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  1. #1

    Default Two 25nl zoom spots

    Hand 1)
    Villain was taggy, his 3b is awful, I call because Im pretty sure ill stack him postflop. Im floating a few flops too.

    I hit gin and I decide that raising here looks super strong, so I guess calling is fine. Turn again is blank, so I decide to just call again. River, I now cant fold.

    FWIW - I very rarely play hands like this, it would usually be raising the flop or turn. I decided in this spot that him being tight aggro he was likely to fire multiple barrels and I didnt want to show any strength by folding.

    PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Button ($26.16)
    SB ($52.89)
    BB ($27.70)
    Hero (UTG) ($28.41)
    MP ($15.46)
    CO ($21.53)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, J
    Hero bets $0.75, 4 folds, BB raises to $2, Hero calls $1.25

    Flop: ($4.10) 10, J, 3 (2 players)
    BB bets $3, Hero calls $3

    Turn: ($10.10) 6 (2 players)
    BB bets $6.50, Hero calls $6.50

    River: ($23.10) Q (2 players)
    BB bets $16.20 (All-In), Hero calls $16.20

    Total pot: $55.50 | Rake: $2



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    Went for the ol' 3 barrel here, the guy was like 54/38, he has such a wide range I think I can barrel the turn here profitably. He has a bunch of hands he can fold, including a bunch of mid pairs. Plus I have equity (a clean 6 outs).

    PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Button ($25)
    Hero (SB) ($25)
    BB ($36.42)
    UTG ($23.26)
    MP ($32.20)
    CO ($24.65)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 9, A
    2 folds, CO bets $0.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.50, 1 fold, CO calls $1.75

    Flop: ($5.25) 2, Q, 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $3.25, CO calls $3.25

    Turn: ($11.75) 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets $7, CO calls $7

    River: ($25.75) A (2 players)
    Hero bets $12.25 (All-In), CO calls $11.90 (All-In)

    Total pot: $49.55 | Rake: $2
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    Hey m3ta, anything below 50nl belongs in the beginners circle forum.


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    Hand 1: Do you have actual stats on villian?

    If he's "taggy" what makes you think we're ahead when he 3bets?

    On flop you didn't hit gin... you hit a set, which is vulnerable on this board. Raise flop.

    Without a reason to think he 3bets light I'd assume he's got a strong hand he can't get away from so again, raise flop.

    As played I'd shove turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketfours View Post
    Hey m3ta, anything below 50nl belongs in the beginners circle forum.

    Sorry man didnt realise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supa View Post
    Hand 1: Do you have actual stats on villian?

    If he's "taggy" what makes you think we're ahead when he 3bets?

    On flop you didn't hit gin... you hit a set, which is vulnerable on this board. Raise flop.

    Without a reason to think he 3bets light I'd assume he's got a strong hand he can't get away from so again, raise flop.

    As played I'd shove turn.
    He was 16/14, really TAGGY nit.

    I think shoving turn (looking back is best)

    At this point I dont see him folding QQ, KK, AA, or random draws he may have...
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    Hand 1 - seems like a fold preflop/shove turn

    Hand 2 - how often does he fold to 3bets and cbets? I'd c/f turn
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmind View Post
    Hand 1 - seems like a fold preflop/shove turn

    Hand 2 - how often does he fold to 3bets and cbets? I'd c/f turn

    Why do you think this about hand 1? I mean we are getting a little better then 20;1 on setmine value plus our hand can win on it's own quite a bit. If he's so tight that we are crushed(80;20) then we can pretty happily setmine and stack him a super high% of the time. I could be wrong, just seems silly to ever fold JJ 100bb deep for this price.

    I agree with hand 2. We are 3bing A9s for value here right just so we are all on the same page. Also if we are bluffing(He folds a tonnne to 3bs) then we should probably just be c/fing the flop. If he's really cally pre-flop in which case this is for value which I assume it is then we can def cbet once on a board this dry and give up most turns.
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    Yeah you're right with hand 1, thought he 3bet bigger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icanhastreebet View Post
    Why do you think this about hand 1? I mean we are getting a little better then 20;1 on setmine value plus our hand can win on it's own quite a bit. If he's so tight that we are crushed(80;20) then we can pretty happily setmine and stack him a super high% of the time. I could be wrong, just seems silly to ever fold JJ 100bb deep for this price.

    I agree with hand 2. We are 3bing A9s for value here right just so we are all on the same page. Also if we are bluffing(He folds a tonnne to 3bs) then we should probably just be c/fing the flop. If he's really cally pre-flop in which case this is for value which I assume it is then we can def cbet once on a board this dry and give up most turns.
    Yes its a 3b for value vs this opponent, so loose he can have a bunch on the flop and doesnt fold pre. Hence my 2 barrel (and then value river shove)

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