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    Default KQo, squeezed from sb 25nl ZOOM

    Hey guys, I decide to squeeze here with KQo,

    Reasons

    1) Im never calling OOP with this hand
    2) I have blockers to better hands (QQ, KK, AK)
    3) Im pretty happy to take it down here and if I do get called, I dont expect to be dominated very often as Id expect to get 4bet by AK.

    (if my reasoning is wrong here, please let me know).

    The original opener was 22/18 and the btn appeared fairly tight over a small sample.

    What worries me here is that I fire the flop and so often if I get raised, I dont know what to do (and I always feel beat). Pretty sure its massively profitable either way but whats your advice here?

    PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Button ($29.51)
    Hero (SB) ($85.01)
    BB ($12.69)
    UTG ($27.05)
    MP ($51.29)
    CO ($26.51)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, K
    2 folds, CO bets $0.75, Button calls $0.75, Hero raises to $2.50, 1 fold, CO calls $1.75, Button calls $1.75

    Flop: ($7.75) K, 10, 7 (3 players)
    Hero bets $4.75, 1 fold, Button raises to $27.01 (All-In)

    Total pot: $17.25 | Rake: $0.78
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    Looks fine to me, now you have a really easy fold.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
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    I'm kind of thinking about calling tbh. 2 OESDs that could be in his range. Hard for him to have KK, doubt he has AA like ever after flatting twice. TT/77 can be in his range but 77 depends on how often he calls 3bets or squeezes. TT will raise smaller a majority of the time. AK often 3bets pre/won't just jam flop. With your preflop and flop sizing I think I call now.

    Him being fairly tight though is vague and of course makes me want to click fold. If he's really too tight to actually call here with suited connectors than obv fold.
    Last edited by kmind; 09-23-2012 at 03:54 PM.
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    Do you always make your squeeze sizing this small? I don't know what optimal is but I feel your giving a great price on your stack.
    I also feel yr flop bet is too big, what are you expecting to happen there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kickass View Post
    Do you always make your squeeze sizing this small? I don't know what optimal is but I feel your giving a great price on your stack.
    I also feel yr flop bet is too big, what are you expecting to happen there?
    This too 100%
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    Squeeze $3, cbet 50% pot. Reason for bigger sizing pre is that we don't want more than one caller oop (and preferably no callers). The smaller cbet enables us to still get stacks in comfortably if we want to (much like a 3bet pot) and yet saves us some money when we need to fold (like we do in this hand).

    Whether the squeeze is profitable is difficult to say. It certainly can be in the right circumstances and it would be a good exercise for you to work through some EV calculations, including how often your cbet would need to get through to make this profitable.

    Re range - expect 22/18 villain to flat with TT-QQ, AQ, AK, maybe more pocket pairs if he's confident btn will come along and perceives hero or btn to be fishy or fit or fold. AA and KK would be a 4bet with btn still to act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bean Counter View Post
    Squeeze $3, cbet 50% pot. Reason for bigger sizing pre is that we don't want more than one caller oop (and preferably no callers). The smaller cbet enables us to still get stacks in comfortably if we want to (much like a 3bet pot) and yet saves us some money when we need to fold (like we do in this hand).

    Whether the squeeze is profitable is difficult to say. It certainly can be in the right circumstances and it would be a good exercise for you to work through some EV calculations, including how often your cbet would need to get through to make this profitable.

    Re range - expect 22/18 villain to flat with TT-QQ, AQ, AK, maybe more pocket pairs if he's confident btn will come along and perceives hero or btn to be fishy or fit or fold. AA and KK would be a 4bet with btn still to act.
    Thanks all, I was wondering about my sizing too.

    So 3 bucks makes sense, as for the calculations how do I go about them? Im assuming I need to factor in their fold to 3b and fold to flop cbet in a 3bet pot? Hmm..
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    Very difficult this spot. Because there are a lot of draws and he calls in position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m3taphysics View Post
    ...as for the calculations how do I go about them? Im assuming I need to factor in their fold to 3b and fold to flop cbet in a 3bet pot? Hmm..
    Start off by working out how often we need to be successful if we squeeze to $3 pre, then you can start to build up your equation from there to incorporate the things you mention.
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    You've only listed reasons to squeeze. What's on the other side of the ledger?
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    i kind of want to call this flop because i cant see a VERY strong hand just jamming over us like this on this board. i used to do this kind of thing sometimes versus people whom i didn't care about balancing my sizing against when i had an 8+ out draw and some FE in a 3b pots. not saying villain and i play the same, but if this hand were against me my range would be basically 98s and QJs exclusively.

    also i think our hand is strong enough to just call pre, even multiway. i'd prefer to 3bet KJo or ATo (if we thought we werent good enough to flat-call them profitably)
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    oh and

    Quote Originally Posted by kickass View Post
    Do you always make your squeeze sizing this small? I don't know what optimal is but I feel your giving a great price on your stack.
    I also feel yr flop bet is too big
    +1
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bean Counter View Post
    Squeeze $3, cbet 50% pot. Reason for bigger sizing pre is that we don't want more than one caller oop (and preferably no callers). The smaller cbet enables us to still get stacks in comfortably if we want to (much like a 3bet pot) and yet saves us some money when we need to fold (like we do in this hand).

    Whether the squeeze is profitable is difficult to say. It certainly can be in the right circumstances and it would be a good exercise for you to work through some EV calculations, including how often your cbet would need to get through to make this profitable.

    Re range - expect 22/18 villain to flat with TT-QQ, AQ, AK, maybe more pocket pairs if he's confident btn will come along and perceives hero or btn to be fishy or fit or fold. AA and KK would be a 4bet with btn still to act.
    wtf
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    am calling, villian's line makes no sense.

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