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  1. #1
    Betatesting anti-tagfish counterplays:


    3betting non-nut hands:

    #1:
    Two blockers against 4bet range, taggy had high fold3bet stat, late position, high chance his PFR is just iso-raise.

    flop plan: c-bet one broadway boards (Axx-Jxx) and hit boards, stackoff on safe TP and JTx boards.

    Boss Media (IPN) No-Limit Hold'em, €0.10 BB (10 handed) - BossMedia Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com



    #2: Pretty rare play, 3betting EP raiser by when I'm in EP too. Tight opener, very straightforward vs 3bets (will 4bet KK+, flat maybe AKs, capable of folding mid pairs pre, doesn't stackoff light even in 3bet pots). I could flat pre, but I don't want more callers behind and bad relative position, and my watch indicated it's time to mix up so I 3bet smallish, to get call from all PP's and AK which will checkfold most missed boards. If I hit pair, I go pot control mode, unless it's QJ/QT, then I'll protect against AK by bet/folding flop, and stacking off turn, if blank falls and he open checks.

    Boss Media (IPN) No-Limit Hold'em, €0.10 BB (10 handed) - BossMedia Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (CO) (€10.70)
    BB (€9.94)
    UTG (€13.36)
    UTG+1 (€10.34)
    UTG+2 (€1.67)
    MP1 (€9.65)
    MP2 (€10.15)
    MP3 (€8.11)
    Button (€13.58)
    SB (€14.17)



    Total pot: €0.95 | Rake: €0

    #4: Tagfish regs open widish preflop, isi-raise even wider, call a bit more deep, but when don't hit hard, they turn weaktight on expensive streets.
    His range on flop: mid PP's, draws (I believe he calls all his suited connectors vs my "obvious AA"), on turn he folds all weak pairs, non-combo draws and maybe even QQ, raises/calls 2p or better. EZ double barrel?

    [Boss Media (IPN) No-Limit Hold'em, €0.10 BB (10 handed) - BossMedia Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB (€22.16)
    Hero (Button) (€19.95)
    SB (€8.59)
    UTG+1 (€18.25)
    UTG+2 (€11.37)
    UTG (€10.47)
    MP1 (€9.91)
    MP2 (€19.54)
    MP3 (€26)
    CO (€21.65)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 3, K
    2 folds, UTG+2 calls €0.10, 2 folds, MP3 calls €0.10, CO bets €0.60, Hero raises to €1.40, 4 folds, CO calls €1.40

    Flop: (€3.15) 2, 3, 10 (2 players)
    CO checks, Hero bets €2.10, CO calls €2.10

    Turn: (€7.35) 8 (2 players)
    CO checks, Hero bets €4.70, 1 fold

    Total pot: €7.35 | Rake: €0.36


    #3, Tagfish, opens a lot, folds a lot to 3bets, when calls, usually plays poorly postflop. "3bet, float or just fold" hand, but I like floating more when I have BTN, so this time, instead of usual muck pre, I decided to 3bet. With his high % fold to 3bets, it should show profit in a vacuum.

    Hero (CO) (€10.70)
    BB (€9.94)
    UTG (€13.36)
    UTG+1 (€10.34)
    UTG+2 (€1.67)
    MP1 (€9.65)
    MP2 (€10.15)
    MP3 (€8.11)
    Button (€13.58)
    SB (€14.17)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 7
    3 folds, MP1 bets €0.40, 2 folds, Hero raises to €1.20, 4 folds

    Total pot: €0.95 | Rake: €0


    #5: Poor 3bet by me, villain was way to tight. Even when he continues only with big pairs, I can't bluff here, because with his low PFR and EP he has big pair like 50% of the time. Not enough for bluffing (I need about 65% fold% in vacuum) and flopped TP doesn't have much value postflop against him.

    Boss Media (IPN) No-Limit Hold'em, €0.10 BB (8 handed) - BossMedia Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (CO) (€12.93)
    Button (€9.85)
    SB (€10)
    UTG (€11.49)
    BB (€10)
    UTG+1 (€9.57)
    MP1 (€10)
    MP2 (€14.48)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with K, Q
    1 fold, UTG+1 bets €0.30, MP1 calls €0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to €1.20, 3 folds, UTG+1 raises to €3.40, 2 folds

    Total pot: €2.85 | Rake: €0

    With hands I put my thought processes, if you find flaws in my thinking, I'd be glad to get some feedback.
    Last edited by Vrax; 09-25-2010 at 08:41 PM.
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
  2. #2
    Ready to barrel blank river:

    Boss Media (IPN) No-Limit Hold'em, €0.10 BB (9 handed) - BossMedia Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB (€9.90)
    UTG (€9.65)
    MP1 (€9)
    MP2 (€19.34)
    MP3 (€3.67)
    Hero (Button) (€12.98)
    SB (€7.10)
    UTG+1 (€2)
    CO (€15.09)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 3, 5
    2 folds, MP1 bets €0.30, 3 folds, Hero calls €0.30, 1 fold, BB calls €0.30

    Flop: (€0.95) 9, Q, A (3 players)
    BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks

    Turn: (€0.95) Q (3 players)
    BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets €0.70, 2 folds

    Total pot: €0.95 | Rake: €0.04
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy

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