Shot at 50NL

Gave myself 8BIs to try some 50NL. I pretty much played my same nit game as I do at 25NL and lasted 3 days. I was going to give it 10 BIs but I seemed to be playing scared towards the end so I quit.
Back to 25NL I go...

Differences I noticed from 25NL (I know, lol sample size):
-Alot of 3betting (almost every hand)
-Alot of squeezing. I rarely saw this at 25NL
-number of players with 50+ vpip. WTF?
-Not too many high vpip calling station. Most high vpip villians were aggressive
-Hard to get any value from sets. First day I hit sets at 20% and couldn't get value. Lost most flips

Still over rolled for 25NL
Going to wait til about $2k for the next shot

In before CSB

post some hands, preferably ones where you had to deal with the 3B'ing or the ones which were greater than 30 bb's

is this 6max or FR?

Originally Posted by Sasquach991

Differences I noticed from 25NL (I know, lol sample size):
-Alot of 3betting (almost every hand)
-Alot of squeezing. I rarely saw this at 25NL
-number of players with 50+ vpip. WTF?
-Not too many high vpip calling station. Most high vpip villians were aggressive
-Hard to get any value from sets. First day I hit sets at 20% and couldn't get value. Lost most flips

yep, this seems about right.

What's that software you used for the graph? Looks like it has more features than then pokertracker.

Originally Posted by caddie444

post some hands, preferably ones where you had to deal with the 3B'ing or the ones which were greater than 30 bb's

is this 6max or FR?

FR

I'll post some hands later tonight or tomorrow.

Originally Posted by madurskim

What's that software you used for the graph? Looks like it has more features than then pokertracker.

Holdem Manager and I'm pretty sure pokertracker has the same features.

Yea def post some hands. I took a shot at 50NL recently and had similar results to yours (6m thought).

Your redline shows me that you need to make some serious adjustments or you probably will be BE at best from 50NL onward. -4BI in redline alone every 3K hands is going to absolutely destroy your winrate in the long run.

in b4 "redline doesn't matter, rabble rabble rabble"

Redline doesn't matter in itself but the steepness of it's slope does.

Prob true for the most part. At about hand 1600 was the start of a session. Within about 5 hands AA<66, AK<AA, and AA<55(on river) so I prob started playing too tight and not stealing enough. I'll check this later.

3Bet/Squeeze Hands

#1
villian is 59/42/8 with 22% 3bet over 80 hands

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP3 ($61.50)
CO ($79.80)
Button ($50)
SB ($48.75)
Hero (BB) ($50)
UTG ($47.85)
UTG+1 ($50)
MP1 ($81.40)
MP2 ($54.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10, 10
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, 3 folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero bets $1.50, MP2 raises $3, 1 fold, Hero ???

#2

villian 7/7/-- over 58, no 3bets, ATS 13

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($53.10)
SB ($50)
BB ($36.10)
UTG ($51.70)
UTG+1 ($55.55)
Hero (MP1) ($53.75)
MP2 ($23.75)
CO ($51.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J, J
2 folds, Hero bets $1.50, 2 folds, Button raises to $5.50, Hero ???

#3

MP is 43/24/1.3 20% 3bet
BB is 21/16/2.6 with 9% 3bet over 73

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 ($26.95)
MP2 ($90.45)
CO ($50)
Button ($63.90)
SB ($37.80)
BB ($50)
UTG ($68.75)
Hero (UTG+1) ($50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K, K
1 fold, Hero bets $2, 1 fold, MP2 calls $2, 3 folds, BB raises to $8, Hero ???

$4

villian 14/13/3.8, 6% 3bet over 200

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($55.45)
Hero (Button) ($50)
SB ($50.25)
BB ($138.70)
UTG ($39.40)
MP1 ($52.50)
MP2 ($66.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, Q
4 folds, Hero bets $1.50, SB raises to $4.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($9.50) K, 9, 7 (2 players)
SB bets $5.50, Hero folds

Total pot: $9.50 | Rake: $0.45

#5

Villian 20/13/2.3 with 3% 3bet over 80
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($50)
UTG ($75.35)
UTG+1 ($65.75)
MP1 ($50)
Hero (MP2) ($50)
MP3 ($161.60)
CO ($46.30)
Button ($59)
SB ($37.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, Q
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero bets $2.50, 2 folds, Button raises to $7.50, 3 folds, Hero ???

30bb Hands
Not all of these are losses

#1
My first hand at table. No stats/reads on HJ

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($15.60)
UTG ($55.70)
MP1 ($15.85)
MP2 ($32.30)
CO ($96.95)
Hero (Button) ($50)
SB ($48.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10, 10
2 folds, MP2 bets $1.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50, SB calls $1.25, BB calls $1

Flop: ($6) 10, 9, Q (4 players)
SB bets $3, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $7, Hero calls ???

#2

16/12/1.6 over 100
75% cbet

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 ($93.70)
CO ($19.25)
Button ($71.50)
Hero (SB) ($55)
BB ($66.80)
UTG ($50.75)
UTG+1 ($125.65)
MP1 ($67.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J, J
UTG bets $1.50, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.25, BB calls $1

Flop: ($6) 5, 9, 9 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $3.75, 1 fold, Hero ???

#3
UTG+1 19/14/2 6% 3bet
BB 29/2/2

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($60.75)
BB ($53.55)
Hero (UTG) ($53.45)
MP1 ($51.20)
MP2 ($50)
CO ($50)
Button ($53.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, J
Hero bets $2, MP1 raises to $6, 4 folds, BB calls $5.50, Hero ???


AA loses AI pre 2 times
KK loses AI pre 1 time
Set over set 2 times
Top 2 < rivered set

Even though I lost miserably, I enjoyed playing 50NL.

My thoughts.

1) Flat given his sizing.
2) Fold.
3) 4bet to $19.
4) I'd probably call the flop.
5) Not sure.

1. TT - call spike a set or c/f
2. JJ fold
3. KK call
4. QQ where is the 4b pre?
5. QQ id probably fold without reads tbh.

1. TT call
2. JJ hero should have lead. call as played.
3. JJ fold or setmine dependant on how bad bb is.

3bet hands:
3. Depending on my image I could raise or call.
4. As played depending on cbet stats I may float. But I'm often 4beting pre.
5. I hate that.

[x] 1. TT - call spike a set or c/f
[x] 2. JJ fold
[ ] 3. KK call- I raised to $22 and bb shoved
[ ] 4. QQ where is the 4b pre?
[x] 5. QQ id probably fold without reads tbh.

[x] 1. TT call-Turn was J
[ ] 2. JJ hero should have lead. call as played. -Why lead? Isn't this WAWB situation?
[ ] 3. JJ fold or setmine dependant on how bad bb is. -Called for setmining, missed and folded to cbet

4b size is way too damn big with KK. 44bb IP???????? you also blow the whale out of the pot. massive leak here

TT wif jack turn call if you get boat odds

this isnt nearly a wa/wb situation with 4 people in the pot