Small session review $2NL

I’m going to do a session review trying to concentrate on my pre-flop play mostly for a small session I just played at $2NL 9Max one tabling. I ran at 15/12/5 over 65 hands which is a shit sample I know but hey, I think are good stats for pfr and vpip but the 3 bet stat is high so will review them in detail. (turns out I only 3 bet one hand.)

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (5 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($1.01)
MP ($0.32)
Button ($0.95)
SB ($1.43)
Hero (BB) ($2)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 10 , 10
UTG calls $0.02, 2 folds, SB calls $0.01, Hero bets $0.12, UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold
Flop: ($0.26) A , 9 , 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.20, Hero folds
Total pot: $0.26 | Rake: $0.01

The first hand at the table so no reads on either of the villain’s, I think the raise preflop is standard for value and even though we are OOP against UTG our range is a lot stronger than theirs. Bad flop for my hand so I check flop even though I could c-bet I drew up a range of:
77-22,A9s-A2s,K9s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,75s+,64s+,53s+,4 2s+,32s,ATo-A2o,KTo+,Q9o+,J9o+,T9o,98o,87o,76o,65o,54o,43o,32o – All though with no reads this could be way out. I have 52.5% equity on this flop so I am unsure whether to c-bet this or not, I think on first hand it is ok to check fold this flop.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (7 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB ($1.19)
UTG ($2.01)
MP1 ($1.03)
Hero (MP2) ($2)
CO ($2)
Button ($0.67)
SB ($1.38)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A , 9
2 folds, Hero bets $0.08, 3 folds, BB calls $0.06
Flop: ($0.17) K , 2 , 9 (2 players)
BB bets $0.08, Hero calls $0.08
Turn: ($0.33) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10
River: ($0.53) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $0.16, Hero calls $0.16
Total pot: $0.85 | Rake: $0.05

Same villain as the hand above, he had played all 4 hands up until this one limping pf in all of them, I think his donking range is K’s, QJ, QT, JT, Q9, J9, T9, diamonds and I think he plays the turn and river the same way with all his range. (Based purely on previous fish betting small all three streets no matter if miss or hit massive. I think the three calls are correct, maybe raising flop has some merit but I didn’t even think about it.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP2 ($1.56)
MP3 ($1.18)
CO ($2.18)
Button ($1.08)
SB ($0.80)
Hero (BB) ($2)
UTG ($2)
UTG+1 ($0.67)
MP1 ($1.37)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A , 5
7 folds, SB bets $0.08, Hero calls $0.06
Flop: ($0.16) 5 , 8 , 7 (2 players)
SB bets $0.12, Hero raises to $1.92 (All-In), 1 fold
Total pot: $0.40 | Rake: $0.02

SB vs. BB scenario, preflop is ok I think although with a short stacker raising maybe it would be better to open fold I think I was a bit tilted at this point from the first two hands, flop I presume is totally standard his only has $0.60 left so I shove with bottom pair and nut flush draw. His range is super wide and does hit this flop I am ahead of K8 and any 6 or 7 which I think he is stacking off with. Not sure if preflop is ok?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($1.48)
UTG+1 ($1.47)
MP1 ($2.11)
MP2 ($2.12)
MP3 ($2)
Hero (CO) ($2.19)
Button ($1.97)
SB ($2.01)
BB ($0.70)
Preflop: Hero is CO with Q , A
UTG bets $0.06, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.14
Flop: ($0.43) 4 , 8 , J (2 players)
UTG bets $0.16, Hero calls $0.16
Turn: ($0.75) Q (2 players)
UTG bets $0.12, Hero raises to $1.83 (All-In), 1 fold
Total pot: $0.99 | Rake: $0.06

I don’t like the way I played this hand at all, it’s the same villain from the first two hands and he still fishy but has tighten up and this is their first raise, so already their range is strong AJs+, AQo+, 99+ at a guess. Flatting AQo to this range would be better and is folding too nitty as he is a fish. Urgh flop is a fold although he donks every hand he is involved in, but still a fold considering his range and this board. The turn is the best card in the deck for me, he had a $1 left behind after his turn bet so I shoved because any raise will most of his stack anyway.

Any comments welcome.

you've got A5 and A9 in your raising/calling preflop range here? both played out of position.

your stats arent bad at 15/12.. but here's my 2c. If you are include A5, then I would assume you include A5+ ..I dont know if they are suited or not because your history doesnt say so.. but if they arent they thats 10% of hands already, plus pps is another 5-6% so if you're playing anything like KQ/KJ and any connectors of any kind then your vip is going to push up above 20% which is going to be too loose in general..

We have a member here whos stats I've seen who shows a solid proift right up to 50NL running 13/11. And he has some post flop skills. I dont mean to incinuate that you dont, but if you're playing FR 2NL then it seems likely that your a beginner and therefore need to get a feel for the game playing tight and staying out of trouble. Ax type hands will give you hell without some postflop skills over the long term.

I probably wouldnt 3bet AQ at FR but thats me, at higher stakes than this. I wouldnt be surprised if you can 3bet a much wider range for value at 2NL. AI raise in last hand seems too much. You bet out all his worse hands when you can probably get value out of many of them by making a smaller raise.

Originally Posted by scott_owen

you've got A5 and A9 in your raising/calling preflop range here? both played out of position.

The A9 hand I was IP against BB, and the A5 hand I was in position against SB in BB.

Originally Posted by tripaces

The A9 hand I was IP against BB...

only by accident.

when you raised PF, there were 4 players to act after you.

Yeah sorry my bad, I just thought he meant in the actual hand, so is A9o in MP3 a fold without reads? The CO and BUT can call and ill be out of position, but SB and BB ill be in position.

w/ 100BB in an unopened pot:

• i'd raise A9 from the button
  
• i'd raise A9s from the cutoff

but i'm crap @ this game so maybe don't listen to me

do you have a HUD?

Hand 1 - cbet.
Hand 2 - fold preflop
Hand 3 - fold preflop
Hand 4 - call/fold preflop, as played call flop, raise turn 3x, bet some moar on river if it looks friendly.

Yeah i do have hud but was only like 12 hands at table, the CO and HJ hadn't played a hand but I would of still probably raised it if they were active which is a mistake as they would of likely called.

Just noticed that there are no suits on the hands, the hand 1 is all clubs and I had no club would that affect us cbetting or not?
In hand 2 turn gives me turn flush draw with As and 3 spades on board aswell.

Originally Posted by tripaces

Yeah sorry my bad, I just thought he meant in the actual hand, so is A9o in MP3 a fold without reads? The CO and BUT can call and ill be out of position, but SB and BB ill be in position.

Dont play A9o in middle pos. Admittedly your villains arent likely to be positionally aware, but say they are, the button and cut off are likely to play a wider range and call more hands just because they have pos on you. As it is, your likely vs loose passive villains that call a wide range of junk in any pos so you arent likely to have position much of the time here.

my bad about the A5, but i'm still not over the moon about it. In that hand its probably a bit more of a 3bet bluff/fold situation, although i almost always just fold. calling is bad because it leaves villain with initiative and you're not really thinking about his preflop range much..

you said villain limped 4 hands before this point. Which means that he probably limps all sorts of crap, isnt positionally aware. His raising range probably consists of any A, and mid to high pairs. so if he has A6+ he's dominating you, and there's also not really going to be alot of times you value bet a pair of 5's so you're never making money here unless you flop 2pair or better. Other hands in his range are all pairs.. all of which are are ahead of you.. here's some stove

739,715,328 games 0.556 secs 1,330,423,251 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.303% 33.68% 04.63% 249099972 34232718.00 { A5s }
Hand 1: 61.697% 57.07% 04.63% 422149920 34232718.00 { 22+, A2s+ }

This means that for your call to be plus ev the villain must pay you off with middle pairs, or you must very often be able to steal the pot on the flop/turn. But since you are playing a loose passive who probably calls with any ace regardless of flop you have no fold equity and are going to be in an annoying check down situation a lot of the time despite your positional advantage.

against a wider range of unpaired cards, but less low value cards you still barely scrape a coin flip


1,239,708,096 games 0.956 secs 1,296,765,790 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.867% 49.16% 00.71% 609387588 8818192.00 { A5s }
Hand 1: 50.133% 49.42% 00.71% 612684124 8818192.00 { 66+, A8s+, K6s+, K6o+ }


Also, many loose passives shape up to be something like 30+/2 in the hud. This makes their raising range JJ+, AK. Which against you is horrible, ~30/70 in favour of villain.

NOT opening A9 there seems like its burning money given it looks like bb is a mega fish
I can't tell if the A5 hand is suited (i guess it is because you say you have nfd on the flop, i assume its not mono), but still probably fold pre anyway without reads
AQ probably really depends on how tight his initial raising range is going to be, but this is probably going to be a call pre. fold flop, suites are important on the turn but i can't really tell what they are.

Sorry the hand convertor is being crap until I get 10 posts, the A5 hand ia Ah5h on
5s7h8h flop.

And the AQ hand AsQd on 4s8sJcQs board.

When you are out of position you are at a significant disadvantage as your opponent gets to act last with more information. Therefore you have to play stronger ranges of hands out of poisiton not weaker ones like you do here

Attacking the blinds to steal and withthe advantage of position is fine with A5s say on the btn and maybe co but you can't defend with these hands as you win small pots/lose big ones

From the hands posted you need to tighten up significantly oop and understand how much of an advantage position gives you

The hand you played the best is the TT one where you recognised you probably aren't ahead here - there are merits for a Cbet but at these stakes I would be making most of my bets for value not when the board is bit ugly for my hand

Originally Posted by tripaces

Sorry the hand convertor is being crap until I get 10 posts, the A5 hand ia Ah5h on
5s7h8h flop.

And the AQ hand AsQd on 4s8sJcQs board.

You have converter option to convert in plain text. Shows everything in text but its okay.

Still, no need to shove any of those hands, raising is much better.