Dwarfman's NL Ring Challenge!

OK, here's a challenge for you, and it will only cost you $10!

The challenge is to start off by buying into a .25/.50 NL ring game for the minimum, $10. Then as you make the minimum for the next level, you MUST move up and buy in for the minimum there, then you progress up.

Rules

1. You MUST buy in for the minimum in each level.
2. You can only move up once you have reached the minimum buy in for the next level above you (eg. you must make it to $20 playing .25/.50 to move up).
3. Once you have reached the minimum buy in for the next level, you MUST go there immediately.
4. If you bust out at any stage, you have to go back to the beginning and buy in for $10 at .25/.50.
5. If you double up at 10/20 ($800), you have completed Dwarfman's NL Ring Challenge.
6. NLHE Ring only!!
7. If you go just over your next level target (eg. going to $23 at .25/.50), you still must buy in for the minimum at the next level.
8. Full ring OR 6 max are both allowed.
9. You may pull out at any stage if you wish, however you will lose out on satisfaction!!
10. If you complete the challenge, we would love to see your hand history, make sure you store them!
11. You are allowed to play this challenge at any Party skins or Pokerstars.

Steps

.25/.50 - $10
.50/1 - $20
1/2 - $40
2/4 - $80
3/6 - $120
5/10 - $200
10/20 - $400

If you double up to $800 at 10/20 NL, you WIN.

Please note that it is very, very, very hard to complete this challenge, if you do I will be thoroughly impressed!

The reason I made it is because it is an opportunity to play very high stakes and it will only cost you $10 if you lose.

Good luck and have fun - remember to post your best runs here!

Interesting...

reminds me of this:

NWP search for "heeb, heebin, or neverheeb"

Well im gonna try...

I'd wimp out if I got $400. No way Im gonna go buy in with it at 10/20.

I think I'm gonna have a go at this.

I'll probably wuss out once I get it up to $1oo or $200 but we'll see.

I'll update here and my blog probably

sounds like a cool variation on "steps." 25nl shortstacked is going to be SUPER boring though...

this is a great idea.

challenge accepted.

have you done this already?

Originally Posted by nomofoshobro

this is a great idea.

challenge accepted.

have you done this already?

It came into my head after I bought in for the minimum at a .5/1 NL ring, and quite easily pwned the hell out of it. I'm going to try the full challenge today.

Originally Posted by journey075

sounds like a cool variation on "steps." 25nl shortstacked is going to be SUPER boring though...

You start with $10 at $50NL!

Sounds like fun, I kind of do that already, but usually cash out once I get to 100 or so. My question is, how long did this take you?? Or is this spread out over multiple days? I guess it shouldn't take longer then a multitable tourney though.

Do you work for Stars? Are you trying to increase their rakes? heh heh

This looks interesting. I don't like the low buy-ins (compared to the blinds) though, it seems like the bigger stacks might be able to push you around.

Rippy does this in ring and he does really well, i think you can double up easy cause you're re raise all in will be chasable for the big stacks. I agree if i got to a high stage i might sissy out lol

accepted. .25/.5 6max is down. A3 on an a24 flop. I check-raise AI and get running jacks to beat 24s.

EDIT .5/1 completed. K7 in the sb, limp pot board is T8222 checked to the river, I check-raise a button river bet AI and win the pot to put me over 40.

EDIT It's over. A7s in the bb. Called a raise, flop come A24, op beat weak, I check-raise AI and he rakes the pot with ATo.

I will win this challenege.

-'rilla

I'm working on it, I have to start over already after 15 hands (flopped TP and OESD against a made straight in the BB).

Dwarfman's NL Ring Challenge! (aka: Dwarfy's BR management loophole thread).
I will give this a try. Nice idea.

I'm sure that the high stakes players will love this idea b/c of the dead money that will show up in the 10/20's

round 2

I think.. i cleared .25/.5 Both my tables died when I was up 4bucks and 6 bucks. But I'm gonna keep at it until I get 20 at one table.

yah, cleared. J2 on a 226 board. Check-raise AI and got k6 to play.

-'rilla

Attempt #2 busted out. KJ chased me all the way to the river to catch a 4th heart on the board and crack my paired ace.

Busted at level 2. 88 couldnt outflip AJ.

Round 3.

-'rilla

Finally finished level 1 on my 3rd try. :P

Edit: 50 hands and -$20 to get to L2.

Round 3, level 1 complete. From the bb I turned a straight and check it through to the river. When op said I checked the nuts i went "lol!!! I didnt kno!!!" And went on to bet and never get to showdown becuase i was the guy who doesnt even bet with straights. Grinded my 10 bucks. I'll continue later. I've got shit to do.

-'rilla

Bah, busted on level 2. Outflopped AQ with AJ on a J-high flop all-in, turn was a Q.

Ok, attempt #4, this is my last one.

Grr, I keep getting donked to death. I'll try this again some other time

attempt 1 - level 1: busted out.

This is an awesome idea. I'm going to try it out.

Question: Is this challenge +EV or -EV? Why?

I would suggest that it MUST be possible to complete in fewer than 80 tries even just through dumb luck, therefore +EV. Thoughts?

I think it's probably +EV if you're good at short stack play. If you're just counting on luck, it's probably -EV - too hard to survive the number of coinflips required to get all the way through.

My first attempt just ended on (sob) level 1. I was pitted against another short stack and after we traded blows several times, I finally took a leap on a hand where I had a pair + an open ended straight draw. Missed my outs against his top pair and lost my pitiful buy-in.

Originally Posted by TylerK

Question: Is this challenge +EV or -EV? Why?

I would suggest that it MUST be possible to complete in fewer than 80 tries even just through dumb luck, therefore +EV. Thoughts?

It may even be +EV within 100 tries (due to the fractions of buy-ins you gain by only buying in the minimum at the next level)

I'm gonna make it +EV.

Reassuming my quest. Level 2.

EDIT -- Hehehe, "That's the first time i've ever seen quads with 2 of your own cards!" Its soooo fun being a n00b.

EDIT- cold cards, I dont even think i've seen a flop outside of the blinds. Stack is stagnant. Did have 99 and 2 limpers and decided not to push.. for some reason.

EDIT-- Was down to about 12 bucks but doubled up with AJ vrs 55

EDIT-- AK vrs JJ and im done. Maybe i'll try again tomorrow.

-'rilla

two tries and -$4

I'll try again in a bit.

I will try this one time on stars

So far results have been good.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) converter

Button ($18.15)
SB ($53.40)
BB ($97.25)
UTG ($73.20)
MP ($15.50)
Hero ($14.45)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, 9.
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2) 7, 9, 9 (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.5, MP calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, SB folds.

Turn: ($3.50) 2 (3 players)
BB bets $1, MP folds, Hero calls $1.

River: ($5.50) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $2, Hero raises to $5, BB calls $3.

Final Pot: $15.50

Results in ftr background color below:
BB has 7c Js (two pair, nines and sevens).
Hero has Qh 9h (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: Hero wins $15.50.

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Level 2 Complete

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) converter

BB ($183.45)
UTG ($80)
UTG+1 ($36.75)
MP1 ($37.50)
MP2 ($62.85)
MP3 ($126.40)
CO ($105.10)
Hero ($32.50)
SB ($97.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, K.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 2 folds, MP3 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.5, SB calls $2, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1.50, MP3 calls $1.50.

Flop: ($11) K, 6, 2 (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets $4, SB calls $4, UTG+1 calls $4, MP3 folds.

Turn: ($23) 7 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $12, SB calls $12, UTG+1 folds.

River: ($47) K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $14 (All-In), SB calls $14.

Final Pot: $75

Results in ftr background color below:
SB has 3h 6h (two pair, kings and sixes).
Hero has Jh Ks (three of a kind, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins $75.

That is 35+ profit i don't have to bring to the next round SWEET!




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All good things must come to an end. I got my chips in when i had the best of it and got sucked out like normal. Oh well i turned a 37 profit with the big pot at level 2. So i cannot look at this as losing I am just still piss i should be at 2/4nl playing the highest stakes i have played but oh well. Here is the hand history.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) converter

Hero ($43.30)
BB ($80)
UTG ($188.45)
UTG+1 ($91.05)
MP1 ($106.10)
MP2 ($283.40)
CO ($207.80)
Button ($59.55)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7, 8.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, 1 fold, MP2 calls $2, 2 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($8) A, 7, 8 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets $6, Hero calls $6, BB folds, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: ($20) J (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $15, Hero raises to $35.3, MP2 calls $20.30.

River: ($90.60) Q (2 players)

Final Pot: $90.60

Results in black below:
Hero has 7s 8s (two pair, eights and sevens).
MP2 has 5d Ad (flush, ace high).
Outcome: MP2 wins $90.60.

Anyone have any opinions on whether this is easier at full ring or 6 max? I usually play 6 max cash games, but it seems like with full ring you could camp longer and just push with the first really good hand that comes along. With 6 max there's more skill required to make the next level, and you might have to survive more coin flips... am I right?

Another interesting question - how aggressive are you guys being with draws? Or are you even playing drawing hands? I just flopped an OESD, didn't hit on the turn, and had to fold to a large bet. I considered check-raising all-in on the flop but that's a big risk for all my chips. It didn't seem too likely he was going to fold for my meager amount of chips - his bet on the flop (which I called) constituted 1/4 of my stack.

Just completed level 1 +$7, off to level 2...

Originally Posted by dalecooper

Anyone have any opinions on whether this is easier at full ring or 6 max? I usually play 6 max cash games, but it seems like with full ring you could camp longer and just push with the first really good hand that comes along. With 6 max there's more skill required to make the next level, and you might have to survive more coin flips... am I right?

I really don't know. I think in the upper limits full ring may be more appropriate, but in the lower level 6-max games you're going to get loose calls at least, which is what you want.

As for draws, I'd pay very close attention to your stack size, playing them more when you're near the next level's buy-in (so you have slightly more implied odds (and the chance to still turn a profit even if you bust out at the next level))

As you could see in my HH I played the first level at 6 max and the others at full ring. I think full ring is the way to go once you get to the higher levels I will try this after i play some SNG's.

Busted on level 2. This is harder than I thought. I was at one point about $1.50 shy of the $40 goal... then it all went to crap. I had a bad hand where I held 89 of diamonds on a 9-high board, all hearts. The other player bet the flop and I raised him, thinking my nines might be good and if not I could rep the flush. He called. He check/called the turn and river, and I couldn't get him to lay down his pocket kings. I maybe should have checked the river, but I thought if he had an overpair that was my last chance to win a hand I'd already built a big pot over. Oh well. After that I was too short-stacked to do a whole lot; when I was down to less than $7, I ended up going all in with T9o in a three way pot, then flopped a double belly-buster, but missed the draw. If I'd hit I would have only been back up to my original buy-in, anyway.

I'm not used to short stack play in cash games, is what I'm learning. I can survive and even thrive in tournaments with a short stack, but in cash games you really have to pick your spots well. One misread or burst of aggression vs. the wrong player, and that's it.

attempt 2 - stage 1 complete.

#Game No : 2465324345
***** Hand History for Game 2465324345 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, August 02, 11:31:45 EDT 2005
Table Table 36645 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 2: nomofoshobro ( $12.80 )
Seat 5: lickrc ( $69.10 )
Seat 6: gertner27 ( $85.50 )
nomofoshobro posts small blind [$0.25].
lickrc posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to nomofoshobro [ Ah Qd ]
gertner27 raises [$1].
nomofoshobro is all-In [$12.55]
lickrc calls [$12.30].
gertner27 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, 6h, Qs ]
sickwitit has joined the table.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 3s ]
nomofoshobro shows [ Ah, Qd ] a pair of queens.
lickrc shows [ Jd, Kh ] high card king.
nomofoshobro wins $25.60 from the main pot with a pair of queens.

EDIT: level 2 - BUSTED

Level 1 complete.

PokerStars Game #2245795939: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/08/02 - 13:19:08 (ET)
Table 'Astyanax' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Mr Ellison ($41.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Muxxxy ($18.20 in chips)
Seat 3: glendqueen ($13.25 in chips)
Seat 4: taylor868686 ($13.20 in chips)
Seat 6: dekethesneek ($18.35 in chips)
Mr Ellison: posts small blind $0.25
Muxxxy: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Muxxxy [Tc Qd]
glendqueen: raises $0.50 to $1
taylor868686: calls $1
dekethesneek: calls $1
Mr Ellison: calls $0.75
Muxxxy: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [8c 8d 9s]
Mr Ellison: bets $1.50
Muxxxy: calls $1.50
glendqueen: folds
taylor868686: calls $1.50
dekethesneek: calls $1.50
*** TURN *** [8c 8d 9s] [Jh]
Mr Ellison: checks
gulldecot joins the table at seat #5
Muxxxy: bets $5
taylor868686: raises $5.70 to $10.70 and is all-in
dekethesneek: folds
Mr Ellison: folds
Muxxxy: calls $5.70
*** RIVER *** [8c 8d 9s Jh] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Muxxxy: shows [Tc Qd] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
taylor868686: mucks hand
Muxxxy collected $30.85 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $32.40 | Rake $1.55
Board [8c 8d 9s Jh 3c]
Seat 1: Mr Ellison (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: Muxxxy (big blind) showed [Tc Qd] and won ($30.85) with a straight, Eight to Queen
Seat 3: glendqueen folded on the Flop
Seat 4: taylor868686 mucked [5h 8h]
Seat 6: dekethesneek (button) folded on the Turn

I have returned to fight the noble fight!

Round 4 - Level 1

Level 1 complete. Complete with AT in the sb. BB min raises, 2 limpers call, I push, BB calls with A4 MHIG.

Level 2 complete. Was down to 10 bucks but I doubled through with A9o vrs A3o and I limp-raise AI preflop. Then Q high flop I go in with Q7 vrs QK and backdoor my straight. I am the luckbox.

Level 3 failed. QQ ran into KK. I hoped on a shorthanded full table hoping my loose fast preflop AIs would be met with some full table disgression.. but he had kings.

-'rilla

First Attempt:

Level 1 completed yesterday (lost the HH and don't feel like looking it up)

Level 2 completed
***** Hand History for Game 2466067422 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, August 02, 15:20:14 EDT 2005
Table Table 37140 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: K_C_B ( $166 )
Seat 2: Torskfrossa ( $149.75 )
Seat 3: daphnehuang ( $57.10 )
Seat 4: greisinger ( $138.70 )
Seat 5: golf1886 ( $18 )
Seat 6: riverfenix1 ( $82 )
K_C_B posts small blind [$0.50].
Torskfrossa posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to golf1886 [ Qh Qd ]
daphnehuang calls [$1].
greisinger folds.
golf1886 raises [$3].
riverfenix1 calls [$3].
K_C_B calls [$2.50].
Torskfrossa calls [$2].
daphnehuang calls [$2].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, Qs, 7s ]
K_C_B bets [$4].
Torskfrossa folds.
daphnehuang folds.
golf1886 calls [$4].
riverfenix1 calls [$4].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]
K_C_B bets [$15].
golf1886 is all-In [$11]
riverfenix1 is all-In [$75]
K_C_B calls [$60].
** Dealing River ** [ Ts ]
K_C_B shows [ Jc, Th ] a full house, Tens full of jacks.
golf1886 shows [ Qh, Qd ] a full house, Queens full of tens.
riverfenix1 doesn't show [ Ks, Ac ] a straight, ten to ace.
K_C_B wins $128 from side pot #1 with a full house, Tens full of jacks.
golf1886 wins $58 from the main pot with a full house, Queens full of tens.

lol, nice river for me...Ill try level 3 later today or tomorrow, but with that triple up Ill still be up 8 bucks if I bust. I do this all the time though at 50NL and 100NL and it's been quite profitable for me over the last month. The big stacks at 100NL will call a $20 AI with a coinflip at best most of the time.

Push on the flop.

If I ever make it to a turn, it's becuase I'm not going to fight over the pot. I might check with a pair of aces if I think it'll induce a turn bet, but that's about it. You dont have enough chips to scare anyone.

-'rilla

If I had $100 or anything close to a full buy-in I would have played the hand differently. I would have raised more PF and pushed or made a large re-raise on the flop, but my whole goal was to turn $18 into $40 ASAP. So I wanted that AK to call that $4 bet on an inside straight draw and I know I certainly wanted that J-10 to stay. If I had raised more pre-flop I wouldn't have minded taking down that pot after the flop. I was going AI at some point so I wanted as much money in the pot as possible before I pushed. The way he was playing I know the AK would have folded to a push post-flop and possibly the J-10 also.

challenge accepted, I'll keep you posted

Lost at step 2 with AK to K10. 3 7 9 (All in here) 10 K board..

Made 4.40 extra at step 1 so
-$5.60

Round 5, Level 1. Passed easily. Only hand of note was 44 v 22 AI preflop.

Some thoughts: If you play at tighter tables, you can steal blinds very easily. It's easy to show a nice profit compared to your starting stack becuase ops are so loose with their blinds at 6max that you can pray on this easily.

I'm still gonna win this challenge.

-'rilla

Im back at it! Level 2!

Done, QJ makes top pair and gets sucked out by T3. I failed to raise the flop becuase I wanted to secure his turn bet before a push.

-'rilla

Tried this a few times today. Ended up down about $5. Never made it past level 3, which I found slightly disturbing considering how long I spent playing NL ring short stack exclusively.

Some highlights:
JJ called a min-raise @ a full table (since no one was folding anyway), only to flop quads. $50+ pot pushing me way up to level 2. Actually, this prompts the question: If you made enough to skip a level, do you do so?

Most signficant loss: AKo v A9s. He called my big preflop bet, and then hit the flush, which I also hit on the turn.

A modification I'm making: Instead of moving up when I hit the min buyin for the next level, I'm going to make it my plan to hit 22BB (ensuring a profit of 2BB per level).

Originally Posted by JeffreyGB

A modification I'm making: Instead of moving up when I hit the min buyin for the next level, I'm going to make it my plan to hit 22BB (ensuring a profit of 2BB per level).

cheater.

Well at least this challenge highlights why bankroll management is so important as this is effectively the worst thing you can do in terms of bankroll mangement.
It's like a huge spread bet saying i can win 20 coinflips, each of which is for my whole stack and some of which i'll be dominated in, i'll be surprised if anyone manages this. I guess Rilla has the best chance as he knows how to play at 600NL

This has been quite good fun, on my 4th attempt where previously I have got no further than lvl 3.

Just had the funniest hand I have had for a while... all in and had hit the sit out button ready to go to next level... boy was I shocked

PokerStars Game #2292133146: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/08/08 - 15:30:22 (ET)
Table 'Blarney' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: bsintek ($48.20 in chips)
Seat 2: AirForceMan0 ($32.40 in chips)
Seat 3: Sallco ($23.55 in chips)
Seat 4: TheGoodThief ($96.75 in chips)
Seat 5: Hinken ($53.15 in chips)
Seat 6: zilchy ($9.80 in chips)
Seat 7: turdbomb555 ($37.20 in chips)
Seat 8: M.C. Johnson ($101 in chips)
Seat 9: avenger03 ($29.95 in chips)
bsintek: posts small blind $0.25
AirForceMan0: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to zilchy [Js 9s]
Sallco: calls $0.50
TheGoodThief: folds
Hinken: folds
zilchy: calls $0.50
turdbomb555: folds
M.C. Johnson: folds
avenger03: folds
bsintek: calls $0.25
AirForceMan0: checks
*** FLOP *** [9d 2h Jd]
turdbomb555 said, "what you have/"
bsintek: checks
AirForceMan0: bets $2.50
turdbomb555 said, "5,5?"
Sallco: calls $2.50
M.C. Johnson said, "nah"
zilchy: raises $6.80 to $9.30 and is all-in
bsintek: folds
M.C. Johnson said, "a good hand though"
AirForceMan0: calls $6.80
Sallco: calls $6.80
*** TURN *** [9d 2h Jd] [7h]
turdbomb555 said, "honestly i had jacks"
AirForceMan0: checks
Sallco: checks
*** RIVER *** [9d 2h Jd 7h] [Jc]
AirForceMan0: bets $6
Sallco: calls $6
*** SHOW DOWN ***
AirForceMan0: shows [9c Jh] (a full house, Jacks full of Nines)
Sallco: mucks hand
turdbomb555 said, "if you had a queen you win"
AirForceMan0 collected $11.45 from side pot
zilchy: shows [Js 9s] (a full house, Jacks full of Nines)
AirForceMan0 collected $14.25 from main pot
zilchy collected $14.20 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $41.90 Main pot $28.45. Side pot $11.45. | Rake $2
Board [9d 2h Jd 7h Jc]
Seat 1: bsintek (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: AirForceMan0 (big blind) showed [9c Jh] and won ($25.70) with a full house, Jacks full of Nines
Seat 3: Sallco mucked [2d Ad]
Seat 4: TheGoodThief folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Hinken folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: zilchy showed [Js 9s] and won ($14.20) with a full house, Jacks full of Nines
Seat 7: turdbomb555 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: M.C. Johnson folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: avenger03 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Originally Posted by Legendash

Well at least this challenge highlights why bankroll management is so important as this is effectively the worst thing you can do in terms of bankroll mangement.
It's like a huge spread bet saying i can win 20 coinflips, each of which is for my whole stack and some of which i'll be dominated in, i'll be surprised if anyone manages this. I guess Rilla has the best chance as he knows how to play at 600NL

I don't see how this is true. If you're planning on coinflipping your way through this, then you will fail. That's the same with regular ring though - if you're planning on coinflipping every chance you get, well, you're gonna go bust a lot.

Am I the only guy who simply check-raises AI as my only move?

-'rilla

This sounds like a really cool idea. I'm gonna try this later and put the results in my blog

ok, after 4 failed attempts at the first level, I'm up to $40 and the $200 NL table. been doing this on 6 max, and have had a little overage to keep. I think if I get up to $80 here, i'm stopping though, and keeping my profit, but maybe i'll try again in a few days, just to see how it goes. this is fun!

Originally Posted by Theeggman

Dwarfman's NL Ring Challenge! (aka: Dwarfy's BR management loophole thread).

Hahaha!

I'm glad this is getting a good response, I've won level 1 four times now, pulled out 3 times to play MTTs, played level 2 once and lost sillily.

I'll try it again a few times now that I am back in the country.

does this all have to be done in a row? or can it be broken up? (i.e. getting past the first 2 levels, then finishing later)

i made one attempt and busted out at level 1

Originally Posted by ledfut

does this all have to be done in a row? or can it be broken up? (i.e. getting past the first 2 levels, then finishing later)

i made one attempt and busted out at level 1

You can take a break between levels.

So is level 3 the highest level anyone has gotten to??

Originally Posted by dwarfman

OK, here's a challenge for you, and it will only cost you $10!

The challenge is to start off by buying into a .25/.50 NL ring game for the minimum, $10. Then as you make the minimum for the next level, you MUST move up and buy in for the minimum there, then you progress up.

Rules

1. You MUST buy in for the minimum in each level.
2. You can only move up once you have reached the minimum buy in for the next level above you (eg. you must make it to $20 playing .25/.50 to move up).
3. Once you have reached the minimum buy in for the next level, you MUST go there immediately.
4. If you bust out at any stage, you have to go back to the beginning and buy in for $10 at .25/.50.
5. If you double up at 10/20 ($800), you have completed Dwarfman's NL Ring Challenge.
6. NLHE Ring only!!
7. If you go just over your next level target (eg. going to $23 at .25/.50), you still must buy in for the minimum at the next level.
8. Full ring OR 6 max are both allowed.
9. You may pull out at any stage if you wish, however you will lose out on satisfaction!!
10. If you complete the challenge, we would love to see your hand history, make sure you store them!
11. You are allowed to play this challenge at any Party skins or Pokerstars.

Steps

.25/.50 - $10
.50/1 - $20
1/2 - $40
2/4 - $80
3/6 - $120
5/10 - $200
10/20 - $400

If you double up to $800 at 10/20 NL, you WIN.

Please note that it is very, very, very hard to complete this challenge, if you do I will be thoroughly impressed!

The reason I made it is because it is an opportunity to play very high stakes and it will only cost you $10 if you lose.

Good luck and have fun - remember to post your best runs here!

Do you have to sit at one table until you have either busted out or made enough to move up? I.e. - once I accept this challenge and get to the 2/4 table can I leave the table if I get up to say $110 and then try and win my $10 to get to the next level at a different 2/4 table?

Originally Posted by chardrian

Originally Posted by dwarfman

OK, here's a challenge for you, and it will only cost you $10!

The challenge is to start off by buying into a .25/.50 NL ring game for the minimum, $10. Then as you make the minimum for the next level, you MUST move up and buy in for the minimum there, then you progress up.

Rules

1. You MUST buy in for the minimum in each level.
2. You can only move up once you have reached the minimum buy in for the next level above you (eg. you must make it to $20 playing .25/.50 to move up).
3. Once you have reached the minimum buy in for the next level, you MUST go there immediately.
4. If you bust out at any stage, you have to go back to the beginning and buy in for $10 at .25/.50.
5. If you double up at 10/20 ($800), you have completed Dwarfman's NL Ring Challenge.
6. NLHE Ring only!!
7. If you go just over your next level target (eg. going to $23 at .25/.50), you still must buy in for the minimum at the next level.
8. Full ring OR 6 max are both allowed.
9. You may pull out at any stage if you wish, however you will lose out on satisfaction!!
10. If you complete the challenge, we would love to see your hand history, make sure you store them!
11. You are allowed to play this challenge at any Party skins or Pokerstars.

Steps

.25/.50 - $10
.50/1 - $20
1/2 - $40
2/4 - $80
3/6 - $120
5/10 - $200
10/20 - $400

If you double up to $800 at 10/20 NL, you WIN.

Please note that it is very, very, very hard to complete this challenge, if you do I will be thoroughly impressed!

The reason I made it is because it is an opportunity to play very high stakes and it will only cost you $10 if you lose.

Good luck and have fun - remember to post your best runs here!

Do you have to sit at one table until you have either busted out or made enough to move up? I.e. - once I accept this challenge and get to the 2/4 table can I leave the table if I get up to say $110 and then try and win my $10 to get to the next level at a different 2/4 table?

You must sit at one table only for each level.

Summary thus far:

- Busted out on Level 1 3 straight times before advancing
- After finally advancing past Level 1, I doubled up in Level 2 after just 4 hands
- Busted out on Level 3 when my pockets A's lost to a flopped flush

Back to the drawing board.

I busted out after my second hand on level 1 when my straight on the turn against 2 pair got oofed on the river and turned the villains two pair into a boat.

2nd attempt and 8 hands later I'm at level two. 13 hands later at level 3. Unfortunately I am in limbo right now because this was on Paradise and the server kept crashing. I am at $59.25 at level 3 and will buy in with this amount when I next try to conquer this challenge.

Originally Posted by chardrian

I busted out after my second hand on level 1 when my straight on the turn against 2 pair got oofed on the river and turned the villains two pair into a boat.

2nd attempt and 8 hands later I'm at level two. 13 hands later at level 3. Unfortunately I am in limbo right now because this was on Paradise and the server kept crashing. I am at $59.25 at level 3 and will buy in with this amount when I next try to conquer this challenge.

Since that is due to server crashes, that's fine.

No-one on level 4 yet!! Come on guys!!

I haven't got past level 2 yet.

Well here is my Dwarfman Challenge history as it currently stands. I am not posting any hand histories, so it will be up to you to believe or not. Why I would lie about something like this I have no idea. Anyway, here it is.

Failed Attempts:
Attempt #1: (Busted out Level #1) -$10
Attempt #2: (Busted out Level #1) -$10
Attempt #3: (Busted out Level #1) -$10
Attempt #4: (Busted out Level #3) -$6.45

Current Attempt:
Attempt #5:
(Level #1 - $50 NL) $10 -> $23.05
(Level #2 - $100 NL) $20 -> $42.30
(Level #3 - $200 NL) $40 -> $119
(Level #4 - $400 NL) $80 -> $139.10

Gonna let today end on a good note. Probably tackle Level #5 tomorrow. Wish me luck!

Originally Posted by jmrogers7

Well here is my Dwarfman Challenge history as it currently stands. I am not posting any hand histories, so it will be up to you to believe or not. Why I would lie about something like this I have no idea. Anyway, here it is.

Failed Attempts:
Attempt #1: (Busted out Level #1) -$10
Attempt #2: (Busted out Level #1) -$10
Attempt #3: (Busted out Level #1) -$10
Attempt #4: (Busted out Level #3) -$6.45

Current Attempt:
Attempt #5:
(Level #1 - $50 NL) $10 -> $23.05
(Level #2 - $100 NL) $20 -> $42.30
(Level #3 - $200 NL) $40 -> $119
(Level #4 - $400 NL) $80 -> $139.10

Gonna let today end on a good note. Probably tackle Level #5 tomorrow. Wish me luck!

Congrats on getting furthest out of anyone so far, good luck!

The dream is over

$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, August 13, 19:05:46 EDT 2005
Table Table 36558 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: Blinckme ( $240.15 )
Seat 4: thewisdom ( $582 )
Seat 5: whtkngt ( $805.35 )
Seat 6: yehuday ( $271 )
Seat 7: gmmike ( $664.10 )
Seat 8: febj3030 ( $554.50 )
Seat 9: MR_PLAYA_ ( $49.25 )
Seat 10: MagicPig ( $601.50 )
Seat 2: blaidan4 ( $114 )
Seat 1: BrownBonnet ( $600 )
gmmike posts small blind [$3].
febj3030 posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to blaidan4 [ Ks Kd ]
MR_PLAYA_ folds.
MagicPig folds.
blaidan4 raises [$15].
Blinckme calls [$15].
thewisdom folds.
whtkngt folds.
yehuday folds.
gmmike calls [$12].
febj3030 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, Jh, 7c ]
gmmike checks.
blaidan4 bets [$35].
Blinckme raises [$125].
gmmike folds.
blaidan4 is all-In [$64]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8s ]
** Dealing River ** [ 6h ]
Blinckme shows [ Qc, 9c ] a straight, eight to queen.
blaidan4 doesn't show [ Ks, Kd ] a pair of kings.
Blinckme wins $26 from side pot #1 with a straight, eight to queen.
Blinckme wins $246 from the main pot with a straight, eight to queen.


Probably should have raised more preflop but oh well.

Im conviced this is +ev through atleast the first 2 levels.

By just picking passive preflop tables, you can choose when to gamble after the flop which chops up a lot of variance.

-'rilla

OMG JEFF DID IT I SAW IT ALL HE WON HE KICKS ASS AND WINS LOTS OF MONEY!!! HES A SHARK!!!

HES A ROUNDER BABY!

-'rilla

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

OMG JEFF DID IT I SAW IT ALL HE WON HE KICKS ASS AND WINS LOTS OF MONEY!!! HES A SHARK!!!

HES A ROUNDER BABY!

-'rilla

ROFL.

I did win it, I've got to get the hands now and I'll post them.

Here you Go:

#Game No : 2553944537
***** Hand History for Game 2553944537 *****
$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, August 17, 23:57:55 EDT 2005
Table Table 36682 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: JadeStar ( $199.35 )
Seat 2: Rumi_Mowlana ( $105.55 )
Seat 5: cmckid ( $653.90 )
Seat 9: Pokergolf333 ( $481.30 )
Seat 4: CodeRedRuled ( $39.85 )
Seat 6: green9333 ( $125.30 )
Seat 10: davey16 ( $176.90 )
Seat 8: SCARDHERIZON ( $74.60 )
Seat 7: farmedfish ( $198 )
Seat 3: ggoodeno75 ( $195 )
farmedfish posts small blind [$1].
SCARDHERIZON posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to CodeRedRuled [ Qd Qh ]
Pokergolf333 folds.
davey16 folds.
JadeStar folds.
Rumi_Mowlana calls [$2].
ggoodeno75 folds.
CodeRedRuled is all-In [$39.85]
cmckid folds.
green9333 folds.
farmedfish calls [$38.85].
SCARDHERIZON folds.
Rumi_Mowlana folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, 2s, Ah ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
farmedfish shows [ Qs, Js ] a pair of aces.
CodeRedRuled shows [ Qd, Qh ] two pairs, aces and queens.
CodeRedRuled wins $80.70 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and queens.
Game #2553950268 starts.

First Hand at the Table:

#Game No : 2553975014
***** Hand History for Game 2553975014 *****
$400 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, August 18, 00:02:42 EDT 2005
Table Table 40492 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: BADBOYHERE ( $334.34 )
Seat 3: Cubbies1979 ( $120.60 )
Seat 4: mrglazena ( $207.30 )
Seat 5: mysaint ( $81 )
Seat 6: splashthap0t ( $405.60 )
Seat 2: CodeRedRuled ( $80 )
BADBOYHERE posts small blind [$2].
CodeRedRuled posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to CodeRedRuled [ Qh Kc ]
Cubbies1979 folds.
mrglazena folds.
mysaint calls [$4].
splashthap0t raises [$15].
BADBOYHERE folds.
CodeRedRuled is all-In [$76]
mysaint folds.
splashthap0t calls [$65].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, As, 5d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qc ]
** Dealing River ** [ 8d ]
splashthap0t shows [ Jh, Js ] a pair of jacks.
CodeRedRuled shows [ Qh, Kc ] a pair of queens.
CodeRedRuled wins $164 from the main pot with a pair of queens.
Game #2553980244 starts.


#Game No : 2554177289
***** Hand History for Game 2554177289 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, August 18, 00:35:41 EDT 2005
Table Table 48893 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Hepjak ( $515.60 )
Seat 2: nasty90210 ( $322.40 )
Seat 4: TSUNAMMI ( $923.01 )
Seat 5: bfejeran ( $442.99 )
Seat 6: CodeRedRuled ( $168 )
Seat 3: clyde8205 ( $533.45 )
nasty90210 posts small blind [$3].
clyde8205 is sitting out.
TSUNAMMI posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to CodeRedRuled [ Jd Th ]
bfejeran calls [$6].
CodeRedRuled is all-In [$168]
Hepjak folds.
nasty90210 folds.
TSUNAMMI calls [$162].
bfejeran folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, 3d, 4s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9s ]
** Dealing River ** [ Jc ]
TSUNAMMI shows [ As, Kh ] high card ace.
CodeRedRuled shows [ Jd, Th ] a pair of jacks.
CodeRedRuled wins $343 from the main pot with a pair of jacks.
Game #2554181770 starts.

Tsunammi then follows me to this table:

#Game No : 2554217967
***** Hand History for Game 2554217967 *****
$1000 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, August 18, 00:42:40 EDT 2005
Table Table 36758 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 3: WillSmokeU5K ( $1197.25 )
Seat 4: Podsquad1 ( $523.50 )
Seat 5: stevesbets_ ( $1639 )
Seat 6: KP4Life ( $907 )
Seat 1: CodeRedRuled ( $185 )
Seat 2: TSUNAMMI ( $475.75 )
TSUNAMMI posts small blind [$5].
WillSmokeU5K posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to CodeRedRuled [ As Ac ]
Podsquad1 raises [$45].
stevesbets_ folds.
CodeRedRuled is all-In [$185]
TSUNAMMI folds.
WillSmokeU5K folds.
Podsquad1 calls [$140].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2d, 7d, 9c ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
Podsquad1 shows [ Qs, Jd ] high card queen.
CodeRedRuled shows [ As, Ac ] a pair of aces.
CodeRedRuled wins $383 from the main pot with a pair of aces.
Game #2554220361 starts.



#Game No : 2554294592
***** Hand History for Game 2554294592 *****
$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, August 18, 00:56:38 EDT 2005
Table Table 51973 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: xavier262 ( $1182.20 )
Seat 4: FinalTheory ( $6252.38 )
Seat 5: smccann ( $4636.50 )
Seat 8: Megan10 ( $856.75 )
Seat 10: B_Budddy ( $2343 )
Seat 6: CodeRedRuled ( $440 )
Seat 2: pokernacho ( $1980 )
Seat 7: farmedfish ( $467 )
Seat 3: dbw99 ( $1960 )
Seat 9: DirtyDawg1 ( $418 )
farmedfish posts small blind [$10].
DirtyDawg1 posts big blind [$20].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to CodeRedRuled [ Tc Ts ]
CodeRedRuled: i will, but you have to send me 50 first, because i heard interaccount transfers werent working
B_Budddy calls [$20].
xavier262 calls [$20].
pokernacho folds.
pOkerSmOt: wait waht?
dbw99 calls [$20].
pokernacho: LMAO
FinalTheory raises [$160].
smccann folds.
pOkerSmOt: im saying ill send through paypal
CodeRedRuled is all-In [$440]
farmedfish folds.
pOkerSmOt: not through here tho cuz my debit card isnt accepted
DirtyDawg1 folds.
B_Budddy folds.
xavier262 folds.
dbw99 folds.
FinalTheory calls [$280].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, 9s, 4d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 6h ]
FinalTheory shows [ Ks, Ah ] a pair of nines.
CodeRedRuled shows [ Tc, Ts ] two pairs, tens and nines.
CodeRedRuled wins $967 from the main pot with two pairs, tens and nines.
WOAH
Game #2554300169 starts.

CONGRATS JEFF!!!

Nice one Jeff, now who was it saying you wouldn't have to win a bunch of coinflips even when dominated occasionally?

The KQ hand was the best. We were yelling at him to push and he's like "Oh, ok." and then immediately realized it was a horrible push and that he has to hope op has 99-JJ and not any other raising hand.

JT was also key since the guy who lost the hand followed Jeff to tell him "J 10 OFF SUIT!" just as Jeff tables AA to win that level and reply "A A OFF SUIT"

The TT when the 6k stack raises everyone's like "He's drawing to 2 outs, omg!" then after he shows AK everyone says "Teh, that was clearly an AK raise."

g00t times.

-'rilla

I won Dwarfman's Challenge, I need a cool crown or something to put here.

Very nice jeff. I wonder if my praying all donaters would win phat money had anything to do with it :P :P :P :P - Well whether it did or not nice work and im gonna keep on prayin that everyone wins phat money and win all coin flips!!!!!!!! Amen

wow congrats jeff nice turning 10 into 1k..


-anto

Maybe it was the karma that did it This little challenge has to be +EV. Also, I didn't really do too many stupid things, like go allin randomly and stuff. I did just camp for my hands and do well.

I actually netted $1200 on this thing and not $1k, a couple of the pots won me past the original buy-in. I do think its funny that a LHE player won this thing first, and I know nothing at all about NL strategy.

I did say after I pushed with KQo "OMG, KQ is such a bad hand" And when I was called with my JT I thought I was a gonner too. The other hands played themselves, once I got past the 100 NL games I feel it was a lot easier, I was having a hard time trying to get to $80.

I just noticed this challenge and I am gonna try this. I dont like playing short stacked but I will take this as a good practise.

and Congratulations to Jeff!!

EDIT: Level 1 completed with first try. One key hand, AJ on SB. flopped top 2, bet the pot on flop, got one caller, AI which was the size of the pot on turn and he called with A5. Also stole some blinds, going AI on SB when folded in nl50 is fun!