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Re: A simple range exercise
Originally Posted by Monty3038
Originally Posted by oskar
We don't do that stuff nearly enough, and I' m sure most of you don't really use this, so here's a simple exercise.
I just played this hand an hour ago, and I thought it was somewhat interesting. Villain is a friend of mine
It's 10c/20c/40c live - straddle isn't mandatory but most hands are straddled and double-straddled
Relative stack with villain is €40
I straddle with :Qc:
3 callers, villain completes from the SB, BB completes.
Flop:
6 players
Pot: 1,9 (lol rake)
:Ks: :Qh:
check, check, I bet 2, 3 folds, villain calls, bb folds.
Turn:
2 players
Pot: 5.9
Villain checks, I bet 4.5, villain raises 13, I call.
River:
Pot: 31.9
Villain bets 25 all-in
He can't have AK, KQ, KK, QQ - he would raise pre. He doesn't really think about my range, so even though he would turn 86 into a bluff by playing it that way, he's not aware of it. He would c/r or lead JT almost always. If he would c/r a K or Q with a FD on the turn he probably would c/r bigger and not bet the river - you could add ~4 of those combos if you want to be anal about it.
He doesn't have a bluffing range really. He's smart enough to know not to try and bet me off my hand after I lead a multi-way flop on that table.
So his range is 88, 66, K8, K6, Q8, Q6, 68.
First off just decide if you would call or fold without counting combos.
How much equity do we have against his range, and how much equity do we need to make a call 0EV?
Bonus: What's the exact EV of calling?
Ok, I' m not reading the other responses on purpose, going to give this a shot from your post only.
I don't understand the straddle aspect, so playing it like a normal NLHE hand.
When SB completes, they have a fairly wide range, Ax's, Broadways, SC's, pairs... then they call a flop bet... hmmm... that narrows them a bit... I' m thiking you aren't calling this flop without hitting something, at least a pair, probably K or Q in their hand, mostly likely King IMO, so let's see... Kx, AK, AQ, 88, KK, QQ hands... you're way ahead here, like 85% ahead...
On turn the diamond puts two diamonds on the board, I don't think K6 or Q6 is a likely pre- flop hand here... but... 66 is possible... and he might have just set. Hmm...
River is junk, but that slim sd possiblity came true... 57 pre flop? Doubtful, but depends onthe player I suppose... he got big time aggressive... hmmm
I' m putting him on KQ, 88, 66.
And after reading the other responses, I am obviously a level behind. I guess I'm running the whole hand versus the turn... will have to ponder this more.
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