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Originally Posted by acoss3006
Im still confused here.
If we think Villian has more in his range than AX hands (which I do)..
Why arent we getting value from the non AX hands ( QQ, JJ etc) by betting the flop?
And why are we letting him get a free card that could beat us?
Also, given that we showed some strength PF with our reraise, might we fold out some weaker AX's (which currenly beat us) with some strength on the flop?
I think its Harrington that talks about defining his situation by betting. I think Villians response to a flop bet tells us alot here. I also wouldnt mind too much to take the pot down on the flop.
Im not sure what we do if we check back the flop and villian bets on a seemingly blank turn (which, if I were villian, I would do given hero is basically telling me that the A is scary)? Would we call him down?
Here's where you're getting confused imo.
Since there are worse hands like TT-QQ you feel that a valuebet is in order. But you already stated that you don't feel that he will "continue" with worse to a bet on the flop, so how do you bet for value??
In order for a bet to before, your hand needs to be ahead of your villain's calling range, not their current range. So in this case, even though his range includes a bunch of hands that you're ahead of, a bet on the flop will ALWAYS get called by a better hand and will often result in worse hands folding so it is infact not for value, and you're actually sorta turning your hand into a bluff.
By checking back the flop your opponent is going to have a tough time folding not only TT-QQ but he is also on occasion going to try to take the pot away with complete air on the turn.
All in all, it should usually feel pretty good about the rest of villains stack going in on the flop or the turn, but you're going to show bigger profits in the long run when the money goes in on the turn in this situation.
Don't worry about free cards here either. The 4% of the time that he turns a 2 outer is nothing in comparison to the 96% of the time that he misses, and you find yourself in a situation where he now will call a turn bet with a worse hand than yours.
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