Quote Originally Posted by LawDude
Quote Originally Posted by kmind
Ok so you definitely think we are behind here no matter what?
Nope. I put Villain's range up above. Ax. Kx. Jx. 4x. Perhaps Qx. Two spades. Two diamonds.

We may have some fold equity and we also may be ahead of a good part of Villain's range. And we've represented a strong hand. Heck, we even have some outs to improve our hand (a King or a 7 on the river)!

To answer the question in your second post, I am not sure if he doesn't care about our cards. Rather, I suspect he is weak-- people who limp-call pre-flop raises generally are. That ace may very well be a scare card for him as well as us. If you turn up the heat on a weak player, he may not remain a calling station-- he may decide we've got him beat and get out. Hence there may be some fold equity here.

I am not saying NECESSARILY to bet the turn; I am simply saying that there is certainly an argument, depending on what one thinks the Villain might do, to continue firing.
I am still so confused. You keep saying we should fire more barrels because he may be weak and we want him to fold? We are representing a strong range? All of this = bluff. Why are we wanting to bet if only worse hands fold?