: mrbumpkin ($30.80 in chips)
Seat 4: pokrates ($37.95 in chips)
pagone: posts small blind $0.10
mrbumpkin: posts big blind $0.25
matz333: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [8h 7h]
pokrates: calls $0.25
toddanderson: raises $1 to $1.25
pagone: folds
mrbumpkin: folds
pokrates: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [Ts Jh Qs]
pokrates: checks
toddanderson: checks
*** TURN *** [Ts Jh Qs] [5c]
pokrates: checks
toddanderson: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ts Jh Qs 5c] [9d]
pokrates: bets $3
toddanderson: calls $3



8.don't know what to do preflop with AK at these damn tables and getting 3bet
POKERSTARS GAME #13945123830: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/12/18 - 15:15:09 (ET)
Table 'Lumiere III' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: toddanderson ($25 in chips)
Seat 3: WelshDanny ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: Chipalex ($16.65 in chips)
Seat 5: arvid.dk ($8.80 in chips)
Seat 6: GoToTableNow ($25.70 in chips)
toddanderson: posts small blind $0.10
WelshDanny: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Kh Ad]
Chipalex said, "u didnt bet aggressive enough to kick me out"
Chipalex: calls $0.25
arvid.dk: folds
GoToTableNow: folds
toddanderson: raises $1 to $1.25
WelshDanny: raises $2.75 to $4
Chipalex: folds
toddanderson: calls $2.75
*** FLOP *** [Tc 9h 7s]
arvid.dk said, "i know but its still luck"
toddanderson: checks
WelshDanny: bets $21 and is all-in
toddanderson: folds

I'm not too angry all in all but I need to study more and of course went on tilt with spenda's comment

IF my comment tilted you I apologize.

It was meant as motivation

nah you're good I just wanted to know exactly why what I was doing was wrong. It kind of sucks...either play better and have a better feel for when I move up or play like I have been and increase the BR quicker.

well just lost 2 buyins in 65 hands one was a coinflip of AA<KK with some pretty sick preflop action (almost had 2 more preflop allin callers). gg less tables

i need to study my hands a lot more. "bad beats only happen to good players". I like that quote but i'm still in a pretty shitty mood. i need sleep gnight ftr

Alright I played nitty mcnit fuck today and I am really pissed at myself. I think I tilted because I lost a lot more coinflips when my side was far heavier again. I really don't know how people move up when all this shit happens. I'm going to study HH a whole fucking lot for the rest of today and tomorrow or whatever before I try playing again.

Originally Posted by kmind

bad beats only happen to good players

yeah, I've been thinking along these lines too - if I get in ahead 80% and behind 20% of the time, then I'll suck out a lot less frequently than I get bad beat. So it feels like I'm unlucky. But normally I'm not all-in as >3:1 favourite, so I'm going to feel a bunch of beats - and I guess that's fine. Don't like it though!

Originally Posted by daven

Originally Posted by kmind

bad beats only happen to good players

yeah, I've been thinking along these lines too - if I get in ahead 80% and behind 20% of the time, then I'll suck out a lot less frequently than I get bad beat. So it feels like I'm unlucky. But normally I'm not all-in as >3:1 favourite, so I'm going to feel a bunch of beats - and I guess that's fine. Don't like it though!

Haha amen

Yesterday I thought a lot about poker, had a good talk with spenda and just tried to go over hands with pokerstove and ranges and all that shit. Went pretty well and I won't be able to play much if at all today so I have to think a lot more today as well. The Gauntlet keeps helping me out as I finished 3rd overall so I got a nice chunk of change (at least for me). I also get some FTR gear so that's a cool bonus. Thanks Xianti and GMML!

Only able to play 300 hands since Christmas. Been polarizing my cbet ranges in this small sample, seemed to do pretty well. Very noticible to those who pay attention but they don't so yeah, I'm going to keep trying it. Anyways, went up nearly 2 buyins, played heads up as a table empty and got coolered then played some more 6-max and went back up to like 1.5 buyins overall. Not too bad. I hope this cbetting thing seems to work out pretty well because I suck at cbetting and it seems like it should be profitable due to how rough estimate my opponents hit, my cbetting size, and the times they hit but I hit harder. I don't know. Also been playing pretty well preflop as I used to just kind of go by guides but now I understand more on when and why to play certain hands. This is gay but oh well.

Long time no talk. Been on life tilt lately but oh well. Played in the Gauntlet TOC yesterday and was fortunate to take it down for $70 then played like 225 hands today. I feel really tired so I wasn't able to play much today. Ended up winning about a buyin in that small amount which includes me running hot then getting 2 outtered after the money goes in so I guess overall I kind of ran just a tad bit below expectation. I've decided I am going to play huge amounts of poker in the next 3 months and that means huge amounts of cash games. SnGs and other tournies will be put on hold unless something comes up.

dude I thought we agreed on no more cash.

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

dude I thought we agreed on no more cash.

Thought this was a joke. I mean yeah I did well in the Gauntlet and have scored (quite a bit of my BR actually) in one table SnGs but I am determined to get good at cash. Maybe play a shitload of cash one day, then tournies another? Or like 2 days of cash and then tournies for one I don't know. To be honest I am scared of playing a lot of tournies and going on a huge cold streak.

focus on one mate

PokerStars Game #14405598485: Tournament #72643503, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2008/01/08 - 01:53:22 (ET)
Table '72643503 85' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: pinky0316 (48900 in chips)
Seat 2: OhPattyIrish (11860 in chips)
Seat 3: Tex4u (63700 in chips)
Seat 4: Mr Thorne (42946 in chips)
Seat 5: + to the EV! (20164 in chips)
Seat 6: toddanderson (10800 in chips)
pinky0316: posts the ante 75
OhPattyIrish: posts the ante 75
Tex4u: posts the ante 75
Mr Thorne: posts the ante 75
+ to the EV!: posts the ante 75
toddanderson: posts the ante 75
toddanderson: posts small blind 400
pinky0316: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Tc Ah]
OhPattyIrish: folds
pinky0316 said, "hurry"
Tex4u: folds
Mr Thorne: raises 1422 to 2222
+ to the EV!: folds
pinky0316 said, "pallas"
toddanderson: raises 8503 to 10725 and is all-in
pinky0316: folds
Mr Thorne: calls 8503
*** FLOP *** [Kd 8s Qd]
*** TURN *** [Kd 8s Qd] [4s]
*** RIVER *** [Kd 8s Qd 4s] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
toddanderson: shows [Tc Ah] (high card Ace)
Mr Thorne: shows [Ts 2s] (a pair of Deuces)
Mr Thorne collected 22700 from pot
Mr Thorne said, "gg"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 22700 | Rake 0
Board [Kd 8s Qd 4s 2h]
Seat 1: pinky0316 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: OhPattyIrish folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Tex4u folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Mr Thorne showed [Ts 2s] and won (22700) with a pair of Deuces
Seat 5: + to the EV! (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: toddanderson (small blind) showed [Tc Ah] and lost with high card Ace


bahhhhhh 36/696

okerStars Game #14426504741: Tournament #72643652, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2008/01/08 - 23:50:11 (ET)
Table '72643652 107' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: skluz44 (2145 in chips)
Seat 2: IamGarfinkle (2475 in chips)
Seat 3: jjesco425 (2375 in chips)
Seat 4: toddanderson (1953 in chips)
Seat 5: Envision9 (1155 in chips)
Seat 6: Fre$h2Death (1195 in chips)
Fre$h2Death: posts small blind 25
skluz44: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Ah Qd]
IamGarfinkle: calls 50
jjesco425: folds
toddanderson: raises 135 to 185
Envision9: folds
Fre$h2Death: calls 160
skluz44: folds
IamGarfinkle: calls 135
*** FLOP *** [Qc Tc Qs]
Fre$h2Death: checks
IamGarfinkle: bets 250
toddanderson: raises 1518 to 1768 and is all-in
Fre$h2Death: folds
IamGarfinkle: calls 1518
*** TURN *** [Qc Tc Qs] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [Qc Tc Qs 7c] [Jh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
IamGarfinkle: shows [7s 7h] (a full house, Sevens full of Queens)
toddanderson: shows [Ah Qd] (three of a kind, Queens)
toddanderson said, "my god"
IamGarfinkle collected 4141 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4141 | Rake 0
Board [Qc Tc Qs 7c Jh]
Seat 1: skluz44 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: IamGarfinkle showed [7s 7h] and won (4141) with a full house, Sevens full of Queens
Seat 3: jjesco425 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: toddanderson showed [Ah Qd] and lost with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 5: Envision9 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Fre$h2Death (small blind) folded on the Flop

fuck me. i have the worst image and hit hard weeeeeeeee

I missed the SNG experiment today

I thought today was the was the day before, wtf

I heard you did well, congrats man!

no worries man! But thanks for the compliment. I hope all your personal problems got better for you!

I may play SnG's/MTTs for a bit now but I really think I am getting better at cash. It's weird, I think cash games help my SnG/MTT game but am also seeing my cash game be better because of tournies. I *think* I display kind of a bad/looser image which really gets me paid off as I can adjust pretty well now. It's so amazing how bad a lot of tournament players are, ESPECIALLY postflop. And that does not mean any FTRers I have played, so don't think I'm better than you.

Played some cash today 8 tabling with a nice profit of 4 buyins. Stats looked like 18/15/3.5 which is less nittier than before when I tried multitabling. Got my HUD in a position where I can add more tables because it's much easier to read now (yeah I'm a robot). To top it off, I got my nice bonus from the Gauntlet which for me is 3 buyins haha. So, yeah biggest profit day so far, +7 buyins. BR is slightly bigger than ever...feels good after some more life tiltage at least.

I played somewhat bad today and lost 2.5 buyins. Got suckout twice though so it would be a lot less. I just don't get why the fuck the BR auto goes down when I get over $1100

400 hands down over a buyin pocket aces 7 times

Alright so I figured out I'd need about 15000 hands at 25NL this month to get silver status. It's definitely doable and was a plan of mine. However, I just got back my losses from today by playing a SnG. If I go all tournament mode I really doubt I'll get silver. I hate poker

Edit: Since I seem to write short entries I will try to edit a post if there is no comments on it. Here are 2 hands with me playing pretty lag on 2 tables. Both tables had really big fish so I tried to play as many hands as possible with them.

Hand 1: This was vs. an aware opponent in that he really tried to play with me a lot because I assume he thought I was just spewing chips. His stats don't matter really as I know vs. me he wanted every pot and called BS everytime I bet. I was running 37/28/2.7 at the time and had won 7 out of the last 10 pots. This is probably really standard as a tight player with so much FE but I didn't feel as if I had much.
PokerStars Game #14514720318: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/01/12 - 20:16:20 (ET)
Table 'Mizar V' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: ticktack26 ($25 in chips)
Seat 3: toddanderson ($37.40 in chips)
Seat 4: gonzo1983 ($42.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Blond Jon ($24.15 in chips)
Blond Jon: posts small blind $0.10
ticktack26: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Js Ts]
toddanderson: raises $0.75 to $1
gonzo1983: folds
Blond Jon: calls $0.90
ticktack26: folds
*** FLOP *** [3h Jc 5s]
Blond Jon: bets $2
toddanderson: calls $2
*** TURN *** [3h Jc 5s] [4s]
Blond Jon: bets $5
toddanderson: raises $29.40 to $34.40 and is all-in



Hand 2: This player never raised pre, vpip of 21. I was running 22/19/7.7 so nothing too loose but maybe a little aggressive. Not sure if he was noticing that though. Anyways, I think by 3 barrelling I can fold out a lot of his 8x hands and also of course fold out some draws that are actually beating me. He's got to raise sometime here right if he has an 8 or something better?
PokerStars Game #14514971374: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/01/12 - 20:28:41 (ET)
Table 'Amalasuntha II' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Darthporn ($24.15 in chips)
Seat 2: thøns ($6.85 in chips)
Seat 3: magainv ($34.95 in chips)
Seat 4: firata ($24.50 in chips)
Seat 5: toddanderson ($31.80 in chips)
Seat 6: duff1212 ($26.20 in chips)
Darthporn: posts small blind $0.10
thøns: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Ks Tc]
magainv: folds
firata: folds
toddanderson: raises $0.75 to $1
duff1212: folds
Darthporn: calls $0.90
thøns: folds
*** FLOP *** [5d 8h 4h]
Darthporn: checks
toddanderson: bets $1.50
Darthporn: calls $1.50
*** TURN *** [5d 8h 4h] [4d]
Darthporn: checks
toddanderson: bets $3.25
Darthporn: calls $3.25
*** RIVER *** [5d 8h 4h 4d] [3c]
Darthporn: checks
toddanderson: bets $8.50

Ok so after the great discussion on my hands I have come to the conclusion that hand 1 sucked in a majjjjjjjjjor way. I should never raise turn there. Raising a bluff makes no sense.

Anyways, been playing some 4.40 180man SnGs. Really really soft and everyone sucks. But they also suckout too sooooo no scores yet.

Blah I really really suck at cash games. I think I'm just going to study for like a week or whatever before even stepping foot at the tables again. It's ridiculous.

hand 1: calling the turn is best by far. We have a shitty image, TP, FD and are in position. Call turn and let villain bluff into you again on the river.

hand 2: I would usually just check behind turn here but i dont hate 3 barrelling. Villain definitly has 8x or a FD and FD seems more likely. If he is a showdown muppet then im not continuing without improving after the flop.

Thank you very much bode. Villain folds in both hands.

I thought I'd give my thoughts on why I think I am sucking. This probably won't be well written in anyway but I'll just write what is on my mind.

So yeah I think I do horrible in my medium pots, the pots where basically I cbet, get called and I have nothing or medium pair or something less than TPTK. I cbet basically air, made hands TP+/monsters or huge draws. Once I get called I feel as if I have to shutdown if I cbet air because I have nothing and they usually don't fold and will take their horrible hands to showdown. I feel like some definitely float me by calling my cbets and then betting like 1/5 pot or something really small and I fold with air and call down with like mid pair or something that loses a lot. I also feel lost when I get like minraised and I hold either TPGK or an overpair and whenever I continue with it I am sure enough beat. I played a maniac today who showed every hand even if it did not go to showdown and raised every hand preflop, called any raise preflop blah blah blah and I would basically have to keep folding when I didn't hit top pair because the one time I did hit second pair he just kept betting like he always does and I lose. I tried to isolate him when I had something good preflop but I miss and he takes down the pot. Maybe I don't go to showdown enough but it seems as if everytime I do I just lose to this type of player. The looser games seem like a great place to play but once you try to play more hands by raising their limps and stuff it's just remarkable how little cbetting works. And of course if I'm OOP and check they just bet at the flop. I'm usually in position but there are definitely times I feel a raise is permitted OOP when I hold like AK but then the board sucks. I have been told to just look at a bunch of hands in PT from the past but I feel as if my ranges are always flawed. I perform well in tournaments though because it seems as if no one really floats and it's that easy but I can't really stand the long hours of playing and then getting sucked out for you to lose on the bubble and stuff like that. SnGs are such a big part of my profits and that needs to change. I want to get better at cash. Any advice or whatever would be great.

Ok last rant is what it is.

Now, thanks to Sauce specifically, I learned an insane poker concept that is basically unheard of. That's a huge lie and I am completely embarrassed to write this but it really made me think differently in that our opponents aren't always the same. That last statement is it and is completely standard even I would have said "well obviously" but I never took the time to really think about this. Some take different lines in certain situations (obv) with similar stats as others. The way I use, and probably the only way, is to look at their past showdown hands. I can kind of get an idea on what they call, raise, minraise, etc. with and can exploit it. From my few hands at 25nl and 50nl and using this technique, I can see that most take the same lines in the same situations instead of balancing. From my few hands at those levels, I am up a lot, with 6 less tables than normal. I am definitely just beginning to think on these terms and will pick up more things when looking at lines but so far I can kind of get an idea on how they view poker. As in, for example, if they think 2nd pair top kicker is a good hand to c/c OOP 2/3 flop bet, 1/2 turn bet, and 1/2 river bet, etc.

One thing I have picked up on (well maybe two but mainly one), is how great being IP really is when you can see their line first...again really obvious. Now, this is great because you can raise more pre against certain players you know a lot about and esp. do so in position. So those are the two things, using position and isolating more vs. players you can easily exploit but you mainly want to be in position unless you have huge reads when he's IP.

So nothing new, but after reading some of griffey's post I think it will be good to write down notes after learning ideas from sessions/thinking.

I wasn't gonna post outside the commune for a long time, keeping 1234 posts on FTR

anyway, here goes


Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Originally Posted by kmind

I want to get better at cash. Any advice or whatever would be great.

My advice: put ego aside and stick to tourney's till you have about 5K or so for 100NL. You've shown you are a big shark in tourneys, so why not play them more.

With tourney's I mean both SNG and MTTS, start at the $11's or so, freeroll to bigger buyins

haven't really played much since finishing in the top 3 of 2 180 man SnGs. Been thinking about poker a lot though. Really thinking differently in some cases, allowing me to play more hands pre as well as taking more hands further post. This is such a small sample size but I have felt pretty good so far with my recent success as I know I am playing differently from my old style.



i hope to laugh at this graph someday

damn man, play mooooooooooore...especially when you're playing good/feeling good

nice results, i hope that was today only and not the entire week:P

Scoped you the other day, I take it that huge spike is from the two 180s you FT'd in? Nice stuff .

Got a question, you've seen my game and enough posts to know how I play. What advice would you have for adjustments when I play MTTs?

180 tournies are so insane, AA<QJ pre (yay image or maybe they just suck so much). Then I got called with another image call in imo, KT<A9. 89>77 though obv. I was unfortunately short a lot today. Not really getting huge hands, and when I do I get beat, yay. Umm so yeah cash has been good. I really think I am learning the game of poker. Watched a friend play 50NL and pretty much told him what I would have done each hand and it seemed to work. He obv. mainly played his style (very aggro, 4bet min raising 78 pre in a blind war at this level, etc.)

Tried HU for a little vs a real short stack, ran hot pre. QQ and then KK in consecutive hands...and allin pre!! yes!!!!!:

POKERSTARS GAME #14812650830: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/01/25 - 12:57:37 (ET)
Table 'Ilioneus III' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: toddanderson ($46.40 in chips)
Seat 2: mikkel93 ($7.95 in chips)
toddanderson: posts small blind $0.25
mikkel93: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Qc Qd]
toddanderson: raises $1 to $1.50
mikkel93: raises $6.45 to $7.95 and is all-in
toddanderson: calls $6.45
*** FLOP *** [5c Kd 6d]
*** TURN *** [5c Kd 6d] [9d]
*** RIVER *** [5c Kd 6d 9d] [Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mikkel93: shows [4d Ad] (a flush, Ace high)
toddanderson: shows [Qc Qd] (three of a kind, Queens)
mikkel93 collected $15.40 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $15.90 | Rake $0.50
Board [5c Kd 6d 9d Qh]
Seat 1: toddanderson (button) (small blind) showed [Qc Qd] and lost with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 2: mikkel93 (big blind) showed [4d Ad] and won ($15.40) with a flush, Ace high


POKERSTARS GAME #14812656750: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/01/25 - 12:57:57 (ET)
Table 'Ilioneus III' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: toddanderson ($38.45 in chips)
Seat 2: mikkel93 ($15.40 in chips)
mikkel93: posts small blind $0.25
toddanderson: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Ks Kd]
mikkel93: raises $0.50 to $1
toddanderson: raises $2 to $3
mikkel93: raises $12.40 to $15.40 and is all-in
toddanderson: calls $12.40
*** FLOP *** [Js Qs 6s]
*** TURN *** [Js Qs 6s] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [Js Qs 6s Ad] [Ac]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
toddanderson: shows [Ks Kd] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
mikkel93: shows [Qc Ah] (a full house, Aces full of Queens)
mikkel93 collected $30.30 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $30.80 | Rake $0.50
Board [Js Qs 6s Ad Ac]
Seat 1: toddanderson (big blind) showed [Ks Kd] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 2: mikkel93 (button) (small blind) showed [Qc Ah] and won ($30.30) with a full house, Aces full of Queens


But regardless of that, I got QQ again and AA to get back my stack, as well as the rest of his.

heater, wish me luck (more so wish me luck it's me actually getting better)

i hope i didn't jinx it. anyways, been really really busy lately with school and stuff but the poker i have been able to get in has treated me well.

Nice stuff! No doubt you're running hot because of skill!

haha thanks dude! i'll catch up with you hopefully soon on msn

BR now at $1526. Praying that I never have to move down to 25nl or below again.

fuck just got coolered (imo) in a quick session before classes for 1.5 buyins. It's amazing who plays earlier in the morning, they all are horrible. I get like 4 callers pre whenever I raise but of course AQ<AT with an ace on flop and then QQ<AA vs. an 80/0. I can't always assume a limp/RR from an 80/0 is AA right? I just called pre and stacked off on a stupid flop of JT4. I just felt he was so bad he could have some weird shit. Oh well. I think I may play a bunch of 4.40s again. Tried 3-betting like mad-man last night with success...but only vs. the right, thinking opponents. They seem to fold a lot pre or fold way too much post.

I can't always assume a limp/RR from an 80/0 is AA right?

If those stats are reliable and a big enough sample size then I dunno, you sort of can. Especially if he goes mental post-flop. Hardly a massive leak though.

Bah I don't care what that shows I can't win with kings or anything else. I'm going to pull the 70% variance 30% playing poorly card out. I will admit I got "fancy" and used my image and they just showed up with the nuts. I maaaay make note that most 50NL/25NLers don't adjust as often as I think. But I know some still do, just a matter of finding out who. I definitely need to wait for showdowned hands though before making assumptions. Here are some hands for you ballas:

1. villain is really loose on the button. Yes, no?

POKERSTARS GAME #15260118211: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/02/13 - 13:15:18 (ET)
Table 'Arthur III' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Swim ($25.60 in chips)
Seat 2: ajfonso ($25 in chips)
Seat 3: TiltGuru ($53.75 in chips)
Seat 4: ImQuiteDonk ($31.15 in chips)
Seat 5: toddanderson ($35.10 in chips)
Seat 6: abgDE ($18.05 in chips)
toddanderson: posts small blind $0.10
abgDE: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Kc Kh]
Swim: folds
ajfonso: folds
TiltGuru: folds
ImQuiteDonk: raises $0.50 to $0.75
toddanderson: raises $2 to $2.75
abgDE: folds
ImQuiteDonk: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [6h 8h 7h]
toddanderson: bets $4
ImQuiteDonk: raises $8.50 to $12.50
toddanderson: raises $19.85 to $32.35 and is all-in
ImQuiteDonk: calls $15.90 and is all-in


2. POKERSTARS GAME #15200529847: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/02/10 - 19:00:37 (ET)
Table 'Echion IV' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: hedicht ($53.05 in chips)
Seat 2: FuFuinger ($12 in chips)
Seat 3: fdresn ($27.15 in chips)
Seat 4: MedcoMan ($51.10 in chips)
Seat 5: Profigambler ($27.75 in chips)
Seat 6: toddanderson ($50 in chips)
Profigambler: posts small blind $0.25
toddanderson: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Kc Ks]
hedicht: raises $1 to $1.50
FuFuinger: calls $1.50
fdresn: folds
MedcoMan: folds
Profigambler: folds
toddanderson: raises $4.50 to $6
hedicht: calls $4.50
FuFuinger: calls $4.50
*** FLOP *** [7s 5c Qs]
toddanderson: bets $7.50
hedicht: calls $7.50
FuFuinger: folds
*** TURN *** [7s 5c Qs] [4c]
toddanderson: bets $22



3.POKERSTARS GAME #15213464375: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/02/11 - 13:10:14 (ET)
Table 'Campanula II' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: foldu ($16.70 in chips)
Seat 2: kingmmm ($9.50 in chips)
Seat 4: aloux777 ($17.20 in chips)
Seat 5: toddanderson ($54.45 in chips)
Seat 6: cardhobo ($25.75 in chips)
foldu: posts small blind $0.10
kingmmm: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Jh Ah]
aloux777: calls $0.25
toddanderson: raises $1 to $1.25
cardhobo: folds
foldu: folds
kingmmm: folds
aloux777: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [7d 6s 7s]
aloux777: checks
toddanderson: bets $2
aloux777: calls $2
*** TURN *** [7d 6s 7s] [Jd]
aloux777: checks
toddanderson: bets $3.50
fr4nk123456 joins the table at seat #3
aloux777: raises $5.50 to $9
toddanderson: raises $14.75 to $23.75



4.POKERSTARS GAME #15213391802: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/02/11 - 13:07:18 (ET)
Table 'Thora III' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: monyetteket ($74.85 in chips)
Seat 4: Fugazy85 ($16.10 in chips)
Seat 5: Weyhon ($31.95 in chips)
Seat 6: toddanderson ($25.70 in chips)
Weyhon: posts small blind $0.10
toddanderson: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Js Jc]
monyetteket: raises $0.75 to $1
Fugazy85: calls $1
Weyhon: folds
toddanderson: raises $4.50 to $5.50
monyetteket: folds
Fugazy85: calls $4.50
*** FLOP *** [Ah 6d 7s]
toddanderson:



5."image" play, would cbet otherwise for sure:
POKERSTARS GAME #15198670450: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/02/10 - 16:12:58 (ET)
Table 'Acamar IV' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: beanaldo ($12.15 in chips)
Seat 2: Duder83 ($32.05 in chips)
Seat 3: Daci ($96.20 in chips)
Seat 4: MONSTERKOEK ($67.60 in chips)
Seat 5: toddanderson ($54.90 in chips)
Seat 6: black666 ($54.50 in chips)
toddanderson: posts small blind $0.25
black666: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [As Js]
beanaldo: folds
Duder83: raises $0.50 to $1
Daci: folds
MONSTERKOEK: folds
toddanderson: raises $3 to $4
black666: folds
Duder83: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [Ac Th 2s]
toddanderson: checks
Duder83: checks
*** TURN *** [Ac Th 2s] [Ad]
toddanderson: bets $5
Duder83: raises $23.05 to $28.05 and is all-in
toddanderson:



6.villain is a 20/16/3:
POKERSTARS GAME #15199387542: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/02/10 - 17:17:48 (ET)
Table 'Acamar IV' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: PokerUwe_de ($50 in chips)
Seat 2: Duder83 ($129.05 in chips)
Seat 3: JdangerJ ($18.25 in chips)
Seat 4: MONSTERKOEK ($84.85 in chips)
Seat 5: toddanderson ($47.50 in chips)
Seat 6: black666 ($57.20 in chips)
toddanderson: posts small blind $0.25
black666: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Td Kc]
PokerUwe_de: folds
Duder83: folds
JdangerJ: folds
MONSTERKOEK: folds
toddanderson: raises $1.50 to $2
black666: raises $4 to $6
toddanderson: calls $4
*** FLOP *** [2h 5c Ad]
toddanderson: checks
black666: checks
*** TURN *** [2h 5c Ad] [2d]
toddanderson: bets $8
black666: calls $8
*** RIVER *** [2h 5c Ad 2d] [5h]
toddanderson: bets $17.50


Also, just so everyone knows, and I hate to disappoint anyone, but Bigred does actually play poker. Insane.

Stop tilting and play good poker!

I'm going to pull the 70% variance 30% playing poorly card out. I will admit I got "fancy" and used my image and they just showed up with the nuts. I maaaay make note that most 50NL/25NLers don't adjust as often as I think. But I know some still do, just a matter of finding out who. I definitely need to wait for showdowned hands though before making assumptions. Here are some hands for you ballas:

Sounds like more than variance to me.

i played some hands like shit but the majority are huge coolers/bad boards. getting pretty irritated

btw i am really stubborn which is a horrible trait for this game but for fuck's sake i don't want to be at these stakes anymore

POKERSTARS GAME #15331091551: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/02/16 - 17:25:45 (ET)
Table 'Aksnes' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: cuesoffury ($5.05 in chips)
Seat 2: toddanderson ($26 in chips)
Seat 3: JCAP04 ($15.90 in chips)
Seat 4: LOSEY 1 ($7.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Berg1980 ($25.40 in chips)
Seat 6: retsok12 ($24.40 in chips)
Berg1980: posts small blind $0.10
retsok12: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [8s 8h]
cuesoffury: calls $0.25
toddanderson: raises $1 to $1.25
JCAP04: folds
LOSEY 1: folds
Berg1980: calls $1.15
retsok12: folds
cuesoffury: folds
*** FLOP *** [5d 8d Ad]
Berg1980: checks
toddanderson: bets $2.50
Berg1980: raises $2.50 to $5
toddanderson: calls $2.50
*** TURN *** [5d 8d Ad] [6d]
Berg1980: bets $19.15 and is all-in
toddanderson: folds

someone comment no real reads

I would have gotten it all in on the flop. Even if they have the flush you have outs to fill up. If they chase the draw you're making it a mistake for them to do so.

3bet flop all day

yeah can't believe I actually folded that. Anyways, here is a hand vs. an aggro idiot:

POKERSTARS GAME #15353696013: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/02/17 - 15:46:54 (ET)
Table 'Gratia IV' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: cwayslim ($24.30 in chips)
Seat 2: Leffegnu ($29.55 in chips)
Seat 3: jeanman1 ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: Amazonik ($10 in chips)
Seat 5: r wulf ($11.70 in chips)
Seat 6: toddanderson ($37.60 in chips)
Leffegnu: posts small blind $0.10
jeanman1: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Ad Jd]
r wulf said, "thout so nh"
Amazonik: folds
r wulf: calls $0.25
toddanderson: raises $1 to $1.25
cwayslim: folds
Leffegnu: calls $1.15
jeanman1: folds
r wulf: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [2c 8d 4d]
Amazonik said, "you call with 6 5 ? wtf !"
Leffegnu: checks
r wulf: bets $1
toddanderson: raises $2.50 to $3.50
Leffegnu: folds
r wulf: calls $2.50
*** TURN *** [2c 8d 4d] [5s]
r wulf: bets $6.95 and is all-in
Amazonik leaves the table
toddanderson: calls $6.95

Fold was good on turn, shoulda got it in on flop though.

Dont mind that last one, but I'd like a better description than "aggro idiot". If he's aggro in a playing ATC kind of way you might be against something dumb like a pair of 4s.

haha yeah i'm just lazy. Not many hands but he was calling too much and chatting up a storm. Def. called way too much pre. Btw, bad variance is over and am back up like 5 buyins at 25nl in the past ~700 or so hands.

Not sure I like it if he's just playing too many hands unless he's been way too aggro postflop as well.

Let me guess, got your head right again? Nice stuff .

Alright so last hand I posted river doesn't give me any of my outs . But it's all good when he shows up with J high and rants.

Anyways, played some 50NL again today only 2 tabling. Went up a buyin quickly hitting a set + flopping a flush. I think I need work at this level extracting with a set. Flopped flush easily got in on the flop. After I got up a buyin I started spewing. Started bluffing ridiculously and some dude actually caught a bluff with bottom pair in a big pot. He was a reg. and I def. made note not to do this shit again. Then I had JJ and got 3bet, flop comes Kxx he leads half I RR he calls and I have to c/f his push on turn. I don't need help knowing how bad this play was as I really only fold out QQ and maaaybe TT if he does this, and of course even more rare, another JJ. So anyways I took a break, ate some lunch and came back to the 50NL tables determined. However this hand fucked me over. I can't fold here on turn can I? Also, is preflop OK given how we are a little deeper and there was a caller in front? No big reads on fenway but he did try bluffing me in an unraised pot which I picked off. That was our only hand played against each other and he wasn't involved much in other pots. No HUD stats.:

PokerStars Game #15378116777: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/02/18 - 15:45:53 (ET)
Table 'Tama IV' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: bonddonkey ($94.85 in chips)
Seat 2: AngryFinch ($49.25 in chips)
Seat 3: toddanderson ($57.80 in chips)
Seat 4: Azhriaz ($63.55 in chips)
Seat 5: XtremeRush ($54.05 in chips)
Seat 6: Fenwayman ($63.05 in chips)
Azhriaz: posts small blind $0.25
XtremeRush: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Td Jd]
Fenwayman: raises $2.50 to $3
bonddonkey: calls $3
AngryFinch: folds
toddanderson: calls $3
Azhriaz: folds
XtremeRush: folds
*** FLOP *** [3d 3h Ad]
Fenwayman: bets $2
bonddonkey: folds
toddanderson: calls $2
*** TURN *** [3d 3h Ad] [9d]
Fenwayman: bets $6
toddanderson: raises $9 to $15
Fenwayman: raises $43.05 to $58.05 and is all-in
toddanderson: calls $37.80 and is all-in

Hand seems fine to me. Stick with it man.

I played some cash last night. I sucked. I think I need to work table selection into my game. That and using the fold button.

yeah thanks...I lied I crushed in that hand haha. He called with AsQs. River was a diamond so you can assume how pissed/scared I was of results. BR is steadily moving back up.

2 coolers, sigh. One was vs. a maniac who bluffed me before when I had an overpair and I won a huge pot off of him. This time he actually hit a set as I hit an Ace with AK. Didn't get my whole stack thankfully. But then this:

PokerStars Game #15385130748: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/02/18 - 20:41:16 (ET)
Table 'Adrastea III' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: donrudo ($48.25 in chips)
Seat 2: wilson9ie9 ($51.20 in chips)
Seat 3: little_muc ($123.10 in chips)
Seat 4: lauren1525 ($41 in chips)
Seat 5: Marabunta20 ($78.40 in chips)
Seat 6: toddanderson ($53.70 in chips)
Marabunta20: posts small blind $0.25
toddanderson: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [2c 2h]
donrudo: folds
wilson9ie9: calls $0.50
little_muc: folds
lauren1525: calls $0.50
Marabunta20: calls $0.25
toddanderson: checks
*** FLOP *** [2d 6s 9s]
Marabunta20: checks
toddanderson: bets $1.50
wilson9ie9: folds
lauren1525: raises $2.50 to $4
Marabunta20: folds
toddanderson: raises $9 to $13
lauren1525: calls $9
*** TURN *** [2d 6s 9s] [Qd]
Marabunta20 leaves the table
toddanderson: bets $17
lauren1525: raises $10.50 to $27.50 and is all-in
toddanderson: calls $10.50
*** RIVER *** [2d 6s 9s Qd] [3d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
toddanderson: shows [2c 2h] (three of a kind, Deuces)
lauren1525: shows [6d 6h] (three of a kind, Sixes)
lauren1525 collected $80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $83 | Rake $3
Board [2d 6s 9s Qd 3d]
Seat 1: donrudo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: wilson9ie9 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: little_muc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: lauren1525 (button) showed [6d 6h] and won ($80) with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 5: Marabunta20 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: toddanderson (big blind) showed [2c 2h] and lost with three of a kind, Deuces

Blah. Been still playing and doing well but I hate this crap, esp. vs. same donk who bluffs like crazy:

1.PokerStars Game #15541958022: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/02/25 - 12:07:39 (ET)
Table 'Pyrrha' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: toddanderson ($58.40 in chips)
Seat 2: artesianborn ($33.15 in chips)
Seat 3: credag ($44.60 in chips)
Seat 4: j5ss5 ($25 in chips)
Seat 5: x"Marciano" ($11.50 in chips)
Seat 6: mYth123 ($58.90 in chips)
mYth123: posts small blind $0.25
toddanderson: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Ks Kd]
artesianborn: folds
credag: calls $0.50
j5ss5: calls $0.50
x"Marciano": calls $0.50
mYth123: folds
toddanderson: raises $3 to $3.50
credag: folds
j5ss5: folds
x"Marciano": raises $8 to $11.50 and is all-in
toddanderson: calls $8
*** FLOP *** [6c 8c 7d]
*** TURN *** [6c 8c 7d] [4c]
*** RIVER *** [6c 8c 7d 4c] [8s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
toddanderson: shows [Ks Kd] (two pair, Kings and Eights)
x"Marciano": shows [Jd 8d] (three of a kind, Eights)
x"Marciano" collected $23.05 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $24.25 | Rake $1.20
Board [6c 8c 7d 4c 8s]
Seat 1: toddanderson (big blind) showed [Ks Kd] and lost with two pair, Kings and Eights
Seat 2: artesianborn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: credag folded before Flop
Seat 4: j5ss5 folded before Flop
Seat 5: x"Marciano" (button) showed [Jd 8d] and won ($23.05) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 6: mYth123 (small blind) folded before Flop


2. PokerStars Game #15542185986: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/02/25 - 12:19:08 (ET)
Table 'Pyrrha' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: toddanderson ($65.30 in chips)
Seat 2: judgester ($7.20 in chips)
Seat 3: credag ($41.60 in chips)
Seat 4: j5ss5 ($29.40 in chips)
Seat 5: x"Marciano" ($37.95 in chips)
judgester: posts small blind $0.25
credag: posts big blind $0.50
nateb17: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [6c 6d]
j5ss5: raises $1.50 to $2
x"Marciano": calls $2
toddanderson: calls $2
judgester: folds
credag: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [Jc 8c 4d]
credag: checks
j5ss5: checks
x"Marciano": checks
toddanderson: checks
*** TURN *** [Jc 8c 4d] [6h]
credag: checks
j5ss5: bets $5
x"Marciano": calls $5
toddanderson: raises $13 to $18
credag: folds
j5ss5: folds
x"Marciano": calls $13
*** RIVER *** [Jc 8c 4d 6h] [Tc]
x"Marciano": bets $17.95 and is all-in
toddanderson: calls $17.95
*** SHOW DOWN ***
x"Marciano": shows [7d 9h] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
toddanderson: mucks hand
x"Marciano" collected $83.15 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $85.15 | Rake $2
Board [Jc 8c 4d 6h Tc]
Seat 1: toddanderson (button) mucked [6c 6d]
Seat 2: judgester (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: credag (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: j5ss5 folded on the Turn
Seat 5: x"Marciano" showed [7d 9h] and won ($83.15) with a straight, Seven to Jack

Man, those are brutal .

PokerStars Game #15616957014: Tournament #79018312, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (2000/4000) - 2008/02/28 - 17:06:52 (ET)
Table '79018312 6' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: HOLEEEN (21692 in chips)
Seat 4: toddanderson (248308 in chips)
HOLEEEN: posts the ante 400
toddanderson: posts the ante 400
HOLEEEN: posts small blind 2000
toddanderson: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Ac 9h]
HOLEEEN: raises 17292 to 21292 and is all-in
toddanderson: calls 17292
*** FLOP *** [9s 5h 6c]
toddanderson said, "hold"
*** TURN *** [9s 5h 6c] [7s]
*** RIVER *** [9s 5h 6c 7s] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
toddanderson: shows [Ac 9h] (a pair of Nines)
HOLEEEN: shows [5s Qc] (a pair of Fives)
toddanderson collected 43384 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 43384 | Rake 0
Board [9s 5h 6c 7s Tc]
Seat 3: HOLEEEN (button) (small blind) showed [5s Qc] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 4: toddanderson (big blind) showed [Ac 9h] and won (43384) with a pair of Nines


GG fucking FTR chatroom I <3 you. (shaz you da man for staying like the whole time)

Sweeeet!!!

Nice man, very nice! Grats .

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

awesome gj!!

TY guys! Quick session today playing 6max with FR mixed in (HI JIMMYMAC) and got this early on:
PokerStars Game #15632047657: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/02/29 - 09:40:35 (ET)
Table 'Nereid V' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: darekk75 ($24.95 in chips)
Seat 2: toddanderson ($49.50 in chips)
Seat 3: BIENBATI ($48.90 in chips)
Seat 4: 96_Hannes ($29.95 in chips)
Seat 5: wm007 ($23.90 in chips)
Seat 6: Swp403 ($46.05 in chips)
toddanderson: posts small blind $0.25
BIENBATI: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [As Ah]
96_Hannes: folds
wm007: folds
Swp403: raises $2 to $2.50
darekk75: calls $2.50
wm007 leaves the table
toddanderson: raises $6.50 to $9
BIENBATI: folds
Swp403: calls $6.50
darekk75: raises $15.95 to $24.95 and is all-in
toddanderson: raises $24.55 to $49.50 and is all-in
BIENBATI said, "LOL"
Swp403: calls $37.05 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [9s Ks Kd]
*** TURN *** [9s Ks Kd] [Jd]
*** RIVER *** [9s Ks Kd Jd] [9d]
chenwood joins the table at seat #5
*** SHOW DOWN ***
toddanderson: shows [As Ah] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
Swp403: mucks hand
toddanderson collected $42.20 from side pot
Swp403 leaves the table
darekk75: mucks hand
toddanderson collected $72.35 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $117.55 Main pot $72.35. Side pot $42.20. | Rake $3
Board [9s Ks Kd Jd 9d]
Seat 1: darekk75 (button) mucked [8s 8d]
Seat 2: toddanderson (small blind) showed [As Ah] and won ($114.55) with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 3: BIENBATI (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: 96_Hannes folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: wm007 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Swp403 mucked [Qd Qh]

sweet?


Edit: Even sweeter:

PokerStars Game #15633008328: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/02/29 - 10:41:18 (ET)
Table 'Agrius II' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: toluschev ($26.25 in chips)
Seat 2: toddanderson ($61.85 in chips)
Seat 3: Su dolor ($10.05 in chips)
Seat 4: Evilleone ($19.45 in chips)
Seat 5: skat tilt ($50 in chips)
Seat 6: A-Cad-22 ($64.10 in chips)
Seat 7: vinniepooh ($48 in chips)
Seat 8: Edvin2U ($19.65 in chips)
Seat 9: NayaKing ($115.75 in chips)
Evilleone: posts small blind $0.25
skat tilt: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Ks Qs]
A-Cad-22: folds
vinniepooh: folds
Edvin2U: folds
NayaKing: raises $1.50 to $2
toluschev: folds
toddanderson: calls $2
Su dolor: folds
Evilleone: calls $1.75
skat tilt: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ts Jh Ah]
Evilleone: bets $6.50
NayaKing: calls $6.50
toddanderson: raises $15.50 to $22
Evilleone: calls $10.95 and is all-in
NayaKing: calls $15.50
*** TURN *** [Ts Jh Ah] [7c]
NayaKing: checks
toddanderson: bets $37.85 and is all-in
NayaKing: calls $37.85
*** RIVER *** [Ts Jh Ah 7c] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
NayaKing: shows [Ac Jc] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
toddanderson: shows [Ks Qs] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
toddanderson collected $84.70 from side pot
Evilleone: mucks hand
toddanderson collected $55.95 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $143.65 Main pot $55.95. Side pot $84.70. | Rake $3
Board [Ts Jh Ah 7c Td]
Seat 1: toluschev folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: toddanderson showed [Ks Qs] and won ($140.65) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 3: Su dolor (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Evilleone (small blind) mucked [As Kh]
Seat 5: skat tilt (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: A-Cad-22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: vinniepooh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Edvin2U folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: NayaKing showed [Ac Jc] and lost with two pair, Aces and Jacks

I like FR, did well for my first real try.

Why cant I get those hands? AA everyone folds to a std raise, and if I hit a straight someone hits a flush .


Man, hand 1 those K's had me cringing...

Originally Posted by bjsaust

Why cant I get those hands? AA everyone folds to a std raise, and if I hit a straight someone hits a flush .


Man, hand 1 those K's had me cringing...

haha, I spoke too soon though. I got AA again and stacked someone and was like wtf I am owning lately...and then of course I get it again but AA<KK all in on flop (I have been slowplayed to death today for some reason) and he runner runnered a straight. GG me.

Weeeee I actually had a goal but never posted it and I finally, after like 2 years, completed it. That said I had to take out some of my roll, so I was basically rolled for 100NL but will be grinding again at 50NL. I am happy!

Alright bad variance hitting me pretty hard right now. May drop down to 25NL for a little bit, though still rolled for 50NL. I want to increase more tables, talk to people more about poker and get sweated from who I think as of my coach. It's spring break and I have very little to do as of now so I hope to get a lot of hands in.

[quote]get sweated from who I think as of my coach[/coach]

No worries, look me up on msn when you want me there!

.

One thing I've decided is to minimize irc while grinding and not chat. Just another distraction I dont need. In fact I think I'll be spending less time in there in general.

yeah good points, they can be a big distraction. Can't wait for your coaching sessions to start again

That said, I actually got offered to be sweated by a couple 200NLers as well as my "coach" who is even higher so I cannot thank those people enough if they read this. I HOPE to log in a bunch of hands this week. Played some 25NL short stacking just for the hell of it and did pretty well. I'm not going to continue this but just wanted to try it out.

Originally Posted by kmind

I actually got offered to be sweated by a couple 200NLers as well as my "coach" who is even higher

Thats awesome news, hope you get a lot out of it .

I actually may be somewhat busy the next few days but I am playing 6k hands in the next 4 days. Yeah that's not a lot at all but I need something to get me playing more and more.

How many tables do you play? How long per session?

I'm struggling to get anywhere near the hands in that I want to playing 4-tables.

Just played a couple sessions of 8 tabling, only like a little +1k hands in. I'm ok with 8-tabling 25nl, won't be doing much 50nl for now. Each session is really dependent on what all I have going on. It sucks but I live with a roomate/friends near me so I "have" to leave my sessions a lot to do some stuff. I suggest adding a table after awhile and seeing if you can maintain the same focus as 4. And continuing the process. Tried finding you on MSN earlier .

I also sweated my coach today which went well, many standard plays. A chance I will get sweated by him or that other group later tonight so I can only hope. Anyways, here are my nitty stats so far:

Finished my day alright. Had a dumb misclick that cost me about $7 and then someone hit their gutshot as I hit 2pair. I might post hands in the morning but kind of tired now. Got sweated by a friend and it really helped a lot.

Only played like 150 hands today...had a HUGE calling station which really helped. Up over a buyin at 25nl but not too happy, I need to start playing 50nl, I am definitely rolled. Kind of busy today but hopefully will be able to get a good chunk of hands in later tonight.

should I fire another barrel somewhere?:
http://www.pokerhand.org/?2262865


Vs. same guy
http://www.pokerhand.org/?2262887

Is he the calling station? 2nd hand looks that way. If so, why are you trying to bluff him?

Yeah, my bad, that is the calling station. I was going more for a semi-bluff knowing I get paid very heavily if I hit. However, I really thought he'd fold bottom pair. When I miss everything I don't know if I should fire again on river. Not sure if I'll be able to play tonight now which sucks because I'm itching to play again.

He's a calling station. You'll get paid big if you hit regardless. Thats what makes them fun.

I dont get what you're thinking here. Dont bluff a calling station. They call. Thats what they do. Thats why we call them calling stations. Hit TP and get paid, or check it down and get away cheap. These guys are the easy ones to play man.