Drive to $100NL (still the same thread)

[TerryToma]

2 1600x1200 monitors would be nice.

[jyms]

I have 1 that does 1600x900, and 1 thats 1280x1024. If It doesn't come from the poker money, I can't get it. That's what the boss said. so as soon as it's feesable. My overlap is not that bad compared to some. They are on the list.

[jyms]

Does this mean I play too much poker

Hi trainerJyms,
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You've tested the waters and you've come out tops!

CONGRATULATIONS trainerJyms, you completed the October Rookie's Deal in 1st position and we are pleased to say that your account has been credited with $250.

You can now look forward to swimming with the Sharks!

See you at the tables,

I withdrew everything from Riverbelle last week. Got this email today. It's based on games played at the tables. I had no Idea about the promo or that I was winning. F'n Eh! I take back what I've said in the past about riverbelle.

[jyms]

I've taken some serious beats in the last three days. Down 4+ buyins at $25NL. I need to slow down, play two tables instead of four. I have leaks, somewhere. Not sure where. I'm going to read NLHE T&P over the next few days. Maybe that'll point something out. Have some freinds from here talking me off the ledge, haha. Look at these stats and tell me if anything is glaringly obvious. Keep in mind, I'm trying to find some major problem, not some little minor edge that I can use. I'm losing at a consistant rate, at $25NL. This is my last 10k hands



I'm not sure if it's playing to aggressive with medium hands and going to showdown when they don't give it up. Or am I overvalueing my hand on certain boards? I really feel that I have not hit my share of sets. They are not getting paid for sure when I do. I sem to never hit them and when I have a rare shot with one there is a scare card that they all fold to. Or I get my ass handed to me by some straight chaser that catches. twice last night I bet hard with a set and the villian had flopped a straight. Just unlucky I know.

[jyms]

So a quick update. Haven't had time to post anything stats or hands wise. I only get to FTR (yes, I use it as a verb sometimes) at work lately. I'm 1/3 of the way thru NLHE T&P and have grinded my BR to $400 in Neteller and have $275 US on poker plex with $180 in monthly's to clear. I have found my groove at the $25NL on Crypto and am playing well. I am up and down a couple buy ins so far since moving to plex but it's working out well. I am basically playing to break even and not get stacked to often while clearing the bonuses. I blew off most of my $250 bonus from Sun trying to clear the 1500 MPP's and left there with $350 after getting down to less than $120 from a $300 deposit.

I find if I play a little tighter and get out of bad situations early, it's an easy game. I may be leaving some value there but with the limited BR why play an even higher variance game. What I am finding is it's real hard to play some of these Loose Aggressives that really suck. I need more aggression in my game for sure, because they get me off of marginal, but winning, hands too often. What would be a good start for aggression stats at the $25NL and soon to be $50NL tables. I'm shooting for $50NL in the new year. I think it's easily doable if i'm not intimidated by some players. There is only one player at $25NL that's consistantly doing that, not from skills, but the horrific and luckbox style that is used. This girl has stacked me several times when I have almost certainly always got it all-in while ahead.

[jyms]

Here's what I hope to accomplish with this thread and poker in general.

>Stop playing out of my roll.
I know this is wrong, no matter how good you think you are, because the swings and short term variance is a killer.

DONE, I have experimented with some 1 table £25NL and $50NL with almost $900 on friday and saturday late night and I'm up £25 and $35 respectively.

>Get my bankroll up to $500 to play $25NL properly rolled.
This may take a while, but in order to feel that I'm actually winning this will be my first magic number.

DONE, I'm actually at $895 as of Nov. 17th/06

>>Play 20+ hours a week.
This is not a major problem with winter coming and and agreement I have with the wife.

DONE, Killed it!! I may have, since starting this thread, played closer to 35+ hrs a week.
>I won a rookie deal at prima (most hands played in Oct/06 for a new account)
>I was in 4th place on Sun's Ring leader board, I'm in 18th now and haven't played there since the 12th, I cleared the 1500 MPP's needed for the bonuses ( I have 32% of $548 in rake to come from Sun alone)
>I have Only 250 MPP's left for the 1000 needed to earn my $200 monthly bonus and already have 30% of $315 in rake there without finishing yet.

>Start posting some hands and get some input into my play.
instead of having to rely on myself all the time. I also want to start spending more time in the stategy forum than the commune.

DONE, man did you guys come thru. Thanks for the help.

>move the computer desk out of the living room
If I'm going to do this, I'm going to get serious and give myself the right enviroment.

Just DONE. This can only help.

I will add to this post as my goals change or if I come up with anymore.

So time for some new goals.

>Start playing $50NL in the next week or two when I clear this last $100 in bonus at Poker plex and be full time by the new year.

>I still need to try an get $1000 withdrawn before December. This is some pressure. I want to Xmas shop with this money if possible. (It may put me back to $500 but I can get $300 in monthlys in Dec. plus rakeback + other bonuses. I am going to whore Xmas vacation away.

>I may be off thru Xmas, depending on if I get booked for surgery or not, for my arm. If I do, I will be killing the hours online. If this happens before Xmas, I want to play all the casino bonuses I can muster since I will have time.

>Lastly, 40K hands by January 31st and a shot at a $2500 bankroll to move to $100NL. This is not a monetary goal, but a hope, it's doable if I play the amount of hands I'm capable of and play well.

[Anosmic]

So far so good, mate.
Cool to see you're ready to break into $50NL... and it's a sick amount of poker you've been playing!

Good luck with the next few targets.

[jyms]

$50NL??????? Is the drive complete, or would you stay at $25NL and clear the monthlys at Poker plex and Sun poker first? If I take a shot, how big a shot do I take? I'm thinking 2 tables instead of 4 and get the feel maybe two tables of each. I've tried them on the weekends late and am at -$35 after 3K hands with fear for the $$$. Is that alot of rake for $25NL. I coulda played more. I ended up playing 30K+ hands of ring plus some tourneys at stars and crypto in November.

[biondino]

In terms of experience, you should be ready for $50. I worry that your high-variance game might appreciate more of a cushion before you move up. Also, how come you're playing so much but not making more money? Are you cashing out? Or are you only a marginal winner? If it's the latter I think you need to make every effort to deal with your leaks - there's really no excuse to be making less than say 4BB/100 at $25.

[jyms]

Your absolutely right, High variance, no money. I have swings every seesion of $50 or $100 bucks. I need to really look at my game. I don't think it's something in the stats. Maybe I'll post my November numbers when I get home. My paker grapher looks like an obsticle course.

As for the move up, nope, got my ass handed to me on 3 hands. AA ran into quads, set into quads, and my A high flush got rivered by a boat, all for stacks. I need to find out what it is, and not those beats but the fact that alot of my bigger pots are for stacks. it's not uncommon for me to have 8 or more $25 pots in the win and loss columns over a 1K hand session.

[Warpe]

Look at how often you are stacking off with TP/2p. Pull those hands and see if you could have got away from them.

[jyms]

I know without looking that one of my problems is playing TPTK too aggressive. This level of players will call without odds.

If as an example, I have AK in the cutoff, 55/15 UTG raises to 4BB and I call. Flop is Axx with a flush draw, he bets 4 BB, I raiseto 12 BB and he calls, turn comes non flush card, he checks, I 3/4 bet the pot about 25 or so BB and he calls.

Now no matter what falls, this is my dillema, flush card falls, do I pay him off for making those calls, because you would not believe the amount of 64s flushs I see, or some other weak ass suited hand. many times it's bottom 2 pair, or Ax thats hit it's miracle kicker on the turn or river. I have a real problem with the difference between pot control and showing weakness.

I play for stacks way too much, winning my fair share, but rarely ever getting it in behind. Is it a matter of not respecting the weaker players that still do get real hands. I may not have the best lines to play with TPTK and get to deep. It's not unlucky or bad beats because I'm sure that the stats would show it different and I refuse to think I'm unlucky, generally.

[jyms]

In terms of experience, you should be ready for $50. I worry that your high-variance game might appreciate more of a cushion before you move up. Also, how come you're playing so much but not making more money? Are you cashing out? Or are you only a marginal winner? If it's the latter I think you need to make every effort to deal with your leaks - there's really no excuse to be making less than say 4BB/100 at $25.

I haven't cashed anything yet. I was at $220 on riverbelle back in the middle of October

PostPosted: Fri, 13 Oct 2006, 12:51pm So, thanks so far guys. Halfway thru october and I'm at $220

So am I off, should I have made more? I'm sure I could have when looking back. There was some bad stackins lost on not believing someone had the hand he had, or not getting away early enough in the hands I was way behind. There was nights when I went too long when I was up a couple buy-ins or sitting at a bad table because of the stacks that were there and how much of the money was mine.

[givememyleg]

Nice to see you stick through this and come back positive!

Glad to see the drive is nearly complete - hope you run well at 50nl and can make a new drive to 100nl thread!

[jyms]

HELP!!! I'm getting killed. I tried £25 and hit a bad run. I know what a bad run is, I will accept the bad run. I lost £100 ($200) and moved down. I proceeded to lose more and more. What would be the best way to correct a problem you can't find. Has anyone had this problem. My game has way too much variance. I play 6max (FR on crypto is obscure at best) and I know that causes some. How do you lower the variance card? I have leaks, I must, but it's hard to find. If I play tight, I have swings of $100 or more. If I play looser pre flop and Weaktight post flop, I still have the swings. I don't think having me select a few hands to post is going to fix this. Should I just post my last 5K, 10K or 30K hands stats from last month. It's definitly a post flop problem. Going to far with mediocre hands. I'm sure. But I win as many stacks as I lose. Would you try short stacking a while to reduce the variance, or does that even help. NLHE T&P is just making it worse (maybe i should restart it and finish it eh?). I tried to see more flops cheaply last night, against loose opponents ( 45+/10 table stats on all 4) and get out when missing.

Thanks, I feel better already.

When I get home I will cut and paste all my stats from November and post them, maybe something will jump out. I'm going to retry analizing my PT stats (from the 2+2 thread) and maybe someone can rail me on a couple tables in aim or MSN one day this week. You Euro guys have helped loads, but your not there at 11 p.m. E.S.T. when I'm stinkin' up the tables.

[biondino]

TJ, my stats at 6max £25 (which I killed) were roughly:

Overall VP 25, PFR 12
Button 30/19
UTG 11/7
Post flop aggression factor of 3
Check your position stats and your aggression stats - they should give a clear education if things aren't right.

Start laying down more marginal holdings. Don't call all-ins without top two plus unless you have a great read. Make a lot of positional raises and cbets (incl. donk bets) but fold if you hit proper resistance.

Remember that most plays are honest - people will try and re-raise your cbets with air etc. but by and large, they don't. When you are in a pot, make sure you are controlling it as much as possible. Avoid unecessary coin flips. Don't slowplay. When you make a bet or a move, make sure you know what you want and how you'll react to whatever they do. Don't try and bully in multiway pots and if you do (and sometimes on a weak table, it's a good idea), fold when necessary. Bet 2nd pair and strong draws hard - you always want to be putting the opposition to decisions. Fold on a three flush river if someone has been calling and then bets big. Make some re-raises and believe it when people play back at you.

This could just be a downswing - indeed it probably is, you're probably still a decent player. Maybe stay at $25NL for now, get your confidence back. There's no point in loosening up pre-flop when you're not confident in your post-flop play. Play borderline nitty if you like - aim for a PFR that's 3/4 of your VP. Make position your god. Don't worry about image. Take notes.

How's that?

[kmind]

How's that?

Bravo! Thank you

[jyms]

UTG 11/7

These are already a problem for me. My UTG stats are much higher I'm sure. I've been playing UTG more like MP1 as if playing SB, BB, MP1, MP2, cutoff, button.

Post flop aggression factor of 3

My Aggression is not much above 2 This I'm sure of as well. I fought long and hard to get it to there. Should I aim for more of an aggro? I absolutely know they are tough to play but I do know how to play against them.

Start laying down more marginal holdings. Don't call all-ins without top two plus unless you have a great read. Make a lot of positional raises and cbets (incl. donk bets)

I have gotten much better at this. Still have a small problem with not folding that last bet on the river when they called all the way with bad odds. It seems that it's not the good players that stack me or win big pots against me. It's when the calling station or xtra loose player hits that miracle str8 or 65o for a FH that I spend too much trying to get them off of a draw they already hit or take their money thinking they have TPWK.

How's that?

Great since you haven't seen my stats yet and nailed me. I will try and post some things in a couple hours to get more feedback, including positional , aggression and other stats.

[jyms]

Here we go. Don't hold back, I suck, but anything glaringly obvious except the red $$$ figures. This is my first glance at PT stats for the month myself, I am actually a little shocked at my numbers. My raising is lower than I thought, much lower. My first in stats are horrendous, and feel free to give me shit about the SB, WTF is that. I know better than this. WOW!! Am I that stupid? Is it that simple. Stop playing from the SB without premium hands, Or are my other positions behind and not making up for obvious losses from the blinds? I am ahead in Diff w/o blind, but can this be more or is it fine. I'm definitly completing to much. So what I've done is added my stats to the table Hud so I can keep an eye on myself. I know that I cant predict my VPIP on such a short session but I may be able to watch my raising and aggression. Does eanyone else agree or not about shooting for a 3 AF? I will until I see or hear otherwise. Biondino seems to know how to kill the $25NL at crypto , I'm just worried about playing more aggro than I'm used to.

[biondino]

The reason my post- flop aggression stats are higher than yours is because I don't call very often. If I have a hand or I want to (semi)bluff, I bet; if I have a good draw, I bet; if villains play back at me and I don't have a hand I want to continue with, I fold.

Another big reason why I can be more aggro post-flop: I'm seldom in multiway pots because I am usually raising pre-flop for isolation, so I'll be betting and folding far more than I am calling.

Your PFR stat is a bit too low for 6max, I think. You MUST bet your strong hands and you MUST bet with position. You are calling 2/3 of your hands on the button - this lets in crappy speculative hands, Ax hands and the like, and effectively negates the opportunity to use position to its fullest. You should be raising at least 2/3 of the time on the button - you should NEVER limp if folded to.

In one sentence: when you choose to play, play hard and fast but be prepared to fold.

[givememyleg]

Raise more hands, be more aggressive, learn not to stack off with tp and the like. You go to showdown 27% of the time and only win 48% of them; this is much too low.

Yeah your sb stats are purty bad. I'm not sure what you're doing because your vpip fromt he sb isn't abnormally high by any means. You must be completing with lukewarm hands like KT and playing for stacks when a K hits, or something of the like. I think you should filter for hands in the sb/going to showdown and losing.

Post some hands. Filter "Went to showdown and lost." You can ask if you're stacking off when you should. Losing after 1k hands could be variance, losing after 10k hands can even be some bad bad variance, but losing after 35k hands needs some re-evaluation and you need to change your play. I don't think you're ready for 50nl yet.

[jyms]

If you guys were trying to increase your aggression, where would you start. I hover around the 1.4 to 1.7 AF post flop. I find that the 2.5 to 3.0 guys are the toughest to play against. Any higher and you just reraise with any decent hand, they are typically folding or pushing so it's easy. I have found that most guys that reraise my c-bet and then fire a second barrel on the turn, or call my re raise post flop and fire on the turn, the toughest spots to play in. When I try to get more aggressive on the turn cards with mediocre hands, i find it gets expensive alot of times. Losing monies I've earned already. Where is the easiest place to gain aggression and not have to put yourself in bad positions with smaller holdings. When looking at my chart above, owuld just not calling as much on the flop and turns be enough. I generally call pot sized C-bets with TPTK, TP and a draw, and draws depending on opponents. What is some lines for re_raising the flop, will you fire second barrels with draws if stacks are deep enough. How about a PP with overs on the board.

By the way, no way is a Str8 and Flushdraw on the flop 54% to the river. I don't hit them EVER. I've lost a ton on these. And sets, 1 in 11 my ass.

[Warpe]

The cheapest place to increase your aggression postflop is on the flop. Start raising your TPTK hands and raising flush and oesds for free river cards. You'd be surprised at how many c-bets you pick off on the flop, and how often you get checked to, to either fire a second barrel and take it down or to take your free card. Raise weak-tight opponents when they make weaksauce bets and you have a piece. Raise with air in position when checked to. Raise raise raise...

[biondino]

TJ, see my post of 5th December. I suspect you're aggressive enough with good hands, but you're obviously calling too much (your stats don't lie) and this might be why you can't get your AF over 2.

[jyms]

I did this last night, I started rolling at £25NL, was up £85 after 100 hands, 4 tabling. but things slowed, too many callers, too many catching cards, just slowly got into the negitives and reverted back to my old ways and played even the rest of the night. Couldn't get it back. i think I'm having the problem more with playing aggressive when running bad, and start looking to hit again, instead of pushing them off their bad hands.

[jyms]

If not for bonuses, prizes and rakeback, I'd be done for good. I'm going to slow down and take more time to learn. I need to start a new BR building campaign but based on learning winning poker. I'm basically a losing player if not for those extras that are put in my account. I have some leaks that have been Identified. Some have not I'm sure. I won't post a hand or two,because I don't feel being able to pick my hands to post will do any good, but will let anyone who wants to have a look, give you my most recent session. Pelion already offered to look at last nights 600+ hand debacle, where I flopped 1 set all night and lost $108 on the $25NL tables at crypto, and will let me know if it's my game or just a bad run. Yes I have run terrible lately, but not for 71K hands and I don't have an upswing of any significance. That downswing is right when I switched to Cryptologic on Oct. 30th and started clearing monthly bonuses at sun and pokerplex plus started getting rakeback.

[Kauf Jr.]

Update please!

As to your problem, that graph chocked me a bit, since I had the impression that you were having succes. I think it would help you if you tightend up alot 23 vpip is a lot, escpecially when you are playing a these stakes where you don't need to play hands to hide your hands. If you cut 5% of this number you won't end up in a lot of tricky situations where you forgot why you even played the hand and get in trouble. Futhermore you will save a ton of bbs limping in with a small chance of winning the pot. Other than that you should start working alot more on blind stealing, that number should be around 30%. Theese two things alone would really add up to your BB/100.

Just tried to find a link to a brilliant post on blind stealing from the 2+2 forum, but I could not find it.

[jyms]

I have actually been spending a lot more time reading about poker. I have tried to stay away from the commune here and a lot of other sites, non poker related. I have had a few sessions since seeing that graph myself. I have spent all my time reading and attempting to be more aggressive, pre and post flop. Last night I had a very up and down night, sticking with the program is hard, I have a lot of bad habits. I had to pull myself away from falling into the same patterns several times, and when I did I get myself back to the black.




A couple quick thoughts. I have a post it note now on my computer telling me 5 things.
1) Don't stack off in unraised pots
2) TP sucks ( I know, Not always, but it helps keep it simple)
3) Position counts more than cards
4) Bet sizing, flop=Pot, turn=3/4, river=1/2
5) Take stabs at bigger pots.

This along with trying to get my PFR% to 3/4 of my VP$P is making a huge difference in putting guys on hands, knowing someone out of position has the goods and lowering the variance generally. I think most of the variance you see last night comes from, guys playing 64sooted OOP and getting lucky And I don't give them that respect of calling two large bets, that they hit the miracle card. Also me reverting back to the limp and call with marginal hands when not getting good hands, and getting involved in pots I shouldn't.

I read an article yesterday on (the other site) that really helped about downswings. I'd link it here, but it's been linked since I read it, It's in one of Renton's posts. If you can't find it, ask and i will link it here.

Kauf, thanks for responding. I choked too. I knew I wasn't winning much but that was a wake up for me. I read the article on blind stealing, alot my problems are stemming from not being aggressive and not recognizing who is to my left and the opportunities to steal. My whole game has been wrong. As for VP$P, at 6max I'm now trying to just make sure I have 3/4 PFR%/VP$P. I have been told I will be OK If I focus on position and my raising. It supposedly won't matter too much if I'm 55/40, 30/22 or 15/12 as long as my AF is 2+ and I keep hammering from better position, as long as I can play well post flop. So we will see if that works.

The big drop in December is when I got paid my rakeback and had enough with two crypto monthlies to move up. I took an even bigger beating at £25NL and $50NL. I was so concerned about having the BR, I wasn't checking to see my game was a losing one. I've been able to stay ahead of the losing at $25NL with the amount of hands I play, getting rakeback and monthly bonuses at several sites.

So here it is in a nutshell. I'm playing too much from UTG and MP. I'm not raising enough from everywhere. I don't re raise enough or check raise enough, with good and mediocre hands. I stab at the pot a lot with C-bets but sometimes In a raised pot with 2 callers, the $1 doesn't do it. I have started really paying attention to stack sizes and the pot size, before EVERY action. I still catch myself throwing out 4BB preflop raises without seeing a caller or two. I still catch myself making $1 bets on the flop when I have raised it up preflop and the pot is $2+. I also catch myself not betting and getting into a check call situation post flop with draws. Let's see how this year finishes out.

[Kauf Jr.]

Glad your still working on your play despite a few problems! Your plan is sounding very good and wellthought out, if you keep analysing and working on your play like this I won't take you long to beat the shit out of 25NL! I'm afraid that I can't be of any help to your 6-max game as I still enjoy nutcamping FR

If I should sum up 3 things to beat 25NL it would be:

1. Agression
2. Position
3. Avoid trouble (Even if it means missing some +EV)

Looking forward to getting more updates now that you are back at playing again

[gnads]

I have been told I will be OK If I focus on position and my raising. It supposedly won't matter too much if I'm 55/40, 30/22 or 15/12 as long as my AF is 2+ and I keep hammering from better position, as long as I can play well post flop.

I think this is only good advice if you are really confident in your post flop play. If you are running at 30/22 you are going to be putting yourself in alot of marginal situations.

Why not make it easy on yourself and tighten up considerably in EP to start with? I started mucking alot of marginal hands PF (sc's, KJ, AT, etc) in EP/MP initially and my swings stabilized. Now I'm slowly starting to add in some of these when I'm comfortable with the table and I'm playing well.

EDIT: just read Kauf Jr's post. Basically what he said:

3. Avoid trouble (Even if it means missing some +EV)

[jyms]

Converter sucks I'm sorry. I needed to vent before I go back and play 500 more hands to clear the $100 bonus left on my account. How do you not kill somebody when this doesn't stop. I'm trying not to let this thread be a bad beat thread but FUCK. It never stops. Thanks for letting me blow some steam. It's not like the wife wants to hear it.


Game #2947089063: Hold'em NL ($0.15/$0.25) - 2007/01/01 - 01:50:33 (GMT)
Table "OLyonnaisFC" Seat 4 is the button.
Seat 1: kostos ($25.20 in chips)
Seat 2: Sjbrad ($5.75 in chips)
Seat 3: Cinimod ($24 in chips)
Seat 4: 13jyms ($21.55 in chips)
Seat 5: Babyria ($45.35 in chips)
Seat 6: Uggmiest ($14.66 in chips)
Babyria: posts small blind $0.15
Uggmiest: posts big blind $0.25
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to 13jyms [Kh Kd]
kostos: folds
Sjbrad: calls $0.25
Cinimod: raises to $1.50
13jyms: raises to $3.50
Babyria: folds
Uggmiest: folds
Sjbrad: folds
Cinimod: raises to $24 and is all-in
13jyms: is all-in $18.05
Returned uncalled bets $2.45 to Cinimod
----- FLOP ----- [9h 4h 9d]
----- TURN ----- [9h 4h 9d][Ts]
----- RIVER ----- [9h 4h 9d Ts][Qc]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Cinimod: shows [Qs Qd] (A Full House, Queens full of Nines)
13jyms: shows [Kh Kd] (Two Pairs, Kings and Nines, Queen high)
Cinimod collected $41.60 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----

Game #2946933663: Hold'em NL ($0.15/$0.25) - 2007/01/01 - 01:43:20 (GMT)
Table "Arneb" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: Acelil ($21.78 in chips)
Seat 2: Frankie59 ($18.70 in chips)
Seat 3: Toosher ($19.63 in chips)
Seat 4: Mkfinest ($12.17 in chips)
Seat 5: 13jyms ($18.31 in chips)
Seat 6: Bluemonke ($33.75 in chips)
Frankie59: posts small blind $0.15
Toosher: posts big blind $0.25
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to 13jyms [Kd Kh]
Mkfinest: calls $0.25
13jyms: raises to $1.25
Bluemonke: folds
Acelil: folds
Frankie59: calls $1.10
Toosher: raises to $2.25
Mkfinest: folds
13jyms: raises to $18.31 and is all-in
Frankie59: folds
Toosher: calls $16.06
----- FLOP ----- [3d Ad Th]
----- TURN ----- [3d Ad Th][2c]
----- RIVER ----- [3d Ad Th 2c][Ks]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
13jyms: shows [Kd Kh] (Three of a kind, Kings, Ace high)
Toosher: shows [5d 4d] (A Straight, Five high)
Toosher collected $36.22 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----

Game #2947004483: Hold'em NL ($0.15/$0.25) - 2007/01/01 - 01:33:13 (GMT)
Table "CapeTownWC" Seat 4 is the button.
Seat 1: Niilex2 ($9.16 in chips)
Seat 2: hansengus sits out
Seat 3: OnniBosse sits out
Seat 4: 13jyms ($61.32 in chips)
Seat 5: Thetic ($22.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Youlldo ($31.50 in chips)
Thetic: posts small blind $0.15
Youlldo: posts big blind $0.25
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to 13jyms [Qs As]
Niilex2: calls $0.25
13jyms: raises to $1
Thetic: calls $0.85
Youlldo: folds
Niilex2: calls $0.75
----- FLOP ----- [Qc 3d Qd]
OnniBosse sits back
Thetic: checks
Niilex2: checks
13jyms: bets $1.25
Thetic: raises to $2.50
Niilex2: folds
13jyms: calls $1.25
----- TURN ----- [Qc 3d Qd][8h]
Thetic: bets $3.50
13jyms: calls $3.50
----- RIVER ----- [Qc 3d Qd 8h][2d]
Thetic: bets $4
13jyms: calls $4
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Thetic: shows [8d 7d] (A Flush, Queen high)
13jyms: mucks hand [Qs As]
Thetic collected $22.10 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----

[biondino]

Man, those first two! The last one - dude, you slowplayed a great hand and they sucked out on you. It doesn't really belong in the same category. But still - vul.

Next time we're online at the same time, hit me up - maybe I can rail you and we can discuss tactics etc. Bearing in mind that my first 500 hands after coming back from holiday have been at $25/£25 (to get back into the swing) and I'm down about $50...

[jyms]

Thanks, I will try. I really need an experienced eye from these stakes at crypto. Things don't seem right. i can handle variance but losing hundreds of dollars some weeks is really graining on me and draining the roll fast.

As for the hand I slowplayed. That was a missread. This was a fairly decent sLAG. I had him on JQ or KQ maybe. But I was really more worried he'd hit the FH with a SC and was setting me up for the all in. I was pushing the table around pretty good till that point. I wasn't letting it go, but I wasn't really planning on stacking off to him either. I don't know, maybe I'm just beat in my mind. I lose the feel of hand control for stretches at a time. Thanks.

[pokerroomace]

sorry about that in the chat trainer. my computer was messing up. i'm currently playing $25nl and my bankroll is up to $600 from $0 about a month ago. but my profit from poker is probably about $1500-$2000.
i'm going to move up to $50nl soon. when i reach $900/$1k. but if i drop below $850 i am going to go back to $25nl.
i'm currently playing at pokerroom.

btw, i just read your AQ hand with a flop of QQ3. and i don't like the slowplay. i think you should have made a raise on the turn. and personally i think i may have even reraised on the flop. but maybe because i play a bit too scared.
your opponent made an interesting play this hand. checkraising his flush draw and then betting the turn. i'm not used to plays like this at pokerroom. players play flush draws very conservatively there at $25NL. you very rarely see players betting their flush draws like this.

also, why didn't you move down to $25nl when you're bankroll reached $700/$800? or was it a mistake?

[jyms]

I had $1100+ to try the move. I wasn't going to try just two stacks and drop. I gave myself 6 buy ins at 2tabling and it wen't horrible. Alot of getting it in ahead and stacking off. I dropped back to $25Nl at around $800 which is still 32 buy ins at $25NL, so I had a nice cushion still. The rest is just me, I'm an idiot. Tune in tonight on Ventrilo or FTR chat and watch the demise of a $1100 bankroll live.

[pokerroomace]

I had $1100+ to try the move. I wasn't going to try just two stacks and drop. I gave myself 6 buy ins at 2tabling and it wen't horrible. Alot of getting it in ahead and stacking off. I dropped back to $25Nl at around $800 which is still 32 buy ins at $25NL, so I had a nice cushion still. The rest is just me, I'm an idiot. Tune in tonight on Ventrilo or FTR chat and watch the demise of a $1100 bankroll live.

everybody has bad runs. doesn't mean anything. my BR has gone up and down a million times. and it was because i was an idiot.
but it happens to everybody. especially when starting off.

[jyms]

Well, It's over. I pulled $250 out of crypto and have $100 left there. I am waiting for my rakeback and I will pull that too. I have been destroyed on crypto's 6 max tables while trying to learn to play poker and trying to learn the more aggressive game of 6 max. On Dec. 1st/06 I was at $1100 playing slightly less than break even poker, and have consistantly been fucked, or have fucked up to lose 1/2 my roll. I have had great guys from this site rail me, look at HH's, and spent hours in the chat posting hands to no avail.

It's been said that I have a good game. I just lose focus. Out of the blue I will do stupid things like not letting go of TP to huge aggression, Calling raises with very scary draw heavy boards, and open limping, which I vowed never to do. But when I get into PT and analize all my big hands, there it is again. "LIMP, why the fuck did I limp that", scares the hell out of the wife when she hears me yell that at the computer.

The problem seems to be ingrained bad habits. Like a kid that gets his hand slapped for sucking his thumb. Without even knowing it, it's in their again and BAM, he is as suprised it was in there as much as his mother. "I just told you to stop!" I keep getting my hand slapped, I have post its. I know not to just go to the slider bet willy nilly. It matters. But later that night, click $0.25, click $0.50, click $0.75, click $1.00, C-bet. Fuck, that's a $3 pot asshole. Why the hell did you C-bet $1 into a $3 pot with 2 callers that checked to you on the button with a draw heavy board?

Ya, I yell at myself a lot.

I need to slow down. Play less tables. I tried that last night with $165 dollars left on Crypto while waiting for my withdrawl to complete. I dumped 2 buy in's in 400 hands playing 2 tables. Cold cards, yep. Bad suckouts, Yep. Were you playing your game, no mistakes." I think so, let me check the PT". Ok hand one, this was bad I had QQ in the CO, 1 limp, I raise to 5BB folds to limper who calls, yep. Flop Kxx two clubs, check, I raise, BAM

click $0.25, click $0.50, click $0.75, click $1.00, C-bet. Fuck, that's a $3 pot asshole. Why the hell did you C-bet $1 into a $3 pot with 2 callers that checked to you on the button with a draw heavy board?

MotherF........ I shut it down.

Stay tuned for the new drive to $25NL.

Thanks again guys. In no particular order. Biondino for giving me shit on AIM and while sitting at my tables and railing me. Pelion for chat's in MSN and FTR chat room that have helped alot, even when on his vacation. Spenda, Renton, jager and euph (where'd he go?) for the help in chat room every night. I would be great if two of us could have an upswing at the same time. All you guys posting in this and other threads of mine. I'm not sure if I'm going to continue my drive in this thread, I'm going to set some new goals, and do some research while hammering away at full tilt, THIS IS NOT OVER, poker wins round one, but hell 100K hands is short term right.

[kmind]

Very sad to see this happen. I'll eagerly be awaiting your new drive and hope it goes better for you.

Give 'em hell, TJ!

[IowaSkinsFan]

Trainer, overall looking at your hands your spewing a lot post flop. That 44 hand even though you got bad beaten no way you should've raised the flop, easy fold to the original bet. I'd start looking to tighten up postflop.

I just thought I'd comment even though I haven't made a contribution to this thread yet.

[swiggidy]

Sorry you're not doing well.

But when I get into PT and analize all my big hands, there it is again. "LIMP, why the fuck did I limp that", scares the hell out of the wife when she hears me yell that at the computer.

This made me lol. Maybe you should make videos like Tuff_fish

[givememyleg]

Man this thread is going to be SO awesome when you start winning, are crushing 200+nl and look back and laugh at your graphs. Stick with it man, we're rootin' for you!

[bode]

TJ, where is the bankroll at these days? As you know, i started one of these threads also, so maybe we can use that as a little motivation to see who can get to $25 first. My BR is sitting at $270 right now, so maybe your way ahead of that, but if not id be interested in a small prop bet. let me know what you think.

[bode]

oh, and good luck too. keep at it and you will be back at $50nl in no time.

[jyms]

TJ, where is the bankroll at these days? As you know, i started one of these threads also, so maybe we can use that as a little motivation to see who can get to $25 first. My BR is sitting at $270 right now, so maybe your way ahead of that, but if not id be interested in a small prop bet. let me know what you think.

Well, most($700 or so) of it is at Crypto. I have about 20 or 30 players holding it for me. I have $102 on Poker Plex and $50 on stars for tourneys. That money has been there forever. I have had it to $100 and down to $7. That could be a whole other thread. I also Deposited the rest of my roll,$250 on Full Tilt( Bad idea ) I am at $179 in two days playing $10NL.

So In all, I have:
$ 102
$ 50
$ 179 = for a grand total of $321, plus some rakeback, coming on Poker plex. Bode, A prop bet would be good, for both of us. We will discuss the rules, I'm open for anything. I want to try playing a few more tourneys and S&G's as well. I was killing them on stars last night. My roll was at $27 before I started.

I may need to move my roll from Full tilt. This place is fucked. $10NL FR tables when I was datamining, were averaging about 23 or 24%VP$P and PFR of 7 to 10. That's insane. I had maybe 1 ( PT Icons) calling station per table, if I was lucky. They are filled with hyper aggressives, sLAG's and TAG's. Not an exageration at all. I can post stat's if anybody disputes it. Tell me what to do. I may leave my money in plex for now for my move back to crypto, unless I need it. Bode, The race is to whatever you want. I think my best shot is a race to $0, because I see that in my future.

Thanks everyone for the posts, I am listening I swear.


here's the thread for the prop bet.
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...=450935#450935

[bode]

how about a $20 prop bet to see who can get their BR to $500 first? I dont know exactly how to do this because i will be clearing $50 stars bonus by next week, and then getting the last $20 bonus from AP and that will make way for $100 i can cash out in PSO points. Let me know. Im sitting at $270 now, so if you want we can do profits from $10nl cash games only.

[jyms]

So what do you guys think? Full Tilt's FR tables are full of sLAG's, TAG's and HAGG's (hyper-aggressives). Seriously, full of them. Is it worth it to pull the money, lose the $250 match deposit bonus. I mean I know it's worth it, from a bankroll point of view, but is it a case of if I can't beat these guys and clear that bonus, how the hell do I beat $50NL. What about moving to 6 max again. I went there for the FR and $10NL tables, but all my games lately (last three months) are all 6max. I bailed on it when I think I was starting to figure it out. I am not comfortable anymore, playing 15/10/1.5. Is stars my future, or ultimatebeat. Yes I said that. Maybe will lok over some sites when i get home. I have accounts with empire, party, ultimate and prima.

thanks.

[bode]

if you have been playing 6max for a while, why not switch back. If you're running 15/10/1.5, then that could be the root of your problem. and i think that i run kinda nitty at 18/14 :wow:. I think the aggression factor might be your problem at the 6max tables. You need to focus more on raising and get away from calling so many raises with easily dominated hands.

[jyms]

No sorry, I mispoke. I can't handle playing those stats now htat I'm at FR. Trying to be nitty. At the 6 max tables I shoot for 2/3 at the minimum, VP$P/PFR%, but try not to dictate my first number until at the table. If I have a table with some donaters, I try to up VP$P number to be involved in more hands with the fish. When the table is playing more aggressive, I will back off and wait for better hands in position to play back at them. i think I will try some six max tonight first and see how it goes. Maybe I will find less nut campers and aggros and actually play some hands to clear the bonus.

[biondino]

TJ, one thing - players do sometimes differ between sites but by and large, they're all the same, certainly at the low limits. So don't ever allow yourself to say "ah well, it's only cos FT/UB/Crypto players are so laggy/nitty/etc" because it's really not true.

Find a site that gives you the tables you want at times you want, offers good bonuses and rb, and stay there. I am sure my fidelity to crypto has given me a comfort factor I don't have at other sites - my winrate indicates this is so.

[jyms]

Just to let you know. I've sucked so far in my new rebuilding campaign and prop bet. I spent some time yesterday playing about 1K hands 4 tabling. I was getting killed (-4+ buy-ins) . I stopped and sat in the living room and had a drink. The whole thing was weighing on my mind. Why am I losing so much, there must be something. So I read, here, there (other guys) and my Poker Tracker. I realized I'm an idiot. I lose way to much with TPTK. I don't mean I have QQ and 3 bet preflop and get all in with some idiot just to find he has AA or KK(which both happened last night as well as a Set over set), those are where you should get stacked, if at all.

I have noticed in my recent 2 or so months of learning aggression and betting , I haven't recognised when the other guy has a hand. I am so busy now, trying to stop drawing hands with "not giving odds", that I haven't been able to notice that I'm beat. My focus in the hand is all wrong. I have somehow begun to play just my hand. Not when I'm playing 1 or 2 tables, not when I start playing a session, but usually when I've been playing a bit. When I have 125 or more BB at a couple tables, things feel easy. I get too relaxed. I get so focused on my old leaks and trying to bet properly and be aggressive pre and post flop, I've forgotten to watch them. The stuff that should be automatic isn't, the stuff that requires my thinking and watching is not getting tended to. You guys have told me, I know, even looking back,

Look at how often you are stacking off with TP/2p. Pull those hands and see if you could have got away from them.

I've ben told this outrite. Yes I've seen it, yes I've noticed, but there was this "AHA" moment. We've all had them. I hope this was mine. I went back, got to within a half buy in of even, before stacking of preflop QQ vs AA. That was enough, I may have found the problem. You told me, but like an addict, rock bottom is all it takes. Sucks I know, but without rock bottom, how do you stop falling.

Let's hope, I'll keep you posted. his is the beginning or the end. My bankroll cannot withstand much longer. I will be posting my bankroll and some thoughts in our Bode-ist vs Trainer_jyms, Round 1thread.

[jyms]

This is monday and tuesdays graph. Can you see where abouts I had my AHA moment? i hope this is a sign of things to come. Some bad beats kept me from rising any more than that. I could post hands, but I know what I did. I was so confident yesterday and playing so much better that I actually was playing 8 tables for the last 1K hands. That one bad beataround the 4800 hand mark is posted in the Bode/trainer thread linked above. Without that one hand, I finish the day up 4 buy ins. Turns out I'm up just over 2 for last night. WOW, was it fun again playing poker. I felt "right".

I think that fixing leaks can cause leaks in other places. My game by no means is intact, but I was more weak tight before and never got too involved without a good hand. When trying to add aggression to my 6 max game, I failed to recognize the downfalls of it. Calling stations, fish and even the weak tights and rocks, all will hang around and either hide behind your bets or just be happy to call down with bottom 2 pair or TPTK until you hang yourself. I also stopped C-betting as much, like talked about here in a thread about Sklanskys concept #17 and I read in the book. I added to my flop repetoire (sp) both C/R for bluffs and monsters and C/C for drawing and monsters. Not everytime, just mixing it up, depending on opponents and stacks. This is by no means meant to fool opponents or hide my handsat the $10N level, but I hope to ingrain these new ideas and learn more about them for $25 and $50NL.

The last question remains. What happens if I have a bad night, or just a bad downswing again? I hope I can pull out of it without too many doubts or questions.

Hey Bode-ist, let's rock.

[jyms]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP ($12.15)
CO ($12.60)
Hero ($25.85)
SB ($13.75)
BB ($20.20)
UTG ($5.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, T.
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, MP calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.35) 7, 4, T (3 players)
MP bets $2, CO folds, Hero raises to $4, MP calls $2.

Turn: ($11.35) T (2 players)
MP bets $1, Hero raises to $2, MP calls $1.

River: ($15.35) 8 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero ??

[zook]

Raise more on all streets. Check behind river.

[metaxy6]

TJ -
I've been reading off and on and wishing you well.

Friendly advice: I think you need to play to win. You understand the game well enough. Stop obsessing about leaks and weaknesses. Play whatever game suits your roll and beat it. Pay close attention at 1-2 tables and do whatever it takes to beat your opponents. If that means checking TPGK on the turn oop when you put opp on a flush draw, so be it. Don't even worry about PT so much.
Get your confidence going, win your sidebet and take off from there.

[bigred]

This thread is really long so I didn't read much, but gl on ur drive and prop bet.

[BankItDrew]

lol... min raising is still slowplaying

[Andyl]

Hi TJ,
I have been reading this site for over a year now and have followed your progress, through your drive thread.
As someone in a similar position to your self with family, it’s been great for me to see how you have dedicated your self to improving your game, whilst maintaining a balanced family life.
It has made it very clear that I should also be making a commitment to improving my game.
I am by no means as qualified as the regular posters on ftr, but I would like to say through out this thread you have shown a huge improvement in the understanding of your own game.
I am sure your not the first person to have a couple of set backs on the way to success in this game.
I am certain that you achieve your goal and be pwning $50 NL soon.
Good luck
Andy

[eeeee]

lol... min raising is still slowplaying

I'm glad you said that. It's one of my favorite stupid tricks, and it's a huge leak.

[jyms]

so I put $300 in prima, trident to be exact. I forgot what it was like to play on shit software. Computer froze up while setting up my Hud and getting PT to find the HH folder. Have to shut down MSN, other windows and keep them to a minimum. Wow, 4 tabling and not one under 38% vp$p and not one over 9% PFR%. Lost a stack early with set > set, but made it back in due time. Up 1 buy-in in 250 hands. we will see how it goes tonight with a full session. Last time i was a break even player and making money was at Prima (Riverbelle) so now that I feel my game is on track and has less leaks, maybe I clear the 100%, $200 max, bonus in due time. Still have $154 unaccounted for, my rakeback provider (soon to be EX rakeback provider) is still working on it. I will be ripping into some sites and CS staff as soon as I can account for all my money, about this affiliate links and rakeback providers. If I can't pick my afffiliate, Fuck'em, I'm moving on to the next skin, next bonus. I'll come back in 3 months with a new account, new Neteller number and new address with my affiliate. B-Bye.

[pgil]

After reading thru this thread it seems that discipline and focus are your major hurdles. You know what you should be doing, and most likely start out doing it, but then drift back into old habits. I would suggest moving to 1 table (2 at the max), turning off your HuD, and starting each hand with a definite plan. Before each action think about what you are trying to accomplish, and what is the best way to do it.

You may want to change your play up a little bit too. For instance, you don't always have to c-bet when in a heads-up pot. Check behind sometimes, then rep the turn card. You will most likely face fewer check-raises, and fewer check-raise attempts if you don't always throw out the obligatory c-bet.

Most importantly, pay more attention to how your opp's play certain hands. (this is related to turning off your HuD). How do they play monsters, draws, and what constitutes a monster for them. For a lot of players a monster will be TPWK. It will allow you to comfortably felt (or laydown) a wider range of hands if you know what certain actions mean from your opps as opposed to just knowing that they play a certain amount of hands with an aggression factor of X.

[jyms]

After reading thru this thread it seems that discipline and focus are your major hurdles. You know what you should be doing, and most likely start out doing it, but then drift back into old habits.

This is the nail on the head, and I have tried to slow down and play less tables. I am trying to ingrain several new habits, one being, looking at the stack sizes, pot size and preflop actions before reacting.

You may want to change your play up a little bit too. For instance, you don't always have to c-bet when in a heads-up pot. Check behind sometimes, then rep the turn card. You will most likely face fewer check-raises, and fewer check-raise attempts if you don't always throw out the obligatory c-bet.

This is something I have been trying, str8 out of NLHE T&P. I have also been trying to not blindly raise as often preflop. Trying to mix up my bets, with limp/calls, raises out of position and 3 betting, just to hide my hands strenght more. If there is an aggro at my table that raises alot of c bets, I will throw out some 3 bet bluffs, as well as some better hands when the board seems to have missed his range.

Most importantly, pay more attention to how your opp's play certain hands. (this is related to turning off your HuD). How do they play monsters, draws, and what constitutes a monster for them. For a lot of players a monster will be TPWK. It will allow you to comfortably felt (or laydown) a wider range of hands if you know what certain actions mean from your opps as opposed to just knowing that they play a certain amount of hands with an aggression factor of X.

This is something I have to learn, puting them on ranges, watching for betting information and just playing their hands instead of mine.

thanks.

[jyms]

+2 buy ins at $20NL. Did I mention how much I like Prima. Good bonuses, bad players, decent amount of tables, plenty of different skins to move to and from and the software...SUCKS. My computer froze up twice yesterday, with PT, PaHud, 4 tables, FTR chat, Vent, MSN and Mozilla all running, it's a nightmare.

Nice bonus there, 100% match to $200, 250 raked hands@$0.25 = $20. Fairly easy at $20NL ( yea $20NL so $400 BR move up), slow but doable at $10NL if I drop down. Funny thing was I haven't played prima since Oct, and I had stats on 25% of the players there. Gonna rock out about 1500 hands tonight and see how it goes. Post something tomorrow.

[bigspenda73]

So what's in store for the 1000 post TJ?

[jyms]

WTF!!!


In case you can't see it, $20NL on prima.
the stacks are,
$45.45
$35.15
$36.49
$36.93
I'm up 2+ buy ins in only 16oo hands. Who the fuck taught me to play poker?? It's my second night in a row playing in the green. The two tables in red started off a stack down each with set>set and QQ v AA.

[jyms]

That pic is big so I won't leave it up for long,

[jyms]

Since moving my $300 BR to prima on the 15 Jan. Plus I have $150 in bonus.

This is updated on the Jan. 22nd



Could have been a lot better except for the big dip near the end. He had gotten the big stack by being an idiot and catching, What do you think happened.



Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $9.80
CO: $100.63
Button: $27.46
Hero: $42.00
BB: $14.10

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with A A
UTG folds, CO raises to $0.4, Button folds, Hero raises to $1, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop: 7 Q J ($2.3, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.2, CO raises to $6, Hero raises to $10.8, CO raises to $15.6, Hero calls.

Turn: 8 ($33.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $8.4, CO raises to $16.8, Hero raises all-in $17, CO calls.

River: K ($75.9, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $67.5, Sidepot 1: $8.4)


Results:
Final pot: $75.9
Hero shows Ad Ah
CO shows Qs 7s

[takesix]

::Insert tired, yet still true comment here about stacking off deep with 1 pair::

[Kauf Jr.]

Nice Jyms, I know it is a small sample size but good to see you on the right track keep improving !

[jyms]

so updated my graph at the top, this is since moving to prima and depositing my $300 roll, leaving only $154 on crypto. I will post more about my experience there in the morning.

[bigred]

That trainer jyms, he's so hot right now!!

[jyms]

She's a cold hearted bitch, I'm going to divorce her. I don't want her in my life anymore. She just got her settlement. Here it is. -$60 on the day. Was down $120 and got it back up to -$35 before the last hand. Oh well, I was due.

When variance is goot to you, you love her, you talk to her, you become emotional. But when you forget to do something, and she comes home in a bad mood, walk softly, slouch and go to bed. Don't even attempt to reconcile that night. Bring her flowers tomorrow.

941 hands, my smallest session in weeks. good night.


Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $26.98
CO: $38.41
Button: $13.61
Hero: $19.70
BB: $35.73

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with A A
2 folds, Button calls, Hero raises to $0.9, BB folds, Button calls.

Flop: 2 K 2 ($2.1, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.2, Button raises to $8.8, Hero raises to $15.4, Button calls all-in $3.81.
Uncalled bets: $2.79 returned to Hero.

Turn: 5 ($27.32, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $27.32)


River: K ($27.32, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $27.32)


Results:
Final pot: $27.32
Button shows Ks 6s




Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $17.53
Hero: $19.00
CO: $33.78
Button: $27.38
SB: $15.71
BB: $49.16

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K K
UTG raises to $0.8, Hero raises to $1.4, 4 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: J T 5 ($3.1, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.1, UTG calls.

Turn: 3 ($9.3, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $4.65, UTG calls.

River: K ($18.6, 2 players)
UTG is all-in $8.38, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $35.36
UTG shows As Qh




Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $19.70
UTG+1: $18.70
CO: $29.97
Button: $128.74
SB: $197.43
Hero: $19.00

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 5 Q
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: Q Q A ($0.8, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.8, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, SB raises to $11.63, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 6 ($35.69, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

River: A ($35.69, 3 players)
SB bets $21.6, Hero calls all-in $7.37, UTG+1 folds.
Uncalled bets: $14.23 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $50.43
SB shows As 2s




Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $4.74
UTG+1: $24.71
CO: $25.16
Button: $20.35
Hero: $21.05
BB: $16.00

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with Q Q
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises to $0.4, CO folds, Button calls, Hero raises to $1.5, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Button calls.

Flop: 5 4 7 ($6.5, 4 players)
Hero bets $6.6, UTG calls all-in $3.14, UTG+1 folds, Button raises to $13.2, Hero calls all-in $12.95, Button calls all-in $5.55.
Uncalled bets: $0.8 returned to Hero.

Turn: Q ($31.53, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $15.92, Sidepot 1: $31.22)


River: 3 ($31.53, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $15.92, Sidepot 1: $31.22)


Results:
Final pot: $31.53
Button shows 6d 8s




Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $15.70
Hero: $20.40
Button: $11.60
SB: $42.79
BB: $9.03

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 9 T
UTG folds, Hero calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: K J 8 ($0.6, 3 players)
SB bets $0.2, BB calls, Hero raises to $1.4, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: 2 ($4.8, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $4.8, SB calls, BB calls.

River: 7 ($19.2, 3 players)
SB is all-in $36.49, BB calls all-in $2.83, Hero calls all-in $14.
Uncalled bets: $22.49 returned to SB. This may have been the only questionable call of the 5?? can you let this go??

Results:
Final pot: $38.86
SB shows Ah 5h


Are any of these hands bad? or can I actually hate that bitch?

[lolzzz_321]

1.)NH
2.)BET TURN MORE
3.)PUSH FLOP, TURN, FOLD RIVER
4.)NH
5.)LOL AT OPEN LIMPING, OTHER THAN THAT NH

[IowaSkinsFan]

Triptanes, at a passive game this is fine

[lolzzz_321]

I LIEKT TO ISLOLATE DEAD MONEY SRY

[lolzzz_321]

Might be +EV, but it's not optimal.