Harley Gets His Grind on!

Wow totally digging all the help offered up guys thank you so very much. Unfortunately I didn't see them all until I got home from work and mixed myself a VERY STIFF drink. So I promise you I will be reviewing all your suggestion when I am in a better state of mind. As there are several different opinions and I'm confident none are wrong just different. All I can assure you are so very appreciated!

FUCK I'M BUZZZZZZED!

@Bbickes

Originally Posted by Sasquach991

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Try this for one session:

I know Harley has trouble with tilt and folding post flop. I think doing this for one session will help with both.

Planning the hand pre flop is bad advice? I have small pp so I plan to play for set value. Axs so I plan for two pair, flush, str8 and I will not bloat the pot with TPWK. This is a bad idea? I should wait til flop to plan? Don't I need to know why I'm in the hand to begin with?

So if Harley gets in a tough spot he should call? raise? I think that's what he's doing now and losing and tilting. Shouldn't he fold and post the hand in the forums for now?

3betting AA, KK only was for one session.

IMO, forcing yourself to take notes (even in standard hands) keeps you paying attention.

@ Harley

I guess you should ignore my advice but maybe it got you thinking some.

Originally Posted by Sasquach991

@ Harley

I guess you should ignore my advice but maybe it got you thinking some.

Buddy your advice is very much appreciated as is everybody's! You've made some very good points and yes caused me to think a lot. Please keep it coming.

I really thought this through but it was tough! I found myself thinking ok what do I really have beaten here, how does this hit villains etc. I knew ZaleckiNLG was a TAG and positionally aware and I hadn't seen anything from him that led me to think he was going to be doing this with anything less than AK or a set.

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
7 Players
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Stacks:
UTG PAVB8 ($4.85)
UTG+1 tripletdad1 ($2.50)
MP ZaleckiNLG ($5.20)
CO Malaka_Jay ($1.75)
BTN Hero ($5.11)
SB ched chedios ($5.61)
BB chefin01 ($1.74)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 7 players) Hero is BTN
1 fold, tripletdad1 calls $0.05, ZaleckiNLG raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.20, ched chedios calls $0.18, 1 fold, tripletdad1 calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.85, 4 players)
ched chedios bets $0.40, tripletdad1 calls $0.40, ZaleckiNLG raises to $2.25, Hero folds, ched chedios calls $1.85, tripletdad1 folds

Turn: ($5.75, 2 players)
ched chedios checks, ZaleckiNLG checks

River: ($5.75, 2 players)
ched chedios goes all-in $3.16, ZaleckiNLG goes all-in $2.75

Final Pot: $11.66
ZaleckiNLG shows three of a kind, Fours

ched chedios shows high card Ace


ZaleckiNLG wins $10.71 (net +$5.51)

ched chedios collects $0.41 (net -$5.20)
tripletdad1 lost $0.60
Hero lost $0.20

So I didn't want to chase both off so I thought "Hey a min type bet ought to hide this well!" I did have some concern with the flush draw and now in hindsight maybe a big raise just may have pushed him of his weak flush draw? Small sample on villain 19/11. I'm good enough to do all the math live but I was pretty confident I had enough equity for the call although the river bet sure felt like a value bet!

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
9 Players
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Stacks:
UTG bbb1977 ($4)
UTG+1 JMMaga ($4.93)
MP1 Herr_Castor ($1.93)
MP2 ilast ($3.62)
MP3 akumuu ($12.50)
CO Hero ($5.47)
BTN dexteriti ($5.02)
SB mindspyak ($3.97)
BB Recover987 ($6.46)

Pre-Flop: ($0.12, 9 players) Hero is CO
[bbb1977 posts $0.05]
bbb1977 checks, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, 2 folds, Recover987 calls $0.20, bbb1977 calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.77, 3 players)
Recover987 bets $0.20, bbb1977 calls $0.20, Hero raises to $0.45, Recover987 calls $0.25, bbb1977 folds

Turn: ($1.87, 2 players)
Recover987 checks, Hero bets $0.90, Recover987 calls $0.90

River: ($3.67, 2 players)
Recover987 bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

Final Pot: $4.47
Recover987 shows a flush, Queen high

Hero shows


Recover987 wins $4.26 (net +$2.26)

bbb1977 lost $0.45
Hero lost $2


So I'm posting these while I'm grinding and it's just easier to not worry about results would you prefer I take the time to remove results?

Short morning session went ok = 288 hands at 15.97bb/100. Going to post position stats just cuz I wanna work on them.

So I didn't want to chase both off so I thought "Hey a min type bet ought to hide this well!"

Harley, ffs plz stop thinking like this, and start thinking "Hey, how much can I milk these morans who can't fold flush draws?" When it comes to you on the flop, the chances of one of these guys having a FD is fairly decent. A larger raise may fold out like 66 or something, but you're missing a ton of value from worse queens that may slow down on a 3rd club or flush draws.

Not extracting proper value from microfeesh is probably a big reason why you've been stagnating in the micros for too long.

Originally Posted by d0zer

Harley, ffs plz stop thinking like this, and start thinking "Hey, how much can I milk these morans who can't fold flush draws?"

+1 this is a horrible way to think about pokers

Originally Posted by d0zer

Harley, ffs plz stop thinking like this, and start thinking "Hey, how much can I milk these morans who can't fold flush draws?" When it comes to you on the flop, the chances of one of these guys having a FD is fairly decent. A larger raise may fold out like 66 or something, but you're missing a ton of value from worse queens that may slow down on a 3rd club or flush draws.

Not extracting proper value from microfeesh is probably a big reason why you've been stagnating in the micros for too long.

Originally Posted by Bbickes

+1 this is a horrible way to think about pokers

Points taken gentlemen. I knew I was going to get zapped for my stupidity on this one.

AhQh on AJ4tt - folding TP2K and you made/saved yourself a buyin. NH.
AhQh on QQ3tt - raise way bigger on that flop. Villain isn't folding flush draws, nor Qx. As it is you give direct pot odds to draw to the flush. Raise to like, $1 - $1.3 or something. River call is obviously fine getting 10:1

At first I was all proud of this hand but part of me wonders was this actually wreckless because I really didn't even pause much throughout the hand. I can't say I ever put villain on a range. I was all "OMG... I gotz top two and it's so fucking pretty". I believe this is the shit that gets me in trouble over and over again!

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
8 Players
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Stacks:
UTG blackden4ik ($5.46)
UTG+1 polcop ($12.45)
MP1 External12 ($3.95)
MP2 sebachoclo ($3.33)
CO Hero ($5.99)
BTN 6u3oH Denis ($3.95)
SB Exalli ($6.85)
BB nokiaa365 ($12.94)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 8 players) Hero is CO
2 folds, External12 calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.25, 3 folds, External12 calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.57, 2 players)
External12 checks, Hero bets $0.42, External12 calls $0.42

Turn: ($1.41, 2 players)
External12 checks, Hero bets $1.05, External12 calls $1.05

River: ($3.51, 2 players)
External12 checks, Hero goes all-in $4.27, External12 goes all-in $2.23

Final Pot: $10.01
External12 shows a pair of Aces

Hero shows two pair, Aces and Kings


Hero wins $9.62 (net +$3.63)

External12 lost $3.95

Obviously it turned out fine but that is really just being results oriented which I need to stop doing. I need to be in control enough to work through EVERY hand period.

Along those same lines I need to stick to a plan. I can honestly tell you that my typical plan only last until I'm either up a couple bi's or down a couple bi's. If I am up then I figure "Hell I am the big stack here and these little stack must show me respect damn it!" Or "OMFG........I have to tighten up like a mother fucker!" Instead of trusting my original plan. Hey the mother fucker made sense when I devised it so why not stick to the damn thing?

So I have a plan which I will be sticking to throughout the remainder of this month. The plan is to plan simple ABC full ring poker. I have a short series of videos from Deuces Cracked which is called "To be a nit or not?" I will watch it several times in the next day or two. I watched the first two last night. Only the first two deal with ABC Poker so I'll really only be watching them for now. I'll post the basic starting hand charts to get your feed back. I know many of you are going to hate the amount of limping called for within this plan but I think while it may not be optimum it's a pretty solid program to get myself back on track and rebuild my foundation.



My hopes are that I can accomplish several things with this plan:

• Rebuild bankroll which has taken a nasty hit over the last month.
• Rebuild a good solid foundation which to build my poker skills.
• Develop the discipline to stick with a plan and stay focused on my game.
• Start enjoying the damn game again!

Your comments and or suggestion would be appreciated as usual.

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I'll certainly never advocate you auto-piloting, not thinking about ranges, but that hand is super standard. You're beat by a few sets and are crushing a billion combos of 1 and 2pr.

god i hate charts.

interesting little hand earlier in your blog when you lead Ace turn with ace high flush draw, i'll have to remember the right line myself from the comments

Charts promote you to stop thinking. Thinking is good.

I think we talked about this before. At this level you play poker for a challenge not the money. But, by using charts and other standard lines without thinking about those around you, your are playing like that 18 year old who wants to make enough money for jimmy johns (tasty, but w/e).

Being harsh to make my point. I think charts are good at the very beginning of poker where you still have problems knowing what beats what. But, it still feels like you are trying to make "easy" money from poker. As they say, poker is the hardest easy money around......

Also, I never open limp, except when I do. But that is reserved for extremely special cases like. Some guy has been pushing all in after limpers, then I will obv open limp AA.

Even at 5nl not all pots go to flop without a raise. And I am pretty sure that if you open limp with 22 and there is a std 4x raise you call it. But now you have to make 40bb on the hand ON AVERAGE. Think about that. That means the raiser has to hit TP or be loldumb, in the meantime you have to avoid getting stacked by flushes and the rare (but happening higher set. Sure I use 10x vs 8.5x (your true odds but math stay fairly the same).

But good luck man. Just think, that's why you are playing right? To win the game by thinking.

-!luck

AK hand super standard. nh.
also

Originally Posted by Bbickes

god i hate charts.

I also hate open limping

Here is a spot that I find myself wonder. Since he didn't raise me he more likely than not doesn't have an A so should I have c/c or c/r'd.

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
9 Players
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Stacks:
UTG Hero ($4.98)
UTG+1 lexasa1233 ($5.16)
MP1 Wingco75 ($16.27)
MP2 tina931 ($13.67)
MP3 WiredKJ ($2.74)
CO TIS67 ($2.87)
BTN gromitero ($7.26)
SB Alexander89s ($5)
BB tttdad ($5.46)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 9 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Wingco75 calls $0.20, 6 folds

Flop: ($0.47, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.34, Wingco75 folds

Final Pot: $0.81

Hero wins $0.79 (net +$0.25)

Wingco75 lost $0.20

Originally Posted by HarleyGuy13

Here is a spot that I find myself wonder. Since he didn't raise me he more likely than not doesn't have an A so should I have c/c or c/r'd.

why would you check-raise QQ on AJ3 ?
check-call, check-fold, bet-fold are all ok depending on about a million things
your flop c-bet sizing is pretty inefficient

Daven talk to me about the bet size. Should it have been larger like pot size? Or smaller like 1/2 pot?

Had a decent session this morning other than giving supahaole a stack on a stupid semi-bluff. I perceived him as playing back at me on my blind stealing so after like the third time and catching 2nd pair I just knew he was fucking with me. NOT he had it. Well guess if you're going to spew might as well be to a fellow FTR mate!

GG Harley. You we're on the right track, just bad timing. I 3bet your steal with T7o the orbit before that.

This fell was so proud of himself. He had made several stupid bluffs prior.

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
7 Players
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Stacks:
UTG mp0000 ($8.86)
UTG+1 SunshineElis ($1.61)
MP Hero ($9.53)
CO dial75 ($1.77)
BTN wildride726 ($5.48)
SB elastikos ($6.05)
BB Llewella ($5)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 7 players) Hero is MP
mp0000 calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.25, 4 folds, mp0000 calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.57, 2 players)
mp0000 checks, Hero bets $0.50, mp0000 calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.57, 2 players)
mp0000 goes all-in $8.11, Hero calls $8.11

River: ($17.79, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $17.79
mp0000 shows a straight, Four to Eight

Hero shows three of a kind, Jacks


mp0000 wins $16.91 (net +$8.05)

Hero lost $8.86

such a cool game!

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
8 Players
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Stacks:
UTG nik433 ($4)
UTG+1 Hero ($5.01)
MP1 MyDrinkOn ($4.55)
MP2 Antony Dark ($1.86)
CO BeRtZoky ($5.04)
BTN zvitko ($6.85)
SB ACEvivKING ($5.46)
BB elastikos ($5.39)

Pre-Flop: ($0.12, 8 players) Hero is UTG+1
[nik433 posts $0.05]
nik433 checks, Hero raises to $0.25, MyDrinkOn calls $0.25, 1 fold, BeRtZoky calls $0.25, 3 folds, nik433 folds

Flop: ($0.87, 3 players)
Hero bets $0.70, MyDrinkOn goes all-in $4.30, BeRtZoky folds, Hero calls $3.60

Turn: ($9.47, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($9.47, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Hero says "nh"

Final Pot: $9.47
Hero shows two pair, Kings and Nines

MyDrinkOn shows three of a kind, Nines


MyDrinkOn wins $9 (net +$4.45)

nik433 lost $0.05
Hero lost $4.55
BeRtZoky lost $0.25

Wow doesn't take to many of these type of hands to fuck up a short 200 hand session. Fighting like made to keep my chin up. Stopped playing after these two fucking hands put my dick in the dirt. I didn't so much tilt as I know I got it in good on both hands but I knew obviously the poker gods weren't going to be look after me this morning. Going to do some studying later after I get to work and get my shit done there.

so, i read that you're gonna study - here's a suggestion

Originally Posted by HarleyGuy13

Daven talk to me about the bet size. Should it have been larger like pot size? Or smaller like 1/2 pot?

post the hand in bc with a question on c-bet sizing
post the sizing you think makes sense, and your reasoning.

Good idea daven but no luck this afternoon. Not many people in irc and nobody wanted to get into it with me I'll keep checking back and see if I can't spark a conversation later.

I have 58 hands on villain and he's a dumbass. with stats of 41/0 and the notes read:
[PF]AllinPreflopWithJunk(1)
[PF]calls with junk IP for multiway(1/1)
[PF]CC {QJs,J7s,J3s,A6}(4)
[PF]defends sb {64s,87}(2)
[PF]limp/calls {76,K7}(2)
[F]Gets it in with overpairs/wet flop(0/1)
[F]plays draws aggressively(0/2)
[R]bets river light in pos(0/6)
[R]overbets river strong(0/5)

Given all this I really don't know what the hell to put him on for a range? I literally think if I'm going to pokerstove it I have to use the random button for his range. Then he does this shove shit and I've seen him do it one other time with air.

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
8 Players
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Stacks:
UTG Player9 ($6.10)
UTG+1 Player1 ($5)
MP1 Player3 ($13.72)
MP2 Player4 ($5.51)
CO Player5 ($1.61)
BTN Hero ($4.86)
SB Player7 ($1.95)
BB Player8 ($5.55)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 8 players) Hero is BTN
2 folds, Player3 calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, Player7 calls $0.23, 1 fold, Player3 calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.80, 3 players)
Player7 checks, Player3 bets $5.20, $4.61 to Hero ($4.61)?


Going to post this in BC as well for conversation purpose.

Originally Posted by HarleyGuy13

Good idea daven but no luck this afternoon. Not many people in irc and nobody wanted to get into it with me I'll keep checking back and see if I can't spark a conversation later.

so, even cooler idea
you do something as a default in that situation at the moment right?
so, briefly explain why you do what you do. That's all you need to start. I guarantee people will chime in on this one once you get the ball rolling.

Quick update

Poker :No real change to report. Taking it easy and not getting to worked up. Played a few of the 50bb tables which are pretty soft. Need to build the br up.

Life oing really well with my running. Ran longer than I have in like 32 years last week. Monday I bettered it in that I ran the same amount of time but kicked up the pace. This week all three running days will be the same so my plan is to kick up the pace each day a little. Looking forward to turkey day mainly because my oldest son is an actual Chef and as you can imagine the dinners that boy prepares are amazing. Hate to say it but even most Grandmas can't compare!

Glad yo see you like those 10nl 50bb!


I need to get in better shape again lol, Good job on that front.

Congrats man. I love my food come Thanksgiving but nothing like having an actual Chef haha.

Have you ever tried/been interested in p90x?

Originally Posted by kmind

Congrats man. I love my food come Thanksgiving but nothing like having an actual Chef haha.

Have you ever tried/been interested in p90x?

Not really familiar with it? I am considering Crossfit but I need to get a little better foundation first cuz it's a serious ass kicker. Several of my cop buddies are doing it and loving it but most of them are several years younger than I.

p90x and crossfit are actually pretty similar, crossfit is used WIDELY by alot of police officers

So today was an interesting day. Actually started off last night when I came home and was informed that the furnace had gone out. Now I just spent $500 getting a new mother board installed in the damn thing so I'm not happy. Now did I mention the pacific northwest is in the midst of an extreme cold for us. So temperatures drop down to the upper teens last night and temps in the house are 49 degrees this morning. Wife gets up and bundles up to get ready for work. She walks down the hall and I hear the dryer open then insta F-bomb! "Fucfing dryer" Sure shit the dryer goes tits up! So I spent most of my day fucking with the furnace and dryer. Furnace dude comes out and of course it's nothing related to the motherboard but another $201 and it's fixed. I research the dryer diagnose the problem etc. Go down to the appliance repair joint just in time to see an ambulance show up and a sign on the front door stating "We are closed do to an emergency." Well wife brings the part home and eventually I get it fixed as well. Now I spend numerous times outside watering the animals etc. It's fucking cold!

Well I finally get to play some poker. I got turned onto 10nl/50bb bi's by Schya the other day and they've treated me good so I figure what the hell. Long story short I grind out 1286 hands @ 19.35bb/100 which was nice for a change. I'll post a few of the more humorous hands of the day. I thought I did an exceptional job of exploiting others which has been an on going problem for me.

1) Villain here has been a total tard. I've seen him shove with total shit etc. He's running 62/27 over a small sample but he's consistently a dumb shit! Notes read:

• [PF]AllinPreflopWithJunk(1)
• [PF]defends bb {Q2}(1)
• [F]plays draws aggressively(2/2)
• [T]2 barrels flush draws(1/1)
• [R]bets river light in pos(1/3)
• [R]overbets river strong(0/2)

$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
9 Players
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Stacks:
UTG chita chavez ($5)
UTG+1 xiaolongnv ($2)
MP1 Gino PL ($5.93)
MP2 maverick1880 ($3)
MP3 Hero ($6.17)
CO Traikent ($5)
BTN Idrgaf ($3.75)
SB Mararatt ($2)
BB vit90 ($2.30)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is MP3
2 folds, Gino PL calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.50, 4 folds, Gino PL calls $0.40

Standard for me.

Flop: ($1.15, 2 players)

Figure I'll see if a 1/2 pot bet takes it or not. Again my sizing has issues no doubt.

Gino PL checks, Hero bets $0.60, Gino PL calls $0.60

Ok well if we don't improve I'm going to slow it down.

Turn: ($2.35, 2 players)
Gino PL checks, Hero checks

River: ($2.35, 2 players)
Gino PL checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $2.35
Hero shows a pair of Tens

Gino PL shows high card Jack


Hero wins $2.24 (net +$1.14)

Gino PL lost $1.10

well that just adds to what I already knew about this guy for sure.

VERY NEXT HAND

$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
7 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ASH3StoAC3S ($4.70)
UTG+1 leandro bast ($1.85)
MP Casadilla03 ($4.64)
CO Olgana777 ($2)
BTN golfker ($2)
SB Hero ($7.47)
BB cardshark852 ($10.59)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 7 players) Hero is SB
Nitty me doesn't really like QKo typically oop but against this guy I figure hell he may fold or if I hit I could get paid.

5 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, cardshark852 calls $0.30



Flop: ($0.80, 2 players)

I decide to see if he'll do the betting for me. I really have no concern about the fd.

Hero checks, cardshark852 bets $1, Hero calls $1



Turn: ($2.80, 2 players)

Again I just figure what the hell he's done it before lets see what he'll do.

Hero checks, cardshark852 bets $2, Hero calls $2


River: ($6.80, 2 players)
I'm really liking the way this is working so what the fuck how about one more time!
Hero checks, cardshark852 goes all-in $7.19, Hero goes all-in $4.07

Final Pot: $18.06
Hero shows a straight, Ten to Ace

cardshark852 shows high card Ace


Hero wins $14.21 (net +$6.74)

cardshark852 collects $3.12 (net -$7.47)



3) So here I really want to get into a pot with Gino PL. He's a total dip shit running 65/5 over small sample of 65 hands. Mararatt is pretty solid nit running 13/10 over 392 hands.


$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
9 Players
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Stacks:
UTG xiaolongnv ($2)
UTG+1 Gino PL ($4.83)
MP1 maverick1880 ($3)
MP2 Hero ($7.31)
MP3 Traikent ($5)
CO Idrgaf ($3.75)
BTN Mararatt ($2)
SB vit90 ($2.20)
BB chita chavez ($5)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is MP2
Figure what the hell I'll see if I can take it down or maybe get that hand I've wanted against Gino.

1 fold, Gino PL calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.50, 2 folds, Mararatt calls $0.50, 2 folds, Gino PL calls $0.40

Not really worried about Maramatt since notes indicate he 3-bets AQ and 4-bets AA, AK.

Flop: ($1.65, 3 players)

Like this flop of course with the fd but want to proceed carefully. I debated betting out but thought best to see a free card or see what Maramatt does.

Gino PL checks, Hero checks, Mararatt checks

Nice I get the free card I was hoping for!

Turn: ($1.65, 3 players)

Bingo now can I extract some money? Hoping he'll bet into me and thought if he does then I'm going to just call.

Gino PL checks, Hero bets $0.60, Mararatt folds, Gino PL calls $0.60

He checks and I'm thinking shit well lets see what he does with a very small bet. Hoping he perceives it as weakness. I probably should have bet a something like $1.50?

River: ($2.85, 2 players)

Gino PL goes all-in $3.73, Hero calls $3.73

Fist pump!

Final Pot: $10.31
Hero shows a flush, Ace high

Gino PL shows two pair, Kings and Queens


Hero wins $9.81 (net +$4.98)

Mararatt lost $0.50
Gino PL lost $4.83

Well poker was good for the day. Doubt I'll get any hands in tomorrow since it's a holiday in the states but damn I'd sure like to take advantage of it if I get the chance! Hope I didn't fuck this up to much. See I stopped playing after a good stiff one!

Cheers

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TT hand I think you have to bet turn, so much value from either of the two flushdraws, 98, single pair hands. Betting the flop bigger is a good idea too. You have an overpair vs a drooler on a fairly drawy board. Flop bet is a value bet, not a "take it down" bet. I mean sure he's folding if he absolutely whiffed.

KQs if fine with read. I'm tempted to c/r turn with the 3flush out.

AJs you have to bet the turn bigger for alot of reasons. Value, Value, Value... If you bet at least 1$ although I'd make it bigger vs a whale then you have < pot behind for river. and there are a ton of rivers that will either ruin your value or turn your hand into a bluffcatcher(4th diamond, K, Q, (7?))

again harley, you're not thinking about extracting value from megafish with massive ranges. That TT hand is an easy bet bet shove, and yes bet more on the flop. There's tons of pairs and draws that will pay off big flop & turn bets. If you're too timid to take their money, someone else will!

Typing your thought processes out in your HHs like this is great for your development as we can see where your faulty though processes lie, but this is only useful if you actually make the changes you need to.

Originally Posted by d0zer

again harley, you're not thinking about extracting value from megafish with massive ranges. That TT hand is an easy bet bet shove, and yes bet more on the flop. There's tons of pairs and draws that will pay off big flop & turn bets. If you're too timid to take their money, someone else will!

Typing your thought processes out in your HHs like this is great for your development as we can see where your faulty though processes lie, but this is only useful if you actually make the changes you need to.

How very true! Thanks for the input fellas.

great work on explaining your thinking - it's the best way to get better, also, what d0zer said.
You would probably benefit from posting more hh responses in the bc WITHOUT reading other people's answers first. If you don't like what you wrote after you read the rest for whatever reason you can always delete it, but you'll learn if people disagree and if people agree it's good for confidence etc.

ok, the hands:

TT - pre-flop great, you could iso even bigger if you wanted. Flop bet 3/4 pot. Turn, ok, you want to be stacking off here cos you're ahead about 95% of the time and he's calling his entire dumbarse range. $1.8 is good cos it gives pot about $6 and river is easy shove, pot is better cos he's calling his draws and those won't call rivers when they miss. As played you can check back river.

KQ - you should pretty much always steal KQo from sb... Flop I just c-bet, but c-call is fine. C-shove flop would be bad. Turn you could faux-block, or c-shove. I don't like c-call.

AdJd - preflop is absolutely standard vs almost any limper, even more so vs a known uber-fish. Flop is fine, so is c-betting. Bet the fucking turn bigger when you hit please - hell Q7 has odds to call given your sizing, river is standard obviously.

Looks like you're making some great progress lately sir. Been following for a while. Keep it up!

Amirite here that I am priced in? Hate to say but I had no reads. This is like the second orbit at this table.

$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
7 Players
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Stacks:
UTG timmeydo ($3.77)
UTG+1 Hero ($5.15)
MP Gammi-kg ($1.72)
CO DCDave1957 ($0.58)
BTN chomarrr ($1.89)
SB Damian1966 ($1.85)
BB Muha4 ($3.39)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 7 players) Hero is UTG+1
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, Gammi-kg raises to $0.80, DCDave1957 goes all-in $0.58, 1 fold, Damian1966 goes all-in $1.85, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.45, Gammi-kg goes all-in $0.92

Flop: ($6.10, 4 players, 3 all-in)

Turn: ($6.10, 4 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($6.10, 4 players, 3 all-in)

Nice short session before work today,540 hands @22.28bb/100. Slowing down my volume and trying to play every hand correct. I still find myself on occasion doing really stupid shit like "oh what the fuck I know he has it but I wanna see" and I'll call an obvious value bet. That type of shit really pisses me off because there is no excuse for it. I need to make every move for a reason and with a purpose.

Side note really inspired by CBAT's success. Big shout out to you buddy you've really kicked it in gear this year! Congrats on Supernova

Originally Posted by HarleyGuy13

Amirite here that I am priced in? Hate to say but I had no reads.

dude, this is even more of a call if you are the type to get tilted when seeing 3xAK after you've folded
seriously though, you need about 25% so it's a fine use of 30bb

Originally Posted by daven

dude, this is even more of a call if you are the type to get tilted when seeing 3xAK after you've folded
seriously though, you need about 25% so it's a fine use of 30bb

Thanks daven I was pretty damn sure but I just wanted confirmation I guess. Now what if everybody had been deep say 150+ etc?

Originally Posted by HarleyGuy13

Now what if everybody had been deep say 150+ etc?

snap fucking fold

here's some optimistic context

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 21.112% 20.33% 00.79% 437767 16959.42 { JcJs }
Hand 1: 36.056% 34.85% 01.21% 750512 26124.25 { TT+ }
Hand 2: 29.111% 28.45% 00.67% 612679 14401.17 { QQ+, AJs+, KQs, AQo+, KQo }
Hand 3: 13.721% 13.44% 00.28% 289483 6082.17 { random }

How cool was this! NOT Actually didn't bother me in the least!

$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
9 Players
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Stacks:
UTG GaGy12 ($2.10)
UTG+1 caasi1225 ($6.43)
MP1 Hero ($5.12)
MP2 NBGOLDUP520 ($4.23)
MP3 Deadliest499 ($11.88)
CO Mararatt ($2)
BTN fabinhopy ($5.95)
SB peace_dye ($3.04)
BB Fortis Fortu ($2.17)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is MP1
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.55, 4 folds, peace_dye calls $0.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.20, 2 players)
peace_dye bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: ($1.40, 2 players)
peace_dye bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

River: ($1.80, 2 players)
peace_dye goes all-in $2.19, Hero calls $2.19, Hero says "nh"

Final Pot: $6.18
peace_dye shows four of a kind, Queens

Hero shows a full house, Aces full of Queens


peace_dye wins $6.02 (net +$2.98)

Hero lost $3.04

it should bother you a lot that you didn't raise the turn
it should bother you a lot that you didn't fold the river

Originally Posted by daven

*it should bother you a lot that you didn't raise the turn
**it should bother you a lot that you didn't fold the river

* I get the turn fact!
** Really you honestly would have folded here? Like how often is he really ahead? .........Now funny thing is as I'm writing this I'm thinking it through more. I'm asking myself "Why the hell is daven telling me this? So rather than question it maybe I should work through this a little. Man I am still having a hard time finding a fold against this guy. His stats are 88/15 he's cbet 68% and folded to cbet 45%. His notes read:

[PF]4 bets {KQ}(1)
[PF]calls with junk IP for multiway(1/1 100%)
[PF]CC {J4s}(1)
[PF]defends bb {Q2}(1)
[PF]defends sb {Q6}(1)
[PF]limp/calls {Q3s,54,86,42}(4)
[PF]posts dead(1)
[PF]Raise btn {KQ}(1)
[PF]Raise UTG {AQs}(1)
[T]checks behind turn strong in contested pot(1/2 50%)
[R]bets river light in pos(0/2 0%)
[R]overbets river strong(0/5 0%)

But now with the benefit of hindsight I am having a hard time coming up with anything he would do this with I guess but I just don't know that I would find a fold here!

given reads i guess a river call is tolerable, but it's really closer than it first appears cos you block the QQQAA and you look like you have Ax which means there is only one hand he can be betting for value... so is he bluffing the perceived split? dunno.

Re note caddy, i don't like its notes. You won't be able to refer to them ingame and draw useful conclusions. Hell, 15 seconds and i wouldn't even get past the 4th line. Thinking of the usefulness of the notes.

1 - Was the KQ 4b one of those min-3b-cib type of battles? or? position? etc.
2 - does defend sb with Q6 mean that he limped along into a limped pot, or that he called a button min-steal, or he called multiway behind an ep open and 5 callers, or?
3 - posts dead - absolutely irrelevant without context. If he posts bb in utg+1 that's different to timing out in the bb and then posting the sb from the co two hands later to get back in the game

like, i don't think these notes provide ANY usefull information beyond that already available to you on your HUD.

Daven,

88/15? with a bit of crazy in him. Plus, harley looks super weak, not like the manic can read. I don't see how this is anything but fist pump snap call. Sure you spilt 1 combo and lose 1 combo. but the guy is sooooooooooooooooo much wider than that.

!luck

raise flop, there's about a billion gutshots and shit that'll let this pot get bigger, and if he's the type of retard donk who minbet bluffs air or like 2nd/3rd pair then you're not getting paid adequately calling this down anyway so just raise flop and fold never.

Originally Posted by !Luck

Daven,

88/15? with a bit of crazy in him. Plus, harley looks super weak, not like the manic can read. I don't see how this is anything but fist pump snap call. Sure you spilt 1 combo and lose 1 combo. but the guy is sooooooooooooooooo much wider than that.

!luck

He always has an ace or a queen when he bets the turn then overbet shoves river. Count combos. Sure, calling is ok, so long as we first consider that we block pretty hard and he's scared of the queen as well. I doubt i'd be folding here.

Well I can't say I am sad to see November go away. What a struggle it was. Over all ended the month down 8.5 bi's at 10nl. I have to say though there were some positives that came out of the month. I've worked through many more hands than I would typically. Spent more time with who should be my bff and that would be PokerStove. I can see where the more you use it the more of a feel you get at the tables. Not that I expect to be able to be like "Oh snap I have 63.23%" but I sure will keep working with it and getting a better feel. I've also came to the conclusion that volume at this point for me is really not beneficial. If I loose more than the stellar rewards etc then what the hell sense does that make.
Plan for December is step back to 5nl and lower the number of tables. Focus on quality hands and don't worry about quanity since it will come any how. I get a lot of hours in since I can play at the office quit often so it will happen. I'm not going to worry about moving up with the bankroll but I will move up when I am beating 5nl at a VERY solid winrate. By this I mean I don't care if I have $500 in my bankroll if I haven't made sufficient improvement with my skills then I will continue working at the current level. Watching the bankroll increase even if I'm only playing 5nl is much better than moving up becuase I'm rolled for it then watching it dwindle away.
I may post graphs for last month later but wtf they are just as shitty as the story so meh.

Is this a leak? I really think I do this way way to often. I think oh yea I'm gonna take this down plus I have overs then boom I'm like WTF.........

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
9 Players
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Stacks:
UTG doezdnoi ($2.50)
UTG+1 CasterTroy29 ($2.29)
MP1 thecalin ($4.28)
MP2 x.x.x622 ($4.44)
MP3 jhawkred ($6.77)
CO gamblingreat ($13.16)
BTN Hero ($4.93)
SB leech4555 ($4.79)
BB bluffer1069 ($12.50)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 9 players) Hero is BTN
1 fold, CasterTroy29 calls $0.05, 2 folds, jhawkred calls $0.05, gamblingreat calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.35, 2 folds, CasterTroy29 calls $0.30, jhawkred folds, gamblingreat folds

Flop: ($0.87, 2 players)
CasterTroy29 checks, Hero bets $0.70, CasterTroy29 goes all-in $1.94, Hero folds

Final Pot: $3.51

CasterTroy29 wins $3.40 (net +$1.11)

jhawkred lost $0.05
gamblingreat lost $0.05
Hero lost $1.05

You know really how fucking retarded do you have to be to make a call less than one second after you've told yourself your beat. I can't expect to better myself if I can't control this impulse. I'm not sure if it is the excitement of making the call it's self or the thrill when you do make the call and you win. If it is the later of the two then I am so fucking confused since it happens so fucking seldom!
I am off tomorrow and I will play a session in the morning. I will get up excercise, shower, eat a good healthy breakfast then go into my den and play good fucking poker. I will focus on each hand I play and I will make what I believe to be are the correct moves. I will stop being a stupid fucking fish and start playing like I should!

Your sizing on that c bet is defo a leak. You can still make this guy fold all his air and ace high by betting like 1/2 to 2/3ds pot and be able to b/f more comfortably, saving monies the times he ships on you. . He's likely not folding any pair on this flop regardless with so little behind etc so jus make it smaller and don't burn extra moneys for no reason.

Originally Posted by Carroters

Your sizing on that c bet is defo a leak. You can still make this guy fold all his air and ace high by betting like 1/2 to 2/3ds pot and be able to b/f more comfortably, saving monies the times he ships on you. . He's likely not folding any pair on this flop regardless with so little behind etc so jus make it smaller and don't burn extra moneys for no reason.

Thanks Carrroters I appreciate the input!

re, the KQ hand - this covers it:

Originally Posted by Carroters

Your sizing on that c bet is defo a leak. You can still make this guy fold all his air and ace high by betting like 1/2 to 2/3ds pot and be able to b/f more comfortably, saving monies the times he ships on you. . He's likely not folding any pair on this flop regardless with so little behind etc so jus make it smaller and don't burn extra moneys for no reason.

also

Originally Posted by HarleyGuy13

You know really how fucking retarded do you have to be to make a call less than one second after you've told yourself your beat. I can't expect to better myself if I can't control this impulse.

happens to all of us. The less often it happens, the greater our winrates....

If only every session could be like this mornings short session. 293 hands @ 106.83bb/100 or a little over 3bi's. I know its insignificant but I have to tell you how nice it was to come out on top for once. God it seems like it's been for ever since I've had a winning session. I actually have the better boat today, over set twice and I'll be damned if I didn't hit my flush as well! I only lost $$ on 7 hands and the largest was only for 22bb's with the next largest being for 14bb's. Seems like lately when I look I'll have lost many more hands than I've won and lots of big pots or stacks and only won small pots.

So I'm not sure what to do this month as far as volume goes. So for the last two months I was goldstar but did not maintain it this month. I am about 8500fpps away from a $300 reward but I think I have to be goldstar in order to get it. I would have to do a shit ton of volume at 5nl in order to reach goldstar and I am sure if I did that volume I would earn enough fpp's for the bonus. I don't know if the bonuses start over at the end of the year or not? Could I get this bonus say in February if I hit goldstar or will I have to work through all the different levels again? If anybody understands the program enough that they would explain it to me I would appreciate it. I'll post this question in BC as well.

Originally Posted by HarleyGuy13

I am about 8500fpps away from a $300 reward

Could I get this bonus say in February if I hit goldstar or will I have to work through all the different levels again? I

from a non-stars player
pretty sure FPPs carry over
pretty sure you should ask in IRC

"Please Dear Poker God let this continue!"



So far today has been a good day. Yesterday was equally as good so lets hope we can ride this out.

hmm your not as nitty as i thought. Maybe just postflop??

Originally Posted by Imthenewfish

hmm your not as nitty as i thought. Maybe just postflop??

Pretty much. One of my problems is once I'm in a hand I have a hard time finding a fold!

Damn it is nice to be running good for a change. Got in 1050 hands this morning @ 20.55bb/100 so that was nice. I looked over the my biggest losers and really didn't see any problems. I'll post a few up later. So far the month is going pretty good after yet another rocky start. 6963 hands so far @ exactly 6bb/100 so that tells you how bad the start was!

On the life side of things all is well. I'm still running and will be starting week 8 of the couch to 5k this morning. I did week 7 over since the holiday kinda threw shit off. This week I'll be doing the standard 5 minute walk followed by a 28 minute run. I know it doesn't sound like much but for my old ass that hasn't done shit in 30+ years it's a good accomplishment!

Keep it up dude! Getting in shape is the bomb for poker and everything else. As always if you ever want to do a sweat or anything I'm totally up for it. I tend to play like the young aggrotard that I am so maybe I can help you loosen up post flop a bit (hopefully not too much though :P)

Originally Posted by HarleyGuy13

I know it doesn't sound like much but for my old ass that hasn't done shit in 30+ years it's a good accomplishment!

Far better than my 24 year old ass. Keep it up!

Gonna just keep riding this one as long as possible. This morning session = 934 hands and I finished at 17.19bb/100. Luckily most of the times I got beat it was against smaller stacks.

I know this one could have been avoided. Villain is pretty tagg and I should have gotten out sooner but not for the sake of him having Q7!

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
8 Players
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Stacks:
UTG SomersetNJ ($2.37)
UTG+1 Jenya ZUMMER ($2.03)
MP1 Hero ($11.99)
MP2 dzasty ($3.83)
CO playafly299 ($5.75)
BTN joricho ($5)
SB Gret9 ($5.84)
BB Martell17 ($5.14)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 8 players) Hero is MP1
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, dzasty calls $0.20, 4 folds

Flop: ($0.47, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.30, dzasty raises to $0.65, Hero calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.77, 2 players)
Hero checks, dzasty bets $1.10, Hero calls $1.10

River: ($3.97, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.90, dzasty goes all-in $1.88

Final Pot: $7.75
dzasty shows four of a kind, Sevens

Hero shows a full house, Sevens full of Jacks


dzasty wins $7.36 (net +$3.53)

Hero collects $0.02 (net -$3.83)


Don't know that I could have done much different here really? Very small sample on villain of 20 hands @ 20/10

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Stacks:
UTG Surtor ($2)
UTG+1 PokerAleman ($6.36)
MP mikelozia ($3.52)
CO ellenyas ($14.03)
BTN ccavero ($4.49)
SB chakal47 ($5.43)
BB Hero ($5)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 7 players) Hero is BB
2 folds, mikelozia calls $0.05, 2 folds, chakal47 calls $0.03, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.15, 3 players)
chakal47 checks, Hero bets $0.12, mikelozia folds, chakal47 calls $0.12

Turn: ($0.39, 2 players)
chakal47 checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.39, 2 players)
chakal47 bets $0.70, Hero raises to $1.58, chakal47 calls $0.88

Final Pot: $3.55
chakal47 shows a straight, Seven to Jack

Hero shows three of a kind, Threes


chakal47 wins $3.38 (net +$1.63)

mikelozia lost $0.05
Hero lost $1.75


This one I have a feeling is just a leaky hand by myself. I'm going to work through it later when I have more time. Villain is 26/2 over like 285 hands.

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Stacks:
UTG Jalokk ($5.13)
UTG+1 HerrNilsson1 ($4.75)
MP1 ebananax ($5.07)
MP2 Maestozo ($5.50)
MP3 PokerAleman ($5.05)
CO Tigerocks! ($4.30)
BTN humboldt2004 ($1.88)
SB swiftlock ($3.15)
BB Hero ($5.18)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 9 players) Hero is BB
1 fold, HerrNilsson1 calls $0.05, 3 folds, Tigerocks! calls $0.05, 1 fold, swiftlock calls $0.03, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.20, 4 players)
swiftlock checks, Hero bets $0.14, 1 fold, Tigerocks! calls $0.14, swiftlock calls $0.14

Turn: ($0.62, 3 players)
swiftlock checks, Hero bets $0.40, Tigerocks! calls $0.40, swiftlock folds

River: ($1.42, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.68, Tigerocks! raises to $1.80, Hero calls $1.12

Final Pot: $5.02
Hero shows

Tigerocks! shows a straight, Nine to King


Tigerocks! wins $4.78 (net +$2.39)

swiftlock lost $0.19
Hero lost $2.39
HerrNilsson1 lost $0.05


Well in spite of it all things have still been going well. Thought I would take a screen shot of my sexy graph. Small sample I know for sure but after what I've put myself through the last couple months I'll take all the good news I can get.






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JJ hand isn't terrible. I would probably bet fold turn tiny? dunno, your line is cool vs the 88-TT/ AQ in his range...

34o. I wouldn't bother stabbing at that flop on that board. Turn is fine. River I just call cos you have a bluff catcher (3x beats you).

KQo. Bet river bigger, never folding, nh.

Just dropping in to say GL with the op! Its pretty cool you can play at your job if you choose to. Obviously it would be better if you could play AND make money at the job, that would be so sick. But can't have everything you want..

In the JJ hand I think you played it decently until the river. I'm not 100% sure but if I was playing it I'd prob c/c turn as well. On the river all the draws brick and I wouldn't expect him to value bet hands that are worse than ours unless he makes a very small bet. So for that reason I like a simple c/f on the river. I think river raise may be a fold as played?

For the 43o hand, what was your reason for betting the flop? We're not getting hardly any worse hands to call and even if they do they prob have a ton of equity against us. And we're prob not getting that many better hands to fold. Something to think about.

I think the KQ hand is pretty close in terms of calling his raise or folding. His stats indicate that he's probably pretty passive and when that type of player raises he's usually not bluffing. However, who knows if he thinks KJ, KT, QT is the nuts right now and just decided to raise. Really not sure about this hand tbh.

I'm finding so much value in these short morning sessions. Today was 545 hands @48.44bb/100. My biggest looser was for 55BB's when my AJo was dominated by AK. Next biggest looser was for 30BB's then a 20BB then down to totally insignificant ultra small pots. My point is I think I am finally getting a handle on pot control. For the longest time it would be every pot I was involved in I would bloat the damn pot trying to bluff if I couldn't win it legitimately. I"m finding that c/c are ok some times and just getting the fuck out of the pot when you don't hit it is good. Daven & carrotz have pounded it into my head enough times now that I think I am also learning that by c-bets don't have to be so damn big. I was always bet around 70% even when I missed and now I'm finding 40-50% accomplishes the same thing and it makes it so much easier to b/f.

I have also been doing a little bit of limping behind with some hands in late position, but no open limping. Playing with things like 78s or 22-66 after a couple limpers. I'm not comfortable betting 6x with these hands so that is my reasoning? I'd like to hear some feedback on this?

Well that damn treadmill is calling my name so I'm going to get my run in!

Good session again this evening. Couple hands that caused me some concern and I obviously have a big leak. Am I correct that these are leaky hands?

Villain is tagg 10/7 over 466 hands w/4% 3bet. So I guess I really need to work on interpreting stats. I also need to look at the fucking things while I'm playing the fucking hand. I always look at the basics but seldom do I look closer!

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
9 Players
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Stacks:
UTG kkh0r ($6.42)
UTG+1 RickRenegade ($1.60)
MP1 lsdbaku ($2.43)
MP2 rodbeni ($5)
MP3 owies80 ($4.37)
CO Hero ($4.97)
BTN patduf ($6.36)
SB UGA Dawg 21 ($3.79)
BB sorrow2790 ($7.71)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 9 players) Hero is CO
1 fold, RickRenegade calls $0.05, 1 fold, rodbeni calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, 3 folds, RickRenegade calls $0.25, rodbeni calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.97, 3 players)
RickRenegade checks, rodbeni bets $0.20, Hero raises to $1.20, RickRenegade folds, rodbeni goes all-in $4.70, $3.47 to Hero ($3.47)?



Then here is the fucking twin which was literally only a couple hands later! Again the villain is a tagg 7/4 over 231 hands but he's NEVER 3bet so why the fuck didn't I notice that????? FUCK ME!


$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
9 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ClevelandCv ($4)
UTG+1 SuborovIL ($2.68)
MP1 pginri ($5.90)
MP2 rodbeni ($5)
MP3 KostenkoD ($2.86)
CO diehardbarca ($4.93)
BTN compudaze ($5.34)
SB Hero ($4.83)
BB Maestozo ($5)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 9 players) Hero is SB
ClevelandCv calls $0.05, 6 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, Maestozo calls $0.20, ClevelandCv calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.75, 3 players)
Hero bets $0.45, Maestozo raises to $1.35, ClevelandCv folds, $0.9 to Hero ($4.13)?

second hand is not even close. EZ fold.

Originally Posted by !Luck

second hand is not even close. EZ fold.

I don't doubt you but would you explain it to me plz?

We def needs POSTFLOP reads. That's a huge leak to not look beyond flop BEFORE you decide to play your hand IMO. You can play way more hands vs some people, fold some that you normally open, etc. based on postflop tendencies. And we all know you have notecaddy so it's even easier! Anyways, to help me with this recently was to color code every player on every table after I had some reads/general idea on how they played. I color code aggro. "regs", nitty regs, aggro fish, passive fish and competent short stackers. Nothing crazy but it forces myself to constantly look at everyone's gameplan and is also easier later in the session when I can look at a color and say ok he's passive postflop I'll iso this hand and cbet most flops, etc. I'm still looking at their stats/notes after I color code them too just to make sure.

Of course at FR it will be much tougher to color code everyone

ranges
hand 1 [AsQs, AsJs, 7s8s, TT/JJ (spade/x - this is a way to discount these two hands from 6 -> 3 combos), QQ, KK, AA, 66/99/33]
hand 2 [QQ+. AhKh, 88, 66, 44]

-> stove

thoughts?

Originally Posted by HarleyGuy13

I don't doubt you but would you explain it to me plz?

Don't pay off supernits. They have absurdly narrow ranges.