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Originally Posted by Razvan729
one and very important reason, you 3bet JJ+ because even holding JJ is the 4th hand as strenght preflop so playing it is +EV and you dominate the rest of the hands. playing JJ will make you money , look for graphs and you will see it a winning pre hand. these been said you want as much money in preflop, because you have a winning hand. suppose you flat JJ, QQ pre to a raise and you dont 3bet, and he is on AQso+, he hits nothing on the flop , maybe you get one street value for your hand but that all so 3bet pre and him calling will bring you more money. lets think you flat and no 3bet pre JJ, QQ, he opens A9s+ and AJo+, flop comes and he hits A, woulndt you want then to 3bet pre so that those money would have been yours? lets say you flat and no 3 bet JJ, QQ, flop comes 10 high, you get called or you call a bet, turn blank, again call or get called, river blank ... he shows bigger PP than yours or a set 23456789.... woudnt you want then to 3bet pre so that you know what you are facing and stop losing these money? so you see, 3bet pre is a way to make money if you know how to use it and what info to extract from it. this is why we 3bet, 4bet and shove 5bet, to make money, by adding more to the pot when we are winning and stop leaking ours in the pot when we are losing. this is why you play poker , to make money, you make money by playing the best hands with the best ways and the best info you can get!
None of this is a reason for 3 betting JJ in any situation. It's completely arbitrary and misleading for anyone who reads it.
I don't mind people giving their oppinions because they can be corrected and better plasyers can help them etc. However, it's more dangerous to the comunity to give your oppinion in a lecturing way. Saying things like "So you see..." implys you have wisdom in poker and that weak/new players should accept everything you say. This is evidently not the case.
3 betting is a way to make money, but it's not quite as simple as "we have the 4th best starting hand." This is arbitrary and misleading. We 3 bet for value only when our opponent continues with a weaker range. This continuing range, as kmind said, will frequently differ hugely from an opening range and certainly from the all the other hands in poker that are worse than JJ.
People appreciate input here. But seriously, the first step really is realising you suck ass at poker. You are going to have a hellishly long and failing road ahead if you already think your poker analysis is anywhere near competent. The sooner you realise this, take a step back and start to question everything you think you know, the sooner you'll be on the road to becoming half decent at poker.
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