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  1. #1

    Default Operation 2NL

    Hi,

    This operation will track my progress in 2NL the most micro micro stake and hopefully end when I am rolled for 5NL.

    Bio thingy:

    Deposited $60 in January and donked most of it off playing SNGs over a few months. Sometime in March I decided to take my last $9 and play cash games because they had lower variance and I could stop when I wanted. So, after full tilt's take 2 promo and added bonus (adding $30 to my roll) and 24,500 hands playing a mix of a mix of 2NL and 5NL I have $48.82 as a bankroll (24 buy ins for 2NL).

    Goals:
    • Become a better poker player.
    • Develop poker skillz.
    • Pwn donks better.
    • Have a full and in depth understanding of the game theoretical concepts that govern decision making in poker.
    • Add more tables.


    Rules:

    • No breaking bankroll management rules -> only 2NL untill my BR is above $100
    • Stop looking at the cashier and PT3 while playing-> be less results oriented.
    • Don't play when tired/tilted.
    • Post hands in this thread every other day and post graphs and current BR once a week.
    • Put opponent on a god damn range.



    I will post my graph so far for all the hands I have ever played in cash games to kick off the thread if I can figure out how...

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    Okay, not a complete train wreck of a graph but pretty crap nonetheless.
  3. #3
    Okay, first hand in this thread! Villain is a short stacking drooler who open limps almost atc and shoves very wide. pre flop {Ax, Kxs, Qxs, Jxs, 22-99, no big broadways as he would raise these}, flop not much changes - he may have a ten but a lot of his range also comprises of A high bluffs and small pps maybe scs that caught the 2h, turn - I concluded that if he had a ten he would bet the size of the pot or less rather than shove because shoving quad tens is ridiculously stupid and something even a drooler like this is unlikely to do so I made the call with my full house and hoped to catch the favourable end of his range.

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    MP2 ($3.76)
    MP3 ($2.07)
    CO ($1.08)
    Button ($2)
    SB ($0.92)
    Hero (BB) ($2)
    UTG ($1.60)
    UTG+1 ($2.78)
    MP1 ($1.92)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 9
    5 folds, CO calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero checks

    Flop: ($0.05) 10, 10, 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $0.11, Hero calls $0.11

    Turn: ($0.27) 10 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $0.95 (All-In), Hero calls $0.95

    River: ($2.17) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Total pot: $2.17 | Rake: $0.14

    Results below:
    Hero had 9d 9s.
    CO had Kd 7d.
    Outcome: Hero won $2.03






    Villain is 37/4 with 7 3bet% - likes to open limp and limp behind. Pre flop calling range {ATs+,AJ+, KTs+, KJ+, QJs, JTs, 22-TT}, flop stacking off range is {AQ, AK, KQ, AJd, ATd, 33} so I am ahead of most of his range assuming he wouldn't flat KK or QQ pre flop.

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    SB ($2)
    BB ($2)
    UTG ($2)
    UTG+1 ($0.78)
    Hero (MP1) ($2.94)
    MP2 ($2.43)
    CO ($2.64)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, Q
    2 folds, Hero bets $0.08, 1 fold, CO calls $0.08, 3 folds

    Flop: ($0.19) 3, K, Q (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.12, CO raises to $0.24, Hero raises to $1, CO raises to $1.76, Hero raises to $2.86 (All-In), CO calls $0.80 (All-In)

    Turn: ($5.31) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($5.31) 10 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $5.31 | Rake: $0.35

    Results below:
    Hero had Kh Qh.
    CO had Kc Ah (one pair, Kings).
    Outcome: Hero won $4.96
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    Hi Frj good luck,

    hand 1: you're just inviting variance into your game with this type of play at 2nl, the droolers will still drool when you're well ahead of their range as when you're behind. Nice read but you don't need to making these hero calls at 2nl your only beating a bluff.

    hand 2: I like the way you played this, nice bet sizing, and got the money in on the flop, nh sir!
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    Hey, GL @ 2nl.

    Don't worry bout the graph...that's just you starting to work out the bugs, my first month looked like the grand canyon.

    H1: I would hope that any pp>99 from the co would be raising pre, since he just called his range is gonna be pretty wide. I can understand wanting to just check to try for set mining but you'll be oop the whole hand and you're ahead of most of his range - raise to 4xbb, if he 3bets then I might call since he's that big of a drooler but normally I'd drop it.
    Otf I'd try to define the hand by either leading out (donking) the flop or a c/r to about 3.5x his bet. c/r>donk>c/c imo.
    As played the turn's a call. I can't see laying down the top FH (assuming no JJ+ due to preflop action) without a great read that he's got quads.

    H2: pretty std...NH
  6. #6
    Hi guys,

    Thanks for the input! Given me a few things to think about...

    I am pretty psyched for this op so I will have more updates soon. No poker today so far as I have been moving back home from uni for the summer but I will get some in tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckySlevin View Post
    Hi Frj good luck,

    hand 1: you're just inviting variance into your game with this type of play at 2nl... Nice read but you don't need to making these hero calls at 2nl your only beating a bluff.
    this hand is a very standard call on the turn. oh yeah and raise pre/bet flop
  8. #8
    Villain was 61/30 over 23 hands and not at all positionally aware so a bit of a drooler all in all. I am not sure how well I played this. Pre flop he has a huge range which is pretty much any two suited connected cards, pocket pairs, any ace, any king, probably not high broadways or high pps. Flop check raise indicated a lot of strangth, I put him on a range something like this {77, 88, 99, 56, TJ, 78, 79, 89, A9, A8, A7, two low clubs, possibly Acx} I thought that he must be ahead but if I made the flush then I would stack him most of the time so calling the check raise made sense at the time. Calling the half pot sized bet on the turn also made sense to me as it gave me more outs against some of his range as well as putting me ahead of some of his range (the only thing that concerned me were my implied odds as this only left him with $0.88 in his stack) I don't think his range changes much here. River- I made the flush and called his AI which was the plan from the flop. If I hadn't made the flush and the river blanked then I probably would have layed it down.

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    CO ($2.04)
    Button ($4.93)
    SB ($2.47)
    BB ($2.23)
    UTG ($1.34)
    UTG+1 ($2.62)
    MP1 ($2.84)
    MP2 ($1.28)
    Hero (MP3) ($2.37)

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J, K
    UTG calls $0.02, 3 folds, Hero bets $0.06, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.04

    Flop: ($0.15) 7, 9, 8 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $0.08, UTG raises to $0.16, Hero calls $0.08

    Turn: ($0.47) K (2 players)
    UTG bets $0.24, Hero calls $0.24

    River: ($0.95) Q (2 players)
    UTG bets $0.88 (All-In), Hero calls $0.88

    Total pot: $2.71 | Rake: $0.18

    Results below:
    UTG had 10s Ah (not in the range I gave him but you have to love these little surprises at 2NL - just another "what the fuck?!?!?!" moment)
    Hero had Js Kc
    Outcome: Hero won $2.53
  9. #9
    Villain is 15/7 over 40 hands so he is really nitty for 2NL. Opening with AKs UTG is pretty standard. C-bet on scary looking flop is also okay as much of his range will have missed but when he calls the flop it is pretty clear that he has a hand that he is willing to go all the way with so looking back on this the double barrel is never going to work. Have to make less mistakes of this kind of nature as it is costing me $$$$

    I think the turn was a big error, maybe not at higher stakes where people are more likely to float the flop but def at 2NL. What do you think?

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    CO ($1.35)
    Button ($1.37)
    SB ($2.56)
    BB ($3.02)
    Hero (UTG) ($2.28)
    UTG+1 ($1.92)
    MP1 ($2)
    MP2 ($3.60)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, A
    Hero bets $0.08, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.08, 6 folds

    Flop: ($0.19) Q, 10, Q (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.12, MP1 calls $0.12

    Turn: ($0.43) 8 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25

    River: ($0.93) 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP1 bets $0.54, Hero folds

    Total pot: $0.93 | Rake: $0.06
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    Hi frjd,

    To be honest oop I prefer checking this flop, you say alot of his range could have missed, but consider how many hands co-ordinate with that board, combo's of : TJ, JQ, AQ, QK, 9T. add to those, all the combo's of flush draws, (for which you have no blockers) - I doubt JJ is going anywhere, which really only puts lower pp's in his range and he's likely folding these to your cbet. With your overcards to the paired flop, and gutshot, if he does have a low pair, you have decent equity.

    Personally I'd check the flop, let him stab and call one street.

    I quite like: c/c flop, c/f turn unimproved.
  11. #11
    Villain 11.5/5 over 70 hands.

    Okay, the limp behind from the button isn't something that I would normally do with this but I felt like experimenting a bit. Calling the min raise is pretty standard as I think I had the right odds to call. Calling the flop min bet is okay too as again I have big odds, same goes for the turn and the 3/4psb on the end when I make two pair is okay too.

    Pre flop his range must be fairly wide as he doesn't have the confidence in his hand to make a full bet {22+, Suited Broadways, Axs, Kxs, no big broadways}

    Flop, min bet range??? {Missed broadways, Qx maybe, possibly sets but surely he would have played these faster}

    Turn still I don't revise his range much as he is min betting. Same on river.

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    BB ($4.66)
    UTG ($2.14)
    UTG+1 ($0.97)
    MP1 ($3.27)
    MP2 ($2.69)
    CO ($0.82)
    Hero (Button) ($2.08)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 9, J
    UTG calls $0.02, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.02, 1 fold, BB bets $0.04, UTG calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.02

    Flop: ($0.13) Q, 7, J (3 players)
    BB bets $0.02, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.02

    Turn: ($0.17) 5 (2 players)
    BB bets $0.02, Hero calls $0.02

    River: ($0.21) 9 (2 players)
    BB bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.16, BB calls $0.14

    Total pot: $0.53 | Rake: $0.03

    Results below:
    Hero had 9c Jc
    BB had 7c 7d ( I made a note on him that he min bets strong hands but still I didn't see this coming at all as it just made no sense...)
    Outcome: BB won $0.50


    How do you put a min bet monkey on a range? This kind of play perplexes me partly because it is retarded and partly because I can't really see any way of narrowing someone's range when they just min bet every street...
  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by LuckySlevin View Post

    I quite like: c/c flop, c/f turn unimproved.
    You make a good argument for this line. To be honest I have mainly been b/folding on the flop but this tends to be spewy oop when I fire a second barrel against a calling station or someone like this who probably has a decent hand.

    This hand is pretty interesting. From what I have seen UTG is very loose 60/40 over 25 hands and Button is reasonably tight 13/13 over 25 hands. So UTG's range is probably full of small pps Axs, Kxs and maybe some suited connectors as I assume he is minbetting with these kind of hands. Button is probably on something strong as he has 3bet so maybe {AQ+, AJs+, KQs, TT+} something like that. I hit bottom set but check as I am wary of a set over set situation with the UTG player and maybe I will get value if he checks and Button fires a c-bet with missed part of his range. UTG checks and Button fires which is good as I can worry less about UTG having an overset now. UTG calls behind and another 4 falls. I turn quads but don't want to bet here as my opponents are probably drawing dead and I am not risking anything by giving a free card (although they may not know it/ this board only really has full house/quad possibilities so is quite dangerous) and may fold to my aggression with this turn. I also want to get value from either a passively played set/small pair that wants to steal or something random from UTG or another barrel from button. Unfortunately they both check behind and the river comes a blank. I decide that I have to bet and if they both fold then that just sucks but betting is the only way to get the money in now so I go for a nice half psb that may look like a steal attempt while covering UTG and has a good chance of being called/shoved over if UTG folds but probably wont be called if UTG calls.



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    BB ($2.67)
    UTG ($0.80)
    MP1 ($2.03)
    MP2 ($1.94)
    CO ($2.17)
    Button ($3.41)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 4, 4
    UTG bets $0.04, 3 folds, Button raises to $0.12, Hero calls $0.11, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.08

    Flop: ($0.38) 4, 10, 8 (3 players)
    Hero checks, UTG checks, Button bets $0.19, Hero calls $0.19, UTG calls $0.19

    Turn: ($0.95) 4 (3 players)
    Hero checks, UTG checks, Button checks

    River: ($0.95) 7 (3 players)
    Hero bets $0.50, UTG calls $0.49 (All-In), 1 fold

    Total pot: $1.93 | Rake: $0.12

    Results below:
    Hero had 4h 4s.
    UTG had 7d 7s.
    Outcome: Hero won $1.81
    Last edited by frjd2; 05-29-2011 at 11:23 AM.
  13. #13
    you flop a set in a 3bet pot , I'd donk this flop about .30 as we are 100bb deep with 3betting btn. Hopefully he'll raise with his AA KK overpairs and if he does we can either call his raise or shove.Checking the turn lets him try and see cards for free , you have the nuts , make him pay to see some more cards. As it turned out he got to see the river for free and folded , you took the shorties money,when you should have been going after both their stacks.
  14. #14
    Has been a pretty stressful week and unfortunately I have hardly played any poker. Hopefully I can squeeze a couple thousand hands in this week...
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    gl best to play when you're in right frame of mind, hope you have a less stressful week next week!

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